A Plea for the Christians 16–24

Greek text: Otto, CorpApol 7 (Greek text: J. C. T. Otto, Athenagorae philosophi Atheniensis opera (Corpus apologetarum Christianorum saeculi secundi 7, 1857), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885).

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Chapter 16

16Otto 7:68–74

Καλὸς μὲν γὰρ ὁ κόσμος καὶ τῷ μεγέθει περιέχων καὶ τῇ διαθέσει τῶν τε ἐν τῷ λοξῷ κύκλῳ καὶ τῶν περὶ τὴν ἄρκτον καὶ τῷ σχήματι σφαιρικῷ ὄντι· ἀλλʼ οὐ τοῦτον, ἀλλὰ τὸν τεχνίτην αὐτοῦ προσκυνητέον. Οὐδὲ γὰρ οἱ πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἀφικνούμενοι ὑπήκοοι, παραλιπόντες ὑμᾶς τοὺς ἄρχοντας καὶ δεσπότας θεραπεύειν, παρʼ ὧν ὧν ἂν δέοιντο καὶ τύχοιεν, ἐπὶ τὸ σεμνὸν τῆς καταγωγῆς ὑμῶν καταφεύγουσιν, ἀλλὰ τὴν μὲν βασιλικὴν ἑστίαν τηνάλλως ἐντυχόντες αὐτῇ θαυμάζουσι καλῶς ἠσκημένην, ὑμᾶς δὲ πάντα ἐν πᾶσιν ἄγουσι τῇ δόξῃ. Καὶ ὑμεῖς μὲν οἱ βασιλεῖς ἑαυτοῖς ἀσκεῖτε τὰς καταγωγὰς βασιλικάς, ὁ δὲ κόσμος οὐχ ὡς δεομένου τοῦ θεοῦ γέγονεν· πάντα γὰρ ὁ θεός ἐστιν αὐτὸς αὐτῷ, φῶς ἀπρόσιτον, κόσμος τέλειος, πνεῦμα, δύναμις, λόγος. Εἰ τοίνυν ἐμμελὲς ὁ κόσμος ὄργανον κινούμενον ἐν ῥυθμῷ, τὸν ἁρμοσάμενον καὶ πλήσσοντα τοὺς φθόγγους καὶ τὸ σύμφωνον ἐπᾴδοντα μέλος, οὐ τὸ ὄργανον προσκυνῶ· οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐπὶ τῶν ἀγωνιστῶν, παραλιπόντες οἱ ἀθλοθέται τοὺς κιθαριστάς, τὰς κιθάρας στεφανοῦσιν αὐτῶν. Εἴτε, ὡς ὁ Πλάτων φησί, τέχνη τοῦ θεοῦ, θαυμάζων αὐτοῦ τὸ κάλλος τῷ τεχνίτῃ πρόσειμι· εἴτε οὐσία καὶ σῶμα, ὡς οἱ ἀπὸ τοῦ περιπάτου, οὐ παραλιπόντες προσκυνεῖν τὸν αἴτιον τῆς κινήσεως τοῦ σώματος θεὸν ἐπὶ τὰ πτωχὰ καὶ ἀσθενῆ στοιχεῖα καταπίπτομεν, τῷ ἀπαθεῖ ἀέρι κατʼ αὐτοὺς τὴν παθητὴν ὕλην προσκυνοῦντες· εἴτε δυνάμεις τοῦ θεοῦ τὰ μέρη τοῦ κόσμου νοεῖ τις, οὐ τὰς δυνάμεις προσιόντες θεραπεύομεν, ἀλλὰ τὸν ποιητὴν αὐτῶν καὶ δεσπότην. Οὐκ αἰτῶ τὴν ὕλην ἃ μὴ ἔχει, οὐδὲ παραλιπὼν τὸν θεὸν τὰ στοιχεῖα θεραπεύω, οἷς μηδὲν πλέον ἢ ὅσον ἐκελεύσθησαν ἔξεστιν· εἰ γὰρ καὶ καλὰ ἰδεῖν τῇ τοῦ δημιουργοῦ τέχνῃ, ἀλλʼ αὐτὰ τῇ τῆς ὕλης φύσει. Μαρτυρεῖ δὲ τῷ λόγῳ τούτῳ καὶ Πλάτων· Ὃν γὰρ οὐρανόν, φησί, καὶ κόσμον ἐπωνόμακεν, πολλῶν μὲν μετέσχηκε μακαρίων παρὰ τοῦ πατρός, ἀτὰρ οὖν δὴ κεκοινώνηκε σώματος· ὅθεν αὐτῷ μεταβολῆς ἀμοίρῳ τυγχάνειν ἀδύνατον. Εἰ τοίνυν θαυμάζων τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὰ στοιχεῖα τῆς τέχνης οὐ προσκυνῶ αὐτὰ ὡς θεούς, εἰδὼς τὸν ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς τῆς λύσεως λόγον, ὧν οἶδα ἀνθρώπους δημιουργοὺς πῶς ταῦτα προσείπω θεούς; Σκέψασθε δέ μοι διὰ βραχέων.

Kalos men gar ho kosmos kai tǭ megethei periechōn kai tę̄ diathesei tōn te en tǭ loxǭ kyklǭ kai tōn peri tēn arkton kai tǭ schēmati sphairikǭ onti; allʼ ou touton, alla ton technitēn autou proskynēteon. Oude gar hoi pros hymas aphiknoumenoi hypēkooi, paralipontes hymas tous archontas kai despotas therapeuein, parʼ hōn hōn an deointo kai tychoien, epi to semnon tēs katagōgēs hymōn katapheugousin, alla tēn men basilikēn hestian tēnallōs entychontes autę̄ thaumazousi kalōs ēskēmenēn, hymas de panta en pasin agousi tę̄ doxę̄. Kai hymeis men hoi basileis heautois askeite tas katagōgas basilikas, ho de kosmos ouch hōs deomenou tou theou gegonen; panta gar ho theos estin autos autǭ, phōs aprositon, kosmos teleios, pneuma, dynamis, logos. Ei toinyn emmeles ho kosmos organon kinoumenon en rhythmǭ, ton harmosamenon kai plēssonta tous phthongous kai to symphōnon epądonta melos, ou to organon proskynō; oude gar epi tōn agōnistōn, paralipontes hoi athlothetai tous kitharistas, tas kitharas stephanousin autōn. Eite, hōs ho Platōn phēsi, technē tou theou, thaumazōn autou to kallos tǭ technitę̄ proseimi; eite ousia kai sōma, hōs hoi apo tou peripatou, ou paralipontes proskynein ton aition tēs kinēseōs tou sōmatos theon epi ta ptōcha kai asthenē stoicheia katapiptomen, tǭ apathei aeri katʼ autous tēn pathētēn hylēn proskynountes; eite dynameis tou theou ta merē tou kosmou noei tis, ou tas dynameis prosiontes therapeuomen, alla ton poiētēn autōn kai despotēn. Ouk aitō tēn hylēn ha mē echei, oude paralipōn ton theon ta stoicheia therapeuō, hois mēden pleon ē hoson ekeleusthēsan exestin; ei gar kai kala idein tę̄ tou dēmiourgou technę̄, allʼ auta tę̄ tēs hylēs physei. Martyrei de tǭ logǭ toutǭ kai Platōn; Hon gar ouranon, phēsi, kai kosmon epōnomaken, pollōn men meteschēke makariōn para tou patros, atar oun dē kekoinōnēke sōmatos; hothen autǭ metabolēs amoirǭ tynchanein adynaton. Ei toinyn thaumazōn ton ouranon kai ta stoicheia tēs technēs ou proskynō auta hōs theous, eidōs ton epʼ autois tēs lyseōs logon, hōn oida anthrōpous dēmiourgous pōs tauta proseipō theous? Skepsasthe de moi dia bracheōn.

The world is beautiful: it excels in its size, in the arrangement of the stars in the oblique circle and around the Bear, and in its spherical shape. Yet it is not the world but its Artificer who is to be worshiped. When your subjects come to you, they do not neglect to pay court to you, their rulers and masters, from whom they obtain whatever they need, and take refuge in the magnificence of your residence instead. When they come upon the royal residence they admire its fine decoration in passing, but to you they give glory as all in all. You kings furnish your residences for yourselves; but the world did not come into being because God needed it. For God is himself everything to himself: light unapproachable, a perfect world, spirit, power, Word. If, then, the world is a well-tuned instrument moving in rhythm, I worship the one who tuned it, who strikes its notes and sings the harmonious melody, not the instrument; for at the contests the judges do not pass over the lyre-players and crown their lyres. Whether, as Plato says, the world is God's work of art, I admire its beauty and approach the Artificer; or whether it is substance and body, as the Peripatetics say, we do not neglect to worship God, the cause of the body's motion, and fall down before the poor and weak elements, worshiping passive matter instead of what they call the impassive ether; or whether one takes the parts of the world to be powers of God, we do not approach and serve the powers, but their Maker and Lord. I do not ask of matter what it does not have, nor do I pass over God to serve the elements, which can do nothing beyond what they were commanded; for even if they are beautiful to look at through the art of their Creator, in themselves they have the nature of matter. Plato too bears witness to this argument: “What we call heaven and the world,” he says, “has received many blessings from the Father; yet it shares in a body, and so it cannot be free of change.” If, then, while admiring the heavens and the elements for their workmanship, I do not worship them as gods, knowing that the principle of dissolution is in them, how can I call gods the things whose makers I know to be human beings? Consider this with me briefly.

1 Cor 15:28 (echo, low confidence) · 1 Tim 6:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 4:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 17:25 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The beautiful world is an instrument, not the musician: Christians worship its Maker, not the world or the elements.

  • Plato, Statesman (Politicus) 269d.
  • “Instead of what they call the impassive ether” renders τῷ ἀπαθεῖ ἀέρι κατʼ αὐτούς; the text may be damaged.
  • “The poor and weak elements” echoes Gal 4:9.

Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Pol. 269d (Plato (works); quotation)

Topics: Creation, Worship

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 16 (Otto 7:68–74; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/16).

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Chapter 17

17Otto 7:74–80

Ἀνάγκη δὲ ἀπολογούμενον ἀκριβεστέρους παρέχειν τοὺς λογισμοὺς καὶ περὶ τῶν ὀνομάτων, ὅτι νεώτερα, καὶ περὶ τῶν εἰκόνων, ὅτι χθὲς καὶ πρώην γεγόνασιν, ὡς λόγῳ εἰπεῖν· ἴστε δὲ καὶ ὑμεῖς ταῦτα ἀξιολογώτερον, ὡς ἂν ἐν πᾶσι καὶ ὑπὲρ πάντας τοῖς παλαιοῖς συγγινόμενοι. Φημὶ οὖν Ὀρφέα καὶ Ὅμηρον καὶ Ἡσίοδον εἶναι τοὺς καὶ γένη καὶ ὀνόματα δόντας τοῖς ὑπʼ αὐτῶν λεγομένοις θεοῖς. Μαρτυρεῖ δὲ καὶ Ἡρόδοτος· Ἡσίοδον γὰρ καὶ Ὅμηρον ἡλικίην τετρακοσίοις ἔτεσι δοκέω πρεσβυτέρους ἐμοῦ γενέσθαι, καὶ οὐ πλείοσι· οὗτοι δέ εἰσιν οἱ ποιήσαντες θεογονίην Ἕλλησι, καὶ τοῖσι θεοῖσι τὰς ἐπωνυμίας δόντες καὶ τιμάς τε καὶ τέχνας διελόντες, καὶ εἴδεα αὐτῶν σημήναντες. Αἱ δʼ εἰκόνες, μέχρι μήπω πλαστικὴ καὶ γραφικὴ καὶ ἀνδριαντοποιητικὴ ἦσαν, οὐδὲ ἐνομίζοντο, Σαυρίου δὲ τοῦ Σαμίου καὶ Κράτωνος τοῦ Σικυωνίου καὶ Κλεάνθους τοῦ Κορινθίου καὶ κόρης Κορινθίας ἐπιγενομένων· καὶ σκιαγραφίας μὲν εὑρεθείσης ὑπὸ Σαυρίου, ἵππον ἐν ἡλίῳ περιγράψαντος, γραφικῆς δὲ ὑπὸ Κράτωνος, ἐν πίνακι λελευκωμένῳ σκιὰς ἀνδρὸς καὶ γυναικὸς ἐναλείψαντος· ἀπὸ δὲ τῆς κόρης ἡ κοροπλαθικὴ εὑρέθη· ἐρωτικῶς γάρ τινος ἔχουσα περιέγραψεν αὐτοῦ κοιμωμένου ἐν τοίχῳ τὴν σκιάν, εἶθʼ ὁ πατήρ, ἡσθεὶς ἀπαραλλάκτῳ οὔσῃ τῇ ὁμοιότητι, (κέραμον δὲ εἰργάζετο) ἀναγλύψας τὴν περιγραφὴν πηλῷ προσανεπλήρωσεν· ὁ τύπος ἔτι καὶ νῦν ἐν Κορίνθῳ σώζεται. Τούτοις δὲ ἐπιγενόμενοι Δαίδαλος καὶ Θεόδωρος ὁ Μιλήσιος ἀνδριαντοποιητικὴν καὶ πλαστικὴν προσεξεῦρον. Ὁ μὲν δὴ χρόνος ὀλίγος τοσοῦτος ταῖς εἰκόσι καὶ τῇ περὶ τὰ εἴδωλα πραγματείᾳ, ὡς ἔχειν εἰπεῖν τὸν ἑκάστου τεχνίτην θεοῦ. Τὸ μὲν γὰρ ἐν Ἐφέσῳ τῆς Ἀρτέμιδος καὶ τὸ τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς (μᾶλλον δὲ Ἀθηλᾶς· Ἀθηλᾶ γὰρ ὡς οἱ μυστικώτερον, οὕτω γὰρ τὸ ἀπὸ τῆς ἐλαίας τὸ παλαιὸν) καὶ τὴν καθημένην Ἔνδοιος εἰργάσατο μαθητὴς Δαιδάλου, ὁ δὲ Πύθιος ἔργον Θεοδώρου καὶ Τηλεκλέους, καὶ ὁ Δήλιος καὶ ἡ Ἄρτεμις Τεκταίου καὶ Ἀγγελίωνος τέχνη, ἡ δὲ ἐν Σάμῳ Ἥρα καὶ ἐν Ἄργει Σμίλιδος χεῖρες, καὶ Φειδίου τὰ λοιπὰ εἴδωλα, ἡ Ἀφροδίτη ἐν Κνίδῳ ἑταίρα Πραξιτέλους τέχνη, ὁ ἐν Ἐπιδαύρῳ Ἀσκληπιὸς ἔργον Φειδίου. Συνελόντα φάναι, οὐδὲν αὐτῶν διαπέφευγεν τὸ μὴ ὑπʼ ἀνθρώπου γεγονέναι. Εἰ τοίνυν θεοί, τί οὐκ ἦσαν ἐξ ἀρχῆς; Τί δαί εἰσι νεώτεροι τῶν πεποιηκότων; Τί δαὶ ἔδει αὐτοῖς πρὸς τὸ γενέσθαι ἀνθρώπων καὶ τέχνης; Γῆ ταῦτα καὶ λίθοι καὶ ὕλη καὶ περίεργος τέχνη.

Anankē de apologoumenon akribesterous parechein tous logismous kai peri tōn onomatōn, hoti neōtera, kai peri tōn eikonōn, hoti chthes kai prōēn gegonasin, hōs logǭ eipein; iste de kai hymeis tauta axiologōteron, hōs an en pasi kai hyper pantas tois palaiois synginomenoi. Phēmi oun Orphea kai Homēron kai Hēsiodon einai tous kai genē kai onomata dontas tois hypʼ autōn legomenois theois. Martyrei de kai Hērodotos; Hēsiodon gar kai Homēron hēlikiēn tetrakosiois etesi dokeō presbyterous emou genesthai, kai ou pleiosi; houtoi de eisin hoi poiēsantes theogoniēn Hellēsi, kai toisi theoisi tas epōnymias dontes kai timas te kai technas dielontes, kai eidea autōn sēmēnantes. Hai dʼ eikones, mechri mēpō plastikē kai graphikē kai andriantopoiētikē ēsan, oude enomizonto, Sauriou de tou Samiou kai Kratōnos tou Sikyōniou kai Kleanthous tou Korinthiou kai korēs Korinthias epigenomenōn; kai skiagraphias men heuretheisēs hypo Sauriou, hippon en hēliǭ perigrapsantos, graphikēs de hypo Kratōnos, en pinaki leleukōmenǭ skias andros kai gynaikos enaleipsantos; apo de tēs korēs hē koroplathikē heurethē; erōtikōs gar tinos echousa periegrapsen autou koimōmenou en toichǭ tēn skian, eithʼ ho patēr, hēstheis aparallaktǭ ousę̄ tę̄ homoiotēti, (keramon de eirgazeto) anaglypsas tēn perigraphēn pēlǭ prosaneplērōsen; ho typos eti kai nyn en Korinthǭ sōzetai. Toutois de epigenomenoi Daidalos kai Theodōros ho Milēsios andriantopoiētikēn kai plastikēn prosexeuron. Ho men dē chronos oligos tosoutos tais eikosi kai tę̄ peri ta eidōla pragmateią, hōs echein eipein ton hekastou technitēn theou. To men gar en Ephesǭ tēs Artemidos kai to tēs Athēnas (mallon de Athēlas; Athēla gar hōs hoi mystikōteron, houtō gar to apo tēs elaias to palaion) kai tēn kathēmenēn Endoios eirgasato mathētēs Daidalou, ho de Pythios ergon Theodōrou kai Tēlekleous, kai ho Dēlios kai hē Artemis Tektaiou kai Angeliōnos technē, hē de en Samǭ Hēra kai en Argei Smilidos cheires, kai Pheidiou ta loipa eidōla, hē Aphroditē en Knidǭ hetaira Praxitelous technē, ho en Epidaurǭ Asklēpios ergon Pheidiou. Synelonta phanai, ouden autōn diapepheugen to mē hypʼ anthrōpou gegonenai. Ei toinyn theoi, ti ouk ēsan ex archēs? Ti dai eisi neōteroi tōn pepoiēkotōn? Ti dai edei autois pros to genesthai anthrōpōn kai technēs? Gē tauta kai lithoi kai hylē kai periergos technē.

In making a defense I must give more precise arguments both about the names of the gods, to show that they are recent, and about their images, to show that they came into being yesterday or the day before, so to speak. You yourselves know these things better, since you are in every respect conversant with the ancient writers, more than anyone else. I say, then, that Orpheus, Homer, and Hesiod are the ones who gave genealogies and names to those they call gods. Herodotus too bears witness: “I think that Hesiod and Homer lived four hundred years before my time, and not more; and it was they who made a theogony for the Greeks, gave the gods their titles, distributed their honors and skills, and described their forms.” As for images, they were not even thought of as long as there was no modeling, painting, or sculpture, until Saurias of Samos, Craton of Sicyon, Cleanthes of Corinth, and the Corinthian girl came along. Shadow-drawing was invented by Saurias, who traced the outline of a horse in the sunlight; painting by Craton, who painted the shadows of a man and a woman on a whitened tablet; and modeling in relief was invented by the girl. She was in love with someone, and traced the outline of his shadow on the wall while he slept; then her father, delighted with the exact likeness (he was a potter), cut out the outline and filled it in with clay; the figure is preserved at Corinth to this day. After these came Daedalus and Theodorus of Miletus, who further invented sculpture and modeling. So short is the time since images and the making of idols began that we can name the craftsman of each god. The Artemis at Ephesus, the Athena (or rather Athela, as those who speak more mystically call her, for such was the ancient statue made from the olive), and the seated Athena were made by Endoeus, a pupil of Daedalus; the Pythian Apollo is the work of Theodorus and Telecles; the Delian Apollo and Artemis are the art of Tectaeus and Angelion; the Hera at Samos and the one at Argos are by the hands of Smilis; the other idols are by Phidias; the Aphrodite at Cnidus is another work of Praxiteles's art; the Asclepius at Epidaurus is the work of Phidias. In short, not one of them escapes having been made by a human being. If, then, they are gods, why did they not exist from the beginning? Why are they younger than those who made them? Why did they need human beings and art in order to come into being? They are earth and stones and matter and elaborate art.

Notes and citation

Summary: The names of the gods come from the poets, and their images from recent sculptors whose names are known; such gods are younger than their makers.

  • Herodotus, Histories 2.53.
  • “Another work” follows the obvious sense; the printed text has ἑταίρα (“courtesan”) where ἑτέρα (“another”) is expected. The Cnidian Aphrodite was said to be modeled on the courtesan Phryne, so the word may be a deliberate jibe.

Extrabiblical texts: Herodotus, Hist. 2.53 (Herodotus, Histories; quotation)

Topics: Idolatry, Paganism

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 17 (Otto 7:74–80; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/17).

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Chapter 18

18Otto 7:80–88

Ἐπεὶ τοίνυν φασί τινες εἰκόνας μὲν εἶναι ταύτας, θεοὺς δὲ ἐφʼ οἷς αἱ εἰκόνες, καὶ τὰς προσόδους ἃς ταύταις προσίασι καὶ τὰς θυσίας ἐπʼ ἐκείνους ἀναφέρεσθαι καὶ εἰς ἐκείνους γίνεσθαι, μὴ εἶναί τε ἕτερον τρόπον τοῖς θεοῖς ἢ τοῦτον προσελθεῖν (χαλεποὶ δὲ θεοὶ φαίνεσθαι ἐναργεῖς), καὶ τοῦ ταῦθʼ οὕτως ἔχειν τεκμήρια παρέχουσι τὰς ἐνίων εἰδώλων ἐνεργείας, φέρε ἐξετάσωμεν τὴν ἐπὶ τοῖς ὀνόμασι δύναμιν αὐτῶν. Δεήσομαι δὲ ὑμῶν, μέγιστοι αὐτοκρατόρων, πρὸ τοῦ λόγου ἀληθεῖς παρεχομένῳ τοὺς λογισμοὺς συγγνῶναι· οὐ γὰρ προκείμενόν μοι ἐλέγχειν τὰ εἴδωλα, ἀλλὰ ἀπολυόμενος τὰς διαβολὰς λογισμὸν τῆς προαιρέσεως ἡμῶν παρέχω. Ἔχοιτε ἀφʼ ἑαυτῶν καὶ τὴν ἐπουράνιον βασιλείαν ἐξετάζειν· ὡς γὰρ ὑμῖν πατρὶ καὶ υἱῷ πάντα κεχείρωται, ἄνωθεν τὴν βασιλείαν εἰληφόσι (βασιλέως γὰρ ψυχὴ ἐν χειρὶ θεοῦ, φησὶ τὸ προφητικὸν πνεῦμα), οὕτως ἑνὶ τῷ θεῷ καὶ τῷ παρʼ αὐτοῦ λόγῳ υἱῷ νοουμένῳ ἀμερίστῳ πάντα ὑποτέτακται. Ἐκεῖνο τοίνυν σκέψασθέ μοι πρὸ τῶν ἄλλων. Οὐκ ἐξ ἀρχῆς, ὥς φασιν, ἦσαν οἱ θεοί, ἀλλʼ οὕτως γέγονεν αὐτῶν ἕκαστος ὡς γινόμεθα ἡμεῖς. Καὶ τοῦτο πᾶσιν αὐτοῖς ξυμφωνεῖ· Ὁμήρου μὲν γὰρ λέγοντος· Ὠκεανόν τε, θεῶν γένεσιν, καὶ μητέρα Τηθύν, Ὀρφέως δὲ (ὃς καὶ τὰ ὀνόματα αὐτῶν πρῶτος ἐξεῦρε καὶ τὰς γενέσεις διεξῆλθε καὶ ὅσα ἑκάστοις πέπρακται εἶπε καὶ πεπίστευται παρʼ αὐτοῖς ἀληθέστερον θεολογεῖν, ᾧ καὶ Ὅμηρος τὰ πολλὰ καὶ περὶ θεῶν μάλιστα ἕπεται) καὶ αὐτοῦ τὴν πρώτην γένεσιν αὐτῶν ἐξ ὕδατος συνιστάντος· Ὠκεανός, ὅσπερ γένεσις πάντεσσι τέτυκται. Ἦν γὰρ ὕδωρ ἀρχὴ κατʼ αὐτὸν τοῖς ὅλοις, ἀπὸ δὲ τοῦ ὕδατος ἰλὺς κατέστη, ἐκ δὲ ἑκατέρων ἐγεννήθη ζῶον δράκων προσπεφυκυῖαν ἔχων κεφαλὴν λέοντος, διὰ μέσου δὲ αὐτῶν θεοῦ πρόσωπον, ὄνομα Ἡρακλῆς καὶ Χρόνος. Οὗτος ὁ Ἡρακλῆς ἐγέννησεν ὑπερμέγεθες ὠόν, ὃ συμπληρούμενον ὑπὸ βίας τοῦ γεγεννηκότος ἐκ παρατριβῆς εἰς δύο ἐῤῥάγη· τὸ μὲν οὖν κατὰ κορυφὴν αὐτοῦ οὐρανὸς εἶναι ἐτελέσθη, τὸ δὲ κατενεχθὲν γῆ. Προῆλθε δὲ καὶ θεὸς Γῆ διὰ σώματος· Οὐρανὸς δὲ Γῇ μιχθεὶς γεννᾷ θηλείας μὲν Κλωθώ, Λάχεσιν, Ἄτροπον, ἄνδρας δὲ ἑκατόγχειρας Κόττυν, Γύγην, Βριάρεων, καὶ Κύκλωπας Βρόντην καὶ Στερόπην καὶ Ἄργον· οὓς καὶ δήσας κατεταρτάρωσεν, ἐκπεσεῖσθαι αὐτὸν ὑπὸ τῶν παίδων τῆς ἀρχῆς μαθών. Διὸ καὶ ὀργισθεῖσα ἡ Γῆ τοὺς Τιτᾶνας ἐγέννησε. Κούρους δʼ οὐρανίωνας ἐγείνατο πότνια Γαῖα, Οὓς δὴ καὶ Τιτῆνας ἐπίκλησιν καλέουσιν, Οὕνεκα τισάσθην μέγαν Οὐρανὸν ἀστερόεντα.

Epei toinyn phasi tines eikonas men einai tautas, theous de ephʼ hois hai eikones, kai tas prosodous has tautais prosiasi kai tas thysias epʼ ekeinous anapheresthai kai eis ekeinous ginesthai, mē einai te heteron tropon tois theois ē touton proselthein (chalepoi de theoi phainesthai enargeis), kai tou tauthʼ houtōs echein tekmēria parechousi tas eniōn eidōlōn energeias, phere exetasōmen tēn epi tois onomasi dynamin autōn. Deēsomai de hymōn, megistoi autokratorōn, pro tou logou alētheis parechomenǭ tous logismous syngnōnai; ou gar prokeimenon moi elenchein ta eidōla, alla apolyomenos tas diabolas logismon tēs proaireseōs hēmōn parechō. Echoite aphʼ heautōn kai tēn epouranion basileian exetazein; hōs gar hymin patri kai huiǭ panta kecheirōtai, anōthen tēn basileian eilēphosi (basileōs gar psychē en cheiri theou, phēsi to prophētikon pneuma), houtōs heni tǭ theǭ kai tǭ parʼ autou logǭ huiǭ nooumenǭ ameristǭ panta hypotetaktai. Ekeino toinyn skepsasthe moi pro tōn allōn. Ouk ex archēs, hōs phasin, ēsan hoi theoi, allʼ houtōs gegonen autōn hekastos hōs ginometha hēmeis. Kai touto pasin autois xymphōnei; Homērou men gar legontos; Ōkeanon te, theōn genesin, kai mētera Tēthyn, Orpheōs de (hos kai ta onomata autōn prōtos exeure kai tas geneseis diexēlthe kai hosa hekastois pepraktai eipe kai pepisteutai parʼ autois alēthesteron theologein, hǭ kai Homēros ta polla kai peri theōn malista hepetai) kai autou tēn prōtēn genesin autōn ex hydatos synistantos; Ōkeanos, hosper genesis pantessi tetyktai. Ēn gar hydōr archē katʼ auton tois holois, apo de tou hydatos ilys katestē, ek de hekaterōn egennēthē zōon drakōn prospephykuian echōn kephalēn leontos, dia mesou de autōn theou prosōpon, onoma Hēraklēs kai Chronos. Houtos ho Hēraklēs egennēsen hypermegethes ōon, ho symplēroumenon hypo bias tou gegennēkotos ek paratribēs eis dyo errhagē; to men oun kata koryphēn autou ouranos einai etelesthē, to de katenechthen gē. Proēlthe de kai theos Gē dia sōmatos; Ouranos de Gę̄ michtheis genną thēleias men Klōthō, Lachesin, Atropon, andras de hekatoncheiras Kottyn, Gygēn, Briareōn, kai Kyklōpas Brontēn kai Steropēn kai Argon; hous kai dēsas katetartarōsen, ekpeseisthai auton hypo tōn paidōn tēs archēs mathōn. Dio kai orgistheisa hē Gē tous Titanas egennēse. Kourous dʼ ouraniōnas egeinato potnia Gaia, Hous dē kai Titēnas epiklēsin kaleousin, Houneka tisasthēn megan Ouranon asteroenta.

Some say that these are only images, and that the gods are those whom the images represent; that the processions and sacrifices offered to the images are referred to those gods and are made for them; and that there is no other way of approaching the gods (“hard are the gods to see in their true form”); and as proof that this is so they offer the workings of certain idols. Let us, then, examine the power attached to their names. But I must beg you, greatest of emperors, before I speak, to forgive me for offering true arguments. For it is not my purpose to refute the idols, but, clearing away the slanders, to give an account of the way of life we have chosen. You may examine the heavenly kingdom by your own example. For just as all things are subject to you, father and son, who have received your kingdom from above (“for the king's soul is in the hand of God,” says the prophetic Spirit), so all things are subordinated to the one God and to the Word that comes from him, understood as his Son, inseparable from him. Consider this above all. The gods, as they say, did not exist from the beginning; each of them came into being just as we do. And on this they all agree. Homer says: “Ocean, origin of the gods, and mother Tethys.” And Orpheus (who first discovered their names, recounted their births, and told what each of them did, who is believed among them to speak more truly about the gods, and whom Homer follows in most things, especially concerning the gods) also makes their first origin from water: “Ocean, who is the origin of all.” According to him water was the beginning of all things; from water, mud was formed; and from both was born a living creature, a serpent with the head of a lion growing on it, and between them the face of a god, named Heracles and Kronos. This Heracles produced an enormous egg, which, filled by the force of its begetter, broke in two from the friction. The upper part became heaven, and the part that fell down became earth. There came forth also the goddess Earth, with a body; and Heaven, uniting with Earth, begets the females Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, and the males, the hundred-handed Cottus, Gyges, and Briareus, and the Cyclopes Brontes, Steropes, and Argus. These he bound and cast into Tartarus, having learned that he would be deposed from his rule by his children. For this reason Earth in her anger bore the Titans: “Lady Earth bore the sons of Heaven, whom they call Titans, because they took vengeance on great starry Heaven.”

Prov 21:1 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: As the two emperors, father and son, rule all things, so God rules all through his Son, the Word; the pagan gods, by their own poets' account, were born, like human beings.

  • “Father and son”: Marcus Aurelius and Commodus. The comparison of the Father and the Son with the two co-emperors is Athenagoras's own.
  • “Hard are the gods to see in their true form” is Iliad 20.131; “Ocean, origin of the gods” is Iliad 14.201 (and 14.246 for Ocean as origin of all). The cosmogony of the serpent and the egg is from Orphic poems.
  • “The king's soul is in the hand of God” is Prov 21:1 in a form close to the Septuagint (“the king's heart”).

Extrabiblical texts: Homer, Il. 20.131 (Homer, Iliad; quotation); Homer, Il. 14.201 (Homer, Iliad; quotation); Orpheus (attributed), Orph. frag. (Orpheus (attributed), Orphic poems (fragments); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Paganism

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 18 (Otto 7:80–88; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/18).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 19

19Otto 7:88–90

Αὕτη ἀρχὴ γενέσεως περὶ τοὺς κατʼ αὐτοὺς θεούς τε καὶ τὸ πᾶν. Τί ἐκεῖνο τοίνυν; Ἕκαστον γὰρ τῶν τεθεολογημένων ὡς τὴν ἀρχὴν ὂν νοεῖται. Εἰ γὰρ γεγόνασιν οὐκ ὄντες, ὡς οἱ περὶ αὐτῶν θεολογοῦντες λέγουσιν, οὐκ εἰσίν. Ἢ γὰρ ἀγένητόν τι καὶ ἔστιν ἀΐδιον, ἢ γενητὸν καὶ φθαρτόν ἐστι. Καὶ οὐκ ἐγὼ μὲν οὕτως, ἑτέρως δὲ οἱ φιλόσοφοι. Τί τὸ ὂν ἀεί, γένεσίν τε οὐκ ἔχον, ἢ τί τὸ γενόμενον μέν, ὂν δὲ οὐδέποτε; Περὶ νοητοῦ καὶ αἰσθητοῦ διαλεγόμενος ὁ Πλάτων τὸ μὲν ἀεὶ ὄν, τὸ νοητόν, ἀγένητον εἶναι διδάσκει, τὸ δὲ οὐκ ὄν, τὸ αἰσθητόν, γενητόν, ἀρχόμενον εἶναι καὶ παυόμενον. Τούτῳ καὶ οἱ ἀπὸ τῆς στοᾶς τῷ λόγῳ ἐκπυρωθήσεσθαι τὰ πάντα καὶ πάλιν ἔσεσθαί φασιν, ἑτέραν ἀρχὴν τοῦ κόσμου λαβόντος. Εἰ δέ, καίτοι δισσοῦ αἰτίου κατʼ αὐτοὺς ὄντος, τοῦ μὲν δραστηρίου καὶ καταρχομένου, καθὸ ἡ πρόνοια, τοῦ δὲ πάσχοντος καὶ τρεπομένου, καθὸ ἡ ὕλη, ἀδύνατον δέ ἐστι καὶ προνοούμενον ἐπὶ ταὐτοῦ μεῖναι τὸν κόσμον γενόμενον, πῶς ἡ τούτων μένει σύστασις, οὐ φύσει ὄντων ἀλλὰ γενομένων; Τί δὲ τῆς ὕλης κρείττους οἱ θεοί, τὴν σύστασιν ἐξ ὕδατος ἔχοντες; Ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ κατʼ αὐτοὺς ὕδωρ τοῖς πᾶσιν ἀρχή. Ἔκ τε ἁπλῶν καὶ μονοειδῶν τί ἂν συστῆναι στοιχείων δύναιτο; Δεῖ δὲ καὶ τῇ ὕλῃ τεχνίτου καὶ ὕλης τῷ τεχνίτῃ. Ἢ πῶς ἂν γένοιτο τὰ ἐκτυπώματα χωρὶς τῆς ὕλης ἢ τοῦ τεχνίτου; Οὔτε πρεσβυτέραν λόγον ἔχει εἶναι τὴν ὕλην τοῦ θεοῦ· τὸ γὰρ ποιητικὸν αἴτιον προκατάρχειν τῶν γινομένων ἀνάγκη.

Hautē archē geneseōs peri tous katʼ autous theous te kai to pan. Ti ekeino toinyn? Hekaston gar tōn tetheologēmenōn hōs tēn archēn on noeitai. Ei gar gegonasin ouk ontes, hōs hoi peri autōn theologountes legousin, ouk eisin. Ē gar agenēton ti kai estin aïdion, ē genēton kai phtharton esti. Kai ouk egō men houtōs, heterōs de hoi philosophoi. Ti to on aei, genesin te ouk echon, ē ti to genomenon men, on de oudepote? Peri noētou kai aisthētou dialegomenos ho Platōn to men aei on, to noēton, agenēton einai didaskei, to de ouk on, to aisthēton, genēton, archomenon einai kai pauomenon. Toutǭ kai hoi apo tēs stoas tǭ logǭ ekpyrōthēsesthai ta panta kai palin esesthai phasin, heteran archēn tou kosmou labontos. Ei de, kaitoi dissou aitiou katʼ autous ontos, tou men drastēriou kai katarchomenou, katho hē pronoia, tou de paschontos kai trepomenou, katho hē hylē, adynaton de esti kai pronooumenon epi tautou meinai ton kosmon genomenon, pōs hē toutōn menei systasis, ou physei ontōn alla genomenōn? Ti de tēs hylēs kreittous hoi theoi, tēn systasin ex hydatos echontes? Allʼ oude katʼ autous hydōr tois pasin archē. Ek te haplōn kai monoeidōn ti an systēnai stoicheiōn dynaito? Dei de kai tę̄ hylę̄ technitou kai hylēs tǭ technitę̄. Ē pōs an genoito ta ektypōmata chōris tēs hylēs ē tou technitou? Oute presbyteran logon echei einai tēn hylēn tou theou; to gar poiētikon aition prokatarchein tōn ginomenōn anankē.

This is how, according to them, the generation of their gods and of the universe began. What follows, then? Each of the beings they have made into gods is thought of as having a beginning. And if they came into being, not having existed before, as those who tell of the gods say, then they are not gods. For a thing is either uncreated and eternal, or created and perishable. And this is not just my view, while the philosophers think otherwise: “What is it that always is and has no becoming, and what is it that comes to be but never is?” Plato, discussing the intelligible and the perceptible, teaches that what always is, the intelligible, is uncreated, while what is not, the perceptible, is created, beginning to be and ceasing to be. In line with this reasoning the Stoics too say that all things will be consumed by fire and will exist again, the world taking another beginning. But according to them there is a twofold cause: one active and initiating, namely providence, the other passive and changeable, namely matter; and it is impossible for the world, even under providence, to remain as it is, since it came into being. If so, how can the constitution of these gods remain, when they do not exist by nature but came into being? And how are the gods better than matter, when they derive their constitution from water? Yet not even according to them is water the beginning of all things. For what could be constituted from simple elements of a single kind? Matter needs a craftsman, and the craftsman needs matter. Or how could figures be shaped without matter or without a craftsman? Nor is it reasonable that matter should be older than God; for the efficient cause must come before the things that come into being.

Notes and citation

Summary: Gods that came into being must perish; neither water nor matter can be the origin of all things, for the Maker must precede what is made.

  • The quotation is Plato, Timaeus 27d–28a.
  • “Is thought of as having a beginning” renders a phrase that is awkward in the Greek (ὡς τὴν ἀρχὴν ὂν νοεῖται).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (accent: grave on ἂν before a following word; accent: grave on ὂν before a following word; misprint: φθατόν for φθαρτόν (“perishable”)): ὡς τὴν ἀρχὴν ὄν νοεῖται → ὡς τὴν ἀρχὴν ὂν νοεῖται; γενητὸν καὶ φθατόν → γενητὸν καὶ φθαρτόν; τί ἄν συστῆναι → τί ἂν συστῆναι.

Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 27d (Plato (works); quotation)

Topics: Paganism, Philosophy

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 19 (Otto 7:88–90; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/19).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 20

20Otto 7:90–98

Εἰ μὲν οὖν μέχρι τοῦ φῆσαι γεγονέναι τοὺς θεοὺς καὶ ἐξ ὕδατος τὴν σύστασιν ἔχειν τὸ ἀπίθανον ἦν αὐτοῖς τῆς θεολογίας, ἐπιδεδειχὼς ὅτι οὐδὲν γενητὸν ὃ οὐ καὶ διαλυτόν, ἐπὶ τὰ λοιπὰ ἂν παρεγενόμην τῶν ἐγκλημάτων. Ἐπεὶ δὲ τοῦτο μὲν διατεθείκασιν αὐτῶν τὰ σώματα· τὸν μὲν Ἡρακλέα ὅτι θεὸς δράκων ἑλικτός, τοὺς δὲ ἑκατόγχειρας εἰπόντες, καὶ τὴν θυγατέρα τοῦ Διός, ἣν ἐκ τῆς μητρὸς Ῥέας ἢ Δήμητρος αὐτῆς ἐπαιδοποιήσατο, δύο μὲν κατὰ φύσιν εἶπον ἔχειν ὀφθαλμοὺς καὶ ἐπὶ τῷ μετώπῳ δύο καὶ προτομὴν κατὰ τὸ ὄπισθεν τοῦ τραχήλου μέρος, ἔχειν δὲ καὶ κέρατα, διὸ καὶ τὴν Ῥέαν φοβηθεῖσαν τὸ τῆς παιδὸς τέρας φυγεῖν, οὐκ ἐφεῖσαν αὐτῇ τὴν θηλήν, ἔνθεν μυστικῶς μὲν Ἀθηλᾶ κοινῶς δὲ Φερσεφόνη καὶ Κόρη κέκληται, οὐχ ἡ αὐτὴ οὖσα τῇ Ἀθηνᾷ τῇ ἀπὸ τῆς κόρης λεγομένῃ· τοῦτο δὲ τὰ πραχθέντα ἐπʼ ἀκριβὲς αὐτοῖς ὡς οἴονται διεξεληλύθασι· Κρόνος μὲν ὡς ἐξέτεμε τὰ αἰδοῖα τοῦ πατρὸς καὶ κατέῤῥιψεν αὐτὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ ἅρματος καὶ ὡς ἐτεκνοκτόνει καταπίνων τῶν παίδων τοὺς ἄρσενας, Ζεὺς δὲ ὅτι τὸν μὲν πατέρα δήσας κατεταρτάρωσε, καθὰ καὶ τοὺς υἱεῖς ὁ Οὐρανός, καὶ πρὸς Τιτᾶνας περὶ τῆς ἀρχῆς ἐπολέμησε, καὶ ὅτι τὴν μητέρα Ῥέαν ἀπαγορεύουσαν αὐτοῦ τὸν γάμον ἐδίωκε, δρακαίνης δʼ αὐτῆς γενομένης καὶ αὐτὸς εἰς δράκοντα μεταβαλὼν συνδήσας αὐτὴν τῷ καλουμένῳ Ἡρακλειωτικῷ ἅμματι ἐμίγη, τοῦ σχήματος τῆς μίξεως σύμβολον ἡ τοῦ Ἑρμοῦ ῥάβδος, εἶθʼ ὅτι Φερσεφόνῃ τῇ θυγατρὶ ἐμίγη βιασάμενος καὶ ταύτην ἐν δράκοντος σχήματι, ἐξ ἧς παῖς Διόνυσος αὐτῷ· ἀνάγκη κἂν τοσοῦτον εἰπεῖν· Τί τὸ σεμνὸν ἢ χρηστὸν τῆς τοιαύτης ἱστορίας, ἵνα πιστεύσωμεν θεοὺς εἶναι τὸν Κρόνον, τὸν Δία, τὴν Κόρην, τοὺς λοιπούς; Αἱ διαθέσεις τῶν σωμάτων; Καὶ τίς ἂν ἄνθρωπος κεκριμένος καὶ ἐν θεωρίᾳ γεγονὼς ὑπὸ θεοῦ γεννηθῆναι πιστεύσαι ἔχιδναν (Ὀρφεύς· Ἂν δὲ Φάνης ἄλλην γενεὴν τεκνώσατο δεινὴν Νηδύος ἐξ ἱερῆς, προσιδεῖν φοβερωπὸν ἔχιδναν, Ἦς χαῖται μὲν ἀπὸ κρατὸς καλόν τε πρόσωπον Ἦν ἐσιδεῖν, τὰ δὲ λοιπὰ μέρη φοβεροῖο δράκοντος Αὐχένος ἐξ ἄκρου.) ἢ αὐτὸν τὸν Φάνητα δέξαιτο, θεὸν ὄντα πρωτόγονον (οὗτος γάρ ἐστιν ὁ ἐκ τοῦ ὠοῦ προχυθείς), ἢ σῶμα ἢ σχῆμα ἔχειν δράκοντος, ἢ καταποθῆναι ὑπὸ τοῦ Διός, ὅπως ὁ Ζεὺς ἀχώρητος γένοιτο; Εἰ γὰρ μηδὲν διενηνόχασι τῶν φαυλοτάτων θηρίων (δῆλον γὰρ ὅτι ὑποδιαλλάσσειν δεῖ τῶν γηΐνων καὶ τῶν ἀπὸ τῆς ὕλης ἀποκρινομένων τὸ θεῖον), οὐκ εἰσὶ θεοί. Τί δαὶ καὶ πρόσιμεν αὐτοῖς, ὧν κτηνῶν μὲν δίκην ἔχει ἡ γένεσις, αὐτοὶ δὲ θηριόμορφοι καὶ δυσειδεῖς;

Ei men oun mechri tou phēsai gegonenai tous theous kai ex hydatos tēn systasin echein to apithanon ēn autois tēs theologias, epidedeichōs hoti ouden genēton ho ou kai dialyton, epi ta loipa an paregenomēn tōn enklēmatōn. Epei de touto men diatetheikasin autōn ta sōmata; ton men Hēraklea hoti theos drakōn heliktos, tous de hekatoncheiras eipontes, kai tēn thygatera tou Dios, hēn ek tēs mētros Rheas ē Dēmētros autēs epaidopoiēsato, dyo men kata physin eipon echein ophthalmous kai epi tǭ metōpǭ dyo kai protomēn kata to opisthen tou trachēlou meros, echein de kai kerata, dio kai tēn Rhean phobētheisan to tēs paidos teras phygein, ouk epheisan autę̄ tēn thēlēn, enthen mystikōs men Athēla koinōs de Phersephonē kai Korē keklētai, ouch hē autē ousa tę̄ Athēną tę̄ apo tēs korēs legomenę̄; touto de ta prachthenta epʼ akribes autois hōs oiontai diexelēlythasi; Kronos men hōs exeteme ta aidoia tou patros kai katerrhipsen auton apo tou harmatos kai hōs eteknoktonei katapinōn tōn paidōn tous arsenas, Zeus de hoti ton men patera dēsas katetartarōse, katha kai tous huieis ho Ouranos, kai pros Titanas peri tēs archēs epolemēse, kai hoti tēn mētera Rhean apagoreuousan autou ton gamon ediōke, drakainēs dʼ autēs genomenēs kai autos eis drakonta metabalōn syndēsas autēn tǭ kaloumenǭ Hērakleiōtikǭ hammati emigē, tou schēmatos tēs mixeōs symbolon hē tou Hermou rhabdos, eithʼ hoti Phersephonę̄ tę̄ thygatri emigē biasamenos kai tautēn en drakontos schēmati, ex hēs pais Dionysos autǭ; anankē kan tosouton eipein; Ti to semnon ē chrēston tēs toiautēs historias, hina pisteusōmen theous einai ton Kronon, ton Dia, tēn Korēn, tous loipous? Hai diatheseis tōn sōmatōn? Kai tis an anthrōpos kekrimenos kai en theōrią gegonōs hypo theou gennēthēnai pisteusai echidnan (Orpheus; An de Phanēs allēn geneēn teknōsato deinēn Nēdyos ex hierēs, prosidein phoberōpon echidnan, Ēs chaitai men apo kratos kalon te prosōpon Ēn esidein, ta de loipa merē phoberoio drakontos Auchenos ex akrou.) ē auton ton Phanēta dexaito, theon onta prōtogonon (houtos gar estin ho ek tou ōou prochytheis), ē sōma ē schēma echein drakontos, ē katapothēnai hypo tou Dios, hopōs ho Zeus achōrētos genoito? Ei gar mēden dienēnochasi tōn phaulotatōn thēriōn (dēlon gar hoti hypodiallassein dei tōn gēïnōn kai tōn apo tēs hylēs apokrinomenōn to theion), ouk eisi theoi. Ti dai kai prosimen autois, hōn ktēnōn men dikēn echei hē genesis, autoi de thēriomorphoi kai dyseideis?

If the implausibility of their theology went no further than saying that the gods came into being and were formed from water, I would have shown that nothing created is not also dissoluble, and gone on to the remaining charges. But they have described the gods' bodies. They say that Heracles is a god in the form of a coiled serpent; they speak of the hundred-handed ones; and of the daughter whom Zeus fathered by his mother Rhea, or Demeter, they say that she had two eyes in the natural place and two on her forehead, and a second face at the back of her neck, and horns as well, so that Rhea, frightened at the monstrous child, fled and did not give her the breast (θηλή); hence she is called Athela in the mysteries, but commonly Persephone and Kore, and is not the same as Athena, who is named from the pupil of the eye (κόρη). And they have recounted their deeds in detail, as they think: how Kronos cut off his father's genitals and threw him down from his chariot, and how he murdered his children by swallowing the males; how Zeus bound his father and cast him into Tartarus, as Heaven had done to his sons, and fought the Titans for the rule; how he pursued his mother Rhea when she forbade him to marry, and when she became a she-serpent he too changed into a serpent, bound her with the so-called Heraclean knot, and had intercourse with her (the staff of Hermes is the symbol of the form of that union); and then how he violated his daughter Persephone, again in the form of a serpent, and had by her a son, Dionysus. I must say at least this much: what is venerable or good in such a story, that we should believe Kronos, Zeus, Kore, and the rest to be gods? The shapes of their bodies? What man of judgment, trained in contemplation, would believe that a viper was begotten by a god (Orpheus says: “But Phanes brought forth another offspring, terrible, from his holy womb, a viper fearful to behold, whose hair from its head and fair face were lovely to see, but the other parts were those of a dreadful serpent, from the top of the neck down”)? Or who would accept that Phanes himself, a first-born god (for he is the one who was poured out from the egg), had the body or shape of a serpent, or was swallowed by Zeus so that Zeus might become boundless? If they differ in nothing from the lowest beasts (for clearly the divine must differ from earthly things and from what is formed out of matter), they are not gods. Why then should we approach beings whose birth is like that of cattle, and who are themselves beast-shaped and ugly?

Notes and citation

Summary: The poets' gods have monstrous bodies and commit parricide, incest, and rape; such beings are no better than beasts and cannot be gods.

  • The genealogy is from the Orphic theogonies; Phanes is the first-born god who hatched from the cosmic egg (ch. 18).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (accent: grave on ἂν before a following word): ἄν παρεγενόμην → ἂν παρεγενόμην.

Extrabiblical texts: Orpheus (attributed), Orph. frag. (Orpheus (attributed), Orphic poems (fragments); quotation)

Topics: Paganism

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 20 (Otto 7:90–98; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/20).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 21

21Otto 7:98–104

Καίτοι εἰ σαρκοειδεῖς μόνον ἔλεγον αὐτοὺς καὶ αἷμα ἔχειν καὶ σπέρμα καὶ πάθη ὀργῆς καὶ ἐπιθυμίας, καὶ τότε ἔδει λῆρον καὶ γέλωτος λόγους τούτους νομίζειν· οὔτε γὰρ ὀργὴ οὔτε ἐπιθυμία καὶ ὄρεξις οὐδὲ παιδοποιὸν σπέρμα ἐν τῷ θεῷ. Ἔστωσαν τοίνυν σαρκοειδεῖς, ἀλλὰ κρείττους μὲν θυμοῦ καὶ ὀργῆς, ἵνα μὴ Ἀθηνᾶ μὲν βλέπηται Σκυζομένη Διῒ πατρί, χόλος δέ μιν ἄγριος αἱρεῖ, Ἥρα δὲ θεωρῆται· Ἥρῃ δʼ οὐκ ἔχαδε στῆθος χόλον, ἀλλὰ προσηύδα. Κρείττους δὲ λύπης· Ὢ πόποι, ἦ φίλον ἄνδρα διωκόμενον περὶ τεῖχος Ὀφθαλμοῖσιν ὁρῶμαι· ἐμὸν δʼ ὀλοφύρεται ἦτορ. Ἐγὼ μὲν γὰρ καὶ ἀνθρώπους ἀμαθεῖς καὶ σκαιοὺς λέγω τοὺς ὀργῇ καὶ λύπῃ εἴκοντας. Ὅταν δὲ ὁ πατὴρ ἀνδρῶν τε θεῶν τε ὀδύρηται μὲν τὸν υἱόν, Αἲ αἲ ἐγών, ὅτε μοι Σαρπηδόνα φίλτατον ἀνδρῶν Μοῖρʼ ὑπὸ Πατρόκλοιο Μενοιτιάδαο δαμῆναι! ἀδυνατῇ δὲ ὀδυρόμενος τοῦ κινδύνου ἐξαρπάσαι, Σαρπηδὼν Διὸς υἱός, ὁ δʼ οὐδʼ ᾧ παιδὶ ἀμύνει, τίς οὐκ ἂν τοὺς ἐπὶ τοῖς τοιούτοις μύθοις φιλοθέους, μᾶλλον δὲ ἀθέους, τῆς ἀμαθίας καταμέμψοιτο; Ἔστωσαν σαρκοειδεῖς, ἀλλὰ μὴ τιτρωσκέσθω μηδὲ Ἀφροδίτη ὑπὸ Διομήδους τὸ σῶμα, Οὖτά με Τυδέος υἱὸς ὑπέρθυμος Διομήδης, ἢ ὑπὸ Ἄρεως τὴν ψυχήν, Ὡς ἐμὲ χωλὸν ἐόντα Διὸς θυγάτηρ Ἀφροδίτη Αἰὲν ἀτιμάζει, φιλέει δʼ ἀΐδηλον Ἄρηα. — — Διὰ δὲ χρόα καλὸν ἔδαψεν. Ὁ δεινὸς ἐν πολέμοις, ὁ σύμμαχος κατὰ Τιτάνων τοῦ Διός, ἀσθενέστερος Διομήδους φαίνεται. Μαίνετο δʼ ὡς ὅτʼ Ἄρης ἐγχέσπαλος —. Σιώπησον Ὅμηρε, θεὸς οὐ μαίνεται. Σὺ δέ μοι καὶ μιαιφόνον καὶ βροτολοιγόν, Ἄρες, Ἄρες βροτολοιγέ, μιαιφόνε, διηγῇ τὸν θεόν, καὶ τὴν μοιχείαν αὐτοῦ διέξει καὶ τὰ δεσμά· Τὼ δʼ ἐς δέμνια βάντε κατέδραθον, ἀμφὶ δὲ δεσμοὶ Τεχνήεντες ἔχυντο πολύφρονος Ἡφαίστοιο, Οὐδέ τι κινῆσαι μελέων ἦν. Οὐ καταβάλλουσι τὸν πολὺν τοῦτον ἀσεβῆ λῆρον περὶ τῶν θεῶν; Οὐρανὸς ἐκτέμνεται, δεῖται καὶ καταταρταροῦται Κρόνος, ἐπανίστανται Τιτᾶνες, Στὺξ ἀποθνήσκει κατὰ τὴν μάχην· ἤδη καὶ θνητοὺς αὐτοὺς δεικνύουσιν· ἐρῶσιν ἀλλήλων, ἐρῶσιν ἀνθρώπων. Αἰνείας, τὸν ὑπʼ Ἀγχίσῃ τέκε δῖʼ Ἀφροδίτη, Ἴδης ἐν κνημοῖσι θεὰ βροτῷ εὐνηθεῖσα. Οὐκ ἐρῶσιν; Οὐ πάσχουσιν; Ἦ γὰρ θεοί, καὶ οὐχ ἅψεται αὐτῶν ἐπιθυμία! Κἂν σάρκα θεὸς κατὰ θείαν οἰκονομίαν λάβῃ, ἤδη δοῦλός ἐστιν ἐπιθυμίας; Οὐ γὰρ πώποτέ μʼ ὧδε θεᾶς ἔρος οὐδὲ γυναικὸς Θυμὸν ἐνὶ στήθεσσι περιπροχυθεὶς ἐδάμασσεν· Οὐδʼ ὁπότʼ ἠρασάμην Ἰξιονίης ἀλόχοιο, Οὐδʼ ὅτε περ Δανάης καλλισφύρου Ἀκρισιώνης, Οὐδʼ ὅτε Φοίνικος κούρης τηλεκλειτοῖο, Οὐδʼ ὅτε περ Σεμέλης, οὐδʼ Ἀλκμήνης ἐνὶ Θήβῃ, Οὐδʼ ὅτε Δήμητρος καλλιπλοκάμοιο ἀνάσσης, Οὐδʼ ὅτε περ Λητοῦς ἐρικυδέος, οὐδὲ σεῦ αὐτῆς. Γενητός ἐστι, φθαρτός ἐστιν, οὐδὲν ἔχων θεοῦ. Ἀλλὰ καὶ θητεύουσιν ἀνθρώποις· Ὦ δώματʼ Ἀδμήτειʼ, ἐν οἷς ἔτλην ἐγὼ Θῆσσαν τράπεζαν αἰνέσαι, θεός περ ὤν· καὶ βουκολοῦσιν· Ἐλθὼν δʼ ἐς αἶαν τήνδʼ ἐβουφόρβουν ξένῳ, Καὶ τόνδʼ ἔσωζον οἶκον. Οὐκοῦν κρείττων Ἄδμητος τοῦ θεοῦ. Ὦ μάντι καὶ σοφὲ καὶ προειδὼς τοῖς ἄλλοις τὰ ἐσόμενα, οὐκ ἐμαντεύσω τοῦ ἐρωμένου τὸν φόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἔκτεινας αὐτοχειρὶ τὸν φίλον. Κἀγὼ τὸ Φοίβου θεῖον ἀψευδὲς στόμα Ἤλπιζον εἶναι, μαντικῇ βρύον τέχνῃ. (ὡς ψευδόμαντιν κακίζει τὸν Ἀπόλλω ὁ Αἰσχύλος) Ὁ δʼ αὐτὸς ὑμνῶν, αὐτὸς ἐν θοίνῃ παρών, Αὐτὸς τάδʼ εἰπών, αὐτός ἐστιν ὁ κτανὼν Τὸν παῖδα τὸν ἐμόν.

Kaitoi ei sarkoeideis monon elegon autous kai haima echein kai sperma kai pathē orgēs kai epithymias, kai tote edei lēron kai gelōtos logous toutous nomizein; oute gar orgē oute epithymia kai orexis oude paidopoion sperma en tǭ theǭ. Estōsan toinyn sarkoeideis, alla kreittous men thymou kai orgēs, hina mē Athēna men blepētai Skyzomenē Diï patri, cholos de min agrios hairei, Hēra de theōrētai; Hērę̄ dʼ ouk echade stēthos cholon, alla prosēuda. Kreittous de lypēs; Ō popoi, ē philon andra diōkomenon peri teichos Ophthalmoisin horōmai; emon dʼ olophyretai ētor. Egō men gar kai anthrōpous amatheis kai skaious legō tous orgę̄ kai lypę̄ eikontas. Hotan de ho patēr andrōn te theōn te odyrētai men ton huion, Ai ai egōn, hote moi Sarpēdona philtaton andrōn Moirʼ hypo Patrokloio Menoitiadao damēnai! adynatę̄ de odyromenos tou kindynou exarpasai, Sarpēdōn Dios huios, ho dʼ oudʼ hǭ paidi amynei, tis ouk an tous epi tois toioutois mythois philotheous, mallon de atheous, tēs amathias katamempsoito? Estōsan sarkoeideis, alla mē titrōskesthō mēde Aphroditē hypo Diomēdous to sōma, Outa me Tydeos huios hyperthymos Diomēdēs, ē hypo Areōs tēn psychēn, Hōs eme chōlon eonta Dios thygatēr Aphroditē Aien atimazei, phileei dʼ aïdēlon Arēa. — — Dia de chroa kalon edapsen. Ho deinos en polemois, ho symmachos kata Titanōn tou Dios, asthenesteros Diomēdous phainetai. Maineto dʼ hōs hotʼ Arēs enchespalos —. Siōpēson Homēre, theos ou mainetai. Sy de moi kai miaiphonon kai brotoloigon, Ares, Ares brotoloige, miaiphone, diēgę̄ ton theon, kai tēn moicheian autou diexei kai ta desma; Tō dʼ es demnia bante katedrathon, amphi de desmoi Technēentes echynto polyphronos Hēphaistoio, Oude ti kinēsai meleōn ēn. Ou kataballousi ton polyn touton asebē lēron peri tōn theōn? Ouranos ektemnetai, deitai kai katatartaroutai Kronos, epanistantai Titanes, Styx apothnēskei kata tēn machēn; ēdē kai thnētous autous deiknyousin; erōsin allēlōn, erōsin anthrōpōn. Aineias, ton hypʼ Anchisę̄ teke diʼ Aphroditē, Idēs en knēmoisi thea brotǭ eunētheisa. Ouk erōsin? Ou paschousin? Ē gar theoi, kai ouch hapsetai autōn epithymia! Kan sarka theos kata theian oikonomian labę̄, ēdē doulos estin epithymias? Ou gar pōpote mʼ hōde theas eros oude gynaikos Thymon eni stēthessi periprochytheis edamassen; Oudʼ hopotʼ ērasamēn Ixioniēs alochoio, Oudʼ hote per Danaēs kallisphyrou Akrisiōnēs, Oudʼ hote Phoinikos kourēs tēlekleitoio, Oudʼ hote per Semelēs, oudʼ Alkmēnēs eni Thēbę̄, Oudʼ hote Dēmētros kalliplokamoio anassēs, Oudʼ hote per Lētous erikydeos, oude seu autēs. Genētos esti, phthartos estin, ouden echōn theou. Alla kai thēteuousin anthrōpois; Ō dōmatʼ Admēteiʼ, en hois etlēn egō Thēssan trapezan ainesai, theos per ōn; kai boukolousin; Elthōn dʼ es aian tēndʼ ebouphorboun xenǭ, Kai tondʼ esōzon oikon. Oukoun kreittōn Admētos tou theou. Ō manti kai sophe kai proeidōs tois allois ta esomena, ouk emanteusō tou erōmenou ton phonon, alla kai ekteinas autocheiri ton philon. Kagō to Phoibou theion apseudes stoma Ēlpizon einai, mantikę̄ bryon technę̄. (hōs pseudomantin kakizei ton Apollō ho Aischylos) Ho dʼ autos hymnōn, autos en thoinę̄ parōn, Autos tadʼ eipōn, autos estin ho ktanōn Ton paida ton emon.

And yet, if they had only said that the gods were fleshly and had blood and seed and passions of anger and desire, even then one ought to consider such stories nonsense and laughable; for in God there is neither anger, nor desire and appetite, nor seed for begetting children. Let them be fleshly, then, but above wrath and anger, so that Athena may not be seen “angry with father Zeus, and savage wrath seized her,” nor Hera be looked on thus: “Hera's breast could not contain her anger, but she spoke.” Let them be above grief: “Alas, a man dear to me I see with my eyes pursued around the wall; my heart laments.” I call even human beings ignorant and boorish who give way to anger and grief. But when “the father of men and gods” laments his son: “Woe is me, that it is fated for Sarpedon, dearest of men to me, to be slain by Patroclus son of Menoetius!” and for all his lamenting cannot snatch him from danger: “Sarpedon, son of Zeus; but he does not help even his own son”; who would not blame the ignorance of those who, on the strength of such myths, are lovers of the gods, or rather godless? Let them be fleshly, but let not Aphrodite be wounded in body by Diomedes: “The son of Tydeus, high-spirited Diomedes, wounded me,” nor in soul by Ares: “How Zeus's daughter Aphrodite always dishonors me, because I am lame, and loves destructive Ares”; “and he tore her fair skin.” The one who is terrible in war, Zeus's ally against the Titans, shows himself weaker than Diomedes. “He raged like Ares wielding the spear.” Be silent, Homer; a god does not rage. But you describe the god to me as bloodstained and a bane to mortals, “Ares, Ares, bane of mortals, bloodstained,” and you tell of his adultery and his bonds: “The two went to bed and slept, and about them were poured the cunning bonds of wise Hephaestus, and they could not move a limb.” Will they not give up this great and impious nonsense about the gods? Heaven is castrated; Kronos is bound and cast into Tartarus; the Titans revolt; Styx dies in the battle: so they even show that the gods are mortal. They love one another; they love human beings: “Aeneas, whom divine Aphrodite bore to Anchises, the goddess lying with a mortal in the glens of Ida.” Do they not love? Do they not suffer? Surely, if they were gods, desire would not touch them! Even if God takes flesh by a divine dispensation, is he therefore a slave of desire? “For never yet did love of goddess or woman so flood and overpower the heart in my breast: not when I loved the wife of Ixion, nor when I loved Danae of the fair ankles, daughter of Acrisius, nor the daughter of far-famed Phoenix, nor Semele, nor Alcmene in Thebes, nor Demeter, the fair-haired queen, nor glorious Leto, nor you yourself.” He is created, he is perishable, having nothing of God in him. They even serve human beings for hire: “O house of Admetus, in which I endured to accept a menial's table, god though I am”; and they herd cattle: “Coming to this land I tended cattle for my host, and kept this house safe.” So Admetus is superior to the god! O prophet and sage, who foreknows the future for others, you did not foresee the killing of your beloved, but even killed your friend with your own hand. “And I hoped that the divine mouth of Phoebus was free of falsehood, teeming with prophetic art” (so Aeschylus reproaches Apollo as a false prophet); “yet he who sang, he who was present at the feast, he who said these things, he it is who killed my son.”

Notes and citation

Summary: The gods of Homer rage, grieve, are wounded, commit adultery, and serve men for hire; beings with such passions are not gods.

  • The Homeric quotations are Iliad 4.23–24, 8.461, 22.168–169, 16.433–434, 16.522, 5.376, Odyssey 8.308–309, Iliad 5.858, 15.605, 5.31, Odyssey 8.296–298, Iliad 2.820–821, 14.315–327. The lines about Admetus are Euripides, Alcestis 1–2 and 8–9; the last lines are a fragment of Aeschylus.
  • “Even if God takes flesh by a divine dispensation, is he therefore a slave of desire?” is a brief allusion to the incarnation: the Christian God who became flesh is not ruled by passion as the poets' gods are.

Extrabiblical texts: Homer, Il. (Homer, Iliad; quotation); Homer, Od. 8.296–309 (Homer, Odyssey; quotation); Euripides, Alc. 1–9 (Euripides (plays and fragments); quotation); Aeschylus (Aeschylus (plays and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Paganism, God

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 21 (Otto 7:98–104; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/21).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 22

22Otto 7:104–116

Ἀλλὰ ταῦτα μὲν ἴσως, πλάνη ποιητική, φυσικὸς δέ τις ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς καὶ τοιοῦτος λόγος· Ζεὺς ἀργὴς (ὥς φησιν Ἐμπεδοκλῆς) Ἥρη τε φερέσβιος ἠδʼ Ἀϊδωνεὺς Νῆστίς θʼ, ἣ δακρύοις τέγγει κρούνωμα βρότειον. Εἰ τοίνυν Ζεὺς μὲν τὸ πῦρ, Ἥρα δὲ ἡ γῆ καὶ ὁ ἀὴρ Ἀϊδωνεὺς καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ Νῆστις, στοιχεῖα δὲ ταῦτα, τὸ πῦρ τὸ ὕδωρ ὁ ἀήρ, οὐδεὶς αὐτῶν θεός, οὔτε Ζεὺς οὔτε Ἥρα οὔτε Ἀϊδωνεύς· ἀπὸ γὰρ τῆς ὕλης διακριθείσης ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ ἡ τούτων σύστασίς τε καὶ γένεσις· Πῦρ καὶ ὕδωρ καὶ γαῖα καὶ ἠέρος ἤπιον ὕψος, Καὶ φιλίη μετὰ τοῖσιν. Ἅ χωρὶς τῆς φιλίας οὐ δύναται μένειν, ὑπὸ τοῦ νείκους συγχεόμενα, πῶς ἂν οὖν εἴποι τις ταῦτα εἶναι θεούς; Ἀρχικὸν ἡ φιλία κατὰ τὸν Ἐμπεδοκλέα, ἀρχόμενα τὰ συγκρίματα, τὸ δὲ ἀρχικὸν κύριον· ὥστε, ἐὰν μίαν καὶ τὴν αὐτὴν τοῦ τε ἀρχομένου καὶ τοῦ ἄρχοντος δύναμιν θῶμεν, λήσομεν ἑαυτοὺς ἰσότιμον τὴν ὕλην τὴν φθαρτὴν καὶ ῥευστὴν καὶ μεταβλητὴν τῷ ἀγενήτῳ καὶ ἀϊδίῳ καὶ διαπαντὸς συμφώνῳ ποιοῦντες θεῷ. Ζεὺς ἡ ζέουσα οὐσία κατὰ τοὺς Στωϊκούς, Ἥρα ὁ ἀήρ, καὶ τοῦ ὀνόματος εἰ αὐτὸ αὐτῷ ἐπισυνάπτοιτο συνεκφωνουμένου, Ποσειδῶν ἡ πόσις. Ἄλλοι δὲ ἄλλως φυσιολογοῦσιν· οἱ μὲν γὰρ ἀέρα διφυῆ ἀρσενόθηλυν τὸν Δία λέγουσιν, οἱ δὲ καιρὸν εἰς εὐκρασίαν τρέποντα τὸν χρόνον, διὸ καὶ μόνος Κρόνον διέφυγεν. Ἀλλʼ ἐπὶ μὲν τῶν ἀπὸ τῆς στοᾶς ἔστιν εἰπεῖν· εἰ ἕνα τὸν ἀνωτάτω θεὸν ἀγένητόν τε καὶ ἀΐδιον νομίζετε, συγκρίματα δὲ ἴσα ἡ τῆς ὕλης ἀλλαγή, καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα τοῦ θεοῦ διὰ τῆς ὕλης κεχωρηκὸς κατὰ τὰς παραλλάξεις αὐτῆς ἄλλο καὶ ἄλλο ὄνομα μεταλαγχάνειν φατέ, σῶμα μὲν τὰ εἴδη τῆς ὕλης τοῦ θεοῦ γενήσεται, φθειρομένων δὲ τῶν στοιχείων κατὰ τὴν ἐκπύρωσιν ἀνάγκη συμφθαρῆναι ὁμοῦ τοῖς εἴδεσι τὰ ὀνόματα, μόνου μένοντος τοῦ πνεύματος τοῦ θεοῦ. Ὧν οὖν σωμάτων φθαρτὴ ἡ κατὰ τὴν ὕλην παραλλαγή, τίς ἂν ταῦτα πιστεύσαι θεούς; Πρὸς δὲ τοὺς λέγοντας τὸν μὲν Κρόνον χρόνον, τὴν δὲ Ῥέαν γῆν, τὴν μὲν συλλαμβάνουσαν ἐκ τοῦ Κρόνου καὶ ἀποτίκτουσαν, ἔνθεν καὶ μήτηρ νομίζεται πάντων, τὸν δὲ γεννῶντα καὶ καταναλίσκοντα, καὶ εἶναι τὴν μὲν τομὴν τῶν ἀναγκαίων ὁμιλίαν τοῦ ἄρσενος πρὸς τὸ θῆλυ, τέμνουσαν καὶ καταβάλλουσαν σπέρμα εἰς μήτραν καὶ γεννῶσαν ἄνθρωπον, ἐν ἑαυτῷ τὴν ἐπιθυμίαν, ὅ ἐστιν Ἀφροδίτη, ἔχοντα, τὴν δὲ μανίαν τοῦ Κρόνου τροπὴν καιροῦ φθείρουσαν ἔμψυχα καὶ ἄψυχα, τὰ δὲ δεσμὰ καὶ τὸν τάρταρον χρόνον ὑπὸ καιρῶν τρεπόμενον καὶ ἀφανῆ γινόμενον, πρὸς τοίνυν τούτους φαμέν· εἴτε χρόνος ἐστὶν ὁ Κρόνος, μεταβάλλει, εἴτε καιρός, τρέπεται, εἴτε σκότος ἢ πάγος ἢ οὐσία ὑγρά, οὐδὲν αὐτῶν μένει· τὸ δὲ θεῖον καὶ ἀθάνατον καὶ ἀκίνητον καὶ ἀναλλοίωτον· οὔτε ἄρα ὁ Κρόνος οὔτε τὸ ἐπʼ αὐτῷ εἴδωλον θεός. Περὶ δὲ τοῦ Διός, εἰ μὲν ἀήρ ἐστι γεγονὼς ἐκ Κρόνου, οὗ τὸ μὲν ἄρσεν ὁ Ζεύς, τὸ δὲ θῆλυ Ἥρα (διὸ καὶ ἀδελφὴ καὶ γυνή), ἀλλοιοῦται, εἰ δὲ καιρός, τρέπεται· οὔτε δὲ μεταβάλλει οὔτε μεταπίπτει τὸ θεῖον. Τί δεῖ πλέον λέγοντα ἐνοχλεῖν ὑμῖν, οἳ ἄμεινον τὰ παρʼ ἑκάστοις τῶν πεφυσιολογηκότων οἴδατε, ἢ οἷα περὶ τῆς φύσεως ἐνόησαν οἱ συγγραψάμενοι, ἢ ἃ περὶ τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς ἣν φρόνησιν διὰ πάντων διήκουσάν φασιν, ἢ περὶ τῆς Ἴσιδος ἣν φύσιν αἰῶνος, ἐξ ἧς πάντες ἔφυσαν καὶ διʼ ἧς πάντες εἰσί, λέγουσιν, ἢ περὶ τοῦ Ὀσίριδος οὗ σφαγέντος ὑπὸ Τυφῶνος τοῦ ἀδελφοῦ μετʼ Ὤρου τοῦ υἱοῦ ἡ Ἶσις ζητοῦσα τὰ μέλη καὶ εὑροῦσα ἤσκησεν εἰς ταφήν, ἣ ταφὴ ἕως νῦν Ὀσιριακὴ καλεῖται; Ἄνω γὰρ καὶ κάτω περὶ τὰ εἴδη τῆς ὕλης στρεφόμενοι ἀποπίπτουσι τῷ λόγῳ θεωρητοῦ θεοῦ, τὰ δὲ στοιχεῖα καὶ τὰ μόρια αὐτῶν θεοποιοῦσιν, ἄλλοτε ἄλλα ὀνόματα αὐτοῖς τιθέμενοι, τὴν μὲν τοῦ σίτου σπορὰν Ὄσιριν (ὅθεν φασὶ μυστικῶς ἐπὶ τῇ ἀνευρέσει τῶν μελῶν ἢ τῶν καρπῶν ἐπιλεχθῆναι τῇ Ἴσιδι· Εὑρήκαμεν, συγχαίρομεν!), τὸν δὲ τῆς ἀμπέλου καρπὸν Διόνυσον, καὶ Σεμέλην αὐτὴν τὴν ἄμπελον, καὶ κεραυνὸν τὴν τοῦ ἡλίου φλόγα. Καίτοι γε πάντα μᾶλλον ἢ θεολογοῦσιν οἱ τοὺς μύθους θεοποιοῦντες, οὐκ εἰδότες ὅτι οἷς ἀπολογοῦνται ὑπὲρ τῶν θεῶν τοὺς ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς λόγους βεβαιοῦσι. Τί ἡ Εὐρώπη καὶ ὁ Ταῦρος καὶ ὁ Κύκνος καὶ ἡ Λήδα πρὸς γῆν καὶ ἀέρα, ἵνʼ ἡ πρὸς ταύτας μιαρὰ τοῦ Διὸς μῖξις ᾖ γῆς καὶ ἀέρος; Ἀλλʼ ἀποπίπτοντες τοῦ μεγέθους τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ὑπερκύψαι τῷ λόγῳ (οὐ γὰρ ἔχουσι συμπάθειαν εἰς τὸν οὐράνιον τόπον) οὐ δυνάμενοι ἐπὶ τὰ εἴδη τῆς ὕλης συντετήκασιν, καὶ καταπίπτοντες τὰς τῶν στοιχείων τροπὰς θεοποιοῦσιν· ὅμοιον εἰ καὶ ναῦν τις, ἐν ᾗ ἔπλευσεν, ἀντὶ τοῦ κυβερνήτου ἄγοι. Ὡς δὲ οὐδὲν πλέον νεώς, κἂν ᾖ πᾶσιν ἠσκημένη, μὴ ἐχούσης τὸν κυβερνήτην, οὐδὲ τῶν στοιχείων ὄφελος διακεκοσμημένων δίχα τῆς παρὰ τοῦ θεοῦ προνοίας. Ἥ τε γὰρ ναῦς καθʼ ἑαυτὴν οὐ πλευσεῖται, τά τε στοιχεῖα χωρὶς τοῦ δημιουργοῦ οὐ κινηθήσεται.

Alla tauta men isōs, planē poiētikē, physikos de tis epʼ autois kai toioutos logos; Zeus argēs (hōs phēsin Empedoklēs) Hērē te pheresbios ēdʼ Aïdōneus Nēstis thʼ, hē dakryois tengei krounōma broteion. Ei toinyn Zeus men to pyr, Hēra de hē gē kai ho aēr Aïdōneus kai to hydōr Nēstis, stoicheia de tauta, to pyr to hydōr ho aēr, oudeis autōn theos, oute Zeus oute Hēra oute Aïdōneus; apo gar tēs hylēs diakritheisēs hypo tou theou hē toutōn systasis te kai genesis; Pyr kai hydōr kai gaia kai ēeros ēpion hypsos, Kai philiē meta toisin. Ha chōris tēs philias ou dynatai menein, hypo tou neikous syncheomena, pōs an oun eipoi tis tauta einai theous? Archikon hē philia kata ton Empedoklea, archomena ta synkrimata, to de archikon kyrion; hōste, ean mian kai tēn autēn tou te archomenou kai tou archontos dynamin thōmen, lēsomen heautous isotimon tēn hylēn tēn phthartēn kai rheustēn kai metablētēn tǭ agenētǭ kai aïdiǭ kai diapantos symphōnǭ poiountes theǭ. Zeus hē zeousa ousia kata tous Stōïkous, Hēra ho aēr, kai tou onomatos ei auto autǭ episynaptoito synekphōnoumenou, Poseidōn hē posis. Alloi de allōs physiologousin; hoi men gar aera diphyē arsenothēlyn ton Dia legousin, hoi de kairon eis eukrasian treponta ton chronon, dio kai monos Kronon diephygen. Allʼ epi men tōn apo tēs stoas estin eipein; ei hena ton anōtatō theon agenēton te kai aïdion nomizete, synkrimata de isa hē tēs hylēs allagē, kai to pneuma tou theou dia tēs hylēs kechōrēkos kata tas parallaxeis autēs allo kai allo onoma metalanchanein phate, sōma men ta eidē tēs hylēs tou theou genēsetai, phtheiromenōn de tōn stoicheiōn kata tēn ekpyrōsin anankē symphtharēnai homou tois eidesi ta onomata, monou menontos tou pneumatos tou theou. Hōn oun sōmatōn phthartē hē kata tēn hylēn parallagē, tis an tauta pisteusai theous? Pros de tous legontas ton men Kronon chronon, tēn de Rhean gēn, tēn men syllambanousan ek tou Kronou kai apotiktousan, enthen kai mētēr nomizetai pantōn, ton de gennōnta kai katanaliskonta, kai einai tēn men tomēn tōn anankaiōn homilian tou arsenos pros to thēly, temnousan kai kataballousan sperma eis mētran kai gennōsan anthrōpon, en heautǭ tēn epithymian, ho estin Aphroditē, echonta, tēn de manian tou Kronou tropēn kairou phtheirousan empsycha kai apsycha, ta de desma kai ton tartaron chronon hypo kairōn trepomenon kai aphanē ginomenon, pros toinyn toutous phamen; eite chronos estin ho Kronos, metaballei, eite kairos, trepetai, eite skotos ē pagos ē ousia hygra, ouden autōn menei; to de theion kai athanaton kai akinēton kai analloiōton; oute ara ho Kronos oute to epʼ autǭ eidōlon theos. Peri de tou Dios, ei men aēr esti gegonōs ek Kronou, hou to men arsen ho Zeus, to de thēly Hēra (dio kai adelphē kai gynē), alloioutai, ei de kairos, trepetai; oute de metaballei oute metapiptei to theion. Ti dei pleon legonta enochlein hymin, hoi ameinon ta parʼ hekastois tōn pephysiologēkotōn oidate, ē hoia peri tēs physeōs enoēsan hoi syngrapsamenoi, ē ha peri tēs Athēnas hēn phronēsin dia pantōn diēkousan phasin, ē peri tēs Isidos hēn physin aiōnos, ex hēs pantes ephysan kai diʼ hēs pantes eisi, legousin, ē peri tou Osiridos hou sphagentos hypo Typhōnos tou adelphou metʼ Ōrou tou huiou hē Isis zētousa ta melē kai heurousa ēskēsen eis taphēn, hē taphē heōs nyn Osiriakē kaleitai? Anō gar kai katō peri ta eidē tēs hylēs strephomenoi apopiptousi tǭ logǭ theōrētou theou, ta de stoicheia kai ta moria autōn theopoiousin, allote alla onomata autois tithemenoi, tēn men tou sitou sporan Osirin (hothen phasi mystikōs epi tę̄ aneuresei tōn melōn ē tōn karpōn epilechthēnai tę̄ Isidi; Heurēkamen, synchairomen!), ton de tēs ampelou karpon Dionyson, kai Semelēn autēn tēn ampelon, kai keraunon tēn tou hēliou phloga. Kaitoi ge panta mallon ē theologousin hoi tous mythous theopoiountes, ouk eidotes hoti hois apologountai hyper tōn theōn tous epʼ autois logous bebaiousi. Ti hē Eurōpē kai ho Tauros kai ho Kyknos kai hē Lēda pros gēn kai aera, hinʼ hē pros tautas miara tou Dios mixis ę̄ gēs kai aeros? Allʼ apopiptontes tou megethous tou theou kai hyperkypsai tǭ logǭ (ou gar echousi sympatheian eis ton ouranion topon) ou dynamenoi epi ta eidē tēs hylēs syntetēkasin, kai katapiptontes tas tōn stoicheiōn tropas theopoiousin; homoion ei kai naun tis, en hę̄ epleusen, anti tou kybernētou agoi. Hōs de ouden pleon neōs, kan ę̄ pasin ēskēmenē, mē echousēs ton kybernētēn, oude tōn stoicheiōn ophelos diakekosmēmenōn dicha tēs para tou theou pronoias. Hē te gar naus kathʼ heautēn ou pleuseitai, ta te stoicheia chōris tou dēmiourgou ou kinēthēsetai.

But perhaps these are errors of the poets, and there is a scientific account of them, such as this: “Shining Zeus” (as Empedocles says) “and life-bringing Hera and Aidoneus, and Nestis, who with her tears moistens the springs of mortals.” If, then, Zeus is fire, Hera earth, Aidoneus air, and Nestis water, and these are elements, fire, water, and air, none of them is a god, neither Zeus nor Hera nor Aidoneus; for their constitution and origin come from matter separated out by God: “Fire and water and earth and the gentle height of air, and love together with them.” Since these cannot remain without love, but are thrown into confusion by strife, how could anyone say that they are gods? According to Empedocles love is the ruling principle and the compounds are ruled, and the ruling principle is master; so that if we suppose that the ruled and the ruler have one and the same power, we shall unwittingly make perishable, fluid, and changeable matter equal in honor to God, who is uncreated, eternal, and always consistent with himself. According to the Stoics, Zeus is the seething (ζέουσα) substance, Hera is the air (ἀήρ), as the name shows if it is joined to itself and pronounced continuously, and Poseidon is drink (πόσις). Others explain nature in other ways: some say that Zeus is air of a double nature, male and female; others that he is the season that turns the weather to mildness, which is why he alone escaped Kronos. But to the Stoics one may say: if you consider the supreme God to be one, uncreated and eternal, and the compounds to be changes of matter, and you say that the spirit of God, pervading matter, takes different names according to its variations, then the forms of matter will be the body of God; and when the elements perish in the conflagration, the names must perish together with the forms, and only the spirit of God will remain. Who, then, would believe that bodies whose material variation is perishable are gods? There are those who say that Kronos is time (χρόνος) and Rhea the earth: she conceives by Kronos and gives birth, and so she is considered the mother of all; he begets and consumes. The castration, they say, is the intercourse of male with female, which cuts off and casts seed into the womb and begets a human being who has desire, that is, Aphrodite, within himself; the madness of Kronos is the turning of the seasons, which destroys things animate and inanimate; and the bonds and Tartarus are time, changed by the seasons and vanishing from sight. To these we say: if Kronos is time, he changes; if a season, he turns; if darkness or frost or moist substance, none of these remains. But the divine is immortal, unmoved, and unchangeable; so neither Kronos nor his image is a god. As for Zeus, if he is air born from Kronos, whose male part is Zeus and female part Hera (which is why she is both his sister and his wife), he is subject to change; if a season, he turns; but the divine neither changes nor falls away. Why should I trouble you by saying more? You know better what each of the natural philosophers has said, what the writers on nature have thought, what they say about Athena, whom they call wisdom pervading all things, about Isis, whom they call the nature of the ages, from whom all things have sprung and through whom all things exist, or about Osiris, who was slain by his brother Typhon, and whose limbs Isis sought with her son Horus, and when she had found them prepared them for burial, a burial still called Osirian to this day. Turning up and down among the forms of matter, they fall away from God, who is contemplated by reason; they deify the elements and their parts, giving them now one name and now another: the sowing of grain they call Osiris (hence, they say, in the mysteries it was said to Isis at the finding of the limbs, or of the crops, “We have found, we rejoice together!”), the fruit of the vine Dionysus, the vine itself Semele, and the heat of the sun the thunderbolt. And yet those who turn the myths into gods do anything but theology, not realizing that by their very defense of the gods they confirm the charges against them. What have Europa and the Bull, the Swan and Leda, to do with earth and air, that Zeus's foul union with them should be the union of earth and air? But falling short of the greatness of God and unable to rise above it by reason (for they have no affinity with the heavenly place), they have melted away into the forms of matter, and in their fall deify the changes of the elements; as if someone were to take the ship in which he sailed for the pilot. But just as a ship, however well equipped, is of no use without its pilot, so the elements, however well ordered, are of no use without the providence of God. For the ship will not sail by itself, and the elements will not move without their Maker.

Notes and citation

Summary: Allegorical explanations of the gods as elements or seasons fail: elements and seasons change, while God is unchangeable; the elements need their Maker as a ship needs its pilot.

  • Empedocles, fragments 6 and 17 (Diels–Kranz).
  • “And the compounds to be changes of matter” follows the likely sense of a damaged phrase.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (accent: grave on ἂν before a following word; accent: grave on ἃ before a following word): πῶς ἄν οὖν εἴποι → πῶς ἂν οὖν εἴποι; τίς ἄν ταῦτα πιστεύσαι → τίς ἂν ταῦτα πιστεύσαι; ἢ ἅ περὶ τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς → ἢ ἃ περὶ τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς.

Extrabiblical texts: Empedocles (Empedocles (fragments); quotation)

Topics: Paganism, Philosophy

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 22 (Otto 7:104–116; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/22).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 23

23Otto 7:116–122

Εἴποιτε ἂν οὖν συνέσει πάντας ὑπερέχοντες· Τίνι οὖν τῷ λόγῳ ἔνια τῶν εἰδώλων ἐνεργεῖ, εἰ μή εἰσι θεοὶ ἐφʼ οἷς ἱδρυόμεθα τὰ ἀγάλματα; Οὐ γὰρ εἰκὸς τὰς ἀψύχους καὶ ἀκινήτους εἰκόνας καθʼ ἑαυτὰς ἰσχύειν χωρὶς τοῦ κινοῦντος. Τὸ μὲν δὴ κατὰ τόπους καὶ πόλεις καὶ ἔθνη γίνεσθαί τινας ἐπʼ ὀνόματι εἰδώλων ἐνεργείας οὐδʼ ἡμεῖς ἀντιλέγομεν· οὐ μήν, εἰ ὠφελήθησάν τινες καὶ αὖ ἐλυπήθησαν ἕτεροι, θεοὺς νομιοῦμεν τοὺς ἐφʼ ἑκάτερα ἐνεργήσαντας. Ἀλλὰ καὶ ᾧ λόγῳ νομίζετε ἰσχύειν τὰ εἴδωλα, καὶ τίνες οἱ ἐνεργοῦντες, ἐπιβατεύοντες αὐτῶν τοῖς ὀνόμασιν, ἐπʼ ἀκριβὲς ἐξητάκαμεν. Ἀναγκαῖον δέ μοι, μέλλοντι δεικνύειν τίνες οἱ ἐπὶ τοῖς εἰδώλοις ἐνεργοῦντες καὶ ὅτι μὴ θεοί, προσχρήσασθαί τισι καὶ τῶν ἀπὸ φιλοσοφίας μάρτυσι. Πρῶτος Θαλῆς διαιρεῖ, ὡς οἱ τὰ ἐκείνου ἀκριβοῦντες μνημονεύουσιν, εἰς θεόν, εἰς δαίμονας, εἰς ἥρωας. Ἀλλὰ θεὸν μὲν τὸν νοῦν τοῦ κόσμου ἄγει, δαίμονας δὲ οὐσίας νοεῖ ψυχικάς, καὶ ἥρωας τὰς κεχωρισμένας ψυχὰς τῶν ἀνθρώπων, ἀγαθοὺς μὲν τὰς ἀγαθάς, κακοὺς δὲ τὰς φαύλας. Πλάτων δέ, τὰ ἄλλα ἐπέχων, καὶ αὐτὸς εἴς τε τὸν ἀγένητον θεὸν καὶ τοὺς ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀγενήτου εἰς κόσμον τοῦ οὐρανοῦ γεγονότας, τούς τε πλάνητας καὶ τοὺς ἀπλανεῖς ἀστέρας, καὶ εἰς δαίμονας τέμνει· περὶ ὧν δαιμόνων αὐτὸς ἀπαξιῶν λέγειν τοῖς περὶ αὐτῶν εἰρηκόσιν προσέχειν ἀξιοῖ. Περὶ δὲ τῶν ἄλλων δαιμόνων εἰπεῖν καὶ γνῶναι τὴν γένεσιν μεῖζον ἢ καθʼ ἡμᾶς, πειστέον δὲ τοῖς εἰρηκόσιν ἔμπροσθεν, ἐγγόνοις μὲν θεῶν οὖσιν ὡς ἔφασαν, σαφῶς γέ που τοὺς ἑαυτῶν προγόνους εἰδότων· ἀδύνατον οὖν θεῶν παισὶν ἀπιστεῖν, κἄνπερ ἄνευ εἰκότων καὶ ἀναγκαίων ἀποδείξεων λέγωσιν, ἀλλὰ ὡς οἰκεῖα φασκόντων ἀπαγγέλλειν ἑπομένους τῷ νόμῳ πιστευτέον. Οὕτως οὖν κατʼ ἐκείνους καὶ ἡμῖν ἡ γένεσις περὶ αὐτῶν τῶν θεῶν ἐχέτω καὶ λεγέσθω. Γῆς τε καὶ Οὐρανοῦ παῖδες Ὠκεανός τε καὶ Τηθὺς ἐγεννήθησαν, τούτων δὲ Φόρκος Κρόνος τε καὶ Ῥέα καὶ ὅσοι μετὰ τούτων, ἐκ δὲ Κρόνου τε καὶ Ῥέας Ζεὺς Ἥρα τε καὶ πάντες, οὓς ἴσμεν πάντας ἀδελφοὺς λεγομένους αὐτῶν, ἔτι τε τούτων ἄλλους ἐκγόνους. Ἆρʼ οὖν ὁ τὸν ἀΐδιον νοῦν καὶ λόγῳ καταλαμβανόμενον περινοήσας θεὸν καὶ τὰ ἐπισυμβεβηκότα αὐτῷ ἐξειπών, τὸ ὄντως ὄν, τὸ μονοφυές, τὸ ἀγαθὸν ἀπʼ αὐτοῦ ἀποχεόμενον, ὅπερ ἐστὶν ἀλήθεια, καὶ περὶ πρώτης δυνάμεως, καὶ ὡς περὶ τὸν πάντων βασιλέα πάντα ἐστὶ καὶ ἐκείνου ἕνεκεν πάντα, καὶ ἐκεῖνο αἴτιον πάντων, καὶ περὶ δύο καὶ τρία, δεύτερον δὲ περὶ τὰ δεύτερα, καὶ τρίτον περὶ τὰ τρίτα, περὶ τῶν ἐκ τῶν αἰσθητῶν γῆς τε καὶ οὐρανοῦ λεγομένων γεγονέναι μεῖζον ἢ καθʼ ἑαυτὸν τἀληθὲς μαθεῖν ἐνόμισεν; Ἦ οὐκ ἔστιν εἰπεῖν. Ἀλλʼ ἐπεὶ ἀδύνατον γεννᾶν καὶ ἀποκυΐσκεσθαι θεοὺς ἐνόμισεν, ἑπομένων τοῖς γινομένοις τελῶν, καί, τὸ τούτου ἀδυνατώτερον, μεταπεῖσαι τοὺς πολλοὺς ἀβασανίστως τοὺς μύθους παραδεχομένους, διὰ ταῦτα μεῖζον ἢ καθʼ ἑαυτὸν γνῶναι καὶ εἰπεῖν ἔφη περὶ τῆς τῶν ἄλλων δαιμόνων γενέσεως, οὔτε μαθεῖν οὔτε ἐξειπεῖν γεννᾶσθαι θεοὺς δυνάμενος. Καὶ τὸ εἰρημένον αὐτῷ· Ὁ δὴ μέγας ἡγεμὼν ἐν οὐρανῷ Ζεύς, ἐλαύνων πτηνὸν ἅρμα, πρῶτος πορεύεται διακοσμῶν πάντα καὶ ἐπιμελούμενος, τῷ δὲ ἕπεται στρατιὰ θεῶν τε καὶ δαιμόνων· οὐκ ἐπὶ τοῦ ἀπὸ Κρόνου λεγομένου ἔχει Διός. Ἔστι γὰρ ἐν τούτῳ ὄνομα τῷ ποιητῇ τῶν ὅλων. Δηλοῖ δὲ καὶ αὐτὸς ὁ Πλάτων· ἑτέρῳ σημαντικῷ προσειπεῖν αὐτὸν οὐκ ἔχων τῷ δημώδει ὀνόματι, οὐχ ὡς ἰδίῳ τοῦ θεοῦ ἀλλʼ εἰς σαφήνειαν, ὅτι μὴ δυνατὸν εἰς πάντας φέρειν κατὰ δύναμιν τὸν θεόν, προσεχρήσατο, ἐπικατηγορήσας τὸ μέγας, ἵνα διαστείλῃ τὸν οὐράνιον ἀπὸ τοῦ χαμᾶθεν, τὸν ἀγένητον ἀπὸ τοῦ γενητοῦ, τοῦ νεωτέρου μὲν οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς, νεωτέρου δὲ Κρητῶν, οἳ ἐξέκλεψαν αὐτὸν μὴ ἀναιρεθῆναι ὑπὸ τοῦ πατρός.

Eipoite an oun synesei pantas hyperechontes; Tini oun tǭ logǭ enia tōn eidōlōn energei, ei mē eisi theoi ephʼ hois hidryometha ta agalmata? Ou gar eikos tas apsychous kai akinētous eikonas kathʼ heautas ischyein chōris tou kinountos. To men dē kata topous kai poleis kai ethnē ginesthai tinas epʼ onomati eidōlōn energeias oudʼ hēmeis antilegomen; ou mēn, ei ōphelēthēsan tines kai au elypēthēsan heteroi, theous nomioumen tous ephʼ hekatera energēsantas. Alla kai hǭ logǭ nomizete ischyein ta eidōla, kai tines hoi energountes, epibateuontes autōn tois onomasin, epʼ akribes exētakamen. Anankaion de moi, mellonti deiknyein tines hoi epi tois eidōlois energountes kai hoti mē theoi, proschrēsasthai tisi kai tōn apo philosophias martysi. Prōtos Thalēs diairei, hōs hoi ta ekeinou akribountes mnēmoneuousin, eis theon, eis daimonas, eis hērōas. Alla theon men ton noun tou kosmou agei, daimonas de ousias noei psychikas, kai hērōas tas kechōrismenas psychas tōn anthrōpōn, agathous men tas agathas, kakous de tas phaulas. Platōn de, ta alla epechōn, kai autos eis te ton agenēton theon kai tous hypo tou agenētou eis kosmon tou ouranou gegonotas, tous te planētas kai tous aplaneis asteras, kai eis daimonas temnei; peri hōn daimonōn autos apaxiōn legein tois peri autōn eirēkosin prosechein axioi. Peri de tōn allōn daimonōn eipein kai gnōnai tēn genesin meizon ē kathʼ hēmas, peisteon de tois eirēkosin emprosthen, engonois men theōn ousin hōs ephasan, saphōs ge pou tous heautōn progonous eidotōn; adynaton oun theōn paisin apistein, kanper aneu eikotōn kai anankaiōn apodeixeōn legōsin, alla hōs oikeia phaskontōn apangellein hepomenous tǭ nomǭ pisteuteon. Houtōs oun katʼ ekeinous kai hēmin hē genesis peri autōn tōn theōn echetō kai legesthō. Gēs te kai Ouranou paides Ōkeanos te kai Tēthys egennēthēsan, toutōn de Phorkos Kronos te kai Rhea kai hosoi meta toutōn, ek de Kronou te kai Rheas Zeus Hēra te kai pantes, hous ismen pantas adelphous legomenous autōn, eti te toutōn allous ekgonous. Arʼ oun ho ton aïdion noun kai logǭ katalambanomenon perinoēsas theon kai ta episymbebēkota autǭ exeipōn, to ontōs on, to monophyes, to agathon apʼ autou apocheomenon, hoper estin alētheia, kai peri prōtēs dynameōs, kai hōs peri ton pantōn basilea panta esti kai ekeinou heneken panta, kai ekeino aition pantōn, kai peri dyo kai tria, deuteron de peri ta deutera, kai triton peri ta trita, peri tōn ek tōn aisthētōn gēs te kai ouranou legomenōn gegonenai meizon ē kathʼ heauton talēthes mathein enomisen? Ē ouk estin eipein. Allʼ epei adynaton gennan kai apokyïskesthai theous enomisen, hepomenōn tois ginomenois telōn, kai, to toutou adynatōteron, metapeisai tous pollous abasanistōs tous mythous paradechomenous, dia tauta meizon ē kathʼ heauton gnōnai kai eipein ephē peri tēs tōn allōn daimonōn geneseōs, oute mathein oute exeipein gennasthai theous dynamenos. Kai to eirēmenon autǭ; Ho dē megas hēgemōn en ouranǭ Zeus, elaunōn ptēnon harma, prōtos poreuetai diakosmōn panta kai epimeloumenos, tǭ de hepetai stratia theōn te kai daimonōn; ouk epi tou apo Kronou legomenou echei Dios. Esti gar en toutǭ onoma tǭ poiētę̄ tōn holōn. Dēloi de kai autos ho Platōn; heterǭ sēmantikǭ proseipein auton ouk echōn tǭ dēmōdei onomati, ouch hōs idiǭ tou theou allʼ eis saphēneian, hoti mē dynaton eis pantas pherein kata dynamin ton theon, prosechrēsato, epikatēgorēsas to megas, hina diasteilę̄ ton ouranion apo tou chamathen, ton agenēton apo tou genētou, tou neōterou men ouranou kai gēs, neōterou de Krētōn, hoi exeklepsan auton mē anairethēnai hypo tou patros.

You who surpass everyone in understanding might say: “Why, then, do some of the idols work, if those for whom we set up the statues are not gods? It is not likely that lifeless and motionless images have power by themselves, without something to move them.” That in certain places, cities, and nations some effects are produced in the name of idols, we too do not deny. But if some people have been helped and others harmed, we will not for that reason consider gods those who produced the effects in either case. We have examined precisely both why you think the idols have power, and who they are that produce the effects, trading on the idols' names. As I am about to show who works through the idols, and that they are not gods, I must call on some witnesses from philosophy as well. Thales first divides beings, as those who have studied him closely record, into God, demons, and heroes. By God he means the mind of the world; by demons he understands beings of the nature of soul; and by heroes the separated souls of human beings, the good heroes being good souls and the bad ones evil souls. Plato, suspending judgment on other matters, also divides them into the uncreated God, those made by the uncreated God to adorn the heaven, namely the planets and the fixed stars, and demons. About these demons he himself declines to speak, but thinks it right to heed those who have spoken of them: “To speak about the other demons and to know their origin is beyond us; but we must believe those who have spoken before, who were, as they said, offspring of the gods, and who surely knew their own ancestors. It is impossible, then, to disbelieve the children of gods, even if they speak without plausible or necessary proofs; since they claim to be reporting family matters, we must follow custom and believe them. So, then, according to them, let the origin of these gods be held and told as follows: of Earth and Heaven were born Ocean and Tethys; of these Phorcys, Kronos, and Rhea, and those with them; of Kronos and Rhea, Zeus and Hera and all those whom we know to be called their brothers and sisters, and further others, their descendants.” Now Plato conceived of the eternal Mind and of God grasped by reason, and declared his attributes: true being, the single nature, the good flowing from him, which is truth; he spoke of the first power, and said that “all things are about the King of all, and all things are for his sake, and he is the cause of all,” and of the second and the third: “the second about the second things, and the third about the third.” Did such a man think it beyond him to learn the truth about beings said to have come from perceptible things, earth and heaven? It cannot be said. But because he thought it impossible for gods to beget and be born, since an end follows whatever comes into being, and, what is even more impossible, to change the minds of the many, who accept the myths without examining them, for these reasons he said that it was beyond him to know and to speak of the origin of the other demons, since he could neither learn nor declare that gods are begotten. And his saying, “The great leader in heaven, Zeus, driving a winged chariot, goes first, ordering all things and caring for them, and there follows him a host of gods and demons,” does not refer to the Zeus said to be born of Kronos. Here the name belongs to the Maker of all things. Plato himself makes this clear: having no other name to signify him, he used the popular name, not as proper to God but for the sake of clarity, since it is not possible to present God to everyone as he really is; and he added the word “great” to distinguish the heavenly from the earthly, the uncreated from the created, who is younger than heaven and earth, and younger than the Cretans, who stole him away so that he would not be killed by his father.

Notes and citation

Summary: The effects produced through idols are real but come from demons, not gods; Plato himself distinguished the uncreated God from the created gods of myth.

  • Plato, Timaeus 40d–41a; Second Letter 312e (“all things are about the King of all … the second about the second things”); Phaedrus 246e (“the great leader in heaven, Zeus”).
  • The Second Letter's triad was read by early Christians as a hint of the Trinity; Athenagoras quotes it without drawing that conclusion explicitly.

Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 40d–41a (Plato (works); quotation); Plato, Ep. 2 312e (Plato (works); quotation); Plato, Phaedr. 246e (Plato (works); quotation)

Topics: Idolatry, The devil and demons

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 23 (Otto 7:116–122; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/23).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 24

24Otto 7:122–130

Τί δαὶ δεῖ πρὸς ὑμᾶς πάντα λόγον κεκινηκότας ἢ ποιητῶν μνημονεύειν ἢ καὶ ἑτέρας δόξας ἐξετάζειν, τοσοῦτον εἰπεῖν ἔχοντι· Εἰ μὴ καὶ ποιηταὶ καὶ φιλόσοφοι ἕνα μὲν εἶναι ἐπεγίνωσκον θεόν, περὶ δὲ τούτων οἱ μὲν ὡς περὶ δαιμόνων, οἱ δὲ ὡς περὶ ὕλης, οἱ δὲ ὡς περὶ ἀνθρώπων γενομένων ἐφρόνουν, ἡμεῖς γε ἂν εἰκότως ἐξενηλατούμεθα, διαιρετικῷ λόγῳ καὶ περὶ θεοῦ καὶ ὕλης καὶ περὶ τῆς τούτων αὐτῶν οὐσίας κεχρημένοι; Ὡς γὰρ θεόν φαμεν καὶ υἱὸν τὸν λόγον αὐτοῦ καὶ πνεῦμα ἅγιον, ἑνούμενα μὲν κατὰ δύναμιν τὸν πατέρα τὸν υἱὸν τὸ πνεῦμα, ὅτι νοῦς λόγος σοφία ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ πατρός, καὶ ἀπόῤῥοια ὡς φῶς ἀπὸ πυρὸς τὸ πνεῦμα, οὕτως καὶ ἑτέρας εἶναι δυνάμεις κατειλήμμεθα περὶ τὴν ὕλην ἀρχούσας καὶ διʼ αὐτῆς, μίαν μὲν τὴν ἀντίθεον, οὐχ ὅτι ἀντιδοξοῦν τί ἐστι τῷ θεῷ, ὡς τῇ φιλίᾳ τὸ νεῖκος κατὰ τὸν Ἐμπεδοκλέα καὶ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ νὺξ κατὰ τὰ φαινόμενα (ἐπεὶ κἂν εἰ ἀνθειστήκει τι τῷ θεῷ ἐπαύσατο τοῦ εἶναι, λυθείσης αὐτοῦ τῇ τοῦ θεοῦ δυνάμει καὶ ἰσχύϊ τῆς συστάσεως), ἀλλʼ ὅτι τῷ τοῦ θεοῦ ἀγαθῷ, ὃ κατὰ συμβεβηκός ἐστιν αὐτῷ καὶ συνυπάρχον, ὡς χρόα σώματι, οὗ ἄνευ οὐκ ἔστιν (οὐχ ὡς μέρους ὄντος, ἀλλʼ ὡς κατʼ ἀνάγκην συνόντος παρακολουθήματος, ἡνωμένου καὶ συγκεχρωσμένου, ὡς τῷ πυρὶ ξανθῷ εἶναι καὶ τῷ αἰθέρι κυανῷ), ἐναντίον ἐστὶ τὸ περὶ τὴν ὕλην ἔχον πνεῦμα, γενόμενον μὲν ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ, καθὸ οἱ λοιποὶ ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ γεγόνασιν ἄγγελοι, καὶ τὴν ἐπὶ τῇ ὕλῃ καὶ τοῖς τῆς ὕλης εἴδεσι πιστευσάμενον διοίκησιν. Τοῦτο γὰρ ἡ τῶν ἀγγέλων σύστασις, τῷ θεῷ ἐπὶ προνοίᾳ γεγονέναι τοῖς ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ διακεκοσμημένοις, ἵνα τὴν μὲν παντελικὴν καὶ γενικὴν ὁ θεὸς ἔχῃ τῶν ὅλων πρόνοιαν, τὴν δὲ ἐπὶ μέρους οἱ ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς ταχθέντες ἄγγελοι. Ὡς δὴ καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν ἀνθρώπων, αὐθαίρετον καὶ τὴν ἀρετὴν καὶ τὴν κακίαν ἐχόντων (ἐπεὶ οὐκ ἂν οὔτʼ ἐτιμᾶτε τοὺς ἀγαθοὺς οὔτʼ ἐκολάζετε τοὺς πονηρούς, εἰ μὴ ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς ἦν καὶ ἡ κακία καὶ ἡ ἀρετή· καὶ οἱ μὲν σπουδαῖοι περὶ ἃ πιστεύονται ὑφʼ ὑμῶν, οἱ δὲ ἄπιστοι εὑρίσκονται), καὶ τὸ κατὰ τοὺς ἀγγέλους ἐν ὁμοίῳ καθέστηκεν. Οἱ μὲν γὰρ ἄλλοι, αὐθαίρετοι δὴ οἷοι γεγόνασιν ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ, ἔμειναν ἐφʼ οἷς αὐτοὺς ἐποίησεν καὶ διέταξεν ὁ θεός, οἱ δὲ ἐνύβρισαν καὶ τῇ τῆς οὐσίας ὑποστάσει καὶ τῇ ἀρχῇ, οὗτός τε ὁ τῆς ὕλης καὶ τῶν ἐν αὐτῇ εἰδῶν ἄρχων καὶ ἕτεροι τῶν περὶ τὸ πρῶτον τοῦτο στερέωμα, (ἴστε δὲ μηδὲν ἡμᾶς ἀμάρτυρον λέγειν, ἃ δὲ τοῖς προφήταις ἐκπεφώνηται μηνύειν) ἐκεῖνοι μὲν εἰς ἐπιθυμίαν πεσόντες παρθένων καὶ ἥττους σαρκὸς εὑρεθέντες, οὗτος δὲ ἀμελήσας καὶ πονηρὸς περὶ τὴν τῶν πεπιστευμένων γενόμενος διοίκησιν. Ἐκ μὲν οὖν τῶν περὶ τὰς παρθένους ἐχόντων οἱ καλούμενοι ἐγεννήθησαν γίγαντες. Εἰ δέ τις ἐκ μέρους εἴρηται περὶ τῶν γιγάντων καὶ ποιηταῖς λόγος, μὴ θαυμάσητε, τῆς κοσμικῆς σοφίας καὶ θεολογικῆς ὅσον ἀλήθεια πιθανοῦ διαφέρει διαλλαττουσῶν, καὶ τῆς μὲν οὔσης ἐπουρανίου, τῆς δὲ ἐπιγείου· καὶ κατὰ τὸν ἄρχοντα τῆς ὕλης Ἴσμεν ψεύδεα πολλὰ λέγειν ἐτύμοισιν ὁμοῖα.

Ti dai dei pros hymas panta logon kekinēkotas ē poiētōn mnēmoneuein ē kai heteras doxas exetazein, tosouton eipein echonti; Ei mē kai poiētai kai philosophoi hena men einai epeginōskon theon, peri de toutōn hoi men hōs peri daimonōn, hoi de hōs peri hylēs, hoi de hōs peri anthrōpōn genomenōn ephronoun, hēmeis ge an eikotōs exenēlatoumetha, diairetikǭ logǭ kai peri theou kai hylēs kai peri tēs toutōn autōn ousias kechrēmenoi? Hōs gar theon phamen kai huion ton logon autou kai pneuma hagion, henoumena men kata dynamin ton patera ton huion to pneuma, hoti nous logos sophia ho huios tou patros, kai aporrhoia hōs phōs apo pyros to pneuma, houtōs kai heteras einai dynameis kateilēmmetha peri tēn hylēn archousas kai diʼ autēs, mian men tēn antitheon, ouch hoti antidoxoun ti esti tǭ theǭ, hōs tę̄ philią to neikos kata ton Empedoklea kai tę̄ hēmerą nyx kata ta phainomena (epei kan ei antheistēkei ti tǭ theǭ epausato tou einai, lytheisēs autou tę̄ tou theou dynamei kai ischyï tēs systaseōs), allʼ hoti tǭ tou theou agathǭ, ho kata symbebēkos estin autǭ kai synyparchon, hōs chroa sōmati, hou aneu ouk estin (ouch hōs merous ontos, allʼ hōs katʼ anankēn synontos parakolouthēmatos, hēnōmenou kai synkechrōsmenou, hōs tǭ pyri xanthǭ einai kai tǭ aitheri kyanǭ), enantion esti to peri tēn hylēn echon pneuma, genomenon men hypo tou theou, katho hoi loipoi hypʼ autou gegonasin angeloi, kai tēn epi tę̄ hylę̄ kai tois tēs hylēs eidesi pisteusamenon dioikēsin. Touto gar hē tōn angelōn systasis, tǭ theǭ epi pronoią gegonenai tois hypʼ autou diakekosmēmenois, hina tēn men pantelikēn kai genikēn ho theos echę̄ tōn holōn pronoian, tēn de epi merous hoi epʼ autois tachthentes angeloi. Hōs dē kai epi tōn anthrōpōn, authaireton kai tēn aretēn kai tēn kakian echontōn (epei ouk an outʼ etimate tous agathous outʼ ekolazete tous ponērous, ei mē epʼ autois ēn kai hē kakia kai hē aretē; kai hoi men spoudaioi peri ha pisteuontai hyphʼ hymōn, hoi de apistoi heuriskontai), kai to kata tous angelous en homoiǭ kathestēken. Hoi men gar alloi, authairetoi dē hoioi gegonasin hypo tou theou, emeinan ephʼ hois autous epoiēsen kai dietaxen ho theos, hoi de enybrisan kai tę̄ tēs ousias hypostasei kai tę̄ archę̄, houtos te ho tēs hylēs kai tōn en autę̄ eidōn archōn kai heteroi tōn peri to prōton touto stereōma, (iste de mēden hēmas amartyron legein, ha de tois prophētais ekpephōnētai mēnyein) ekeinoi men eis epithymian pesontes parthenōn kai hēttous sarkos heurethentes, houtos de amelēsas kai ponēros peri tēn tōn pepisteumenōn genomenos dioikēsin. Ek men oun tōn peri tas parthenous echontōn hoi kaloumenoi egennēthēsan gigantes. Ei de tis ek merous eirētai peri tōn gigantōn kai poiētais logos, mē thaumasēte, tēs kosmikēs sophias kai theologikēs hoson alētheia pithanou diapherei diallattousōn, kai tēs men ousēs epouraniou, tēs de epigeiou; kai kata ton archonta tēs hylēs Ismen pseudea polla legein etymoisin homoia.

Why need I mention the poets, or examine other opinions, before you who have explored every branch of learning? It is enough to say this much. If the poets and philosophers did not acknowledge that God is one, and did not think of these other beings, some as demons, some as matter, and some as having been human beings, then we might with reason be driven out, since we use a reasoning that distinguishes God from matter and from their substances. For just as we say that there is God, and the Son, his Word, and the Holy Spirit, united in power, the Father, the Son, the Spirit, because the Son is the mind, word, and wisdom of the Father, and the Spirit an effluence, as light from fire; so we have come to understand that there are also other powers, which are concerned with matter and act through it. One of these is hostile to God: not because there is anything that stands opposed to God as strife opposes love in Empedocles, or as night opposes day in the visible world (for if anything had set itself against God, it would have ceased to exist, its constitution dissolved by the power and might of God), but because the spirit that is concerned with matter is opposed to the goodness of God. That goodness is an attribute of God and coexists with him, as color with a body, without which the body does not exist (not as though it were a part of him, but as a property that necessarily accompanies him, united and blended with him, as yellow belongs to fire and blue to the sky). This spirit was made by God, just as the other angels were made by him, and was entrusted with the governance of matter and of the forms of matter. For this is why the angels were constituted: they were made by God to exercise providence over the things he had ordered, so that God might have the universal and general providence over all things, and the angels appointed over particular things the providence over them. With human beings, virtue and vice are a matter of free choice (for you would neither honor the good nor punish the wicked unless vice and virtue were in their own power; and some are found diligent in the tasks you entrust to them, others unfaithful); and it is the same with the angels. Some, being free, as God had made them, remained in the tasks for which God made and appointed them; but others outraged both the constitution of their nature and their office. Among these were this ruler of matter and of the forms in it, and others of those placed around this first firmament (you know that we say nothing without witnesses, but declare what the prophets have spoken). These others fell into desire for virgins and were found weaker than the flesh; and he became negligent and wicked in the governance of what had been entrusted to him. From those who went after the virgins were born the so-called giants. And if the poets too tell a partial story about the giants, do not be surprised. Worldly wisdom and divine wisdom differ as truth differs from plausibility, the one being heavenly and the other earthly; and, as the ruler of matter puts it, “We know how to tell many lies that resemble the truth.”

Gen 6:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 6:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Jude 1:6 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: As there are Father, Son, and Spirit, so there are angels; some angels fell, among them the ruler of matter and those who lusted after women and fathered the giants.

  • A second trinitarian formula: “God, and the Son, his Word, and the Holy Spirit, united in power … the Spirit an effluence, as light from fire” (cf. ch. 10).
  • The angels who desired “virgins” and fathered the giants are the “sons of God” of Gen 6:1–4, as developed in 1 Enoch 6–7, which Athenagoras counts among “the prophets.”
  • The closing line is Hesiod, Theogony 27, spoken there by the Muses; Athenagoras puts it in the mouth of the ruler of matter.

Extrabiblical texts: 1 En. 6–7 (1 Enoch [in the ETH canon]; allusion); Hesiod, Theog. 27 (Hesiod, Theogony; quotation)

Topics: Trinity, Angels, The devil and demons

Cite (SBL): Athenagoras, Leg. 24 (Otto 7:122–130; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/athenagoras-legatio/24).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.