On the Trinity 14–17

Latin text: PL 3 (Latin text: J.-P. Migne, Patrologia Latina 3, digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (patrologia_latina-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 5 (1886).

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Chapter 14

14PL 3:936b–938b

Et tamen adhuc dubitat haereticus Christum dicere esse Deum: quem Deum tot et rebus animadverti et vocibus approbatum. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo veniens in hunc mundum in sua venit, cum homo nullum fecerit mundum? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo mundus per ipsum factus esse refertur, cum non per hominem mundus, sed post mundum homo institutus referatur? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo non ex semine tantum David Christus, sed Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis? Nam etsi protoplastus non ex semine, sed tamen protoplastus non est ex Verbi et carnis conjunctione concretus: non est enim Verbum caro factum et habitavit in nobis. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo qui de coelo venit, quae vidit et audiit testificatur, cum constet hominem de coelo, quia ibi nasci non possit, venire non posse? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo visibilia et invisibilia, Throni, Virtutes et Dominationes per ipsum et in ipso creata esse referuntur, cum Virtutes coelestes per hominem fieri non potuerint, quae ante hominem ipsum esse debuerint? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo adest ubique invocatus cum haec hominis natura non sit, sed Dei, ut adesse omni loco possit? Si homo tantummodo Christus, cur homo in orationibus Mediator invocatur, cum invocatio hominis ad praestandam salutem inefficax judicetur? Si homo tantummodo Christus, cur spes in illum ponitur, cum spes in homine maledicta referatur? Si homo tantummodo Christus, cur non licet Christum sine exitio animae negari, cum in hominem commissum delictum referatur posse dimitti? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo Joannes Baptista testatur et dicit: Qui post me venit, ante me factus est, quia prior me fuit; cum, si homo tantummodo Christus, post Joannem natus, ante Joannem esse non possit, nisi quoniam illum, qua Deus est, ante praecessit? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo quae Pater facit, et Filius facit similiter, cum homo coelestibus operibus Dei similia opera facere non possit? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo sicut Pater in se vitam habet, ita dedit Filio vitam habere in semetipso: cum exemplo Patris Dei homo in se vitam habere non possit, cum non in aeternitate sit gloriosus, sed in materia mortalitatis effectus? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo refert: Ego sum panis vitae aeternae qui de coelo descendi; cum neque panis vitae homo esse possit, ipse mortalis, nec de coelo descenderit, nulla in coelo constituta materia fragilitatis? Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo dicit, quia Patrem Deum nemo vidit unquam, nisi qui est a Deo, hic vidit Deum? Quoniam, si homo tantummodo Christus, Deum videre non potuit, quia Deum nemo hominum vidit: si autem dum ex Deo est, Deum vidit, plus se quam hominem, dum Deum vidit, intelligi voluit. Si homo tantummodo Christus, cur dicit: Quid, si videritis Filium hominis ascendentem illuc ubi ante erat? Ascendit autem in coelum: ibi ergo fuit, dum illuc redit ubi prius fuit. Quod si de coelo missus a Patre est, non utique homo tantum est: homo enim, ut diximus, de coelo venire non potuit. Non igitur ibi ante homo fuit, sed illuc ascendit ubi non fuit. Descendit autem Dei Verbum, quod ibi fuit. Verbum, inquam, Dei et Deus per quem facta sunt omnia, et sine quo factum est nihil. Non igitur homo inde sic de coelis venit; sed Dei Sermo, id est Deus, inde descendit.

And yet the heretic still hesitates to say that Christ is God, though he sees him proved God by so many facts and sayings. If Christ is only man, how did he, coming into this world, come to his own, when a man made no world? If Christ is only man, how is the world reported to have been made through him, when it is reported that the world was not made through man, but man was established after the world? If Christ is only man, how is Christ not only from the seed of David, but the Word became flesh and dwelt in us? For although the first-formed man was not from seed either, yet the first-formed man was not compounded from the union of the Word and flesh: for he is not the Word become flesh and dwelling in us. If Christ is only man, how does he who came from heaven testify to what he has seen and heard, when it is agreed that man cannot come from heaven, since he cannot be born there? If Christ is only man, how are things visible and invisible, Thrones, Virtues, and Dominions, reported to have been created through him and in him, when the heavenly Virtues could not have been made through a man, since they must have existed before man himself? If Christ is only man, how is he present everywhere when called upon, when this is not the nature of man but of God, to be able to be present in every place? If Christ is only man, why is a man invoked in prayers as Mediator, when the invocation of a man is judged ineffective for granting salvation? If Christ is only man, why is hope placed in him, when hope in man is declared accursed? If Christ is only man, why may Christ not be denied without the destruction of the soul, when it is declared that a sin committed against a man can be forgiven?

If Christ is only man, how does John the Baptist testify and say, “He who comes after me has been set before me, because he was before me”? For if Christ is only man, born after John, he could not be before John, unless he preceded him in that he is God. If Christ is only man, how is it that whatever the Father does, the Son also does likewise, when man cannot do works like the heavenly works of God? If Christ is only man, how is it that as the Father has life in himself, so he has given to the Son to have life in himself? For after the example of God the Father a man cannot have life in himself, since he is not glorious in eternity, but has been made in the material of mortality. If Christ is only man, how does he say, “I am the bread of eternal life, who came down from heaven”, when a man, himself mortal, can neither be the bread of life, nor have come down from heaven, since no material of frailty was established in heaven? If Christ is only man, how does he say that no one has ever seen God the Father except him who is from God; he has seen God? For if Christ is only man, he could not have seen God, because no one among men has seen God; but if, being from God, he saw God, he wished to be understood as more than man, since he saw God. If Christ is only man, why does he say, “What if you should see the Son of man ascending where he was before?” Now he ascended into heaven; he was therefore there, since he returns to where he was before. And if he was sent from heaven by the Father, he is certainly not only man: for man, as we have said, could not come from heaven. It was not, then, as man that he was there before; but he ascended to where he had not been. But the Word of God, which was there, came down: the Word, I say, of God, and God, through whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. It was not, then, as man that he came thus from heaven; but the Word of God, that is, God, came down from there.

John 1:11 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:10 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:31 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:32 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 18:20 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Jer 17:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 10:33 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:32 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:51 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:46 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:62 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: A series of questions shows that a mere man could not have made the world, come from heaven, be present everywhere when called upon, be the object of hope, precede John the Baptist, or give life as the Father does.

  • The allusions and quotations are John 1:11, 10, 14; John 3:31–32; Col 1:16; Matt 18:20; 1 Tim 2:5; 1 Tim 1:1; Jer 17:5; Matt 10:33 and 12:31–32; John 1:15; John 5:19; John 5:26; John 6:51; John 6:46; John 6:62; John 1:3. Novatian argues from the practice of prayer to Christ (“invoked in prayers as Mediator”) as evidence of his divinity.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: broken word; OCR: dot for comma; OCR: letter dropped; OCR: o for e; OCR: u for o; OCR: uncertain character; stray semicolon): tantummo lo → tantummodo; N(??)m etsi → Nam etsi; Christus· quomodo → Christus, quomodo; Virutes → Virtutes; factus est;, quia → factus est, quia; Si humo → Si homo; illuc rodit → illuc redit.

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Prayer

Cite (SBL): Novatian, Trin. 14 (PL 3:936b–938b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/novatian-trinitate/14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 15

15PL 3:938b–942a

Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo ait: Etsi ego de me testificor, verum est testimonium meum, quia scio unde venerim et quo eam: vos ignoratis unde venerim aut quo eam: vos secundum carnem judicatis. Ecce et hic illuc se dicit rediturum, unde se testificatur ante venisse, missum scilicet de coelo. Descendit ergo unde venit, quomodo illuc vadit unde descendit. Ex quo, si homo tantummodo Christus esset, non inde venisset; atque ideo nec illuc abiret, quoniam non inde venisset. Veniendo autem inde, unde homo venire non potest, Deum se ostendit venisse. Sed enim hujus ipsius descensionis ignari et imperiti Judaei, haeredes sibi haereticos istos reddiderunt, quibus dicitur: Vos ignoratis unde veniam, et quo eam: vos secundum carnem judicatis. Tam isti quam Judaei carnalem solam esse Christi nativitatem tenentes, nihil aliud Christum esse quam hominem crediderunt, non considerantes illud, quoniam cum de coelo homo non potuerit venire, ut merito illuc posset redire, Deum esse qui inde descenderit, unde homo venire non potuerit. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo dicit: Vos ex inferioribus estis, ego desursum sum; vos de hoc mundo estis, ego non sum de hoc mundo? Ideo autem si omnis homo ex hoc mundo est, et ideo in hoc mundo est Christus, an homo tantummodo est? Absit. Sed considera quod ait: Ego non sum de hoc mundo. Numquid ergo mentitur, cum ex hoc mundo ait, si homo tantummodo sit? Aut si non mentitur, non est ex hoc mundo. Non ergo homo tantummodo est, quia ex hoc mundo non est. Sed ne lateret quis esset, expressit unde esset: Ego, inquit, desursum sum; hoc est, de coelo, unde homo venire non potest; non enim in coelo factus est. Deus est ergo qui desursum est, et idcirco de hoc mundo non est: quanquam etiam quodammodo ex hoc mundo est; unde non Deus tantum est Christus, sed et homo. Ut merito, quomodo non est ex hoc mundo secundum Verbi divinitatem, ita ex hoc mundo sit secundum suscepti corporis fragilitatem: Homo est enim cum Deo junctus, et Deus cum homine copulatus. Sed idcirco nunc hic Christus in unam partem solius divinitatis incubuit, quoniam caecitas Judaica solam in Christo partem carnis aspexit, et inde in praesenti loco, silentio praeterita corporis fragilitate quae de mundo est, de sua sola divinitate locutus est quae de mundo non est: ut in quantum illi inclinaverant, ut hominem illum tantummodo crederent, in tantum illos Christus posset ad divinitatem suam considerandam trahere, ut se Deum crederent; volens illorum incredulitatem circa divinitatem suam, omissa interim commemoratione sortis humanae, solius divinitatis oppositione superare. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo dicit: Ego ex Deo prodii et veni, cum constet hominem a Deo factum esse, non ex Deo processisse? ex Deo autem homo quomodo non processit, sic Dei Verbum processit; de quo dictum est: Eructavit cor meum Verbum bonum. Quod quoniam ex Deo est, merito et apud Deum est. Quodque, quia non otiose prolatum est, merito omnia facit. Omnia enim per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil. Sed enim hoc Verbum per quod facta sunt omnia [Deus est]. Et Deus, inquit, erat Verbum. Deus ergo processit ex Deo, dum qui processit Sermo, Deus est qui processit ex Deo. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo ait: Si quis verbum meum servaverit, mortem non videbit in aeternum? Mortem in aeternum non videre, quid aliud quam immortalitas est? Immortalitas autem divinitati socia est, quia et Divinitas immortalis est, et immortalitas divinitatis fructus est. Sed enim omnis homo mortalis est; immortalitas autem ex mortali non potest esse. Ergo ex Christo homine mortali immortalitas non potest nasci. Sed Qui verbum custodierit, inquit, meum, mortem non videbit in aeternum. Ergo verbum Christi praestat immortalitatem, et per immortalitatem divinitatem. Quod si non potest exhibere, ut immortalem alterum faciat ipse mortalis, hoc autem Christi verbum exhibet pariter et praestat immortalitatem: non utique homo tantum est, qui praestat immortalitatem; quam, si tantummodo homo esset, praestare non posset: praestando autem divinitatem per immortalitatem, Deum se probat divinitatem porrigendo, quam nisi Deus esset, praestare non posset. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo inquit: Ante Abraham ego sum? Nemo enim hominum ante eum potest esse ex quo ipse est; nec potest fieri ut quisquam prius fuerit ante illum ex quo ipse originem sumpsit. Sed enim Christus, cum ex Abraham sit, ante Abraham esse se dicit. Aut mentitur igitur et fallit si ante Abraham non fuit, qui ex Abraham fuit: aut non fallit si etiam Deus est, dum ante Abraham fuit. Quod nisi fuisset, consequenter cum ex Abraham fuisset, ante Abraham esse non posset. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo ait: Et ego agnosco eas et sequuntur me meae; et ego vitam aeternam do illis; et nunquam peribunt in perpetuum? Sed enim cum omnis homo mortalitatis sit legibus alligatus, et idcirco in perpetuum se ipse servare non possit, multo magis in perpetuum alterum servare non poterit. At in perpetuum se Christus repromittit salutem daturum; quam si non dat, mendax est: si dat, Deus est. Sed non fallit: dat enim quod repromittit: Deus est ergo, qui salutem perpetuam porrigit; quam homo, qui se ipsum servare non potest, alteri praestare non poterit. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quid est, quod ait: Ego et Pater unum sumus? Quomodo enim Ego et Pater unum sumus, si non et Deus est et Filius? qui idcirco unum potest dici dum ex ipso est, et dum Filius ejus est, et dum ex ipso nascitur, dum ex ipso processisse reperitur, per quod et Deus est. Quod cum invidiosum Judaei putassent, et blasphemum credidissent, eo quod se ostenderat his sermonibus Christum esse Deum, ac propterea ad lapides concurrissent, et saxorum ictus injicere gestiissent; exemplo et testimonio Scripturarum adversarios suos fortiter refutavit. Si illos, inquit, dixit deos ad quos Dei verba facta sunt et non potest solvi Scriptura; quem Pater sancti sanctificavit et misit in hunc mundum, vos dicitis, quia blasphemas, quia dixi, Filius Dei sum ego. Quibus vocibus neque se negavit Deum, quin imo Deum se esse firmavit. Nam quia sine dubitatione dii esse dicuntur, ad quos verba Dei facta sunt, multo magis hic Deus, qui melior illis omnibus invenitur. Et nihilominus calumniosam blasphemiam dispositione legitima congruenter refutavit: Deum enim se sic intelligi vult, ut Filium Dei, et non ipsum Patrem vellet intelligi. Missum enim se esse dixit, et multa opera se ex Patre ostendisse monstravit; ex quo non Patrem se, sed Filium esse intelligi voluit; et in ultima parte defensionis Filii, non Patris, fecit mentionem dicendo: Vos dicitis, quia blasphemas, quia dixi: Filius Dei sum. Ita quod ad crimen blasphemiae pertinet, Filium se, non Patrem dicit: quod autem ad divinitatem spectet ipsius, Ego et Pater unum sumus dicendo, Filium se esse et Deum probavit: Deus est ergo: Deus autem sic, ut Filius sit, non Pater.

If Christ is only man, how does he say: “Even if I testify about myself, my testimony is true, because I know where I have come from and where I am going; you do not know where I have come from or where I am going; you judge according to the flesh”? See, here too he says that he will return to the place from which he testifies that he came before, sent, that is, from heaven. He came down, then, from where he came, just as he goes to the place from which he came down. Hence, if Christ were only man, he would not have come from there, and therefore would not be going away there either, since he would not have come from there. But by coming from where man cannot come, he showed that he had come as God. But the Jews, ignorant and unskilled regarding this very descent, have made these heretics their heirs, to whom it is said, “You do not know where I come from and where I am going; you judge according to the flesh.” These men, like the Jews, holding that Christ's birth was only fleshly, have believed Christ to be nothing other than a man, not considering this: that since man could not come from heaven so as rightly to be able to return there, he who came down from where man could not come is God.

If Christ is only man, how does he say, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world”? Now if every man is from this world, and Christ is therefore in this world, is he then only man? Far from it. But consider what he says: “I am not of this world.” Does he then lie when he says he is not of this world, if he is only man? Or if he does not lie, he is not of this world. He is not, then, only man, since he is not of this world. But lest it should be hidden who he was, he declared where he was from: “I,” he says, “am from above”; that is, from heaven, from where man cannot come, for he was not made in heaven. He who is from above, then, is God, and therefore is not of this world; although in a certain way he is also of this world, and so Christ is not only God, but also man. So that rightly, just as he is not of this world according to the divinity of the Word, so he is of this world according to the frailty of the body he took up: for he is man joined with God, and God united with man. But Christ here leaned now to one side, that of his divinity alone, because Jewish blindness looked only at the fleshly side in Christ; and so in the present passage, passing over in silence the frailty of the body, which is of the world, he spoke only of his divinity, which is not of the world: so that, as far as they had leaned toward believing him only a man, so far Christ might draw them to consider his divinity, that they might believe him God; wishing, leaving aside for the moment any mention of his human lot, to overcome their unbelief about his divinity by setting his divinity alone against it.

If Christ is only man, how does he say, “I came forth from God and have come”, when it is agreed that man was made by God, not that he proceeded from God? But as man did not proceed from God, so the Word of God did proceed, of whom it was said, “My heart has uttered a good Word.” And since it is from God, rightly it is also with God. And since it was not uttered to no purpose, rightly it makes all things. “For all things were made through him, and without him nothing was made.” But this Word, through whom all things were made, [is God]. “And the Word,” it says, “was God.” God, then, proceeded from God, since the Word who proceeded is God who proceeded from God. If Christ is only man, how does he say, “If anyone keeps my word, he will not see death forever”? What else is not seeing death forever than immortality? And immortality is the companion of divinity, because divinity is immortal and immortality is the fruit of divinity. But every man is mortal, and immortality cannot come from what is mortal. Therefore immortality cannot be born from Christ, if he is a mortal man. But “Whoever keeps my word,” he says, “will not see death forever.” Therefore the word of Christ grants immortality, and through immortality divinity. And if one who is himself mortal cannot make another immortal, but this word of Christ both shows and grants immortality, then surely he who grants immortality is not only man, for if he were only man he could not grant it; but by granting divinity through immortality, he proves himself God by offering divinity, which he could not grant unless he were God.

If Christ is only man, how does he say, “Before Abraham I am”? For no man can exist before him from whom he himself comes; nor can it be that anyone existed before him from whom he took his origin. But Christ, though he is from Abraham, says that he is before Abraham. Either, then, he lies and deceives, if he who was from Abraham did not exist before Abraham; or he does not deceive, if he is also God, since he existed before Abraham. And had he not been so, then, since he was from Abraham, he could not have been before Abraham. If Christ is only man, how does he say, “And I know them, and my own follow me; and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish forever”? But since every man is bound by the laws of mortality, and therefore cannot preserve himself forever, much less will he be able to preserve another forever. Yet Christ promises that he will give salvation forever; if he does not give it, he is a liar; if he gives it, he is God. But he does not deceive, for he gives what he promises. He is God, then, who offers everlasting salvation, which a man, who cannot preserve himself, will not be able to grant to another.

If Christ is only man, what does he mean by saying, “I and the Father are one”? For how are “I and the Father one”, unless he is both God and the Son? He can be called one with him because he is from him, and because he is his Son, and because he is born from him, since he is found to have proceeded from him, by which he is also God. When the Jews thought this offensive and believed it blasphemous, because by these words he had shown that he, Christ, was God, and therefore had run together for stones and were eager to hurl blows of rocks at him, he boldly refuted his opponents by the example and testimony of the Scriptures. “If,” he says, “he called them gods to whom the words of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken, do you say of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into this world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?” By these words he did not deny that he was God; on the contrary, he affirmed that he was God. For since those to whom the words of God came are without doubt said to be gods, much more is he God who is found better than all of them. And nonetheless he fittingly refuted the slanderous charge of blasphemy by a lawful distinction: for he wished to be understood as God in such a way that he would be understood as the Son of God, and not the Father himself. For he said that he had been sent, and showed that he had displayed many works from the Father; by which he wished to be understood not as the Father but as the Son; and in the last part of his defense he made mention of the Son, not the Father, saying, “You say, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” So as far as the charge of blasphemy is concerned, he says he is the Son, not the Father; but as far as concerns his divinity, by saying, “I and the Father are one”, he proved himself to be the Son and God. He is God, then; but God in such a way that he is the Son, not the Father.

John 8:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:42 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:28 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:51 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:58 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:31 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:35 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:36 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 82:6 (81:6 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ's sayings that he came from above, proceeded from God, gives immortality, existed before Abraham, and is one with the Father prove him God, yet the Son and not the Father.

  • The quotations are John 8:14–15; John 8:23; John 8:42 (cf. 16:28); Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.); John 1:1–3; John 8:51; John 8:58; John 10:27–28; John 10:30; John 10:34–36 (citing Ps 82:6). “[Is God]” is in brackets in the edition, which supplies the words. “Whom the Father sanctified” renders “quem Pater sancti sanctificavit”, where “sancti” appears to be a dittography. Against the adoptionists and against Sabellius together, Novatian insists that Christ is God, but God as Son, not as the Father.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference; OCR: P for D; OCR: a for u; OCR: b for h; OCR: i for l; OCR: l for t; OCR: letter lost; OCR: period for comma; OCR: uncertain character; OCR: words run together; stray period): redituram → rediturum; judicatis (Ibid.). → judicatis.; hocmundo. Numquidergo → hoc mundo. Numquid ergo; ilii inclinaverant → illi inclinaverant; quon(??)am → quoniam; divin tatem → divinitatem; ex Abrabam fuisset → ex Abraham fuisset; a(??)ternam → aeternam; Peus est ergo → Deus est ergo; inlelligi vult → intelligi vult; vellet inlelligi → vellet intelligi; non Patrem se. sed → non Patrem se, sed; defensionis. Filii → defensionis Filii; pertinet. Filium → pertinet, Filium; ipsius. Ego → ipsius, Ego; sit. non Pater → sit, non Pater.

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Novatian, Trin. 15 (PL 3:938b–942a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/novatian-trinitate/15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 16

16PL 3:942a–944c

Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo ipse dicit: Et omnis qui vivit et credit in me non morietur in aeternum? Sed enim qui in hominem solitarium credit et nudum, maledictus dicitur: hic autem, qui credit in Christum non maledictus, sed in aeternum non moriturus refertur. Ex quo, si aut homo est tantum, ut haeretici volunt, quomodo quisquis in eum credit, non morietur in aeternum, cum maledictus esse teneatur qui confidit in homine? Aut si non maledictus, sed potius ad aeternae vitae consecutionem, ut legitur, destinatus, non homo tantummodo Christus, sed et Deus: in quem qui credit, et maledictionis periculum deponit, et ad fructum justitiae accedit. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo Paraclitum dicit de suo esse sumpturum quae nuntiaturus sit? Neque enim Paraclitus ab homine quidquam accipit, sed homini scientiam Paraclitus porrigit, nec futura ab homine Paraclitus discit, sed de futuris hominem Paraclitus instruit. Ergo aut non accepit Paraclitus a Christo homine quod nuntiet, quoniam Paraclito homo nihil poterit dare a quo ipse homo debet accipere; et fallit in praesenti loco Christus et decipit, cum Paraclitum a se homine accepturum quae nuntiet dicit; aut non nos fallit, sicut nec fallit, et accepit Paraclitus a Christo quae nuntiet. Sed si a Christo accepit quae nuntiet, major ergo jam Paraclito Christus est: quoniam nec Paraclitus a Christo acciperet, nisi minor Christo esset. Minor autem Christo Paraclitus Christum etiam Deum esse hoc ipso probat, a quo accepit quae nuntiat; ut testimonium Christi divinitatis grande sit, dum minor Christo Paraclitus repertus, ab illo sumit quae caeteris tradit. Quandoquidem si homo tantummodo Christus, a Paraclito Christus acciperet quae diceret, non a Christo Paraclitus acciperet quae nuntiaret. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quare credendi nobis talem regulam posuit quo diceret: Haec est autem vita aeterna ut sciant te unum et verum Deum, et quem misisti Jesum Christum? Si noluisset se etiam Deum intelligi, cur addidit: Et quem misisti Jesum Christum, nisi quoniam et Deum accipi voluit? Quoniam si se Deum nollet intelligi, addidisset: Et quem misisti hominem Jesum Christum: nunc autem neque addidit, nec se hominem, nobis tantummodo Christus tradidit, sed Deo junxit, ut et Deum per hanc conjunctionem, sicut est, intelligi vellet. Est ergo credendum, secundum praescriptam regulam, in Dominum, unum verum Deum, et in eum quem misit Jesum Christum consequenter, qui se nequaquam Patri, ut diximus, junxisset, nisi Deum quoque intelligi vellet; separasset enim ab eo, si Deum intelligi se noluisset: inter homines enim tantummodo se collocasset, si hominem se esse tantummodo sciret; nec cum Deo junxisset, si se non et Deum nosset: nunc et de homine tacet, quoniam hominem illum nemo dubitat; et Deo se jungit merito, ut credituris divinitatis suae formulam poneret. Si homo tantummodo Christus, quomodo dicit: Et nunc honorifica me gloria quam habebam apud te priusquam mundus esset? Si antequam mundus esset, gloriam habuit apud Deum, et claritatem tenuit apud Patrem, ante mundum fuit: nec enim habuisset gloriam, nisi ipse prius fuisset, qui gloriam posset tenere. Nemo enim habere aliquid poterit, nisi ante ipse fuerit, qui aliquid tenet. Sed enim Christus habet gloriam ante mundi institutionem; ergo ante institutionem mundi fuit. Nisi enim ante institutionem mundi esset, ante mundi institutionem gloriam habere non posset, cum ipse non esset. Sed enim homo gloriam ante mundi institutionem habere non potuit, qui post mundum fuit: Christus autem habuit: ante mundum igitur fuit: non igitur homo tantummodo fuit, qui ante mundum fuit: Deus est igitur, quoniam ante mundum fuit, et gloriam ante mundum tenuit. Nec praedestinatio ista dicatur, quoniam nec posita est; aut addant hoc qui hoc putant: sed vae est adjicientibus, quomodo et detrahentibus, positum: non potest ergo dici quod non potest adjici. Sublata ergo praedestinatione quae non est posita, in substantia fuit Christus ante mundi institutionem. Verbum est enim per quod facta sunt omnia, et sine quo factum est nihil. Quoniam et si in praedestinatione dicitur gloriosus, et ante mundi institutionem fuisse praedestinationem, ordo servetur, et ante hunc erit multus numerus hominum in gloriam destinatus. Minor enim per istam destinationem Christus caeteris intelligetur, quibus posterior denotatur. Nam si haec gloria in praedestinatione fuit, praedestinationem istam in gloriam novissimus Christus accepit: ante enim praedestinatus Adam esse cernetur, et Abel, et Enoch, et Noe, et Abraham, et reliqui caeteri. Nam cum apud Deum et personarum et rerum omnium ordo digestus sit, ante hanc praedestinationem Christi in gloriam multi praedestinati fuisse dicentur. Et hoc pacto minor caeteris hominibus Christus esse deprehenditur, qui melior et major et antiquior ipsis quoque Angelis invenitur. Aut haec igitur omnia tollantur, ut Christo divinitas auferatur: aut si haec tolli non possunt, Christo ab haereticis divinitas propria reddatur.

If Christ is only man, how does he himself say, “And everyone who lives and believes in me will not die forever”? But one who believes in a solitary and bare man is said to be accursed; whereas here one who believes in Christ is declared not accursed, but never to die. Hence, if he is only man, as the heretics would have it, how will whoever believes in him not die forever, since he who trusts in man is held to be accursed? Or if he is not accursed, but rather destined, as we read, to the attainment of eternal life, then Christ is not only man but also God: whoever believes in him both lays down the danger of the curse and comes to the fruit of righteousness.

If Christ is only man, how does he say that the Paraclete will take from what is his the things he is to announce? For the Paraclete does not receive anything from man; rather the Paraclete offers knowledge to man. Nor does the Paraclete learn things to come from man; rather the Paraclete instructs man about things to come. Therefore, either the Paraclete did not receive from Christ, a man, what he announces, since a man can give nothing to the Paraclete, from whom man himself must receive; and in this place Christ is deceiving and misleading when he says that the Paraclete will receive from him, a man, the things he will announce: or he does not deceive us, as indeed he does not deceive, and the Paraclete received from Christ what he announces. But if he received from Christ what he announces, then Christ is greater than the Paraclete, since the Paraclete would not receive from Christ unless he were less than Christ. And the Paraclete, being less than Christ, proves by this very fact that Christ, from whom he received what he announces, is also God; so that the testimony to Christ's divinity is great, since the Paraclete, found to be less than Christ, takes from him what he hands on to the rest. For if Christ were only man, Christ would receive from the Paraclete what he was to say, not the Paraclete from Christ what he was to announce.

If Christ is only man, why did he lay down for us such a rule of believing as to say, “And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the one and true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent”? If he had not wished to be understood as God too, why did he add, “and Jesus Christ whom you have sent”, unless he wished to be received as God as well? For if he did not wish to be understood as God, he would have added, “and the man Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” But as it is, he did not add it, and Christ did not present himself to us as man only, but joined himself to God, so that through this conjunction he might wish to be understood as God also, as he is. We must therefore believe, according to the rule laid down, in the Lord, the one true God, and consequently in him whom he sent, Jesus Christ, who would never, as we have said, have joined himself to the Father unless he wished to be understood as God too; for he would have separated himself from him if he had not wished to be understood as God. For he would have placed himself only among men, if he knew himself to be only man; and he would not have joined himself with God if he did not know himself to be God as well. As it is, he is silent about the man, since no one doubts that he is man; and he rightly joins himself to God, in order to lay down for those who would believe the formula of his divinity.

If Christ is only man, how does he say, “And now honor me with the glory which I had with you before the world was”? If before the world was he had glory with God and held glory with the Father, he existed before the world; for he would not have had glory unless he himself, who could hold glory, had existed first. For no one can have anything unless he who holds something has himself existed before. But Christ has glory before the founding of the world; therefore he existed before the founding of the world. For unless he had existed before the founding of the world, he could not have had glory before the founding of the world, since he himself would not have existed. But a man, who came after the world, could not have had glory before the founding of the world; yet Christ had it; therefore he existed before the world. He was not, then, only man, who existed before the world: he is therefore God, since he existed before the world and held glory before the world. Nor let this be said to be predestination, since it is not written; or let those who think so add it. But woe is written to those who add, as also to those who take away; so what cannot be added cannot be said. Predestination, then, which is not written, being set aside, Christ existed in substance before the founding of the world. For he is the Word through whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. For even if he is said to be glorious in predestination, and the predestination existed before the founding of the world, then let order be kept, and a great number of men will be destined to glory before him. For by that destination Christ will be understood to be less than the others, since he is marked as later than they. For if this glory was in predestination, Christ received this predestination to glory last of all: for Adam will be seen to have been predestined before him, and Abel, and Enoch, and Noah, and Abraham, and all the rest. For since with God the order of all persons and things has been arranged, many will be said to have been predestined before this predestination of Christ to glory. And on this reckoning Christ, who is found to be better and greater and older even than the angels themselves, is detected to be less than other men. Either, then, let all these things be taken away, so that divinity may be taken from Christ; or, if these things cannot be taken away, let the heretics give back to Christ his own divinity.

John 11:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 22:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 22:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 1:4 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ's promises of eternal life to believers, the Paraclete's receiving from him, his joining himself to the Father as object of faith, and his glory before the world prove him God, not a mere man or only predestined.

  • The quotations and allusions are John 11:26; Jer 17:5; John 16:14; John 17:3; John 17:5; Rev 22:18–19; John 1:3; Heb 1:4. The adoptionists evidently read John 17:5 as glory Christ had only “in predestination”; Novatian replies that Scripture does not say so. His argument that the Paraclete, receiving from Christ, is “less than Christ” reflects the subordinationist language common before Nicaea; it is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: b for h; OCR: c for e; OCR: dot for period; OCR: i for t; OCR: split word; stray comma): maledicius → maledictus; quoniam nec, Paraclitus → quoniam nec Paraclitus; ab co, si → ab eo, si; non esset· Sed → non esset. Sed; detrabentibus → detrahentibus; aufer atur → auferatur.

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy, Election and predestination

Cite (SBL): Novatian, Trin. 16 (PL 3:942a–944c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/novatian-trinitate/16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 17

17PL 3:944c–946b

Quid si Moyses hanc eamdem regulam veritatis exsequitur, et hoc in principio suarum nobis tradidit Litterarum, quo discamus omnia creata et condita esse per Dei Filium, hoc est per Dei Verbum? Id enim dicit quod Joannes, quod caeteri; imo et Joannes et caeteri ab hoc intelliguntur accepisse quod dicant. Si enim Joannes dicit: Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil; Prophetes autem refert: Dico ego opera mea Regi; Moyses autem introducit praecipientem Deum ut lux fiat in primis, coelum firmetur, aquae congregentur, arida ostendatur, fructus secundum semina provocetur, animalia producantur, luminaria in coelo atque astra ponantur; non alium ostendit tunc adfuisse Deo cui praeciperentur haec opera ut fierent, nisi eum per quem facta sunt omnia, et sine quo factum est nihil. Ac si hic Verbum Dei est, nam eructavit cor meum verbum bonum, ostendit in principio Verbum fuisse, et Verbum hoc apud Patrem fuisse, Deum praeterea Verbum fuisse, omnia per ipsum facta esse. Sed enim hoc Verbum caro factum est, et habitavit in nobis, Christus scilicet Filius Dei; quem, dum et postmodum secundum carnem hominem accipimus, et ante mundi institutionem Dei Verbum et Deum videmus, merito secundum institutionem Veteris et Novi Testamenti, et Deum et hominem Christum Jesum et credimus et tenemus. Quid si idem Moyses introducit dicentem Deum: Faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram: et infra, Et fecit Deus hominem, ad imaginem Dei fecit illum, masculum et feminam fecit eos? Si, ut jam docuimus, Dei Filius est per quem facta sunt omnia, utique Dei Filius est per quem etiam homo institutus est, propter quem facta sunt omnia. Sed enim Deo praecipiente ut homo fiat, Deus refertur esse qui hominem facit: facit autem hominem Dei Filius, Verbum scilicet Dei, per quem facta sunt omnia, et sine quo factum est nihil. Hoc autem Verbum caro factum est, et habitavit in nobis: ergo Christus est Deus. Per Christum igitur homo factus est, ut per Dei Filium. Sed Deus hominem ad imaginem Dei fecit; Deus est ergo qui fecit hominem ad imaginem Dei, Deus ergo Christus est: ut merito nec Veteris Testamenti circa personam Christi vacillet auctoritas, dum Novi Testamenti manifestatione fulcitur, nec Novi Testamenti intercepta sit potestas, dum radicibus Veteris Testamenti ejusdem nititur veritas. Ex quo, qui Christum, Dei Filium et hominis, tantummodo praesumunt hominem, non et Deum, contra Testamentum et Vetus et Novum faciunt, dum et Veteris et Novi Testamenti auctoritatem veritatemque corrumpunt. Quid si idem Moyses ubique introducit Deum Patrem immensum atque sine fine, non qui loco cludatur, sed qui omnem locum claudat: nec eum qui in loco sit, sed potius in quo omnis locus sit: omnia continentem et cuncta complexum, ut merito nec descendat nec ascendat, quoniam ipse omnia et continet et implet: et tamen nihilominus introducit Deum descendentem ad turrem quam aedificabant filii hominum considerare quaerentem, et dicentem: Venite; et mox: Descendamus, et confundamus illic ipsorum linguas, ut non audiat unusquisque vocem proximi sui? Quem volunt hic Deum descendisse ad turrem illam, et homines tunc Illos visitare quaerentem? Deum Patrem? Ergo jam loco clauditur: et quomodo ipse omnia complectitur? Aut numquid Angelum cum Angelis dicit descendentem, et dicentem: Venite; et mox: Descendamus et confundamus illic ipsorum linguas? Sed enim in Deuteronomio animadvertimus retulisse Deum haec. Deumque dixisse, ubi ponitur: Cum disseminaret filios Adam, statuit fines gentium juxta numerum angelorum Dei. Neque ergo Pater descendit, ut res indicat; neque Angelus ista praecipit, ut res probat. Superest ergo, ut ille descenderit, de quo apostolus Paulus: Qui descendit, ipse est qui ascendit super omnes coelos, ut impleret omnia, hoc est Dei Filius, Dei Verbum. Verbum autem Dei caro factum est, et habitavit in nobis: hic erit Christus: Deus ergo pronuntiabitur Christus.

What if Moses follows this same rule of truth, and has handed it down to us at the beginning of his writings, so that we may learn that all things were created and founded through the Son of God, that is, through the Word of God? For he says what John says, what the others say; indeed, John and the others are understood to have received from him what they say. For if John says, “All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made”; and the prophet declares, “I speak my works to the King”; and Moses presents God commanding first that light be made, the heaven made firm, the waters gathered, the dry land shown, fruit called forth according to its seeds, living creatures produced, lights and stars set in the heaven: he shows that no other was then present with God, to whom these works were commanded to be done, than he through whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. And if this is the Word of God (for “my heart has uttered a good word”), he shows that the Word was in the beginning, and that this Word was with the Father, and moreover that the Word was God, and that all things were made through him. But this Word became flesh and dwelt in us, namely Christ, the Son of God; and since we both receive him afterwards as man according to the flesh, and see him before the founding of the world as the Word of God and God, we rightly, according to the ordering of the Old and New Testaments, both believe and hold Christ Jesus to be God and man.

What if the same Moses presents God saying, “Let us make man to our image and likeness”, and below, “And God made man; to the image of God he made him; male and female he made them”? If, as we have already shown, it is the Son of God through whom all things were made, surely it is the Son of God through whom man also was established, for whose sake all things were made. But when God commands that man be made, it is God who is reported to make man; and the Son of God makes man, namely the Word of God, through whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. And this Word became flesh and dwelt in us: therefore Christ is God. Man, then, was made through Christ, as through the Son of God. But God made man to the image of God; he who made man to the image of God is therefore God; Christ therefore is God. So that rightly the authority of the Old Testament does not waver concerning the person of Christ, since it is propped up by the manifestation of the New Testament; nor is the power of the New Testament cut off, since its truth rests on the roots of the Old Testament. Hence those who presume Christ, the Son of God and of man, to be only man and not also God act against the Testament both Old and New, since they corrupt the authority and truth of both the Old and New Testaments.

What if the same Moses everywhere presents God the Father as immeasurable and without end, not one who is enclosed by place, but one who encloses every place; not one who is in a place, but rather in whom every place is; containing all things and embracing all, so that rightly he neither comes down nor goes up, since he himself both contains and fills all things; and yet nonetheless he presents God coming down to the tower that the sons of men were building, seeking to look at it, and saying, “Come”; and then, “Let us go down and confound their tongues there, so that each may not hear the voice of his neighbor”? Whom do they suppose to have come down here to that tower, seeking then to visit those men? God the Father? Then he is now enclosed by place; and how does he himself embrace all things? Or does he mean that an angel came down with angels, saying, “Come”, and then, “Let us go down and confound their tongues there”? But in Deuteronomy we observe that these things are reported of God, and that God said them, where it is written: “When he scattered the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the nations according to the number of the angels of God.” Neither, then, did the Father come down, as the matter shows; nor did an angel command these things, as the facts prove. It remains, then, that he came down of whom the apostle Paul says: “He who came down is the same who ascended above all the heavens, that he might fill all things”, that is, the Son of God, the Word of God. But the Word of God became flesh and dwelt in us: this will be Christ: Christ therefore will be declared God.

Gen 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 11:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 11:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 32:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 4:10 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Moses agrees with John: the Word through whom God created all things, and who made man in God's image and came down at Babel, is the Son, Christ, who is therefore God.

  • The quotations and allusions are Gen 1:3–16; John 1:3; Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.); John 1:1, 14; Gen 1:26–27; Gen 11:5, 7; Deut 32:8 (in the LXX form “according to the number of the angels of God”); Eph 4:10. The point of the Deuteronomy passage seems to be that the dividing of the nations at Babel is ascribed to God himself, not to an angel; the reasoning is compressed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference; OCR: b for h; OCR: misread word (the contrast with 'loco cludatur' requires 'claudat'); OCR: n for u; OCR: period for comma; OCR: u for a; OCR: u for n; OCR: uncertain character; editorial chapter summary (printed as a heading in ANF), not Novatian's text; removed like Migne's Argumentum in ch. 8): Item ex Moyse in principio sacrarum Litteracum. → ; Joanues → Joannes; factu sunt → facta sunt; ponantur (Gen. I); non → ponantur; non; praeciperentnr → praeciperentur; per que(??) facta → per quem facta; bominem → hominem; fulcitur. nec → fulcitur, nec; omnem locum eludat → omnem locum claudat; iu loco → in loco.

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Scripture and canon, The image of God

Cite (SBL): Novatian, Trin. 17 (PL 3:944c–946b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/novatian-trinitate/17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Migne, PL 3 (1865 printing), corrected where the digitization is faulty; made independently of existing English translations.