Sermons to the People 242.1–243.8
Latin text: PL 38 (Latin text: Migne, PL 38, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/6: Sermons on Selected Lessons of the New Testament (R. G. MacMullen, ed., 1888).
Chapter 242
242.1PL 38:1116–1117
Diebus his sanctis resurrectioni Domini dedicatis, quantum donante ipso possumus, de carnis resurrectione tractemus. Hæc enim fides est nostra, hoc donum in Domini nostri Jesu Christi nobis carne promissum est, et in ipso præcessit exemplum. Voluit cnim nobis quod promisit in fine, non solum prænuntiare, sed etiam dcmonstrare. Illi quidem qui tunc fuerunt cum illo, viderunt, et cum expavescerent, et spiritum se videre crederent, soliditatem corporis tenuerunt. Locutus est enim non solum verbis ad aures eorum, sed etiam specie ad oculos eorum: parumque crat se præbere cernendum, nisi etiam oflerret pertractandum atque palpandum. Ait enim: Quid turbati estis, et cogitationes ascendunt in cor vestrum? Putaverunt enim se spiritum videre. « Quid turbati estis, inquit, et cogitationes ascendunt in cor vestrum? Videte manus meas et pedes meos: palpate, et videte, quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me videtis habere. > Contra istam evidentiam disputant homines. Quid enim aliud facerent homines, qui ea quæ sunt hominum sapiunt, quam disputarent de Deo contra Dcum? Ille enim Deus est, illi homines sunt. Sed Deus novit cogitationes hominum, quoniam vanæ sunt (Psal. XCIII, 11). In homine carnali tota regula intelligendi est consuetudo cernendi. Quod solent videre, credunt: quod non solent, non credunt. Præter consuetudinem facit Deus miracula, quia Dens est. Majora quidem miracula sunt, tot quotidie homines nasci qui non erant, quam paucos resurrexisse qui crant: ct tamen ista miracula non consideratione comprehensa sunt, sed assiduitate viluerunt. Resurrexit Christus, absoluta res est. Corpus orat, caro erat, pcpendit in cruce, emisit animam, posita est in sepulcro. Exhibuit illam vivam, qui vivebat in illa. Quare miramur? Quare non credimus? Deus est qui fecit: considera auctorem, et tolle dubitationem.
During these holy days dedicated to the Lord’s resurrection, let us treat, as far as he grants it, of the resurrection of the flesh. For this is our faith; this gift has been promised to us in the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and in him the example has gone before. For he willed not only to foretell to us what he promised for the end, but also to show it. Those indeed who were with him then saw; and when they were terrified and believed they were seeing a spirit, they took hold of the solidity of his body. For he spoke not only with words to their ears but also with his form to their eyes; and it was too little to offer himself to be seen unless he also offered himself to be handled and felt. For he says: “Why are you troubled, and why do thoughts rise up in your heart?” For they thought they were seeing a spirit. “Why are you troubled,” he says, “and why do thoughts rise up in your heart? See my hands and my feet; handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have.” Against this plain evidence men argue. For what else would men do, who savor the things that are of men, than argue about God against God? For he is God, they are men. But “God knows the thoughts of men, that they are vain.” In the carnal man the whole rule of understanding is the habit of seeing. What they are used to seeing, they believe; what they are not used to, they do not believe. God works miracles beyond what is customary, because he is God. Indeed it is a greater miracle that so many men are born every day who did not exist than that a few rose who had existed; and yet these miracles are not grasped by reflection but have grown cheap by repetition. Christ has risen; the matter is settled. It was a body, it was flesh; it hung on the cross, it gave up the soul, it was laid in the tomb. He who lived in it showed it alive. Why do we marvel? Why do we not believe? It is God who did it: consider the author, and put away the doubt.
Luke 24:37 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 94:11 (93:11 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 16:23 (echo, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The risen Christ let his disciples see and handle his body; men argue against this because they believe only what they are used to seeing, but God, the author, did it.
- Quotations: Luke 24:38–39; Ps 94:11 (93:11 Vulg.). “Who savor the things that are of men” echoes Matt 16:23.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's paragraph number and marginal heading left in the text; OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference (Ps 93:11 Vulg.); footnote mark in the text): I. Resurrectionis fides mani festo probata, Imprudenter ab hominibus impugnatur. Diebus → Diebus; noStra → nostra; aCInI, 41 → XCIII, 11; posita est I in sepulcro → posita est in sepulcro.
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection of the body, Miracles
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.1 (PL 38:1116–1117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.2PL 38:1117
Quaerunt ergo homines, utrum corruptio ista corporis, quam sentiunt in carne sua, futura sit in resurrectione mortuorum. Dicimus non futuram. Respondent nobis: Si corruptio non erit, quare manducabitur? Aut si non manducabitur, quare post resurrectionem Dominus manducavit? Modo Evangelium cum legeretur, audivimus, quia cum exhiberet se vivum oculis manibusque discipulorum suorum, parum illi visum est ad demonstrandam evidentiam corporalem: sed addidit, Habetis hic aliquid quod manducetur? Et obtulerunt ei partem piscis assi, et favum mellis: et manducavit, et reliquias dedit illis ( Luc. XlIV, 37-43). Dicitur ergo noLis: Si corruptio corporis non resurget, quare manducavit Dommus Christus? Legistis quia manducavit, numquid legistis quia esurivit? Quod manducavit, potestatis fuit, non egestatis. Si desideraret nianducare, egeret. Rursus si manducare non posset, minus valeret. Numquid et Angeli, quando suscepti sunt hospitio a patribus nostris, non manducaverunt, et lameD corruptibiles non fuerunt?
People ask, then, whether this corruption of the body, which they feel in their flesh, will exist in the resurrection of the dead. We say it will not. They answer us: “If there is to be no corruption, why will there be eating? Or if there is to be no eating, why did the Lord eat after the resurrection?” Just now, when the Gospel was read, we heard that when he showed himself alive to the eyes and hands of his disciples, it seemed too little to him for demonstrating the evidence of his body; but he added: “Have you anything here to eat?” “And they offered him a piece of broiled fish and a honeycomb; and he ate, and gave them what was left.” So it is said to us: “If the corruption of the body does not rise again, why did the Lord Christ eat?” You have read that he ate; have you read that he was hungry? That he ate belonged to power, not to need. If he desired to eat, he would be in need. Again, if he could not eat, he would have less power. Did not the angels too, when they were received as guests by our fathers, eat, and yet they were not corruptible?
Luke 24:41 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:42 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:43 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 18:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 19:3 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The risen Lord ate not from need but from power, as the angels ate when Abraham received them, though they were not corruptible.
- Quotation: Luke 24:41–43 (the Old Latin and Vulgate add the honeycomb and the giving of the remainder). The angels’ meal: Gen 18:8; cf. Gen 19:3.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text): Contra resurrectionem carnis obtendunt, Si corruptio noM erit, cur manducabitur? Quaerunt → Quaerunt.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.2 (PL 38:1117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-2
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.3PL 38:1117
Rursus dicunt: Resurgent vilia, quæ erant in corpore humano, cum quibus moritur homo? Respondemus: Non resorgent vitia. Et dicitur noLis: Quare ergo Dominus cum suorum vulnerum cicatricibus resurrexit? Quid ad hoc dicimys, nisi quia et hoc potestatis fuit, non necessitatis? Sic resurgere voluit, sic se voluit quibusdam dubitantibus exhibere. In illa carne cicatrix vulneris, sanavit vulnus incredulitatis.
Again they say: “Will the defects that were in the human body, with which a man dies, rise again?” We answer: “The defects will not rise again.” And it is said to us: “Why then did the Lord rise with the scars of his wounds?” What do we say to this, except that this too belonged to power, not to necessity? So he willed to rise, so he willed to show himself to some who were doubting. In that flesh the scar of a wound healed the wound of unbelief.
John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ kept his scars by choice, not necessity, so that the scar in his flesh might heal the wound of the disciples’ unbelief.
- Allusion: John 20:25–27.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text): Si carnis vitia non resurgent, cur in Christo cicatrices. Rursus → Rursus.
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection and ascension of Christ
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.3 (PL 38:1117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-3
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.4PL 38:1117
Adhuc disputant, et quærunt a nobis: Parvuli qui moriuntur, parvuli resurrecturi sunt? an actas crit plena reviviscentium, quorum crat parva morientium? Hoc quidem in Scripturis definitum non invenimus. Incorruptibilia corpora et immortalia resurrectura promissa sunt. Sed si parva retas redditur, si statura pusilla revocatur, numquid et propterea infirmitas revocatur? Si parvi crunt, numquid jacebunt, et ambulare non poterunt? Credibilius tamen accipitur et probabilius et rationabilius, plenas ætates resurrecturas, ut reddatur munere, quod accessurum erat tempore. Non cnim credituri sumus etiam senectam resurrecturam anhelam et curvam. Postremo corruptionem tolle, et quod vis adde.
They argue further, and ask us: “Will infants who die rise as infants? Or will the age of those who come back to life be full, though the age of those who died was small?” This, indeed, we do not find settled in the Scriptures. It is promised that bodies will rise incorruptible and immortal. But if the small age is given back, if the tiny stature is called back, is weakness also called back for that reason? If they are small, will they lie down and be unable to walk? Yet it is more credibly, more probably, and more reasonably accepted that ages will rise full, so that what time would have added may be given back as a gift. For we are not going to believe that old age too will rise again, short of breath and bent. In short: take away corruption, and add what you like.
1 Cor 15:42 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:53 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Scripture does not settle whether dead infants rise as infants; it is more reasonable to hold that all rise at full age, without the weakness of childhood or old age.
- Allusion: 1 Cor 15:42, 52–53. Augustine leaves the question open as not settled in Scripture.
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.4 (PL 38:1117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-4
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.5PL 38:1117
Sed, inquis, quomodo crit terrenum corpus in coelo? Philosophi cnim Gentium, illi valde magni, quorum vobis jam vel insanas vel certe humanas sententias intimavi (quæsierunt quippe ista non spiritu Dei, sed conjectura cordis humani); hinc maxime faciunt quæstionem, tractant subtiliter de momentis ponderum et ordine clementorum: et dicunt, quod etiam videmus, mundum sic esse dispositum, ut hina sit terra tanquam in fundo cjus, secunda aqua superfundatur terræ, tertius aer veniat, quartus æther cuncta cooperiat. Illud elementum supernum, quod xthera appellant, igni m dicunt esse liquidum et purum, inde sidcra esse formata, ibi nihil posse esse terrenum, quoniam ordo ponderum non admittit. Si dicamus cis nostra corpora in terra nova esse victura, et in cœlo non futura; audacter et temere, imo infideliter dicimus. Credere eniin debemus talia corpora nos habituros, ut ubi velimus, quando volucrimus, ibi simus. Nam si respondemus, ad solvendam de ordine ponderum quæstionem, in terra nos esse victuros; de ipso corpore Domini nobis est quæstio, cum quo ascendit in coelum.
“But,” you say, “how will an earthly body be in heaven?” For the philosophers of the Gentiles, those very great men, whose opinions, either mad or at any rate merely human, I have already set before you (for they sought these things not by the Spirit of God but by the guesswork of the human heart), raise their question chiefly from this point. They treat subtly of the moments of weights and the order of the elements, and they say, as we also see, that the world is so arranged that earth is first, as it were at its bottom; water second, poured over the earth; air comes third; fourth, ether covers everything. That highest element, which they call ether, they say is fire, clear and pure; from it the stars were formed; there nothing earthly can be, because the order of weights does not allow it. If we were to tell them that our bodies will live on a new earth and will not be in heaven, we would speak boldly and rashly, indeed unfaithfully. For we ought to believe that we shall have such bodies that we shall be wherever we wish, whenever we wish. For if, to solve the question about the order of weights, we answer that we shall live on earth, the question comes back to us about the Lord’s own body, with which he ascended into heaven.
Notes and citation
Summary: Philosophers argue from the order of the elements that an earthly body cannot be in heaven; but the answer cannot be that we shall stay on earth, since the Lord ascended with his body.
- “I have already set before you” refers to the preceding sermon (Sermon 241). The four elements in order of weight are the standard ancient physics.
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.5 (PL 38:1117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-5
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.6PL 38:1117–1118
Audistis quod de Evangelio modo recens sonuit in auribus nostris: Elevatis manibus suis benedixit eis. Et factum est, dum benediceret eis, recessit ab eis, et ferebatur iii cælum. Qui fcrebatur in coelum? Dominus Christus. Qui Dominus Christus? Dominus Jesus. Quid enim, separaturus es bominem a Deo, et facturus es aliam personam Dei, aliam bominis, ut jam non sit Trinitas, scd quaternitas? Quomodo tu homo anima es et corpus; sic Dominus Christus Verbum, anima et corpus. Sed Verbum non recessit a Patre: et ad nos venit, et Patrem non deseruit; et in utero carnem accepit, et mundum rexit. Quid ergo levatum est in coelum, nisi quod sumptum est de terra? id est, caro illa, corpus illud, de quo loquens ad discipulos ait: Palpate, et videtc, quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me videtis habere. Credamus hoc, fratres: et si argumenta philosophorum difficile solvimus; illud quod demonstratum est in Domino, sine difficultate fidei tencamus. Illi garriant, nos credamus. Sed non potest, inquiunt, esse terrenum corpus in cœlo. Quid, si hoc vclit Deus? Responde contra Deum, et dic: Non potest Deus. Nonne et tu quicumque pnganus, dicis omnipotentem Deum? Nonne in libro Platonis, quod hesterno die demonstravi, legitur dixisse Deus non factus diis a se factis: « Quoniam estis orti, immortales quidem esse et indissolubiles non potestis; non tamen dissolvemini, neque ulla vos mortis fata periment; nec erunt valentiora quam consilium meum, quod majus cst vinculum ad perpetuitatem vestram, quam illa quibus estis colligati? > Totum ad voluntatem suam redegit Deus, qui potest et quod impossibile est. Nam quid est aliud, Non potestis esse immortales, sed ut non moriamini ego facio; nisi, et quod fieri non potest, ego facio?
You have heard what sounded in our ears just now from the Gospel: “Lifting up his hands, he blessed them. And it came to pass, while he was blessing them, he withdrew from them and was carried into heaven.” Who was carried into heaven? The Lord Christ. Which Lord Christ? The Lord Jesus. What then, are you going to separate the man from God and make one person of God and another of the man, so that there is no longer a Trinity but a quaternity? Just as you, a man, are soul and body, so the Lord Christ is Word, soul, and body. But the Word did not withdraw from the Father: he both came to us and did not abandon the Father; he both took flesh in the womb and ruled the world. What then was lifted into heaven, except what was taken from the earth? That is, that flesh, that body of which he says, speaking to his disciples: “Handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have.” Let us believe this, brothers; and if we find it hard to answer the arguments of the philosophers, let us hold without difficulty of faith what was shown in the Lord. Let them chatter; let us believe. [7] “But,” they say, “an earthly body cannot be in heaven.” What if God wills it? Answer God back and say, “God cannot.” Do you not too, whoever you are, pagan, call God almighty? Is it not read in the book of Plato, as I showed yesterday, that the God who was not made said to the gods made by him: “Since you have come into being, you cannot indeed be immortal and indissoluble; yet you will not be dissolved, nor will any fates of death destroy you, nor will they be stronger than my purpose, which is a greater bond for your perpetuity than those by which you are bound together”? God brought everything back to his will, who can do even what is impossible. For what else does it mean, “You cannot be immortal, but I make it so that you do not die,” except, “I do even what cannot be done”?
Luke 24:50 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:51 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ, Word, soul, and body in one person, ascended with the flesh taken from earth; even Plato makes God keep created gods from dissolving by his will, so God can do what is otherwise impossible.
- Quotations: Luke 24:50–51; Luke 24:39. Plato, Timaeus 41a–b, quoted in Latin (Augustine says he cited it the day before: Sermon 241.8). Migne's paragraph 7 is inside this section, marked [7]; his cross-reference “(In superiore sermone, n. 8)” was removed. Christological passage (one person, against a “quaternity”) translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter heading and paragraph number left in the text; Migne's editorial cross-reference in the text; footnote mark in the text): corpus I. Sed → corpus. Sed; C APUT V. — 7. Sed non potest → Sed non potest; demonstravi (In superiore sermone, n. 8), legitur → demonstravi, legitur.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 41a–b (Plato (works); quotation)
Topics: Christology, Eschatology, Resurrection and ascension of Christ, Philosophy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.6 (PL 38:1117–1118; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-6
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.8PL 38:1118
Volo tamen aliquid etiam de diversitate ponderum disputare. Rogo te, dic mihi, Terra terra est, Aqua aqua est, Aer aer est,.Ether, id est coelum, et ignis ille liquidus coelum est. Quatuor nempe ista quasi gradatim construxerunt et aedificaverunt mundum, hoc est, ex his quatuor aedificatus est mundus. Quaere quid in imo Sit, terra est: quid desuper, agua est: quid super aquam, aer est: quid super acrem, coelum est, æther est. Quid corpora solida quæ tenentur atque tractantur? Non humida dico, quæ labuntur et fluunt; corpora dico tractabilia, unde sunt? Terræ deputanda sunt, an aquae, an aeri, an ætheri? Responsurus es, Terræ. Terrenum ergo corpus est lignum? Plane terrenum. In terra nascitur, in terra alitur, in terra crescit. Tractabile est, non fluxibile. Redi mecum ad illum ordinem ponderum. Terra in fundamento est: ordinem sequere. Quid super terram? Aqua. Quare lignum natat super aquam? Terrenuin est corpus: si revoces ad illum ordinem ponderum, sub aqua esse debuit, non supra. Invenimus inter terram et lignum aquam mediam: subter terrain, super aquam, et super aquam iterum terram, quandoquidem lignum terra est. Perdidisti illum ordinem, tene fidem. Ergo terrena corpora inventa sunt super elementum, quod secundum est in ordine elementorum, quando natant ligna, neque merguntur.
I want, however, to argue something also about the difference of weights. Tell me, I ask you: earth is earth, water is water, air is air, ether, that is, heaven, and that clear fire, is heaven. These four, so to speak, have built and constructed the world in steps; that is, from these four the world was built. Ask what is at the bottom: it is earth. What is above it: it is water. What is above the water: it is air. What is above the air: it is heaven, it is ether. What about solid bodies, which are held and handled? I do not mean moist ones, which slip and flow; I mean bodies that can be handled: where are they from? Are they to be assigned to earth, or to water, or to air, or to ether? You will answer, to earth. Is wood, then, an earthly body? Plainly earthly. It is born in the earth, nourished in the earth, grows in the earth. It can be handled; it does not flow. Come back with me to that order of weights. Earth is at the foundation; follow the order. What is above the earth? Water. Why does wood float on water? It is an earthly body: if you call it back to that order of weights, it ought to be under the water, not on top. We find water in the middle between earth and wood: earth below, the water above, and above the water earth again, since wood is earth. You have lost that order; hold on to faith. So earthly bodies are found above the element that is second in the order of the elements, when wood floats and does not sink.
Notes and citation
Summary: Floating wood, an earthly body resting above water, already breaks the philosophers’ order of weights.
- The paragraph numbers jump from 6 to 8 because Migne's paragraph 7 is inside 242.6; no text seems lost.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text): Terrenum corpus contra ponderum ordinem super aquam. Volo → Volo.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.8 (PL 38:1118; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-8
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.9PL 38:1118
Attende aliud, quod plus mireris. Corpora ipsa gravissima, cL tamen terrena, quæ mox ut dimissa fuerint super aquam, continuo demerguntur, et ad ima profunda perveniunt, sicut est ferrum, postremo sicut est plurnbum. Quid enim plumbo gravius? Accedit tamen manus artificis ad plumbum, facit inde aliquod vas concavum, et natat plumbum super aquam. Ergone non dabit Deus corpori meo, quod dat artifex plumbo? Deinde aquam ipsam ubi ponitis? Redite ad ordinem elementorum. Certe respondebitis, quod aqua sit s'iper terram. Quare ergo antequamcurrant in terra, pendent nubibus flumina?
Consider something else, at which you may marvel more. The very heaviest bodies, and yet earthly ones, which as soon as they are let go on the water at once sink and reach the lowest depths, such as iron, and finally lead: for what is heavier than lead? Yet the craftsman’s hand comes to the lead, makes some hollow vessel from it, and the lead floats on the water. Will God not then give to my body what a craftsman gives to lead? Next, where do you put water itself? Go back to the order of the elements. Surely you will answer that water is above the earth. Why then, before they run on the earth, do rivers hang in the clouds?
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Summary: If a craftsman can make lead float, God can give the risen body what the craftsman gives lead; and water itself hangs in the clouds above the air.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (restored text removed as a heading): Corpora ipsa gravissima → Attende aliud, quod plus mireris. Corpora ipsa gravissima.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.9 (PL 38:1118; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-9
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.10PL 38:1118
Revoca inde considerationem tuam et cogitationem ad ea quæ dicturus sum, si Domino adjuvante potucro. Quid facilius movetur, quid velocius agitatur, gravius corpus, an levius? Quis non respondeat, Levius? Leviora enim corpora facilius moventur, velocius aguntur: graviora difficilius atque tardius. Certe regulam fixisti, certe considerasti, et circumspectis omnibus respondisti quia facilius moventur et velocius aguntur corpora leviora, quam graviora. Ita cst, dicis. Responde ergo mihi. Quare levissima aranea tarde se movet, et gravis equus velociter currit? De ipsis hominibus loquar: majus corpus hominis gravius est; brevius corpus quod minus habet ponderis, levius est. Ita vero est, sed si alius portet. Si autem ipse homo corpus suum portet, validus currit, macer languore vix ambulat. Appende macrum et robustum hominem; illum languore vix paucas libellas appendentem, illum salubritate corporis multa poudo in carne sua gerentem: tenta tu ambos tollere; gravis est validus, levis est macilentus. Recedat portator, appareat ambulator; ipsos dimitte sibi, agant corpora sua: video macrum vix passum moventem, video validum robustumque currentem. Si hoc valet sanitas, immortalitas quid valebit?
Turn your attention and thought from there to what I am about to say, if with the Lord’s help I can. Which is moved more easily, which is driven more swiftly, a heavier body or a lighter one? Who would not answer, the lighter? For lighter bodies are moved more easily and driven more swiftly; heavier ones with more difficulty and more slowly. You have certainly fixed the rule, certainly considered it, and after looking around at everything you have answered that lighter bodies are moved more easily and driven more swiftly than heavier ones. “It is so,” you say. Then answer me: why does the very light spider move slowly, and the heavy horse run swiftly? Let me speak of men themselves. A bigger human body is heavier; a shorter body, which has less weight, is lighter. That is so, but only if someone else carries it. But if the man carries his own body, the strong man runs, the one wasted by sickness can barely walk. Weigh a thin man and a robust man: the one, from sickness, weighing barely a few pounds, the other, from health of body, bearing many pounds in his flesh. Try lifting both yourself: the strong man is heavy, the thin man is light. Let the carrier withdraw, let the walker appear; leave them to themselves, let them move their own bodies: I see the thin man barely taking a step, I see the strong and robust man running. If health can do this, what will immortality be able to do?
Notes and citation
Summary: A heavy, healthy man runs while a light, sick man barely walks; if health gives such ease of movement, immortality will give far more.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.10 (PL 38:1118; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-10
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.11PL 38:1118–1119
Dabit ergo Deus miram facilitatem, miram levitatem. Non sine causa illa corpora spiritualia nuncupata sunt. Non ideo dicta sunt spiritualia, quia crunt spiritus, non corpora. Nam ista quae modo habemus, dicuntur animalia corpora: et tamen animæ non sunt, sed corpora. Quomodo nunc ista animalia dicuntur, et animæ non sunt: sic illa spiritualia dicuntur, sed non sunt spiritus, quia corpora erunt. Quare dicitur spirituale corpus, charissimi, nisi quia ad nutum spiritus servict? Nihil tibi contradicet ex te, nihil in te rebellabit adversus te. Non ibi erit quod Apostolus gemit, Caro concupiscit adversus spiritum, et spiritus adversus carnem. Non ibi erit, Video aliam legem in membris meis repugnantem legi mentis meæ ( Rom. VII, 23). Hæc bella non ibi erunt: pax ibi erit, pax perfecta ibi erit. Ubi volueris, eris: sed a Deo nou recedes. Ubi volueris, eris: sed quocumque ieris, Dcum tuum habebis. De quo beatus eris, semper cum illo eris.
God will therefore give a wonderful ease, a wonderful lightness. Not without reason have those bodies been called spiritual. They are not called spiritual because they will be spirits, not bodies. For these bodies we now have are called animal bodies, and yet they are not souls but bodies. Just as these are now called animal and are not souls, so those are called spiritual, but they are not spirits, for they will be bodies. Why is a body called spiritual, dearly beloved, except because it will serve at the nod of the spirit? Nothing in you will contradict you, nothing in you will rebel against you. There will not be there what the Apostle groans over: “The flesh lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh.” There will not be there: “I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind.” These wars will not be there: there will be peace there, perfect peace there. Wherever you wish, you will be; but you will not withdraw from God. Wherever you wish, you will be; but wherever you go, you will have your God. You will be happy in him; you will always be with him.
1 Cor 15:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 5:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 7:23 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The risen body is called spiritual not because it becomes spirit but because it will obey the spirit perfectly, with no more war between flesh and spirit.
- Allusion: 1 Cor 15:44. Quotations: Gal 5:17; Rom 7:23. Corpora animalia is Paul’s “natural” (psychic) body, rendered literally as “animal” to keep Augustine’s contrast with anima (soul).
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.11 (PL 38:1118–1119; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
242.12PL 38:1119
Ncmo ergo fallat, nemo argumentetur, nemo sua suspicione deliret: quod nobis promisit Deus, venturum esse certissime teneamus. Quando videbatur Christus, fratres mei, quando spiritus putabatur, ut se corpus esse persuaderet, non solum præbebat oculis videndum, sed etiam manibus contrectandum. Quibus ad exhibendam fidei veritatem in corpore, diguatus est etiam non necessitate, sed potestate cibum sumere: tamen adhuc illis prae gaudio trepidantibus, firmamentum cordis adhibuit desanctis Scripturis; et ait illis, Hcec sunt verba quce locutus sum ad vos, cum adhuc essem vobiscum; quoniam necesse est impleri omnia quæ scripta sunt in Lege Moysi, et Prophetis, et Psalmis de me. Tunc aperuit illis sensum, sicut Evangelium loquitur, quod modo lectum cst, ut intelligerent Scripturas; et dixit eit, Quia sic scriptum est, ct sic oportebat Christum pati, et resurgere a mortuis tertio die, et prædicari in nomineejus pœnitentiam et remissionem peccalorum per omnes gentes, incipientibus ab Jerusalem ( Luc. XXIV, 44-47). lilud non vidimus, sed hoc videmus. Quando ista promittebantur, nondum videbantur. Apostoli Christum præsentem videbant: sed toto orbe terrarum diffusam Ecclesiam non videbant: videbant caput, et de corpore credebant. Habemus vices nostras, habemus gratiam dispensationis et distributionis nostræ: ad credendum certissimis documentis, tempora nobis in una fide sunt distributa. Illi videbant caput, et credebant de corpore: nos videmus corpus, credamus de capite.
Let no one, then, deceive, let no one argue, let no one rave with his own suspicion: let us hold most certainly that what God has promised us will come. When Christ was seen, my brothers, when he was thought to be a spirit, in order to convince them that he was a body he offered himself not only to their eyes to be seen but also to their hands to be handled. To them, to show the truth of faith in his body, he even deigned to take food, not by necessity but by power; yet as they were still trembling for joy, he applied the firm support of the holy Scriptures to their hearts, and said to them: “These are the words that I spoke to you while I was still with you: that all things must be fulfilled which are written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning me.” Then he opened their understanding, as the Gospel says, which was just read, that they might understand the Scriptures; and he said to them: “For thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead on the third day, and that repentance and the forgiveness of sins be preached in his name among all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.” That we did not see, but this we do see. When these things were promised, they were not yet seen. The apostles saw Christ present, but they did not see the Church spread through the whole world: they saw the head and believed about the body. We have our turn; we have the grace of our own dispensation and allotment. For believing on the surest evidence, the times have been distributed to us in one faith. They saw the head and believed about the body; we see the body; let us believe about the head.
Luke 24:41 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:45 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:46 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:47 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The apostles saw the risen head and believed in the Church to come; we see the Church spread through the world and should believe about the head.
- Quotations: Luke 24:44–47; allusion to Luke 24:41.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text; footnote mark in the text; word divided and misread by OCR): Resurrectionis promissio tot aliis Dei promissionibus jam impletis confirmatur. Ncmo → Ncmo; tenea- IUUS → teneamus; trepidantibus I, → trepidantibus,.
Topics: The church, Prophecy and fulfilment
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 242.12 (PL 38:1119; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/242-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
Chapter 243
243.1PL 38:1119
Narratio resurrectionis Domini nostri Jesu Christi secundum evangelistam Joannem hodie legi caepit. Hoc enim - scitis, et commendaverant vobis, secundum omnes quatuor Evangelistas istis diebus resurrectionem Domini recitari. In his ergo quæ audivimus, illud tantum solet movere, quare dixerit Dominus Jesus mulieri quærenti corpus ejus, et eum jam vivum agnoscenti: Noli me tangere; nondum enim ascendi ad Patrem meum. Din autem vobis, et meminisse debelis, non omnia omnes dicere; sed dici ab aliis, quæ ab aliis praetermissa sunt. Non tamen ita, ut inter se repugnare credendi sint, si absit contentio, et adsit pietas intelligentis. Nam sicut legitur apud cvangelistam Matthæum, posteaquam resurrexit, occurrit duabus mulicribus, in quibus et ista erat; et dixit eis, Avete. Illæ autem accesserunt, et tenuerunt pedes ejus, et adoraverunt eum ( Matth. XXVIII, 9 ): et utique ad Patrem nondum ascenderat. Quomodo ergohuic nunc dicitur, Noli me tangere; nondum enim ascendi ad Pa- Irena meum? Sic cnim verita ista videntur sonare, quasi tunc eum posset tangere Maria, quando ascendisset in coelum. Si in terra positum non tangit, ia coelo sedentem quis mortalium potest tangere T
The account of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ according to the evangelist John began to be read today. For you know, and it has been commended to you, that in these days the resurrection of the Lord is recited according to all four evangelists. In what we have heard, then, the one thing that usually troubles people is why the Lord Jesus said to the woman who was seeking his body, and who now recognized him alive: “Do not touch me; for I have not yet ascended to my Father.” I have told you, and you ought to remember, that not all say everything, but that some tell what others have passed over; yet not in such a way that they should be believed to contradict one another, if contentiousness is absent and the reverence of one who understands is present. For as we read in the evangelist Matthew, after he rose he met two women, among whom she too was, and said to them, “Hail.” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him; and certainly he had not yet ascended to the Father. How then is it now said to her, “Do not touch me; for I have not yet ascended to my Father”? For these words seem to sound as though Mary could touch him then, when he had ascended into heaven. If she does not touch him when he is on earth, which mortal can touch him when he is seated in heaven?
John 20:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine raises the difficulty of “Do not touch me” (John 20:17), since in Matthew the women held his feet before he ascended.
- Quotations: John 20:17; Matt 28:9.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text): Difficultas in verbis Domini nolentis se a Maria tangi ante ascensionem. Narratio → Narratio.
Topics: Resurrection and ascension of Christ
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.1 (PL 38:1119; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
243.2PL 38:1119
Sed ille tactus fidem significat. Tangit Christum, qui credit in Christum. Nam et illa mulier quae fluxum sanguinis patiebatur, dixit apud se ipsam: Si tetigero fimbriam vestimenti ejus, salva ero ( Id. ix, 21 ). Fide tctigit, et sanitas subsecuta est, quam prasumpsit. Denique at nossemus quid sit vere tangere, Dominus continuo dixit discipulis suis: Quis me tetigit? Et dixerunt discipuli: Turbce te comprimunt. et dicis, Quia me tetigit? Et ille: Tetigit me aliquis ( Luc. VIII, 45-46). Quasi dicens: Turba premit, fides tangit. Videtur ergo ista Maria, cui dixit Dominus, Noli me tangere; nondum enim ascendi ad Patrem meum, Ecclesiæ gestare personant, quæ tunc in Christum credidit, cum ascendisset ad Patrem. Ecce vos interrogo, quando credidistis; interrogo Ecclesiam toto orbe terrarum diffusam, cujus persona crat in una femina: et una voce mihi respondet, Tunc credidi, cum Jesus ascendisset ad Patrem. Quid est, Tunc credidi; nisi, tunc tetigi? Multi carnales Christum tantummodo boni. nem putaverunt, divinitatem in illo latentem non intellexerunt. Non bene tetigerunt, quia non bene crediderunt. Vis bene tangere? Intellige Christum ubi est Patri coæternus, et tetigisti. Si autem hominem putas, et nibil amplius putas, tibi nundum ascendit ad Patrem.
But that touch signifies faith. He touches Christ who believes in Christ. For that woman too who suffered from a flow of blood said within herself: “If I touch the fringe of his garment, I shall be made well.” She touched by faith, and the healing she had presumed on followed. Finally, so that we might know what it is truly to touch, the Lord at once said to his disciples: “Who touched me?” And the disciples said: “The crowds are pressing you, and do you say, Who touched me?” And he said: “Someone touched me”; as if saying, The crowd presses, faith touches. This Mary, then, to whom the Lord said, “Do not touch me; for I have not yet ascended to my Father,” seems to bear the person of the Church, which believed in Christ when he had ascended to the Father. See, I ask you when you believed; I ask the Church spread through the whole world, whose person was in one woman; and with one voice she answers me: “I believed when Jesus had ascended to the Father.” What is “I believed then,” except “I touched then”? Many carnal people thought Christ only a man; they did not understand the divinity hidden in him. They did not touch well, because they did not believe well. Do you want to touch well? Understand Christ where he is coeternal with the Father, and you have touched. But if you think him a man and think nothing more, for you he has not yet ascended to the Father.
Matt 9:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 8:45 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 8:46 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: To touch Christ is to believe in him; Mary stands for the Church, which believed once he had ascended, and whoever thinks him only a man has not yet touched him.
- Quotations: Matt 9:21; Luke 8:45–46; John 20:17.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.2 (PL 38:1119; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-2
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
243.3PL 38:1119–1120
Adhibuit ergo Dominus Jesus speciem corporis sui humanis sensibus, ad confirmandam carnis resurrectionem. Nihil nos aliud docere voluit, ostendendo se vivum in corpore post resurrectionem suam, nisi ut credatur a nobis resurrectio mortuorum. Cum ergo integra instauranda sint omnb, quæri solet ab eis qui scire desiderant, et rursus proponi solet ab eis qui ligitare dcsiderant, quæstio dilficilis de usu membrorum. Dicunt enim, corpus nostrum habere omnia membra sua, et appar jre quæ membra quibus sint operibus necessaria. Quis enim nesciat, quis non videat, ad videndum nos habere oculos, aures ad audiendum, linguam ad loquendam, nares ad olfaciendum, dentes ad mandendum, manus ad operandum, pedes ad ambulandum; illa etiam membra quæ pudenda dicuutur, ad generandum? Porro autem interiora eliam viscera, quae ne horrerent aspectibus, voluit Deus esse contecta: interiora nostra et intestina quæ dicuntur, ad quos usus valeant, et multi hominum, et melius medici cognoverint, Argumentantur erGo et dicunt nobis: Si aures habe bimits ut audiamus, oculos ut vidcamus, linguam ut loquamur; dentes quare habebimus, si non manducabimus, fauces, pulmones, stomachum, intestina qua cibi transcunt, et pro nostrae valetudinis temperie commutantur; postremo illa ipsa membra quæ vocantur pudenda, quare, inquiunt, habebimus, ubi nulla erit generatio, nulla digestio?
So the Lord Jesus offered the appearance of his body to human senses to confirm the resurrection of the flesh. By showing himself alive in the body after his resurrection he willed to teach us nothing else than that we should believe in the resurrection of the dead. Since, then, all things are to be restored whole, a difficult question about the use of the members is usually asked by those who desire to know, and again put forward by those who desire to quarrel. For they say that our body has all its members, and that it is plain which members are needed for which works. For who does not know, who does not see, that we have eyes for seeing, ears for hearing, a tongue for speaking, nostrils for smelling, teeth for chewing, hands for working, feet for walking, and also those members which are called shameful, for begetting? Further, there are also the inner organs, which God willed to be covered so that they would not horrify the eyes: our interior parts and what are called the intestines; for what uses they serve, many people know, and physicians know better. So they argue and say to us: “If we are to have ears to hear, eyes to see, a tongue to speak, why shall we have teeth if we do not eat, a throat, lungs, a stomach, intestines through which food passes and is changed to suit the balance of our health? Finally, those very members which are called shameful, why,” they say, “shall we have them where there will be no begetting and no digestion?”
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ showed his risen body to confirm the resurrection; opponents then ask what use teeth, stomach, and sexual organs will be where there is no eating or begetting.
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.3 (PL 38:1119–1120; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-3
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243.4PL 38:1120
Quid eis respondeamus? Numquidnam dicturi sumus sine intestinis nos resurrecturos, ad similitudinem statuarum? Nam de dentibus facile respondetur. Dentes enim non tantum nos adjuvant ad mandendum, verum etiam ad loquendum; sicut plectrum nervos, sic linguam nostram, ut syllabas sonet, percutientes. Caetera ergo membra nostra erunt ad speciem, non ad usum; ad commendationem pulchritudinis, non ad indigentiam necessitatis. Numquid quia vacabunt, ideo indecora erunt? Et quidem nunc quia imperiti sumus, et causas rerum ignoramus, si videantur interiora nostra, horrentur potiUs quam diliguntur. Quis enim novit quemadmodum sibi invicem connexa sint membra, et quibus numeris coaptata? Unde vocatur etiam harmonia; quod verbum dictum est de musica: ubi videmus certe in cithara nervos distentos. Si omnes nervi similiter sonent, nulla est cantilena. Diversa distensio diversos edit sonos; sed diversi soni ratione conjuncti, pariunt, non videntibus pulchritudinem, sed audientibus suavitatem. Istam rationem quisquis in membris humanis didicerit, tantum miratur, tantum delectatur, ut omni visibili pulchritudini ista ratio ab intelligentibus præferatur. Modo eam nescimus; sed tunc sciemus: non quia nudabuntur, sed quia etiam cooperta latcre non poterunt.
What shall we answer them? Are we going to say that we shall rise without intestines, like statues? About teeth, indeed, the answer is easy. For teeth help us not only to chew but also to speak, striking our tongue as a plectrum strikes strings, so that it sounds syllables. Our other members, then, will be for beauty, not for use; for the setting off of loveliness, not for the want of necessity. Will they be unsightly because they will be idle? And indeed now, because we are unskilled and ignorant of the causes of things, if our interior parts were seen they would be shuddered at rather than loved. For who knows how the members are joined to one another, and in what proportions they are fitted together? Hence it is also called harmony, a word taken from music, where we certainly see strings stretched on the lyre. If all the strings sounded alike, there would be no tune. Different tension gives out different sounds; but different sounds joined by proportion produce not beauty for those who see but sweetness for those who hear. Whoever has learned this proportion in the human members marvels so much, delights so much, that this proportion is preferred by those who understand to all visible beauty. Now we do not know it; but then we shall know it, not because the parts will be laid bare, but because even when covered they will not be able to stay hidden.
Notes and citation
Summary: Teeth serve speech as well as eating; the other members will exist for beauty, and the hidden harmony of the body’s proportions will then be known.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text): Harmonia membrorum. Quid eis → Quid eis.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.4 (PL 38:1120; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-4
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
243.5PL 38:1120
Respondebit mihi aliquis, et dicet: Quomodo si cooperta erunt, latere non poterunt? Corda nostra non latebunt, et viscera latebunt? Cogitationes, fratres. mei, cogitationes quas modo non videt nisi Deus, omnes invicem videbunt in illa societate sanctorum. Nemo ibi vult tectum esse quod cogitat, quia nemo ibi male cogitat. Unde ait Apostolus, Nolite ante tempus quidquam judicare: id est, Nc temere judicetis, quod non videtis quo corde quis faciat. Si aliquid fit, quod et bono corde fieri potest, noli reprehendere: noli tibi amplius quam humanitas exigit usurpare. Cor videre, Dei est: bominum autem non est, nisi de liis quæ manifesta sunt judicare. Nolite ergo, inquit, ante tempus quidquam judicare. Quid est, ante tempus? Sequitur, et dicit: Donec veniat Dominus, et illuminet abscondita tenebrarum. Quas dixerit tenebras, consequentibus verbis evidenter ostendit: Illuminet, inquit, abscondita tenebrarum. Quid est hoc? Audi quod sequitur: Et manifestabit cogitationes cordis ( I Cor. iv, 5). Hoc est illuminare abscondita tenebrarum, manifestas facere cogitationes cordis. Modo ergo cogitationes nostræ nobis ipsis, singulis quibusquc in luce sunt, quia novimus cas: scd proximis nostris in tenebris sunt, quia non vident cas. Ibi quod nosti te cogitare, et alter sciturus est. Quid times? Modo vis abscondere, modo times publicari cogitatones tuas: forte enim aliquid mali aliquando cogitas, forte aliquid turpe, forte aliquid vanum. Nihil ibi nisi bonum, nihil nisi honestum, nihil nisi verum, nihil nisi purum, nibil nisi sincerum, quando ibi fueris, cogitabis. Quomodo vis videri modo faciem tuam, sic tunc voles videri conscientiam tuam. Nam ct ipsa agnitio, charissimi, ipsa agnitio nonne omnium nostrum erit? Putatis quia me cognituri estis, ideo quia me nostis, ct patrem meum non estis cognituri, quem non nostis, aut nescio quem episcopum, qui ante multos annos in hac ecclesia fuit? Omnes noscetis. Qui ibi erunt, non ideo se agnoscent, quia facies videbunt: majori notitia ibi erit invicem agnitio. Sic videbunt omnes, et multo excellentius, quomodo hic solent videre Prophetæ. Divine videbunt, quando Deo pleni erunt. Nec quod offendat erit, nec quod lateat cognitorem.
Someone will answer me and say: “How, if they are covered, will they not be able to stay hidden?” Will our hearts not be hidden, and our organs be hidden? Thoughts, my brothers, thoughts which now no one sees but God, all will see in one another in that fellowship of the saints. No one there wants what he thinks to be covered, because no one there thinks evil. Hence the Apostle says: “Do not judge anything before the time”; that is, do not judge rashly, since you do not see with what heart someone acts. If something is done which can be done with a good heart, do not find fault; do not claim for yourself more than humanity requires. To see the heart belongs to God; it belongs to men only to judge of what is manifest. “Do not, then,” he says, “judge anything before the time.” What is “before the time”? He goes on and says: “Until the Lord comes and lights up the hidden things of darkness.” What darkness he meant he shows plainly in the following words: “He will light up,” he says, “the hidden things of darkness.” What is this? Hear what follows: “And he will make manifest the thoughts of the heart.” This is to light up the hidden things of darkness: to make manifest the thoughts of the heart. Now, then, our thoughts are in the light to ourselves, each one, because we know them; but to our neighbors they are in darkness, because they do not see them. There, what you know you are thinking, another too will know. What do you fear? Now you want to hide, now you fear your thoughts being made public; for perhaps you sometimes think something evil, perhaps something shameful, perhaps something vain. When you are there, you will think nothing but what is good, nothing but what is honorable, nothing but what is true, nothing but what is pure, nothing but what is sincere. As you now want your face to be seen, so then you will want your conscience to be seen. For knowledge itself, dearly beloved, will not knowledge itself be shared by all of us? Do you think that you will know me because you know me, and will not know my father, whom you do not know, or some bishop or other who was in this church many years ago? You will know everyone. Those who are there will not recognize one another because they see faces; the recognition there will be by a greater knowledge. All will see in this way, and much more excellently, as the prophets are accustomed to see here. They will see divinely, when they are full of God. There will be nothing to offend, nothing to be hidden from the one who knows.
1 Cor 4:5 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In the resurrection thoughts will be open to all, for no one will think evil; the saints will know one another, even those never seen, by a knowledge like the prophets’.
- Quotation: 1 Cor 4:5.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading left in the text): Omnes invicem noti erunt. Respondebit → Respondebit.
Topics: Eschatology, The last judgment, Heaven and eternal reward
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.5 (PL 38:1120; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-5
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
243.6PL 38:1120
Erunt ergo ibi membra integra, etiam quae hic pudenda sunt, sed ibi pudenda non erunt. Non ibi erit sollicitum integritatis decus, ubi non erit libidinis dedecus. Ecce etiam hic, ubi omnium quodam modo nostrorum operum necessitas mater est; quae necessitas tunc non erit; tamen invenimus aliqua quæ Deus posuit in corporibus ad nullos usus, sed ad solum decus. Jamdudum per membra curre. bam: et nunc ea paulo diligentius retexamus. Oculos habcmus ad videndum, aures ad audiendum, nares ad olfaciendum, os et linguam ad loquendum, dentes ad mandendum, guttur ad vorandum, stomachum ad suscipiendum et coquendum, intestina ad trajiciendos cibos ad ima, et illa quæ pudenda appellantur, vel ad egestionem, vel ad generationem: ad operandum manus, ad ambulandum pedes. Barbae quis usus, nisi sola est pulchritudo? Quare Deus barbam creavit in homine? Speciem video, usum non quæro. Apparet feminae quare habeant ubera, utique ut parvulos lactent: mammillas viri quare habent? Interroga usum, nullus est: interroga speciem, decet mammillatum pectus et viros. Virili pectori mammillas detrahe, et vide quantam pulchritudinem dempseris, quantam ingesseris foeditatem.
So the members will be there whole, even those that are shameful here; but there they will not be shameful. There will be no anxious care for the honor of chastity where there is no dishonor of lust. See, even here, where necessity is in a way the mother of all our works (a necessity that will not exist then), we still find some things that God placed in bodies for no use but for ornament alone. A while ago I was running through the members; now let us go over them again a little more carefully. We have eyes for seeing, ears for hearing, nostrils for smelling, mouth and tongue for speaking, teeth for chewing, throat for swallowing, stomach for receiving and digesting, intestines for passing food down, and those parts called shameful either for evacuation or for begetting; hands for working, feet for walking. What use is a beard, except that it is only beauty? Why did God create the beard in man? I see the beauty; I do not look for a use. It is plain why women have breasts: of course, to suckle infants. Why do men have nipples? Ask for the use: there is none. Ask for the beauty: a chest with nipples becomes men too. Take the nipples off a man’s chest, and see how much beauty you have taken away, how much ugliness you have brought in.
Notes and citation
Summary: Some members serve no use even now, such as the beard and a man’s nipples, but only beauty; so the risen members, including those now shameful, will exist for beauty.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.6 (PL 38:1120; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-6
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
243.7PL 38:1120–1121
Sic ergo, charissimi, sic credite, sic tenete, multorum membrorum ibi usum non futurum, sed dccus nullius defuturum. Nihil indecorum crit ibi, summa pax erit, nihil discordans, nihil monstruosum, nihil quod offendat aspcctum, in omnibus Deus laudabitur. Nam si nunc in ista infirmitate carnis ct tenera operatione membrorum apparet tanta corporis pulchritudo, quæ illicit libidinosos, et ad quærendum cxc.tat sive studiosos sive curiosos; et si inveniatur in corpore ratio numerorum, non alius artifex horum, alius invenitur esse caelorum, sed idem ipse crcator infimorum atque summorum: quanto magis ibi, ubi erit libido nulla, nulla corruptio, nulla deformis pravitas, nulla æru̇mnosa necessitas, sed interminata aeternitas, pulchra veritas, summa felicitas?
So then, dearly beloved, believe this, hold this: that the use of many members will not be there, but the beauty of none will be lacking. Nothing will be unseemly there; there will be supreme peace, nothing discordant, nothing monstrous, nothing to offend the sight; in all things God will be praised. For if now, in this weakness of the flesh and the fragile working of the members, so great a beauty of the body appears, which entices the lustful and stirs up to inquiry both the studious and the curious; and if a rational order of proportions is found in the body, so that the maker of these is found to be no other than the maker of the heavens, but the same creator of the lowest and the highest things: how much more there, where there will be no lust, no corruption, no misshapen depravity, no wretched necessity, but endless eternity, beautiful truth, supreme happiness?
Notes and citation
Summary: The risen body will lack nothing of beauty, and its order, already admirable now, will be far greater where there is no lust or corruption.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (footnote mark in the text): summorum I: → summorum:.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.7 (PL 38:1120–1121; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-7
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
243.8PL 38:1121
Sed dicis milii: Quid acturus sum? usus membrorum ibi non erit, quid acturus sum? Nulla actio tibi videtur stare, videre, amare, laudare? Ecce dies isti sancti, qui post resurrectionem Domini cele. brantur, significant futuram vitam post resurrectionem nostram. Sicut enim Quadragesimæ dies ante Pascha significaverunt laboriosam vitam in hac ærumna mortali: sic isti dies læti significant futuram vitam, ubi erimus cum Domino regnaturi. Vita quae significatur Quadragesima ante Pascha, modo habetur: vita quae significatur quinquaginta diebus post resurrectionem Domini, non babetur, sed speratur, et sperando amatur; et in ipso amore Deus qui promisit ista, laudatur, et ipsae laudes Alleluia sunt. Quid est enim Alleluia? Verbum est hebræum, Alleluia, Laudate Deum. Allelu, Laudate; la, Deum: Alleluia ergo laudate Deum sonamus, et invicem nos excitamus ad laudandum Deum: concordibus cordibus melius quam cithara chordis, dicimus laudes Deo, cantamus Alleluia. Et cum cantaverimus, propter infinitatem recedimus, ut corpora reficiamus. Quare reficimus, nisi quia deficimus? Deinde tanta est infirmitas carnis, tanta hujus vitæ molestia, ut quælibet magna res veniat in fastidium. Quomodo desideravimus istos dies ad annum venturos, cum modo abirent; et quanta aviditate ad illos venimus per temporis intervallum? Si diceretur nobis, Sine cessatione dicite Alleluia, excusaremus. Quare excusaremus? Quia lassi non possemus, quia et ad ipsum bonum fastidio fatigaremur. Ibi nullus defectus, nulla fastidia. State, laudate, qui statis in domo Domini, in atriis domus Dei nostri. Quid quæris, quid ibi facturus sis? Beati, ait, qui habitant in domo tua, Domine; in sæcula sœculorum laudabunt te.
But you say to me: “What shall I do? There will be no use of the members there: what shall I do?” Does it seem no activity to you to stand, to see, to love, to praise? See, these holy days, which are celebrated after the Lord’s resurrection, signify the life to come after our resurrection. For as the days of Lent before Easter signified the toilsome life in this mortal hardship, so these joyful days signify the life to come, where we shall reign with the Lord. The life signified by Lent before Easter is had now; the life signified by the fifty days after the Lord’s resurrection is not had, but hoped for, and by hoping it is loved; and in that love God, who promised these things, is praised, and these praises are Alleluia. For what is Alleluia? It is a Hebrew word, Alleluia: “Praise God.” Allelu, “Praise”; ia, “God.” So in Alleluia we sound “Praise God,” and stir one another up to praise God; with hearts in concord, better than a lyre with its strings, we speak praises to God, we sing Alleluia. And when we have sung, we withdraw on account of our weakness to refresh our bodies. Why do we refresh ourselves, except because we fail? Then so great is the weakness of the flesh, so great the trouble of this life, that any great thing at all comes to be tedious. How we longed for these days to come round with the year, though just now they were departing; and with what eagerness we come to them across the interval of time! If we were told, “Say Alleluia without ceasing,” we would excuse ourselves. Why would we excuse ourselves? Because, tired, we could not; because we would be worn out by weariness even of the good itself. There, no failing, no weariness. Stand, praise, you who stand in the house of the Lord, in the courts of the house of our God. Why do you ask what you will do there? “Blessed,” it says, “are those who dwell in your house, O Lord; they will praise you for ages of ages.”
Ps 135:1 (134:1 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 135:2 (134:2 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 84:4 (83:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The fifty days after Easter signify the life to come, in which the saints will stand, see, love, and praise God with Alleluia without weariness.
- Allusions and quotation: Ps 135:1–2 (134:1–2 Vulg.); Ps 84:4 (83:5 Vulg.). Augustine’s etymology: Hebrew hallelu “praise,” yah “God” (the Lord). The printed infinitatem is read as infirmitatem (“weakness”).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings left in the text): Quadragesima ante Pascha et quinquaginta dies post Pascha. Alleluia. In futura vita laus Dei sine cessatione, sine fastidio. Sed dicis → Sed dicis.
Topics: Eschatology, Easter and the church year, Hymns and singing
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 243.8 (PL 38:1121; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/243-8
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).