Eranistes (The Beggar), or Polymorphus 2.34–2.41
Greek text: PG 83.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 2
2.34PG 83
φύσεως εἰπεῖν ἐπεχείρησαν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Καὶ οὖὗτος δέ μοι συνεχῶς τῆς ἐν Νικαίᾳ συνόδου ἑαυτὸν κατέχειν τὴν ἔκθεσιν" ἀλλ᾽ ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ἐξετάσει οἱ ἡμέτεροι Πατέρες, οὐκὶ τὴν σάρκα, τὸν δὲ τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγον, ἐκ μιᾶς σὺν τῷ Πατρὶ οὐτίας εἶναι εἰρήκασι. Καὶ τὸν μὲν Λόγον ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Πατρὸς προσεληλυθέναι οὐσίας, τὴν δὲ σάρκα ἐκ τῆς Παρθένου τυγχάνειν ὡμολογήχασι. Διὰ τί τοΐνυν ἡμῖν τὸ μὲν τῆς ἐν Νικαίᾳ προτείνουσιν ὄνομα, εἰσάγουσι δὲ καινὰ, καὶ ἅπερ οὐκ ἐνεθύμησαν οἱ ἡμέτεροι πρόγονοι; --- Υοῦ αὐτοῦ, κατὰ ᾿Απολιναρίου. Μῆτε σὺ θέλε τοίνυν κατὰ φύσιν ἴσον τῆς θεότητος εἶναι τὸ σῶμα. Κἂν γὰρ πιστεύσῃς ὡς; ἀληθὲς εἴη τὸ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ, καὶ προσχομίσῃς τῷ θυσιαστηρίῳ πρὸς μεταποίησιν, μὴ διαστίξῃς δὲ τὴν τοῦ σώματος καὶ τῆς θεότησος φύσιν, ἐροῦμεν καὶ σοὶ, « ᾿Βὰν ὀρθῶς προσενέγκῃς, ὀρθῶς δὲ μὴ διέλης, ἥμαρτες, ἡσύχασον. ν Δίελε γὰρ τόγε ὑπάρχον ἡμῶν, καὶ ὅπερ οἰκεῖον τοῦ Λόγου. Οὐκοῦν ἐγὼ μὲν οὐκ εἶχον ὅπερ ὑπῆρχεν αὐτοῦ" ἐκεῖνος δὲ οὐκ εἶχεν ὅπερ ὑπῆρχεν ἐμόν. Καὶ ἔλαδεν ὅπερ ὑπῆρχεν ἐμὸν, μεταδώσων τῶν οἰκείων ἡμῖν" καὶ τοῦτο πρὸς ἀναπλήρωσιν οὐ σύγχυσιν ἀνεδέξατο. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, μετ᾽ Παυσάσθωσαν τοίνυν οἱ λέγοντες ὡς ἣ τοῦ Λόγου φύσις εἰς σαρκὺς μεταδέδληται φύσιν" ἵνα μὴ δόξῃ μεταδληθεῖσα κατὰ τὴν αὐτὴν ἑρμηνείαν γεγενῆσθαι καὶ ἡ τοῦ Λόγον φύσις τοῖς τοῦ σώματος παθήμασι σύμφθορος. Ἕτερον γάρ ἔστι τὸ προσλαδὸν, καὶ ἕτερόν ἐστι τὸ προσληφθέν. Δύναμις ἦλθεν ἐπὶ τὴν Παρθένον, ὡς ὁ ἄγγελος πρὸς αὐτὴν λέγει, ε« Ὅτι δύναμις ὙΨίστου ἐπισκιάσει σοι. ν ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐκ τοῦ σώματος ἣν τῆς Παρθένου τὸ τεχθέν " καὶ διὰ τοῦτο, θεία μὲν ἣ χατάθδασις, ἡ δὲ σύλληψις ἀνθρωπίνη. Οὐκ αὐτὴ οὖν ἠδύνατο τοῦ τε (δύ) σώματος πνεῦμα, καὶ τῆς θεότητος φύσις. Ο. τοῦ ἁγίου Βασιλείου ἐπισκόπου Καισαρείας. Ἐκ τοῦ περὶ εὐχαριστίας «“όγου. Διόπερ ἐπιδαχρύσας τῷ φίλῳ, αὐτός γε τὴν κοινωνίαν τῆς ἀνθρω- “ἰνης φύσεως ἐπεδείξατο, καὶ ἡμᾶς τῶν ἐφ᾽ χίζεσθαι πρὸς τὰ πάθη, μήτε ἀναισθήτως ἔχειν τῶν λυπηρῶν ἐπιτρέπων. Ὡς οὖν κατεδέξατο τὴν πεῖναν ὁ Κύριος, τῆς στερεᾶς τροφῆς διαπνευσθείσης αὐτῷ, καὶ τὴν δίψαν προσήκατο, τῆς ὑγρότητος ἀναλωθείσης τῆς ἐν τῷ σώματι" καὶ ἐκοπίασε, τῶν μνῶν καὶ τῶν νεύρων ἐκ τῆς ὁδοιπορίας ὑπερταθέντων " οὐ τῆς θεότητος τῷ καμάτῳ πιεζομένης, ἀλλὰ τοῦ σώματος τὰ ἐκ τῆς φύσεως ἐπαχολουθοῦντα ματα δεχομένου " οὕτω καὶ τὸ δάκρυον προσήκατο, τὸ φυσικὸν τῇ σαρκὶ ἐπιγίνεσθαι σύμπτωμα συγχω-
physeōs eipein epecheirēsan. --- Tou autou. Kai ouytos de moi synechōs tēs en Nikaią synodou heauton katechein tēn ekthesin" all᾽ en ekeinę̄ tę̄ exetasei hoi hēmeteroi Pateres, ouki tēn sarka, ton de tou Theou Logon, ek mias syn tǭ Patri outias einai eirēkasi. Kai ton men Logon ek tēs tou Patros proselēlythenai ousias, tēn de sarka ek tēs Parthenou tynchanein hōmologēchasi. Dia ti toïnyn hēmin to men tēs en Nikaią proteinousin onoma, eisagousi de kaina, kai haper ouk enethymēsan hoi hēmeteroi progonoi? --- You autou, kata ᾿Apolinariou. Mēte sy thele toinyn kata physin ison tēs theotētos einai to sōma. Kan gar pisteusę̄s hōs? alēthes eiē to sōma tou Christou, kai proschomisę̄s tǭ thysiastēriǭ pros metapoiēsin, mē diastixę̄s de tēn tou sōmatos kai tēs theotēsos physin, eroumen kai soi, « ᾿Ban orthōs prosenenkę̄s, orthōs de mē dielēs, hēmartes, hēsychason. n Diele gar toge hyparchon hēmōn, kai hoper oikeion tou Logou. Oukoun egō men ouk eichon hoper hypērchen autou" ekeinos de ouk eichen hoper hypērchen emon. Kai eladen hoper hypērchen emon, metadōsōn tōn oikeiōn hēmin" kai touto pros anaplērōsin ou synchysin anedexato. --- Tou autou, met᾽ Pausasthōsan toinyn hoi legontes hōs hē tou Logou physis eis sarkys metadedlētai physin" hina mē doxę̄ metadlētheisa kata tēn autēn hermēneian gegenēsthai kai hē tou Logon physis tois tou sōmatos pathēmasi symphthoros. Heteron gar esti to prosladon, kai heteron esti to proslēphthen. Dynamis ēlthen epi tēn Parthenon, hōs ho angelos pros autēn legei, e« Hoti dynamis HyPsistou episkiasei soi. n ᾿All᾽ ek tou sōmatos hēn tēs Parthenou to techthen " kai dia touto, theia men hē chatathdasis, hē de syllēpsis anthrōpinē. Ouk autē oun ēdynato tou te (dy) sōmatos pneuma, kai tēs theotētos physis. O. tou hagiou Basileiou episkopou Kaisareias. Ek tou peri eucharistias «“ogou. Dioper epidachrysas tǭ philǭ, autos ge tēn koinōnian tēs anthrō- “inēs physeōs epedeixato, kai hēmas tōn eph᾽ chizesthai pros ta pathē, mēte anaisthētōs echein tōn lypērōn epitrepōn. Hōs oun katedexato tēn peinan ho Kyrios, tēs stereas trophēs diapneustheisēs autǭ, kai tēn dipsan prosēkato, tēs hygrotētos analōtheisēs tēs en tǭ sōmati" kai ekopiase, tōn mnōn kai tōn neurōn ek tēs hodoiporias hypertathentōn " ou tēs theotētos tǭ kamatǭ piezomenēs, alla tou sōmatos ta ek tēs physeōs epacholouthounta mata dechomenou " houtō kai to dakryon prosēkato, to physikon tę̄ sarki epiginesthai symptōma synchō-
Of the same: “And this man too [claims] continually [to hold] the exposition of the synod at Nicaea; but in that examination our Fathers said that not the flesh, but the Word of God, is of one substance with the Father. And they confessed that the Word came forth from the substance of the Father, but that the flesh is from the Virgin. Why, then, do they hold out to us the name of Nicaea, yet bring in novelties which our forefathers never conceived?” Of the same, against Apollinarius: “Do not you, then, wish the body to be equal by nature to the Godhead. For even if you believe that the body of Christ is real, and bring it to the altar for transformation, but do not distinguish the nature of the body and of the Godhead, we will say to you too, ‘If you have offered rightly but not divided rightly, you have sinned; be still.’ Divide, then, what is ours and what is proper to the Word. I did not have what was his, and he did not have what was mine. And he took what was mine in order to give us a share of his own; and he took this up for fulfilment, not for confusion.” Of the same, a little later: “Let those, then, cease who say that the nature of the Word was changed into the nature of flesh, lest, having been changed, the nature of the Word should seem by the same interpretation to have become subject to corruption together with the sufferings of the body. For what took is one thing and what was taken is another. Power came upon the Virgin, as the angel says to her, ‘The power of the Most High will overshadow you.’ But what was born was from the body of the Virgin; and for this reason the descent was divine, but the conception human. The spirit of the body and the nature of the Godhead, then, could not be the same.” Of holy Basil, bishop of Caesarea. From the discourse on thanksgiving: “Therefore, by weeping over his friend, he showed his fellowship with human nature, and permitted us neither to … toward the sufferings nor to be insensible to griefs. As, then, the Lord accepted hunger when the solid food in him had been used up, and admitted thirst when the moisture in the body had been spent, and grew weary when the muscles and sinews were overstrained from the journey (not the Godhead being oppressed by fatigue, but the body receiving the [effects] that follow from nature), so too he admitted tears, allowing the symptom natural to the flesh to occur.”
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 4:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:35 (quotation, high confidence) · John 11:35 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 4:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:28 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 4:6 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Passages ascribed to Ambrose: the Nicene fathers called the Word, not the flesh, consubstantial with the Father; one must distinguish what is ours from what is the Word's. Basil: Christ's tears, hunger, thirst and weariness belong to his human nature.
- Florilegium. Quotations: further passages ascribed to Ambrose (On the Sacrament of the Lord's Incarnation, against Apollinarius; identification not checked in detail); Basil, Homily on Thanksgiving (on Christ's tears for Lazarus). 'Bring it to the altar for transformation' (προσκομίσῃς τῷ θυσιαστηρίῳ πρὸς μεταποίησιν) is translated as written. 'If you have offered rightly but not divided rightly, you have sinned; be still' is Gen 4:7 in the Septuagint. Migne's Latin column and his notes on variant readings, read as Greek letters, have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Gen 4:7 (LXX); Luke 1:35; John 11:35; Matt 4:2; John 19:28; John 4:6.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word; marginal references and Migne's notes on variant readings read into the text): 19. δὲ ἱπόδτῃ. 8δογδῃ)., ὁ. ά. 1 θη ιν, 7. 13 δὲ ἰποᾶγῃ. βδοῖδπι)., 6. 6. 33 [,υ(. 1, 0. ποᾶ. ἰῃ 56 πο. ]. ο. υἱ {ἃ ἀλλ᾽ ἐκ τοῦ σώματος Χ. τ. λ. Ροπίταγ ἃ Νοϑῖγο λά Ερἢ. ιν. 10. ΥἹά. 1. Π], ν. 424. τοῦ τε. Κἀ. Βοπι. οἱ [ρ5. τοῦτο, ἴῃ Γο υ 8 ἡ δύναμις τοῦ τε σώματος; πνεῦμα καὶ τῆς θεότ. φύσις. → ; ἀναλωθεί- 5ία, εἰ ἀοίλιϊραίιι 651 Ποενΐ8 ἃς σὴς → ἀναλωθείσης.
Topics: Christology, Heresy, Eucharist
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.34 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.35PG 83
ρῶν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ. εἰς τὸ κατὰ Εὐνομίου. Ἐγὼ γὰρ καὶ τὸ ἐν μορφῇ Θεοῦ ὑπάρχειν, ἴσον δύνασθαι τῷ ἐν οὐσίᾳ Θεοῦ ὑπάρχειν φημί. Ὡς γὰρ τὸ μορφὴν ἀνειληφέναι δούλου, ἐν τῇ οὐσίᾳ τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος τὸν Κύριον ἡμῶν γεγενῆσθαι σημαίνει, οὕτως λέγων ἐν μορφῇ Θεοῦ ὑπάρχειν, «ἧς θείας οὐσίας παρίστησι τὴν ἰδιότητα. Τοῦ ἁγίου Γρηγορίου ἐπισκόπου Ναζιωγζοῦ. Ἐκ τοῦ 1όγου τοῦ εἰς (θὅ) τὴν νέαν Κυριακήν. αὶ Ἐκ ἽΙξειν πάλιν μετὰ τῆς ἐνδόξου αὑτοῦ παρουσίας, κρίνοντα ζῶντας καὶ νεκρούς. Οὐκέτι μὲν σάρκα, οὐκ ἀσώματον δὲ, οἷς αὐτὸς οἶδεν ἀληθῶς θεοειδεστέρου σώματος, ἵνα καὶ ὀφθῇ ὑπὸ τῶν ἐκκεντησάντων, καὶ μείνῃ Θεὸς ἕξω παχύτητος. -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς πρὸς Κιηδόγιον Ἦῆς. Φύσεις μὲν γὰρ δύο Θεὸς καὶ ἄνθρωπος ἐπεὶ καὶ ψυχὴ καὶ σῶμα υἱοὶ δὲ οὐ δύο. Οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐνταῦθα δύο ἄνθρωποι, εἰ καὶ οὕτως ὁ Παῦλος καλεῖ τὸ ἐντὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου, καὶ τὸ ἐχτός. Καὶ εἰ δεῖ συντόμως εἰπεῖν, ἄλλο μὲν καὶ ἄλλο τὰ ἐξ ὧν ὁ Σωτὴρ, ἐπεὶ μὴ ταὐτὸν τὸν ὁρατὸν τῷ ἀοράτῳ, καὶ τὸ ἄχρονον τῷ ὑπὸ χρόνον " οὐκ ἄλλος δὲ καὶ ἄλλος, μὴ γένοιτο. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς πρὸς Κιληδόνιον προτέρας ἐκθέσεως. ἘΠ΄-τις ἀποτεθεῖσθαι νῦν τὴν σάρκα λέγει, καὶ γυμνὴν εἶναι τὴν θεότητα σώματος, ἀλλὰ μὴ μετὰ τοῦ προσλήμματος καὶ εἶναι, καὶ ἔξειν, μὴ ἴδοι τὴν δόξαν τῆς παρουσίας. Ποῦ -γὰρ τὸ σῶμα νῦν, εἰ μὴ μετὰ τοῦ προσλαξόντος; Οὐ γὰρ δὴ κατὰ τοὺς Μανικαίων λήρους τῷ ἡλίῳ ἐναποτέθειται, ἵνα τιμηθῇ διὰ τῇς ἀτιμίας " ἣ εἰς τὸν ἀέρα ἐχέθη καὶ διελύθη, ὡς φωνῇς φύσις, καὶ ὁδμῆς ῥύσις, καὶ ἀστραπῆς δρόμος οὐκ ἱσταμένης. Ποῦ δὲ καὶ τὸ ψηλαφηθῆναι μετὰ τὴν ἀνάστασιν, ἐν ἧ ὀφθήσεταί ποτε ὑπὸ τῶν ἐκκεντησάντων; θεότης δὲ καθ' ἑαυτὴν ἀόρατος. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ περὶ Υἱοῦ ειἰόγου δευτέρου. Ὡς μὲν γὰρ Λόγος, οὔτε ὑπήκοος ἦν, οὔτ᾽ ἀνήκοος " τῶν γὰρ ὑπὸ χεῖρα ταῦτα, καὶ τῶν δευτέρων" τὸ μὲν τῶν εὐγνωμονεστέρων, τὸ δὲ τῶν ἀξίων χρίσεως. Ὡς δὲ δούλου μορφὴ, συγχαταθαίνει τοῖς ὁμοδούλοις. καὶ μορφοῦται τὸ ἀλλότριον, ὅλον ἐν ἑαυτῷ φέρων ἐμὲ μετὰ τῶν ἐμῶν, ἵνα ἐν ἑαυτῷ δαπανήσῃ τὸ χεῖρον, ὡς κηρὸν
rōn. --- Tou autou. eis to kata Eunomiou. Egō gar kai to en morphę̄ Theou hyparchein, ison dynasthai tǭ en ousią Theou hyparchein phēmi. Hōs gar to morphēn aneilēphenai doulou, en tę̄ ousią tēs anthrōpotētos ton Kyrion hēmōn gegenēsthai sēmainei, houtōs legōn en morphę̄ Theou hyparchein, «hēs theias ousias paristēsi tēn idiotēta. Tou hagiou Grēgoriou episkopou Naziōgzou. Ek tou 1ogou tou eis (tho) tēn nean Kyriakēn. ai Ek HiIxein palin meta tēs endoxou hautou parousias, krinonta zōntas kai nekrous. Ouketi men sarka, ouk asōmaton de, hois autos oiden alēthōs theoeidesterou sōmatos, hina kai ophthę̄ hypo tōn ekkentēsantōn, kai meinę̄ Theos hexō pachytētos. -- Tou autou, ek tēs pros Kiēdogion Ēēs. Physeis men gar dyo Theos kai anthrōpos epei kai psychē kai sōma huioi de ou dyo. Oude gar entautha dyo anthrōpoi, ei kai houtōs ho Paulos kalei to entos tou anthrōpou, kai to echtos. Kai ei dei syntomōs eipein, allo men kai allo ta ex hōn ho Sōtēr, epei mē tauton ton horaton tǭ aoratǭ, kai to achronon tǭ hypo chronon " ouk allos de kai allos, mē genoito. --- Tou autou, ek tēs pros Kilēdonion proteras ektheseōs. EP΄-tis apotetheisthai nyn tēn sarka legei, kai gymnēn einai tēn theotēta sōmatos, alla mē meta tou proslēmmatos kai einai, kai exein, mē idoi tēn doxan tēs parousias. Pou -gar to sōma nyn, ei mē meta tou proslaxontos? Ou gar dē kata tous Manikaiōn lērous tǭ hēliǭ enapotetheitai, hina timēthę̄ dia tę̄s atimias " hē eis ton aera echethē kai dielythē, hōs phōnę̄s physis, kai hodmēs rhysis, kai astrapēs dromos ouk histamenēs. Pou de kai to psēlaphēthēnai meta tēn anastasin, en hē ophthēsetai pote hypo tōn ekkentēsantōn? theotēs de kath' heautēn aoratos. --- Tou autou, ek tou peri Huiou eiiogou deuterou. Hōs men gar Logos, oute hypēkoos ēn, out᾽ anēkoos " tōn gar hypo cheira tauta, kai tōn deuterōn" to men tōn eugnōmonesterōn, to de tōn axiōn chriseōs. Hōs de doulou morphē, synchatathainei tois homodoulois. kai morphoutai to allotrion, holon en heautǭ pherōn eme meta tōn emōn, hina en heautǭ dapanēsę̄ to cheiron, hōs kēron
Of the same, against Eunomius: “For I say that ‘being in the form of God’ is equivalent to ‘being in the substance of God.’ For as ‘having taken the form of a servant’ signifies that our Lord came to be in the substance of humanity, so in saying ‘being in the form of God’ he presents the property of the divine substance.” Of holy Gregory, bishop of Nazianzus. From the discourse on New Sunday: “[He will] come again with his glorious coming, judging the living and the dead; no longer flesh, yet not bodiless, by principles known to himself, of a more godlike body, so that he may both be seen by those who pierced him and remain God beyond grossness.” Of the same, from the letter to Cledonius: “For there are two natures, God and human, since there are also soul and body; but not two sons. For not here either are there two human beings, even if Paul so calls the inner and the outer man. And, to speak briefly, the elements of which the Savior is are one thing and another, since the invisible is not the same as the visible, nor the timeless as what is under time; but not one person and another; far from it!” Of the same, from the first exposition to Cledonius: “If anyone says that the flesh has now been laid aside, and that the Godhead is bare of body, and not that he both is and will come with what he assumed, may he not see the glory of the coming. For where is the body now, if not with the one who assumed it? For it has not, as in the nonsense of the Manichees, been deposited in the sun, so as to be honored through dishonor; nor was it poured out into the air and dissolved, like the nature of a voice, the flow of a scent, and the course of lightning that does not stand still. And where then is its being touched after the resurrection, or its being seen one day by those who pierced him? For the Godhead by itself is invisible.” Of the same, from the second discourse on the Son: “For as Word he was neither obedient nor disobedient; for these belong to those under authority and to those of second rank, the one to the more well-disposed, the other to those who deserve judgment. But as the form of a servant he condescends to his fellow servants, and takes on a form not his own, bearing in himself the whole of me with what is mine, so that in himself he may consume what is worse, as fire consumes wax
Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 4:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Zech 12:10 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:37 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 7:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 4:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Basil on 'the form of God' as the divine substance; Gregory of Nazianzus on Christ's coming again in a godlike body, on two natures but not two sons ('not one and another person'), against those who say the flesh was laid aside, and on Christ's obedience as the form of a servant.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Basil, Against Eunomius (passage not identified further here); Gregory of Nazianzus, Oration 40 or 44 (headed 'on New Sunday'; not checked); Letter 101 (two passages); Oration 30.6 (the 'second discourse on the Son'). Gregory's 'one thing and another … but not one person and another' contrasts neuter (ἄλλο καὶ ἄλλο) and masculine (ἄλλος καὶ ἄλλος). Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Phil 2:6–7; 2 Tim 4:1; Zech 12:10 (cf. John 19:37; Rev 1:7); Rom 7:22; 2 Cor 4:16; Luke 24:39.
Notes on the original text
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Extrabiblical texts: Gregory of Nazianzus, Ep. 101 (Letters; quotation); Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 6 (Theological Oration 4: On the Son; quotation)
Topics: Christology, Heresy, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.35 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.36PG 83
πῦρ, ἡ ὡς ἀτμίδα γῆς ἥλιος. --- Τοῦ σὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ λόγου τοῦ εἰς τὰ Θεοφάνια. Ἕπειδὴ τοίνυν προῆλθεν ἐκ τῆς Παρθένον μετὰ τῆς προσλήψεως ἐκ δύο τῶν ἑαυτοῖς ἐναντίων σαρκὸς καὶ πνεύματος. Ὧν τὸ μὲν αὐτῶν εἰς τὸν Θεὸν προσειλῆφθαι, τὸ δὲ τὴν χάριν παρέσχηκε τῆς θεότητος. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, μετ ὀλίγον. ᾿Απεστάλη μὲν, ἀλλ᾽ ὡς ἄνθρωπος. Διπλῇ γὰρ ἦν ἡ φύσις αὐτοῦ, ἀμέλει τοι ἐντεῦθεν καὶ ἐκοπίασε, καὶ ἐπείνησε, καὶ ἐδίψησε, καὶ ἢγωνίασε, καὶ ἐδάκρυσεν, ἀνθρωπίνου σώματος νόμῳ. --- τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐν τῷ δευτέρῳ λόγῳ τῷ περὶ Θεὸς δὲ λέγοιτο ἂν, οὐ τοῦ Λόγον, τοῦ ὁρωμένου δέ. Πῶς γὰρ ἂν εἴη τοῦ κυρίως Θεοῦ θεός; Ὥσπερ καὶ Πατὴρ, οὐ τοῦ ὁρωμένου, τοῦ Λόγου δέ. Καὶ γὰρ ἦν διπλοῦς. "Ὥστε τὸ μὲν κυρίως ἐπ᾽ ἀμφοῖν, τὸ δὲ οὐ κυρίως, ἀλλ᾽ ἐναντίως ἡ ἐφ᾽ ἡμῶν ἕξει. Ἡμῶν γὰρ κυρίως μὲν θεὸς, οὐ κυρίως δὲ πατῆρ. Καὶ τοῦτό ἔστιν ὃ ποιεῖ τοῖς αἱρετικοῖς τὴν πλάνην, ἡ τῶν ὀνομάτων ἐπίζευξις. Σημεῖον δὲ, ὡς ἡνίκα αἱ φύσεις διίστανται ταῖς ἐπινοίαις, συνδιαιρεῖται τὰ ὀνόματα. Παύλου λέγοντος ἀκούετε, εἽνα ὁ Θεὸς τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὁ Πατὴρ τῆς δόξης "» Χριστοῦ μὲν Θεὸς, τῆς δὲ δόξης Πατήρ. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ τὸ συναμφότεο ρὸν ἕν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐ τῇ φύσει, τῇ δὲ συνόδῳ. Τούτων τί ἂν γένοιτο γνωριμώτερον; Πέμπτον λεγέσθω, τὸ ἐθνῶν, ἣ ἐξουσίαν πάσης σαρκὸς, ἧ δόξαν, ἣ μαθητὰς, ἣ ὅσα λέγεται. Καὶ ταῦτα τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «όγου. «ε Εἷς γὰρ Θεὸς. εἷς καὶ μεσίτης Θεοῦ καὶ ἀνθρώπων, ἄνθρωπος Χριστὸς Ἰησοῦς.» Πρεσδεύει γὰρ ἔτι ὡς ἄνθρωπος καὶ νῦν ὑπὲρ τῆς ἐμῆς σωτηρίας. Ὅτι μετὰ τοῦ σώματός ἐστιν ὃ προσέλαδεν, ἕως ἂν ἐμὲ ποιήσῃ Θεὸν, τῇ δυνάμει τῆς ἐνανθρωπήσεως, κἂν μηκέτι κατὰ σάρκα γινώσκηται, τὰ σαρκικὰ λέγω πάθη, καὶ χωρὶς τῆς ἁμαρτίας τῆς ἣμε-
pyr, hē hōs atmida gēs hēlios. --- Tou sytou, ek tou logou tou eis ta Theophania. Hepeidē toinyn proēlthen ek tēs Parthenon meta tēs proslēpseōs ek dyo tōn heautois enantiōn sarkos kai pneumatos. Hōn to men autōn eis ton Theon proseilēphthai, to de tēn charin pareschēke tēs theotētos. --- Tou hautou, met oligon. ᾿Apestalē men, all᾽ hōs anthrōpos. Diplę̄ gar ēn hē physis autou, amelei toi enteuthen kai ekopiase, kai epeinēse, kai edipsēse, kai ēgōniase, kai edakrysen, anthrōpinou sōmatos nomǭ. --- tou hautou, en tǭ deuterǭ logǭ tǭ peri Theos de legoito an, ou tou Logon, tou horōmenou de. Pōs gar an eiē tou kyriōs Theou theos? Hōsper kai Patēr, ou tou horōmenou, tou Logou de. Kai gar ēn diplous. "Hōste to men kyriōs ep᾽ amphoin, to de ou kyriōs, all᾽ enantiōs hē eph᾽ hēmōn hexei. Hēmōn gar kyriōs men theos, ou kyriōs de patēr. Kai touto estin ho poiei tois hairetikois tēn planēn, hē tōn onomatōn epizeuxis. Sēmeion de, hōs hēnika hai physeis diistantai tais epinoiais, syndiaireitai ta onomata. Paulou legontos akouete, heIna ho Theos tou Kyriou hēmōn Iēsou Christou, ho Patēr tēs doxēs "» Christou men Theos, tēs de doxēs Patēr. Ei gar kai to synamphoteo ron hen, all᾽ ou tę̄ physei, tę̄ de synodǭ. Toutōn ti an genoito gnōrimōteron? Pempton legesthō, to ethnōn, hē exousian pasēs sarkos, hē doxan, hē mathētas, hē hosa legetai. Kai tauta tēs anthrōpotētos. --- Tou hautou, ek tou autou «ogou. «e Heis gar Theos. heis kai mesitēs Theou kai anthrōpōn, anthrōpos Christos Iēsous.» Presdeuei gar eti hōs anthrōpos kai nyn hyper tēs emēs sōtērias. Hoti meta tou sōmatos estin ho proseladen, heōs an eme poiēsę̄ Theon, tę̄ dynamei tēs enanthrōpēseōs, kan mēketi kata sarka ginōskētai, ta sarkika legō pathē, kai chōris tēs hamartias tēs hēme-
or as the sun consumes the vapor of the earth.” Of the same, from the discourse on the Theophany: “Since, then, he came forth from the Virgin with what he had assumed, [one] from two things opposed to each other, flesh and spirit; of which the one was assumed into God, and the other furnished the grace of the Godhead.” Of the same, a little later: “He was sent, but as human. For his nature was twofold; hence, indeed, he grew weary, and hungered, and thirsted, and was in agony, and wept, by the law of a human body.” Of the same, in the second discourse on [the Son]: “He would be called God, not of the Word, but of the visible. For how could he be God of him who is properly God? Just as he is Father, not of the visible, but of the Word. For he was twofold. So that the one title is used properly in both cases, but the other not properly; the opposite of what holds in our case. For of us he is properly God, but not properly Father. And this is what produces the heretics' error: the yoking together of the names. A sign of this is that when the natures are distinguished in thought, the names are divided along with them. You hear Paul saying, ‘That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory’: God of Christ, but Father of glory. For even if both together are one, it is not by nature but by the coming together. What could be clearer than this?” [Of the same:] “Let it be said in the fifth place: … the nations, or authority over all flesh, or glory, or disciples, or whatever is said. And these belong to the humanity.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “‘For there is one God, and one mediator of God and human beings, the man Christ Jesus.’ For he still intercedes even now, as human, for my salvation; for he is with the body that he assumed, until he makes me God by the power of the incarnation, even if he is no longer known according to the flesh (I mean the fleshly sufferings), and, apart from sin, ours …
Eph 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:25 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 4:15 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Gregory of Nazianzus: Christ came forth from the Virgin as one from two, flesh and spirit; his weariness and tears belong to his human nature; the Father is 'God' of Christ's humanity and 'Father' of the Word; Christ still intercedes as man with the body he assumed.
- Florilegium. Quotations from Gregory of Nazianzus: Oration 38.13 (On the Theophany); a passage 'a little later'; Oration 30.8, 30.11 (the 'fifth' point) and 30.14 (the 'second discourse on the Son' is Oration 30). Migne's footnotes, which give the Paris edition's wording of these passages in Greek, and his Latin column, read as Greek letters, have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Eph 1:17; John 17:2; 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 7:25; 2 Cor 5:16; Heb 4:15.
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- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column and his footnotes (Paris edition wording) read into the text; Migne's footnotes on variant readings read into the text): 4υοΐ Δοσοροῦῖ 056 Υἱίαιῃ, δαΐ Δ᾽ οἰ απι, δυϊ Γα- Εἰ 66 ἰητι, 5. αὐἀϊι. Ῥατὶβ. τ. 1, ν. 620 : Προελθὼν δὲ Θεὸς μετὰ τῆς προσλήψεως. ἕν ἐκ δύο τῶν ἐναντίων σαρκὸς καὶ πνεύματο:. Ὧων τὸ μὲν ἐθέωσε, τὸ δὲ ἐθεθη. διπλῇ κ. τ. λ. 10. Ρ. Ο21, Ἰαᾳ. διπλοῦς γὰρ Ἦν᾽ ἐπεὶ καὶ ἐκοπίασε χ. τ. λ. μαεῖ ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ λόγῳ. πιο 6118 ἀλλ᾽ --- ἔξϑι. Εα. Ῥατὶ5. ἐναντίως ἣ ἐφ᾽ ἡμῶν. καὶ --- συνόδῳ. δα ἴῃ οὐϊ:. Ἀοπι. οἱ 1 ἰρς. τ απυν 1}}18 αυα ἢ. 1. ργῳοράμππηί, Θεὸς δὲ λέγοιτο. Χ. τ. λ. → ; τῶν ὀνομάτων διὰ τὴν σύγκρασιν. Π. λέγ. ἀκ. Εἀὰ. Ἀοπι. οἱ {|)08. Τοῦ αὑτοῦ ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ λόγῳ. Χρ. μ. θεός. Εἀ. Βοπι. οἱ [ρ8. Θεὸς μὲν τοῦ Χριστοῦ. όδ. Ἐά. (τ, ἀοίπάα βαχιυίίην Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ λόγῳ. Θεὸς δὲ λέγοιτο χ. τ. λ. Ῥοβίοα, Η}] γοσυγταπῦ → .
Extrabiblical texts: Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 8 (Theological Oration 4: On the Son; quotation); Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 14 (Theological Oration 4: On the Son; quotation)
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.36 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-36
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.37PG 83
κέρας.--- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «ἰόγου. Ἢ πᾶσιν εὔδηλον, ὅτι γινώσκει μὲν ὡς Θεὸς, ἀγνοεῖ (): δὲ φησὶν, ὡς ἄνθρωπος, ἐάν τις τὸ φαινόμενον χυ»ρίσῃ τοῦ νοουμένου. Τὸ γὰρ ἀπόλυτον εἶναι τὴν ιὅ) τοῦ Υἱοῦ προσηγορίαν, καὶ ἄσχετον, οὗ προσκειμένου τῷ Υἱῷ τοῦ τίνος, ταύτην δίδωσι (Ὁ) τὴν ὑπόνοιαν. Ὥστε τὴν ἄγνοιαν ὑπολαμόάνειν ἐπὶ τὸ εὑσεδέστερον, τῷ ἀνθρωπίνῳ, μὴ τῷ Θεῷ, ταύτην λογί- Τοῦ ἁγίου Γρηγορίου ἐπισκόπου Νύσσης. Ἐκ τοῦ κατηχητικχοῦ (2όγου. Καὶ τίς τοῦτό φησιν, ὅτι τῇ περιγραφῇ τῆς σαρκὺς, καθάπερ ἀγγείῳ τινὶ, τὸ ἄπειρον τῆς θεότητος περιείληπται; Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «16γου. Ἑὶ δὲ ἀνθρώπου Ψυχὴ, κατὰ τὴν τῆς φύσεως ἀνάγκην συγκεκραμένη τῷ σώματι, πανταχοῦ κατ᾽ ἐξουσίαν γίνεται, τίς ἀνάγκη τῇ φύσει τῆς σαρκὸς τὴν θεότητα λέγειν ἐμπεριείργεσθαι; --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.16γου. Τί κωλύει θείας φύσεως ξνωσίν τινα καὶ προῦεγγισμὸν γνωρίσαντας πρὸς τὸ ἀνθρώπινον, τὴν θεοπρεπῇ διάνοιαν καὶ ἐν τῷ προσεγγισμῷ διασώσασθαι, πάσης περιγραφῆς ἐκτὸς εἶναι τὸ θεῖον πιστεύοντας κἂν ἐν ἀνθρώποις ἧ; --- Τοῦ αὐὖτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ κατὰ Εὐγομίου “1όγου. Εἰ δὲ ὁ μὲν ἐκ τῆς Μαρίας ἀδελφοῖς διαλέγεται, ὁ δὲ μονογενὴς ἀδελφοὺς οὐκ ἔχει" πῶς γὰρ ἐν ἀδελφοῖς τὸ μονογενὲς διεσώζετο : Καὶ ὁ εἰπὼν, ε« Πνεῦμα ὁ Θεὸς, » φησὶ πρὸς τοὺς μαθητὰς ὁ αὐτὸς, « Ῥηλαφήσατέ με, » ἵνα δείξῃ ὅτι ψηλαφητὴ μόνη ἡ ἀνθρωπεία φύσις, ἀναφὲς δὲ τὸ θεῖον. Καὶ ὁ εἰπὼν, ε Πορεύομαι, » τοπικὴν διασημαίνέι μετάστασιν" ὁ δὲ τὰ πάντα ἐμπεριειληφὼς, ἐν ᾧ, καθώς φησιν ὁ ᾿Απόστολος, ἐκτίσθη πάντα, καὶ ἐν αὐτῷ τὰ πάντα συνέστηκεν, οὐδὲν ἐν τοῖς οὖσιν ἔξω αὐτοῦ ἔχει, ὃ κατά τινα χίγησιν ἢ μεταχώρησιν γένηται. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «.ἰόγου. Τῇ δεξιᾷ οὖν τοῦ Θεοῦ ὑψωθείς. Τίς οὖν ὑψώθη; ὁ ταπεινὸς, ἣ ὁ ὕψιστος; τί δὲ τὸ ταπεινὸν, εἰ μὴ τὸ ἀνθρώπινον : Τί δὲ ἄλλο παρὰ τὸ θεῖόν ἐστιν ὁ Ὕψιστος : ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν ὁ Θεὸς ὑψωθῇναι οὐ δεῖται, ὕψιστος ὧν " τὸ ἀνθρώπινον διὰ τὸ Κύριος καὶ Χριστὸς γενέσθαι. Οὐκοῦν οὐ τὴν προαιώνιον ὕπαρξιν τοῦ Κυρίου διὰ τοῦ ἑποίησε ῥήματος παρίστησιν ὁ ᾿Απόστολος" ἀλλὰ τὴν ταῦ ταπεινοῦ πρὸς τὸ ὑψηλὸν μεταποίησιν, τὴν ἐκ δεξιῶν τοῦ θεοῦ γεγενημένην. Σαφηνίζεται γὰρ διὰ τούτου τοῦ ῥήματος τὸ τῆς εὐσεθείας μνστήριον. Ὁ «γὰρ εἰπὼν, «ε Τῇ δεξιᾷ τοῦ Θεοῦ ὑψωθεὶς, » φανερῶς ἐκκαλύπτει τὴν ἀπόῤῥητον τοῦ μνστηρίου οἰκονομίαν, ὅτι ἣἡ δεξιὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἢ ποιητικὴ τῶν ὄντων πάντων, ἧτις ἐστὶν ὁ Κύρ'ος, δι᾽ οὗ τὰ πάντα ἐγένετο, καὶ οὗ χωρὶς ὑπέστη τῶν γεγονότων οὐδὲν, αὕτη τὸν ἑνωθέντα πρὸς αὐτὴν ἄνθρωπον εἰς τὸ ἴδιον ἀνήγαγεν ὕψος διὰ τῆς ἑνώσεως. ᾿δκ τοῦ «1όγου τοῦ εἰς τὸ,« Ὁ Πατήρ μου μείζων μού ἐστιν. ν Διάκρινον λοιπὸν τὰς φύσεις, τὴν τε ἢ τοῦ Θεοῦ, τὴν τε τοῦ ἀνθρώπου. Οὔτε γὰρχατὰ ἔκπτωσιν ἐκ Θεοῦ γέγονεν ἄνθρωπος, οὔτε κατὰ προκοπὴν ἐξ
keras.--- Tou autou, ek tou autou «iogou. Ē pasin eudēlon, hoti ginōskei men hōs Theos, agnoei (): de phēsin, hōs anthrōpos, ean tis to phainomenon chy»risę̄ tou nooumenou. To gar apolyton einai tēn hio) tou Huiou prosēgorian, kai ascheton, hou proskeimenou tǭ Huiǭ tou tinos, tautēn didōsi (Ho) tēn hyponoian. Hōste tēn agnoian hypolamoanein epi to heusedesteron, tǭ anthrōpinǭ, mē tǭ Theǭ, tautēn logi- Tou hagiou Grēgoriou episkopou Nyssēs. Ek tou katēchētikchou (2ogou. Kai tis touto phēsin, hoti tę̄ perigraphę̄ tēs sarkys, kathaper angeiǭ tini, to apeiron tēs theotētos perieilēptai? Tou autou, ek tou autou «16gou. Hei de anthrōpou Psychē, kata tēn tēs physeōs anankēn synkekramenē tǭ sōmati, pantachou kat᾽ exousian ginetai, tis anankē tę̄ physei tēs sarkos tēn theotēta legein emperieirgesthai? --- Tou autou, ek tou autou.16gou. Ti kōlyei theias physeōs xnōsin tina kai prouengismon gnōrisantas pros to anthrōpinon, tēn theoprepę̄ dianoian kai en tǭ prosengismǭ diasōsasthai, pasēs perigraphēs ektos einai to theion pisteuontas kan en anthrōpois hē? --- Tou auytou, ek tou kata Eugomiou “1ogou. Ei de ho men ek tēs Marias adelphois dialegetai, ho de monogenēs adelphous ouk echei" pōs gar en adelphois to monogenes diesōzeto : Kai ho eipōn, e« Pneuma ho Theos, » phēsi pros tous mathētas ho autos, « Rhēlaphēsate me, » hina deixę̄ hoti psēlaphētē monē hē anthrōpeia physis, anaphes de to theion. Kai ho eipōn, e Poreuomai, » topikēn diasēmainei metastasin" ho de ta panta emperieilēphōs, en hǭ, kathōs phēsin ho ᾿Apostolos, ektisthē panta, kai en autǭ ta panta synestēken, ouden en tois ousin exō autou echei, ho kata tina chigēsin ē metachōrēsin genētai. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou «.iogou. Tę̄ dexią oun tou Theou hypsōtheis. Tis oun hypsōthē? ho tapeinos, hē ho hypsistos? ti de to tapeinon, ei mē to anthrōpinon : Ti de allo para to theion estin ho Hypsistos : ᾿Alla mēn ho Theos hypsōthę̄nai ou deitai, hypsistos hōn " to anthrōpinon dia to Kyrios kai Christos genesthai. Oukoun ou tēn proaiōnion hyparxin tou Kyriou dia tou hepoiēse rhēmatos paristēsin ho ᾿Apostolos" alla tēn tau tapeinou pros to hypsēlon metapoiēsin, tēn ek dexiōn tou theou gegenēmenēn. Saphēnizetai gar dia toutou tou rhēmatos to tēs eusetheias mnstērion. Ho «gar eipōn, «e Tę̄ dexią tou Theou hypsōtheis, » phanerōs ekkalyptei tēn aporrhēton tou mnstēriou oikonomian, hoti hēē dexia tou Theou, ē poiētikē tōn ontōn pantōn, hētis estin ho Kyr'os, di᾽ hou ta panta egeneto, kai hou chōris hypestē tōn gegonotōn ouden, hautē ton henōthenta pros autēn anthrōpon eis to idion anēgagen hypsos dia tēs henōseōs. ᾿dk tou «1ogou tou eis to,« Ho Patēr mou meizōn mou estin. n Diakrinon loipon tas physeis, tēn te ē tou Theou, tēn te tou anthrōpou. Oute garchata ekptōsin ek Theou gegonen anthrōpos, oute kata prokopēn ex
… Of the same, from the same discourse: “Or is it not clear to all that he knows as God, but says that he does not know as human, if one separates what is seen from what is understood? For the fact that the title of the Son is absolute and unrelated, with no ‘of whom’ added to ‘the Son,’ gives this suggestion: that we should take the ignorance in the more pious sense, reckoning it to the human, not to the divine.” Of holy Gregory, bishop of Nyssa. From the Catechetical Oration: “And who says this, that the infinity of the Godhead is contained by the circumscription of the flesh, as in some vessel?” Of the same, from the same discourse: “But if the soul of a human being, though blended with the body by the necessity of nature, goes everywhere at will, what necessity is there to say that the Godhead is enclosed within the nature of the flesh?” Of the same, from the same discourse: “What prevents us, recognizing a certain union and drawing near of the divine nature to the human, from preserving the God-befitting understanding even in the drawing near, believing that the divine is outside all circumscription even when it is in human beings?” Of the same, from the discourse against Eunomius: “But if the one from Mary converses with brothers, while the Only-begotten has no brothers (for how would ‘only-begotten’ be preserved among brothers?); and he who said ‘God is spirit’ says to the disciples, ‘Touch me,’ to show that only the human nature can be touched, while the divine is intangible; and he who says ‘I go’ indicates a change of place, while he who contains all things, in whom, as the Apostle says, all things were created and in whom all things hold together, has nothing among the things that exist outside himself, to which he might come by some movement or departure …” Of the same, from the same discourse: “‘Exalted, then, by the right hand of God.’ Who, then, was exalted? The lowly one, or the Most High? And what is the lowly, if not the human? And what else is the Most High but the divine? But God does not need to be exalted, being Most High; [so] the human [was exalted], through becoming Lord and Christ. Therefore the Apostle does not present by the word ‘he made’ the Lord's existence before the ages, but the transformation of the lowly into the lofty, which took place at the right hand of God. For through this word the mystery of godliness is made clear. For he who said, ‘Exalted by the right hand of God,’ plainly reveals the ineffable dispensation of the mystery: that the right hand of God, which made all things that exist, which is the Lord, through whom all things came to be and without whom nothing that has come to be subsisted, itself raised the human being united to it to its own height through the union.” From the discourse on “My Father is greater than I”: “Distinguish, then, the natures, that of God and that of the human being. For neither did he become human from God by a fall, nor God from
Mark 13:32 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 4:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:36 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 3:16 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Gregory of Nazianzus refers Christ's ignorance to his humanity; Gregory of Nyssa denies that the Godhead is confined in the flesh, assigns brotherhood, touch and movement to the human nature, and reads 'exalted by the right hand of God' of the humanity raised through the union.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Gregory of Nazianzus, Oration 30.15; Gregory of Nyssa, Catechetical Oration 10 (three passages, sections approximate) and Against Eunomius (two passages, the second on Acts 2:33–36); a fragment on 'My Father is greater than I', the same passage as in the first dialogue (1.28), probably Amphilochius of Iconium (no author named here). Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Mark 13:32; John 20:17; John 4:24; Luke 24:39; John 14:28; Col 1:16–17; Acts 2:33, 36; John 1:3; 1 Tim 3:16.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's notes on variant readings read into the text): ἢυ- Ὥστε → Ὥστε; η} ἰηηἷδὲ → ; τη Ἑά. Ρατγὶβ, ἰ. 1, Ρ. 587 οὗ. ἢ Η ἀ. Ρλήϑ, ἣ ε Ῥ. ὅ88, μαδεῖ ἀγνοεῖν. ἄ ἐάν. ΤΙ οἷν ( δίδωσι. 10. τ Τὴν ἡμῖν. μὴ κ΄ τ. λ. 914. μὴ τῷ θείῳ ταύτην λογιζομέγους. () τὸ ---- περιείλ. Βά. Ῥατίβ. 1. ΠΠ, Ρ. 65, ἡ ἀπειοἷα τῆς θεότητος περιελήρθη. : “ϑεός. ἀ. ἴηι. εἰ Τὴ σαρκός. γεν. [ϊἀ. βοαχυΐπιγ, διὰ τοῦτο δὲ μετὰ τὸ πάθος ἐγένετο. Πυ μη }}}5 'π δυπὶ → ; δικ Ἀεὶ, πὶ δ᾽} ὴ τη ῖὰ ἰη ρῥτοποῦ → διὰ τοῦ .
Extrabiblical texts: Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 15 (Theological Oration 4: On the Son; quotation); Gregory of Nyssa, Or. cat. 10 (Catechetical Oration; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.37 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.38PG 83
ἀνθρώπον Θεός. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ (6γου εἰς τὸ, «Οὐ δύναται ὁ Υ[ίὸς ποιδῖν ἀφ᾽ ἑαυτοῦ οὐδέν. Μετὰ γὰρ τὴν ἀνάστασιν ὁ Κύριος τὰ συναμφότεραδείχνυσι, καὶ ὅτι οὐ τοιοῦτον τὸ σῶμα, καὶ ὅτι τοῦτο ἀνιστάμενον. ᾿Αναμνήσθητι τῆς ἱστορίας. Ἦσαν οἱ μαθηταὶ συνειλεγμένοϊ μετὰ τὸ πάθος καὶ τὴν ἀνάστασιν, καὶ τῶν θυρῶν κεκλεισμένων ἔστη μέσος αὐτῶν ὁ Κύριος. Οὐδέποτε τοῦτο πρὸ τοῦ πάθους ἐποίησε. Μὴ γὰρ οὐκ ἠδύνατο ὁ Χριστὸς καὶ πάλαι τοῦτο ποιῆσαι: πάντα γὰρ τῷ Θεῷ δυνατά. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐκ ἐποίησε πρὸ τοῦ πάθους, ἵνα μὴ νομίσῃς φαντασίαν τὴν οἰκονομίαν, ἣ δόκησιν, μηδὲ πνευματικὴν οἰηθῇς τοῦ Χριστοῦ τὴν σάρκα, μηδὲ ἐξ οὐρανῶν κατελθοῦσαν, μηδὲ ἑτερούσιον πἢ ἡμετέρᾳ σαρκί. Ταῦτα γὰρ πάντα τινὲς φαντασθέντες, καὶ σεμνύνειν νομίζοντες διὰ τούτων τὸν Κύριον, λελήθασι σφᾶς αὐτοὺς διὰ τῆς εὐχαριστίας βλασφημοῦντες, καὶ ψεῦδος κατηγοροῦντες τῆς ἀληθείας, πρὸς τὸ καὶ παντάπασιν ἄλογον τὸ ψεῦδος τνγχάνειν. Εἰ γὰρ ἕτερον ἀνέλαόε σῶμα, τέ πρὸς τὸ ἐμὸν τὸ τῆς σωτηρίας δεόμενον; Εῤ ἐξ οὐρανῶν χατήγαγε σάρκα, τί πρὸς τὴν ἐμὴν σάρκα τὴν ἐκ τῆς γῆς εἰλημμένην; -’ Τοῦ αὐτοῖ', ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «“2όγου. Διὰ ταῦτα μὲν οὖν, οὐ πρὸ τοῦ πάθους, ἀλλὰ μετὰ τὸ πάθος, τῶν θυρῶν κεκλεισμένων ἔστη τῶν μαθητῶν μέσος ὁ Κύριος, ἵνα γνῷς, ὅτι καὶ σοῦ τὸ Ψυχικὸν σῶμα σπαρὲν ἐγείρεται σῶμα πνευματικόν. Ἵνα δὲ μὴ πάλιν ἄλλο νομίσῃς εἶναι τὸ ἀνιστάμενον, τοῦ Θωμᾶ πρὸς τὴν ἀνάστασιν ἀπιστήσαντος, δείκνυσιν αὐτῷ τοὺς τύπους τῶν ἥλων, δείκνυσιν αὐτῷ τῶν τραυμάτων τὰ ἴχνη. ἾΑρ᾽ οὐκ ἴσχνεν ἑαντὸν ἰάσασθαι, καὶ ταῦτα μετὰ ἀνάστασιν, ὁ πάντας καὶ πρὸ τῆς ἀναστάσεως ἰασάμενος : ᾿Αλλὰ δι᾿ ὧν μὲν τοὺς τύπους τῶν ἥλων δείκνυσι, παραδίδωσιν ὅτι τοῦτο" δι᾽ ὧν δὲ κεκλεισμένων τῶν θυρῶν εἴσεισο, δείκνυσιν ὅτι οὐ τοιοῦτο. Τοῦτο μὲν, ἵνα πληρώσῃ τὸν τρόπον «ἧς οἰκονομίας, ἐγείρας τὸν νενεκρωμένον" οὐ τοιοῦτον δὲ, ἵνα μὴ πάλιν ὑποπέσῃ φθορᾷ, μηδὲ πάλιν ὑποστῇ θάνατον. ἱ Ἐκτῶν κατὰ Ὠριγένους. Οὔτε τῆς ἡμετέρας ὁμοιώσεως, πρὸς ἣν κεκοινώνηκεν, εἰς θεότητος φύσιν μεταθαλλομένης, οὔτε τῆς θεότητος αὐτοῦ τρεπομένης εἰς τὴν ἡμετέραν ὁμοίωσιν. Μένει γὰρ ὃ ἣν ἀπ᾽ ἀρχῆς Θεός" μένει καὶ τὴν ἡμῶν ἐν ἑαυτῷ παρασχενάζων ὕπαρξιν.---Ττοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὑτῆς πραγματείας.᾽ ᾿Αλλ’ οὗ γὰρ οὐκ ἡσυχάζων πάλιν βλασφημεῖς, συκοφαντῶν τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ, καὶ λέγων αὑτοῖς ῥήμασιν οὕτως" “Ὥπτπερ ὁ Υἱὸς καὶ Πατὴρ ἕν εἰσιν, οὕτω καὶ ἣν εἴληφεν ὁ Υἱὸς ψυχὴν, καὶ αὐτὸς, ἕν εἰσιν" ἀγνοῶν ὅτι ὁ μὲν Υἱὸς καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν εἰσι διὰ τὴν μίαν οὐσίαν, καὶ τὴν αὐτὴν θεότητα᾽ ἣ δὲ ψυχὴ καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς, ἑτέρα πρὸς ἑτέραν ἐστὶν οὐσία τε καὶ φύσις. Εἰ γὰρ ὥσπερ ὁ Πατὴρ καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς ἕν εἰσιν, οὕτω καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ τοῦ Υἱοῦ καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς ἕν εἰσιν, ἔσται καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ ἕν, καὶ λέξει ποτὲ καὶ ἡ Ψυχὴ τοῦ Υἱοῦ" ε« Ὁ ἑωρακὼς ἐμὲ, ἑώρακε τὸν Πατέρα. » ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐκ ἔστι τοῦτο, μὴ γένοιτο, Ὁ γὰρ Υἱὸς καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν, ἔπειδὴ μὴ διάφοροι ποιότητες" ἡ δὲ ψυχὴ καὶ ὁ καὶ τῇ φύσει, καὶ τῇ οὐτίᾳ ἕτερον, ἐπειδὴ καὶ αὐτὴ δι᾽ αὐτοῦ γέγονεν ὁμοούσιος ἡμῖν ὑπάρχουσα. Εἰ γὰρ ᾧ τρόπῳ ὁ Πατὴρ καὶ ὁ Υἱός εἰσιν ἕν, τούτῳ τῷ τρόπῳ καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς ἕν εἰσι, κατὰ τὸν Ὡριγένην, ἔσται καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ, ὡς ὁ Υἱὸς, ἀπαύγασμα τῆς δόξης τοῦ Θεοῦ, καὶ χαρακτὴρ τῆς ὑποστάσεως αὐτοῦ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν ἀδύνατον τοῦτο᾽ ἀδύνατον ἄρα καὶ τὸν Υἱὸν καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν αὐτοῦ ἕν εἶναι, καθάπερ αὐτὸς καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν εἰσ!. Καὶ τί ποιήσει πάλιν ἑαυτῷ περιπίπτων; Γράφει γὰρ οὕτως. Οὐ δήπου γὰρ ἡ τεταραγμένη καὶ περίλυπος οὖσα ψυχὴ ὁ Μονογενὴς καὶ πρωτότοκος πάσης κτίσεως ἐτύγχαγεν οὖσα. Ὁ γὰρ θεὸς Λόγος, ὡς κρείττων τῆς ψυχῆς τυγχάνων, αὐτὸς ὁ Υἱός φησιν, ε Ἐξουσίαν ἔχω θεῖναι αὐτὴν, καὶ ἐξουσίαν ἔχω λαύεῖν αὐτὴν. » Εἰ τοίνυν κρείττων ἐστὶ" ὁ Υἱὸς τῆς ἑαυτοῦ ψυχῆς, ὥσπερ οὖν καὶ κρείττων ὡμολόγηται, πῶς ἡ ψυχὴ τούτου ἴτα Θεῷ, καὶ ἐν μορφῇ αὐτοῦ; Αὐτὴν γὰρ εἶναί φαμεν. τὴν χενώσασαν ἑαυτὴν, καὶ μορφὴν δούλου λαδοῦἄλλων αἱρετιχῶν ἐγένετο, ὡς ἐπεσημηνάμεθα. Εἰ γάρ ἐν μορφῇ Θεοῦ ὑπάρχει ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ἴσα Θεῷ ἐστιν, ἐν μορφῇ ὃς Θεοῦ ὑπάρχειν καὶ ἴσα θεῷ τὴν ψυχὴν τοῦ Σωτῆρος οἴεται, τολμῆσας οὕτω γράψαι, πῶς τὸ ἴσον χρεῖττόν ἐστι; Τὰ γὰρ ὑποδεδηχότα τὴν φύσιν τῶν ὑπὲρ αὐτὰ χρεῖττον μαρτυρεῖ.
anthrōpon Theos. --- Tou autou, ek tou (6gou eis to, «Ou dynatai ho Y[ios poidin aph᾽ heautou ouden. Meta gar tēn anastasin ho Kyrios ta synamphoteradeichnysi, kai hoti ou toiouton to sōma, kai hoti touto anistamenon. ᾿Anamnēsthēti tēs historias. Ēsan hoi mathētai syneilegmenoï meta to pathos kai tēn anastasin, kai tōn thyrōn kekleismenōn estē mesos autōn ho Kyrios. Oudepote touto pro tou pathous epoiēse. Mē gar ouk ēdynato ho Christos kai palai touto poiēsai: panta gar tǭ Theǭ dynata. ᾿All᾽ ouk epoiēse pro tou pathous, hina mē nomisę̄s phantasian tēn oikonomian, hē dokēsin, mēde pneumatikēn oiēthę̄s tou Christou tēn sarka, mēde ex ouranōn katelthousan, mēde heterousion pē hēmeterą sarki. Tauta gar panta tines phantasthentes, kai semnynein nomizontes dia toutōn ton Kyrion, lelēthasi sphas autous dia tēs eucharistias blasphēmountes, kai pseudos katēgorountes tēs alētheias, pros to kai pantapasin alogon to pseudos tnnchanein. Ei gar heteron anelaoe sōma, te pros to emon to tēs sōtērias deomenon? Er ex ouranōn chatēgage sarka, ti pros tēn emēn sarka tēn ek tēs gēs eilēmmenēn? -’ Tou autoi', ek tou autou «“2ogou. Dia tauta men oun, ou pro tou pathous, alla meta to pathos, tōn thyrōn kekleismenōn estē tōn mathētōn mesos ho Kyrios, hina gnǭs, hoti kai sou to Psychikon sōma sparen egeiretai sōma pneumatikon. Hina de mē palin allo nomisę̄s einai to anistamenon, tou Thōma pros tēn anastasin apistēsantos, deiknysin autǭ tous typous tōn hēlōn, deiknysin autǭ tōn traumatōn ta ichnē. IAr᾽ ouk ischnen heanton iasasthai, kai tauta meta anastasin, ho pantas kai pro tēs anastaseōs iasamenos : ᾿Alla di᾿ hōn men tous typous tōn hēlōn deiknysi, paradidōsin hoti touto" di᾽ hōn de kekleismenōn tōn thyrōn eiseiso, deiknysin hoti ou toiouto. Touto men, hina plērōsę̄ ton tropon «hēs oikonomias, egeiras ton nenekrōmenon" ou toiouton de, hina mē palin hypopesę̄ phthorą, mēde palin hypostę̄ thanaton. hi Ektōn kata Ōrigenous. Oute tēs hēmeteras homoiōseōs, pros hēn kekoinōnēken, eis theotētos physin metathallomenēs, oute tēs theotētos autou trepomenēs eis tēn hēmeteran homoiōsin. Menei gar ho hēn ap᾽ archēs Theos" menei kai tēn hēmōn en heautǭ paraschenazōn hyparxin.---Ttou autou, ek tēs hautēs pragmateias.᾽ ᾿All’ hou gar ouk hēsychazōn palin blasphēmeis, sykophantōn ton Huion tou Theou, kai legōn hautois rhēmasin houtōs" “Hōptper ho Huios kai Patēr hen eisin, houtō kai hēn eilēphen ho Huios psychēn, kai autos, hen eisin" agnoōn hoti ho men Huios kai ho Patēr hen eisi dia tēn mian ousian, kai tēn autēn theotēta᾽ hē de psychē kai ho Huios, hetera pros heteran estin ousia te kai physis. Ei gar hōsper ho Patēr kai ho Huios hen eisin, houtō kai hē psychē tou Huiou kai ho Huios hen eisin, estai kai ho Patēr kai hē psychē hen, kai lexei pote kai hē Psychē tou Huiou" e« Ho heōrakōs eme, heōrake ton Patera. » ᾿All᾽ ouk esti touto, mē genoito, Ho gar Huios kai ho Patēr hen, epeidē mē diaphoroi poiotētes" hē de psychē kai ho kai tę̄ physei, kai tę̄ outią heteron, epeidē kai autē di᾽ autou gegonen homoousios hēmin hyparchousa. Ei gar hǭ tropǭ ho Patēr kai ho Huios eisin hen, toutǭ tǭ tropǭ kai hē psychē kai ho Huios hen eisi, kata ton Hōrigenēn, estai kai hē psychē, hōs ho Huios, apaugasma tēs doxēs tou Theou, kai charaktēr tēs hypostaseōs autou. ᾿Alla mēn adynaton touto᾽ adynaton ara kai ton Huion kai tēn psychēn autou hen einai, kathaper autos kai ho Patēr hen eis!. Kai ti poiēsei palin heautǭ peripiptōn? Graphei gar houtōs. Ou dēpou gar hē tetaragmenē kai perilypos ousa psychē ho Monogenēs kai prōtotokos pasēs ktiseōs etynchagen ousa. Ho gar theos Logos, hōs kreittōn tēs psychēs tynchanōn, autos ho Huios phēsin, e Exousian echō theinai autēn, kai exousian echō lauein autēn. » Ei toinyn kreittōn esti" ho Huios tēs heautou psychēs, hōsper oun kai kreittōn hōmologētai, pōs hē psychē toutou ita Theǭ, kai en morphę̄ autou? Autēn gar einai phamen. tēn chenōsasan heautēn, kai morphēn doulou ladouallōn hairetichōn egeneto, hōs epesēmēnametha. Ei gar en morphę̄ Theou hyparchei ho Logos, kai isa Theǭ estin, en morphę̄ hos Theou hyparchein kai isa theǭ tēn psychēn tou Sōtēros oietai, tolmēsas houtō grapsai, pōs to ison chreitton esti? Ta gar hypodedēchota tēn physin tōn hyper auta chreitton martyrei.
a human being.” Of the same, from the discourse on “The Son can do nothing of himself”: “For after the resurrection the Lord shows both: that the body is not such [as before], and that it is this body that rose. Remember the history. The disciples were gathered together after the passion and the resurrection, and while the doors were shut the Lord stood in their midst. He never did this before the passion. Could not Christ have done this long before? For all things are possible to God. But he did not do it before the passion, so that you might not think the dispensation a fantasy or a seeming, nor suppose Christ's flesh to be spiritual, or to have come down from heaven, or to be of another substance than our flesh. For some, imagining all these things and thinking to honor the Lord by them, have unawares blasphemed through their very thanksgiving, and charged the truth with falsehood, so that the falsehood is altogether absurd. For if he assumed another body, what has it to do with mine, which needs salvation? If he brought flesh down from heaven, what has it to do with my flesh, taken from the earth?” Of the same, from the same discourse: “For these reasons, then, not before the passion but after the passion, the Lord stood in the midst of the disciples while the doors were shut, so that you might know that your natural body too, once sown, is raised a spiritual body. And so that you might not think, again, that what rises is something else, when Thomas disbelieved the resurrection, he shows him the prints of the nails, he shows him the traces of the wounds. Could he not heal himself, and that after the resurrection, he who healed all even before the resurrection? But by showing the prints of the nails he teaches that it is this body; and by entering when the doors were shut he shows that it is not such [as before]. The one, so that he might fulfil the manner of the dispensation by raising what had died; ‘not such,’ so that it might not again fall under corruption nor again undergo death.” From the [writings] against Origen: “Neither is our likeness, which he has shared, changed into the nature of the Godhead, nor is his Godhead turned into our likeness. For he remains God, what he was from the beginning; and he remains, preparing our existence in himself.” Of the same, from the same treatise: “But you do not keep quiet; you blaspheme again, slandering the Son of God and saying in these very words: ‘Just as the Son and the Father are one, so the soul that the Son took and he himself are one’; not knowing that the Son and the Father are one because of the one substance and the same Godhead, while the soul and the Son are of different substance and nature from each other. For if, just as the Father and the Son are one, so too the soul of the Son and the Son are one, then the Father and the soul will also be one, and the soul of the Son will at some time say, ‘He who has seen me has seen the Father.’ But this is not so; far from it! For the Son and the Father are one, since they are not different in quality; but the soul and [the Son] are other both in nature and in substance, since the soul too came to be through him, being consubstantial with us. For if in the way that the Father and the Son are one, in this way the soul and the Son too are one, as Origen holds, then the soul too, like the Son, will be the radiance of the glory of God and the stamp of his hypostasis. But this is impossible; it is impossible, then, for the Son and his soul to be one, as he and the Father are one. And what will he do, falling foul of himself again? For he writes thus: ‘Surely the soul that was troubled and very sorrowful was not the Only-begotten and firstborn of all creation. For God the Word, being superior to the soul, the Son himself, says: I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it.’ If, then, the Son is superior to his own soul, as he is indeed confessed to be, how is his soul equal to God and in his form? For [he writes]: ‘We say that it is the soul that emptied itself and took the form of a servant …’ of the other heretics happened, as we indicated. For if the Word exists in the form of God and is equal to God, and he thinks that the Savior's soul exists in the form of God and equal to God, having dared to write so, how is the equal superior? For things inferior in nature testify that what is above them is superior.”
John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:26 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 10:27 (quotation, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:44 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 12:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 26:38 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: A fragment on John 5:19: the risen Christ entered through shut doors and showed his wounds to prove that his body was the same but transformed; then passages against Origen's view that Christ's soul is one with the Word as the Son is one with the Father.
- Florilegium. Quotations: two more passages from the discourse on 'The Son can do nothing of himself' (the same source as in 1.28, probably Amphilochius of Iconium); and passages 'from the writings against Origen' whose author is not named in this text (the heading as printed has no name). The views attributed to Origen (that Christ's soul emptied itself and was 'in the form of God') are the polemicist's report, translated as written. Migne's notes and Latin column read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: John 5:19; John 20:19, 26–27; Mark 10:27; 1 Cor 15:44; John 10:30; John 14:9; Heb 1:3; John 12:27; Matt 26:38; Col 1:15; John 10:18; Phil 2:6–7.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word; marginal references and Migne's notes on variant readings read into the text; stray letters inside a word; stray page reference): κσ, 19. " μυστ. 1 οα. Βοη. οἱ πὴ ἢ. ]. Πα οὶ οἰ. Θεοῦ. Εά. Ῥατίβ. πάντων τῶν ὄντων. Εά. Ἀοηϊ. οἱ → ; ρ. 00, → ; νενεκρωμέ- ἴρϑουπι φιΐάοπι, υἱ νον → νενεκρωμένον; ἀπαύγα- αὶ σμα → ἀπαύγασμα.
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.38 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-38
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.39PG 83
Τοῦ ἁγίου Ἰωάγγου τοῦ Χρυσοστόμου, ἐπισκό- ᾿Απὸ λόγου ἐν τῇ μεγάλῃ ἐκκιϊιησίᾳ Καὶ ὁ μὲν Δεσπότης σου εἰς οὐρανὸν ἀνήγαγεν ἄνθρωπον, σὺ δὲ οὔτε ἀγορᾶς αὐτῷ μεταδί-δως. Καὶ τί λέγω εἰς οὐρανόν; εἰς θρόνον ἐκάθισε βασιλικὸν, σὺ δὲ καὶ τῆς πόλεως ἐξελαύνεις. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, εἰς τὴν ἀρχὴν τοῦ μα ψαλμοῦ. Οὐ παύεται Παῦλος μέχρι τῆς σήμερον λέγων, ε« Ὑπὲρ Χριστοῦ πρεσδεύομεν, ὡς τοῦ Θεοῦ παρακαλοῦντος δι᾽ ἡμῶν, δεόμεθα ὑπὲρ Χριστοῦ, χαταλλάγητε τῷ Θεῷ. ν Καὶ οὐδὲ ἐνταῦθα ἕστη, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀπὸ τῆς φύσεως τῆς σΐῇς λαδὼν ἀπαρχὴν, ἐκάθισεν ἄνω πάσης ἀρχῆς, καὶ ἐξουσίας, καὶ δυγάμεως, καὶ παντὸς ὀνόματος ὀνομαζξομένον, οὐ μόνον ἐν τῷ αἰῶνι τούτῳ, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐν τῷ μέλλοντι. Τί ταύτης ἴσον γένοιτ᾽ ἂν τῇς τιμῆς; Ἡ ἀπαρχὴ τοὺ γένους ἡμῶν, τοῦ τοσαῦτα προσχεχρουχότος, τοῦ τιμωμένου, ἐν ὕψει τοσούτῳ κάθτται, καὶ τοσαύτης ἀπολαύει τιμῆς. - Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, περὶ τῆς γήωσσῶγν διαιρέσεως. ᾿Ἔννόησον γὰρ, οἷον ἔστιν ἰδεῖν τὴν ἡμετέραν φύσιν ἐπὶ τοῦ Χερουδὶμ ὀχουμένην, καὶ πᾶσαν αὑτῇ τὴν ἀγγελικὴν πέεριχεχυμένην δύναμιν. Σκόπει δὲ καὶ Παύλου σοφίαν, πόσα ὀνόματα ἐπιζητεῖ, ὥστε παραστῆσαι τοῦ Χριστοῦ τὴν φιλαυθρωπίαν. Οὐ γὰρ εἶπεν ἁπλῶς τὴν χάριν, οὐδὲ τὸν πιλοῦτοχν ἁπλῶς, ἀλλὰ τὸν ὑπερδώ,οντα πιοῦτον τῆς χάριτος ἐν χρηστότητι. -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἀπὸ ( δογματικοῦ «ἰόγου, ὅτι τὰ ταπεινῶς εἰρημένα καὶ γεγενημένα παρὰ Χριστοῦ, οὐ δι ἀσθένειαν δυνάμεως ἐγίγνετο καὶ ἐλέγετο, ἀ..λὰ δι’ οἰκονομίας διαφόρους. Καὶ Ο μετὰ τὴν ἀνάστασιν, τὸν μαθητὴν ἰδὼν ἀπιστοῦντα, οὐ παρῃτήσατο αὑτῷ καὶ τραύματα καὶ τύπον ἥλων ἐπιδεῖξαι, καὶ χειρὸς ἀφῇ τὰς ὠτειλὰς καὶ εἶπεν, « Ἐρεύνησον, καὶ ἴδε, ὅτι πνεῦμα σάρκα καὶ ὁστέα οὐκ ἔχει. » Διὰ τοῦτο οὔτε ἐξ ἀρχῆς τελείας ἡλικίας τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἀνέλαδεν, ἀλλ᾽ ἠνέσχετο καὶ συλληφθῆναι, καὶ τεχθῆναι, καὶ γαλαχτοτροφηθῆναι, ᾿καὶ τοσοῦτο" χρόνον ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς διατρίψαι, ἵνα καὶ τῷ μήκει τοῦ χρόνου, καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις ἅπασι τοῦτο αὐτὸ πιστώσηται.--- Τοῦ αὖτοῦ, πρὸς τοὺς λέγοντας, ὅτι δαίμονες τὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων διοικοῦσιν. Οὐδὲν ἣν εὐτελέστερον ἀνθρώπου, καὶ οὐδὲν γέγονε τιμιώτερον ἀνθρώπον. Τὸ ἔσχατον μέρος τῆς λογικῇς κτίσεως οὗτος ἦν. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οἱ πόδες ἐγένοντο κεφαλὴ, καὶ εἰς τὸν θρόνον ἀνηνέχθησαν τὸν βασιλικὸν διὰ τῆς ἀπαρχῆς. Καθάπερ γὰρ ἄνθρωπος φιλότιμός τις καὶ μεγαλόδωρος, ἰδών τινα ἐκ ναυαγίου διαφυγόντα, καὶ τὸ σῶμα γυμνὸν ὑπὸ τῶν κυμάτων διασῶσαι δυνηθέντα μόνον, δεξάμενος ὑπτίαις ταῖς χερσὶ, λαμπρᾷ ( περιδάλλει τῇ στολῇ, καὶ πρὸς τιμὴν ἄγει ἀνωτάτωοὕτω καὶ ὁ Θεὸς ἐπὶ τῆς φύτεως τῆς ἡμετέρας ἐποίησε. Πάντα ἀπέδαλεν ὅσα εἶχεν ὁ ἄνθρωπος, τὴν παῤῥησίαν, τὴν πρὸς Θεὸν ὁμιλίαν, τὴν ἐν παραδείσῳ διαγωγὴν, τὸν ἀταλαίπωρον βίον, καὶ καθάπερ ἐκ ναναγίου γυμνὸς, οὕτως ἐξῆλθεν ἐκεῖθεν, ᾿Αλλ᾽ ὁ Θεὸς αὐτὸν δεξάμενος, περιέστειλεν εὐθέως, καὶ κατὰ μικρὸν χειραγωγῶν, εἰς τὸν»
Tou hagiou Iōangou tou Chrysostomou, episko- ᾿Apo logou en tę̄ megalę̄ ekkiïiēsią Kai ho men Despotēs sou eis ouranon anēgagen anthrōpon, sy de oute agoras autǭ metadi-dōs. Kai ti legō eis ouranon? eis thronon ekathise basilikon, sy de kai tēs poleōs exelauneis. --- Tou autou, eis tēn archēn tou ma psalmou. Ou pauetai Paulos mechri tēs sēmeron legōn, e« Hyper Christou presdeuomen, hōs tou Theou parakalountos di᾽ hēmōn, deometha hyper Christou, chatallagēte tǭ Theǭ. n Kai oude entautha hestē, alla kai apo tēs physeōs tēs sïę̄s ladōn aparchēn, ekathisen anō pasēs archēs, kai exousias, kai dygameōs, kai pantos onomatos onomazxomenon, ou monon en tǭ aiōni toutǭ, alla kai en tǭ mellonti. Ti tautēs ison genoit᾽ an tę̄s timēs? Hē aparchē tou genous hēmōn, tou tosauta proschechrouchotos, tou timōmenou, en hypsei tosoutǭ kathttai, kai tosautēs apolauei timēs. - Tou autou, peri tēs gēōssōgn diaireseōs. ᾿Ennoēson gar, hoion estin idein tēn hēmeteran physin epi tou Cheroudim ochoumenēn, kai pasan hautę̄ tēn angelikēn peerichechymenēn dynamin. Skopei de kai Paulou sophian, posa onomata epizētei, hōste parastēsai tou Christou tēn philauthrōpian. Ou gar eipen haplōs tēn charin, oude ton piloutochn haplōs, alla ton hyperdō,onta piouton tēs charitos en chrēstotēti. -- Tou autou, apo ( dogmatikou «iogou, hoti ta tapeinōs eirēmena kai gegenēmena para Christou, ou di astheneian dynameōs egigneto kai elegeto, a..la di’ oikonomias diaphorous. Kai O meta tēn anastasin, ton mathētēn idōn apistounta, ou parę̄tēsato hautǭ kai traumata kai typon hēlōn epideixai, kai cheiros aphę̄ tas ōteilas kai eipen, « Ereunēson, kai ide, hoti pneuma sarka kai hostea ouk echei. » Dia touto oute ex archēs teleias hēlikias ton anthrōpon aneladen, all᾽ ēnescheto kai syllēphthēnai, kai techthēnai, kai galachtotrophēthēnai, ᾿kai tosouto" chronon epi tēs gēs diatripsai, hina kai tǭ mēkei tou chronou, kai tois allois hapasi touto auto pistōsētai.--- Tou autou, pros tous legontas, hoti daimones ta tōn anthrōpōn dioikousin. Ouden hēn eutelesteron anthrōpou, kai ouden gegone timiōteron anthrōpon. To eschaton meros tēs logikę̄s ktiseōs houtos ēn. ᾿All᾽ hoi podes egenonto kephalē, kai eis ton thronon anēnechthēsan ton basilikon dia tēs aparchēs. Kathaper gar anthrōpos philotimos tis kai megalodōros, idōn tina ek nauagiou diaphygonta, kai to sōma gymnon hypo tōn kymatōn diasōsai dynēthenta monon, dexamenos hyptiais tais chersi, lamprą ( peridallei tę̄ stolę̄, kai pros timēn agei anōtatōoutō kai ho Theos epi tēs phyteōs tēs hēmeteras epoiēse. Panta apedalen hosa eichen ho anthrōpos, tēn parrhēsian, tēn pros Theon homilian, tēn en paradeisǭ diagōgēn, ton atalaipōron bion, kai kathaper ek nanagiou gymnos, houtōs exēlthen ekeithen, ᾿All᾽ ho Theos auton dexamenos, periesteilen eutheōs, kai kata mikron cheiragōgōn, eis ton»
Of holy John Chrysostom, bishop [of Constantinople]. From a discourse in the Great Church: “… And your Master took the human being up into heaven, while you do not even let him share the marketplace. And why do I say into heaven? He seated him on a royal throne, while you drive him even out of the city.” Of the same, on the beginning of the forty-first psalm: “Paul does not cease, to this day, saying, ‘We are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were appealing through us; we beseech you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God.’ And he did not stop even there, but, taking firstfruits from your nature, he seated it above every rule and authority and power and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. What could equal this honor? The firstfruits of our race, which had offended so much and is now honored, sits at such a height, and enjoys such honor.” Of the same, on the division of tongues: “Consider what it is to see our nature riding on the cherubim, and all the angelic power poured around it. And see Paul's wisdom too, how many words he seeks out to present Christ's love for humankind. For he did not say simply ‘grace,’ nor simply ‘riches,’ but ‘the surpassing riches of grace in kindness.’” Of the same, from the dogmatic discourse “That the things said and done by Christ in a lowly manner were done and said not through weakness of power, but for various purposes of the dispensation”: “And after the resurrection, seeing the disciple disbelieving, he did not refuse to show him the wounds and the print of the nails, and the scars to the touch of his hand, and he said, ‘Search and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones.’ For this reason he did not assume the human being at full age from the beginning, but endured being conceived, and born, and nursed with milk, and spending so long a time on earth, so that by the length of the time and by all the rest he might confirm this very thing.” Of the same, to those who say that demons govern human affairs: “Nothing was cheaper than the human being, and nothing has become more honored than the human being. He was the last part of the rational creation. But the feet have become the head, and have been brought up to the royal throne through the firstfruits. For just as a generous and munificent man, seeing someone who has escaped from shipwreck and could save from the waves only his naked body, receives him with open arms, clothes him in a splendid robe, and leads him to the highest honor, so God too has done in the case of our nature. The human being had thrown away all that he had: his freedom of speech, his converse with God, his life in paradise, his life free of hardship; and like a man naked from shipwreck, so he went out from there. But God received him and clothed him at once, and, leading him by the hand little by little, brought him up into
2 Cor 5:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 18:10 (17:11 LXX) (allusion, low confidence) · Eph 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:23 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: John Chrysostom: our nature, the firstfruits of the race, has been raised to the royal throne above every power; Christ showed his wounds after the resurrection to confirm his true flesh; God clothed shipwrecked humanity and led it up to heaven.
- Florilegium. Quotations from John Chrysostom: a homily preached 'in the Great Church' (part of the heading is lost in the OCR); On Psalm 41 (Ps 42 in Protestant numbering); on the division of tongues (Pentecost); the 'dogmatic discourse' on Christ's lowly sayings; against those who say that demons govern human affairs (the passage continues in the next section). Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: 2 Cor 5:20; Eph 1:21; Ps 18:10 (LXX 17:11; riding on the cherubim, allusion); Eph 2:7; John 20:27; Luke 24:39; Gen 3:23–24.
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Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.39 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.40PG 83
οὐρανὸν ἀνήγαγεν. ---Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.16γου. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ὁ Θεὸς μείζονα τῆς ζημίας τὴν ἐμπορίαν ἐποιήσατο" καὶ πρὸς τὸν θρόνον τὸν βασιλ!:χὸν τὴν φύσιν ἀνήγαγς τὴν ἡμετέραν. Καὶ (δ4) Παῦλος βοᾷ λέγων, ε Συνήγειρε καὶ συνεκάθισεν ἐν δεξιᾷ αὑτοῦ ἐν τοῖς ἐπουρανίοις. » ---- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, εἰς τοὺς τὰ πρῶτα πάσχα γηστεύοντας. ᾿Ανέῳξε τοὺς οὐρανοὺς, τοὺς μισουμένους φίλους ἐποίησεν, εἰς τὸν οὐρανὸν ἐπανήγαγεν, ἐν δεξιᾷ τοῦ θρόνον ἐκάθισε τὴν φύσιν τὴν ἡμετέραν, μυρία ἕτερα παρέσχεν ἡμῖν ἀγαθά. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ εἰς τὴν ἀνάληψιν ἰόγου. Εἰς τοῦτο οὖν τὸ διάστημα καὶ τὸ ὕψος, τὴν φύσιν τὴν ἡμετέραν ἀνήγαγε. Βλέπε ποῦ κάτω ἔκειτο, καὶ ποῦ ἄνω ἀνέδη. Οὔτε χαταδῆναι ἣν κατώτερον οὗ χατέδη ἄνθρωπος, ρὸν οὗ ἀνέγαγεν αὐτὸν πάλιν. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς δρμηγνείας τῆς πρὸς Ἐφεσίους ἐπιστολῆς. Κατὰ «τὴν εὐδοκίαν αὐτοῦ, φησὶν, ἣν προέθετο ἐν αὐτῷ, τουτέστιν, ὅ ἐπεθύμει, τοῦτο ὥδινεν, ὡς ἄν τις εἴτοι, ἐξειπεῖν ἡμῖν τὸ μυστήριον. Πυῖΐον δὲ τοῦτο; ὅτι ἄνθρωπον ἄνω καθίσαι βούλεται" ὃ δὴ καὶ γέγονεν. -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὐτῆς ἁρμηνϑβίας. Ἰερὶ τούτου φῃσὶν ὁ Θεὸς τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, οὗ περὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγον. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὑτῆς ἁρμηγείας. « Καὶ ὄντας ἡμᾶς νεκροὺς τοῖς καραπτώμασι συνεζωσποίησε τῷ Χριστῷ. » Καὶ πάλιν ὁ Χριστὸς μέσος, καὶ τὸ πρᾶγμα ἀξιόπιστον. Εἰ γὰρ ἡ ἀρχὴ ζῇ, καὶ ἡμεῖς " ἐξωοποίησε χἀκχεῖνον, καὶ ἡμᾶς" ὁρᾷς ὅτι περὶ τοῦ κατὰ σάρκα πάντα εἴρηται; -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ κατὸ Ἰωάγγην Εὐαγγελίου. Τί γχρὲπάγει, ε Καὶ ἐσκήνωσεν ἐν ἡμῖν; » μονονουχὶ λέγων, Μηδὲν ἄτοπον ὑποπτεύσῃς ἀπὸ τοῦ ἐγένετο. Οὐ γὰρ τροκὴν εἶπον τῆς ἀτρέπτου φύσεως ἐκείνης, ἀλλὰ σχήνωσιν καὶ κατοίκησιν. Τὸ δὲ σχηνοῦν, οὐ ταὶ τὸν ἂν εἴη τῇ σκηνῇ᾽ ἀλλ᾽ ἕτερον ἐν ἑτέρῳ σχτνοῖζ᾽ ἐπεὶ οὐδ᾽ ἂν εἴη σχήνωσις. Οὐδὲν γὰρ ἐν ἑαυτῷ κατοικεῖ. “Ἕτερον δὲ εἶπον κατὰ τὴν οὐσίαν. Τῇ γὰρ ἑνώσει, καὶ τῇ συναφείᾳ, ἕν ἐστιν ὁ Θεὸς Λόγος καὶ ἡ σὰρξ, οὗ συγχύσεως γενομένης, οὐδὲ ἀφανισμοῦ τῶν οὐσιῶν, ἀλλ᾽ ἑνώσεως ἀῤῥήτου τινὸς καὶ ἀφράστου. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ κατὰ Ματθαῖον Εὐαγγελίου. Καὶ καθάπερ τις, ἐν μεταιχμίῳ στὰς δύο τινῶν ἀλλήλων διεστηκότων, ἀμφοτέρας ἀπλώσας τὰς χεῖρας, ἑκατέρωθεν λαδὼν συνάψειεν' οὕτω καὶ αὐτὸς ἐποίησε, τὴν παλαιὰν τῇ καινῇ συνάπτων, τὴν θείαν φύσιν τῇ ἀνθρωπίνῃ, τὰ αὑτοῦ τοῖς ἡμετέροις.
ouranon anēgagen. ---Tou autou, ek tou autou.16gou. ᾿All᾽ ho Theos meizona tēs zēmias tēn emporian epoiēsato" kai pros ton thronon ton basil!:chon tēn physin anēgags tēn hēmeteran. Kai (d4) Paulos boą legōn, e Synēgeire kai synekathisen en dexią hautou en tois epouraniois. » ---- Tou autou, eis tous ta prōta pascha gēsteuontas. ᾿Aneǭxe tous ouranous, tous misoumenous philous epoiēsen, eis ton ouranon epanēgagen, en dexią tou thronon ekathise tēn physin tēn hēmeteran, myria hetera pareschen hēmin agatha. --- Tou autou, ek tou eis tēn analēpsin iogou. Eis touto oun to diastēma kai to hypsos, tēn physin tēn hēmeteran anēgage. Blepe pou katō ekeito, kai pou anō anedē. Oute chatadēnai hēn katōteron hou chatedē anthrōpos, ron hou anegagen auton palin. --- Tou hautou, ek tēs drmēgneias tēs pros Ephesious epistolēs. Kata «tēn eudokian autou, phēsin, hēn proetheto en autǭ, toutestin, ho epethymei, touto hōdinen, hōs an tis eitoi, exeipein hēmin to mystērion. Puiïon de touto? hoti anthrōpon anō kathisai bouletai" ho dē kai gegonen. -- Tou autou, ek tēs autēs harmēnϑbias. Ieri toutou phę̄sin ho Theos tou Kyriou hēmōn Iēsou Christou, hou peri tou Theou Logon. --- Tou autou, ek tēs hautēs harmēgeias. « Kai ontas hēmas nekrous tois karaptōmasi synezōspoiēse tǭ Christǭ. » Kai palin ho Christos mesos, kai to pragma axiopiston. Ei gar hē archē zę̄, kai hēmeis " exōopoiēse chakcheinon, kai hēmas" horąs hoti peri tou kata sarka panta eirētai? -- Tou autou, ek tou kato Iōangēn Euangeliou. Ti nchrepagei, e Kai eskēnōsen en hēmin? » mononouchi legōn, Mēden atopon hypopteusę̄s apo tou egeneto. Ou gar trokēn eipon tēs atreptou physeōs ekeinēs, alla schēnōsin kai katoikēsin. To de schēnoun, ou tai ton an eiē tę̄ skēnę̄᾽ all᾽ heteron en heterǭ schtnoiz᾽ epei oud᾽ an eiē schēnōsis. Ouden gar en heautǭ katoikei. “Heteron de eipon kata tēn ousian. Tę̄ gar henōsei, kai tę̄ synapheią, hen estin ho Theos Logos kai hē sarx, hou synchyseōs genomenēs, oude aphanismou tōn ousiōn, all᾽ henōseōs arrhētou tinos kai aphrastou. --- Tou autou, ek tou kata Matthaion Euangeliou. Kai kathaper tis, en metaichmiǭ stas dyo tinōn allēlōn diestēkotōn, amphoteras aplōsas tas cheiras, hekaterōthen ladōn synapseien' houtō kai autos epoiēse, tēn palaian tę̄ kainę̄ synaptōn, tēn theian physin tę̄ anthrōpinę̄, ta hautou tois hēmeterois.
heaven.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “But God made the gain greater than the loss, and brought our nature up to the royal throne. And Paul cries out, saying, ‘He raised us up with him and seated us at his right hand in the heavenly places.’” Of the same, to those who fast at the first Passover: “He opened the heavens, made friends of those who were hated, brought [them] back up to heaven, seated our nature at the right hand of the throne, and provided us with countless other good things.” Of the same, from the discourse on the Ascension: “To this distance and height, then, he brought up our nature. See where it lay below, and where it went up above. It was not possible to go down lower than where the human being went down, nor … higher than where he brought him up again.” Of the same, from the interpretation of the letter to the Ephesians: “‘According to his good pleasure,’ he says, ‘which he purposed in him’; that is, what he desired; he was in travail, as one might say, to tell us the mystery. And what is this? That he wishes to seat a human being on high; which indeed has happened.” Of the same, from the same interpretation: “Concerning this one he says ‘the God of our Lord Jesus Christ,’ not concerning God the Word.” Of the same, from the same interpretation: “‘And when we were dead in trespasses, he made us alive together with Christ.’ Again Christ is in the middle, and the matter is credible. For if the beginning lives, so do we; he made him alive, and us. Do you see that everything is said of what is according to the flesh?” Of the same, from [the interpretation of] the Gospel according to John: “Why does he add, ‘And he dwelt among us’? As if to say: Suspect nothing absurd from ‘became.’ For I did not speak of a change of that immutable nature, but of a tenting and a dwelling. And what tents cannot be the same as the tent, but one thing tents in another; otherwise there would be no tenting, for nothing dwells in itself. And I said ‘another’ according to substance. For by the union and the conjunction God the Word and the flesh are one, no confusion having taken place, nor any disappearance of the substances, but a union ineffable and inexpressible.” Of the same, from [the interpretation of] the Gospel according to Matthew: “And just as someone standing between two parties set apart from each other, stretching out both hands and taking hold of each side, would join them, so he too did, joining the old to the new, the divine nature to the human, his own things to ours.”
Eph 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 2:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: More of John Chrysostom: God raised our nature to the throne; 'the God of our Lord Jesus Christ' refers to the flesh; the Word 'dwelt' in the flesh as one thing in another, united without confusion; Christ joins the divine nature to the human like one joining two parties with his hands.
- Florilegium. Quotations from John Chrysostom: against those who say demons govern human affairs (end); On those who fast at the first Passover; On the Ascension; Homilies on Ephesians 1, 3, 4 (passages on Eph 1:9, 1:17, 2:5; homily numbers approximate); Homilies on John 11.2; Homilies on Matthew (not identified further). Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections); a few lost words are marked '…'. Scripture: Eph 2:6; Eph 1:9; Eph 1:17; Eph 2:5; John 1:14.
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- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's notes (variant wording of an earlier quotation) and Latin column read into the text): οἱ ἴῃ ποὸοἵ 08. Ουγ οηΐπὶ δαάϊ!: « Εἰ παρ ίανὶϊ ἰὴ ποῦ ἰῃἃ 858 ἰη → ; Ὁ 16 818 ἢ σὰρξ → ἡ σὰρξ; ὃ. “αν τὶ τῆλ πρὸς Θεὸν, τὴν ὁμιλίαν τὴν ἐν τῷ παρατ ϑῖγπι. ὨΔθΘ δὶ τὸν ταλαίπωρον βίον ἀντηλλάἢ οὔτ. 68. 1. (. Ἢ κ ρα θ, χ. τ. ἀἰβθεπι τοῦς. ἀσχδίδηϊ ---- “ον.οοτΐαπι: ἰἰὰ οἱ Ομγίβιαβ ἴδοῖῖ. [γᾶ 0815 αταὶ αἱ → ; Ὀου 8, οἵ 05 ἰη στα πὶ γοάυχὶ!, οἱ πᾶδιά! : « δοάθ ἃ θοχίογβ πιϑὶβ"", » οἱ αυῷ 114 πἃστῶ, ουἱ ἀϊχὶῖ : «Τοῦ 65, δὲ ἴῃ ἰδ τὸ → .
Extrabiblical texts: Chrysostom, Hom. Jo. 11.2 (Homilies on John; quotation); Chrysostom, Hom. Eph. 1-4 (Homilies on Ephesians; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.40 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.41PG 83
-- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, εἰς τὴν ἀνάληψιν τοῦ Χριστοῦ. Καθπερ γὰρ δύο τινῶν ἁψιμαχίᾳ διαστάντων, ἕτεμάχην τε καὶ διχόνοιαν" οὕτω καὶ ὁ Χριστὸς ἐ ποίησεν. Ὠργίζετο ἡμῖν ὡς θεὸς, ἡμεῖς δὲ τῆς αὐὖτοῦ χατεφρονοῦμεν ὀργῆς, τὸν φιλάνθρωπον Δεσπότὴν ἀποστρεφόμενοι" καὶ μέσον ἑαυτὸν ἐμόαλὼν ὁ Χριστὸς, ἑκατέραν φύσιν εἰς φιλίαν συνήγαγε, καὶ τὴν παρὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐπικειμένην ἡμῖν αὐτὸς τιμωρίαν ὑπέμεινεν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὑεοῦ λόγου. Προσήνεγκε τοίνυν τὰς ἀπαρχὰς τῆς ἡμετέρας φύσεως τῷ Πατρὶ, καὶ τὸ δῶρον αὐτὸς ὁ ἐθαύμασε, διά γε τὴν τοσαύτην ἀξίαν τοῦ προσχομέσαντος, καὶ τοῦ προσενεχθέντος τὸ ἄμωμον. Καὶ γὰρ οἰκείαις ἐδέξατο τοῦτο χερσὶ, καὶ τοῦ θρόνου μέτοχον εἶναι τοῦ οἰκείου πεποίηκε. Καὶ τὸ πλέον, ἐν τῷ τῆς ἑαυτοῦ δὲξιᾶς αὐτὸ μέρει χαθίδρυσεν. Οὐκοῦν ἐπιγνῶμεν, τίς ἐκεῖνος ὁ ἀκούσας ἐστὶ. « Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου"» τίς ἣν ἡ φύσις ἐκείνη, πρὸς ἣν εἶπε, ε Γῆ εἶ καὶ εἰς γῆν ἀπελεύσῃ.» -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, μετ᾽ ὁνλίγα. Ποίῳ χρήσομαι λόγῳ, ποίοις φθέγξομαι ῥήμασιν, ἀγνοῶ. Ἡ φύσις ἡ σαθρὰ, ὃ φύσις ἡ εὐτελὴς, ἣ πάντων ἐλάσσων ἀποδειχθεῖσα, πάντα νενίκηκεν, ὑπερέθαλεν ἅπαντα. Σήμερον ἀνωτέρα γενέσθαι πάντων ἠξίωται, σήμερον ἀπέλαθεν ὅπερ ἐπὶ χρόνον πολὺν ἐπεθύμησαν ἄγγελοι, σήμερον ἀρχάγγελοι τῶν ἐπὶ πολὺ ποθουκνῤένων θεαταὶ γενέσθαι δεδύνηνται, καὶ τὴν φύσιν τὴν ἡμῶν ἐν τῷ θρόνῳ τοῦ βασιλέως τῇ δόξῃ τῆς ἀθανα" τοῦ κατὰ Λουκᾶν Εὐαγγεκλίου. Ἐν πᾶσιν ἡμῖν ὁ Κύριος ὑπογράφει τὸν τῆς εὖὑἡμετέρᾳ φύσει τὰς τῆς σωτηρίας ὁδούς " καὶ πολλὰς ἡμῖν καὶ ἐναργεῖς ἀποδείξεις παρέχει τῆς τε σωματιχῆῇς αὑτοῦ ἐπιφοιτήσεως, καὶ τῆς διὰ σώματος ἐνεργούσης θεότητος. ᾿Αμφοτέρας γὰρ αὐτοῦ ἐδούλετο πιστώσασθαι τὰς φύσεις. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, εἰς τὰ Θεοφάγια (Ὀ5). « Τίς ὡς ἀληθῶς λαλήσει τὰς δυναστείας τοῦ Κυρίου, ἀχουστὰς ποιήσει πάσας τὰς αἱνέσεις αὑτοῦ :» Τίς ἂν λόγῳ παραστήσειε τῆς εἰς ἡμᾶς εὐεργεσίας τὸ μέγεθος; ᾿Ανθρωπεία φύσις θεότητι συνάπτεται, μενούσης ἐφ᾽ ἑαυτῆς ξχατέρας τῆς φύσεως. Κυρίου ἐπισκόπου Ἱεροσολύμων. Ἐκ τοῦ κατηχητιχοῦ τετάρτου «όγου, περὶ ((. τῶν δέκα δογμάτων Περὶ τῆς ἐκ Παρθένου γεγγήσεως. Πίστενε δὲ, ὅτι οὗτος ὁ μονογενὴς ΥἹὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ, διὰ τὰς ἀμαρτίας ἡμῶν, ἐξ οὐρανῶν κατῆλθεν ἐπὶ “ἣν γῆν, τὴν ὁμοιοπαθῇ ταύτην ἡμῖν ἀναλαδὼν ἀνθρωπότητα, καὶ γεννηθεὶς ἐξ ἁγίας Παρθένου καὶ ἁγίου Πνεύματος, οὐ δοκήσει καὶ φαντασίᾳ τῆς ἐνανθρωπήσεως γενομένης, ἀλλὰ τῇ ἀληθείᾳ" οὐδ᾽ ὥσπερ διὰ σωλῆνος διελθὼν τῆς Παρθένον, ἀλλὰ σαρκωθεὶς ἀληθῶς; ἐξ αὐτῆς, φαγὼν ὡς ἡμεῖς ἀληθῶς, καὶ γαλαχτοτροφηθεὶς ἀληθῶς ἐξ αὐτῆς. Εἰ γὰρ φαντασία ἦν ἢ ἐνανθρώπησις, φάντασμα καὶ ἡ σωτηρία, Διπλοῦς ἦν ὁ Χριστὸς, ἄνθρωπος μὲν, τὸ φαινόμενον, Θεὸς δὲ, τὸ μὴ φαινόμενον" ἐσθίων μὲν, ὡς ἄνθρωπος, ἀληθῶς ὡς ἡμεῖς" εἶχε γὰρ τῆς σαρκὸς τὸ ὁμοιοπαθὲς ὡς ἡμεῖς " τρέφων δὲ ἐκ πέντε ἄρτων τοὺς πεντακισχιλίους, ὡς θεός" ἀποθνήσκων μὲν ὡς ἄνθρωπος ἀληθῶς " νεκρὸν δὲ τετραήμερον ἐγείρων ὡς Θεός" καθεύδων εἰς τὸ πλοῖον ὡς ἄνθρωπο;, καὶ περιπατῶν ἐπὶ τῶν ὑδάτων ὡς Θεός. Μὴ συγχέῃς τὰς φύσεις, καὶ οὐ ναρχήσεις περὶ τὴν οἰκονομίαν. ἐν κῷ περὶ πίστεως θ' «όγῳ. Οὐκ οἷδεν ὄντως τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ζωὴν, ὃς Ἰησοῦν τὸν Χριστὸν ὡς ἀληθῇ θεὸν, οὕτως καὶ ἀληθή ἄνθρωπον οὐκ ἐπίσταται. Τοῦ γὰρ αὑτοῦ κινδύνου τὸ πρᾶγμα τυγχάνει, ἐὰν Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν, ἣ Πνεῦμα θεὸν, ἣ σάρκα τοῦ ἡμετέρου ἀρνησώμεθα σώματος. τοιγαροῦν, ὃς ἂν ὁμολογήσῃ με ἔμπροσθεν τῶν ἀνθρώπων, χἀγὼ ὁμολογήσω αὐτὸν ἔμπροσθεν τοῦ Πατρός μου τοῦ ἕν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς " ὃς δ᾽ ἂν ἁπαρνῆσηταί με ἔμπροσθεν τῶν ἀνθρώπων, χἀγὼ ἀρνήσο- ν μαι αὐτὸν ἔμπροσθεν τοῦ Πατρός μου τοῦ ἐν οὐρανοῖς.» Ταῦτα ὁ Λόγος σὰρξ γενόμενος ἔλεγε, καὶ ἄνθρωπος Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς ὁ Κύριος τῆς δόξης ἐδίδασκε, πρὸς τὴν τῆς Ἐκκλησίας σωτηρίαν μεσίτης αὐτὸς ὑπάρχων ἐν αὐτῷ τῷ μυστηρίῳ, δι᾿ οὗπερ Θεῷ καὶ ἀνθρώποις ἐμεσίτευσεν. Εἷς τυγχάνων τὸ συναμφότερον, ἐκ τῶν ἑνωθεισῶν εἰς αὐτὸ τοῦτο δὲ φύσεων ἣν καὶ ταὐτὸν δι᾽ ἑκατέρας φύσεως ὦν. Πλὴν οὕτως ὡς ἐν ἑκατέρῳ μηδετέρου χηρεύειν, μή πως παύσηται Θεὸς εἶναι τικτόμενος ἄνθρωπος, ἢ πάλιν ἄνθρωπος οὐκὶ τῷ διαμένειν Θεός. Οὐκοῦν, τοῦτο τῆς ἐν ἀνθρώποις ἀληθοῦς πίστεως τὸ μακάριον, τὸ τὸν μὲν Θεὸν καὶ ἄνθρωπον κηρύττει), τὴν δὲ σάρκα καὶ Λόγον ὁμολογεῖν, καὶ τὸν μὲν Θεὸν εἰδέναι, ὅτι καὶ ἄνθρωπος εἴη, καὶ τὴν σάρκα μὴ ἀγνοεῖν, ὅτι
-- Tou autou, eis tēn analēpsin tou Christou. Kathper gar dyo tinōn hapsimachią diastantōn, hetemachēn te kai dichonoian" houtō kai ho Christos e poiēsen. Ōrgizeto hēmin hōs theos, hēmeis de tēs auytou chatephronoumen orgēs, ton philanthrōpon Despotēn apostrephomenoi" kai meson heauton emoalōn ho Christos, hekateran physin eis philian synēgage, kai tēn para tou Patros epikeimenēn hēmin autos timōrian hypemeinen. --- Tou autou, ek tou haueou logou. Prosēnenke toinyn tas aparchas tēs hēmeteras physeōs tǭ Patri, kai to dōron autos ho ethaumase, dia ge tēn tosautēn axian tou proschomesantos, kai tou prosenechthentos to amōmon. Kai gar oikeiais edexato touto chersi, kai tou thronou metochon einai tou oikeiou pepoiēke. Kai to pleon, en tǭ tēs heautou dexias auto merei chathidrysen. Oukoun epignōmen, tis ekeinos ho akousas esti. « Kathou ek dexiōn mou"» tis hēn hē physis ekeinē, pros hēn eipe, e Gē ei kai eis gēn apeleusę̄.» -- Tou autou, met᾽ honliga. Poiǭ chrēsomai logǭ, poiois phthenxomai rhēmasin, agnoō. Hē physis hē sathra, ho physis hē eutelēs, hē pantōn elassōn apodeichtheisa, panta nenikēken, hyperethalen hapanta. Sēmeron anōtera genesthai pantōn ēxiōtai, sēmeron apelathen hoper epi chronon polyn epethymēsan angeloi, sēmeron archangeloi tōn epi poly pothouknrenōn theatai genesthai dedynēntai, kai tēn physin tēn hēmōn en tǭ thronǭ tou basileōs tę̄ doxę̄ tēs athana" tou kata Loukan Euangekliou. En pasin hēmin ho Kyrios hypographei ton tēs euyēmeterą physei tas tēs sōtērias hodous " kai pollas hēmin kai enargeis apodeixeis parechei tēs te sōmatichēę̄s hautou epiphoitēseōs, kai tēs dia sōmatos energousēs theotētos. ᾿Amphoteras gar autou edouleto pistōsasthai tas physeis. --- Tou autou, eis ta Theophagia (O5). « Tis hōs alēthōs lalēsei tas dynasteias tou Kyriou, achoustas poiēsei pasas tas haineseis hautou :» Tis an logǭ parastēseie tēs eis hēmas euergesias to megethos? ᾿Anthrōpeia physis theotēti synaptetai, menousēs eph᾽ heautēs xchateras tēs physeōs. Kyriou episkopou Hierosolymōn. Ek tou katēchētichou tetartou «ogou, peri ((. tōn deka dogmatōn Peri tēs ek Parthenou gengēseōs. Pistene de, hoti houtos ho monogenēs HuIos tou Theou, dia tas amartias hēmōn, ex ouranōn katēlthen epi “hēn gēn, tēn homoiopathę̄ tautēn hēmin analadōn anthrōpotēta, kai gennētheis ex hagias Parthenou kai hagiou Pneumatos, ou dokēsei kai phantasią tēs enanthrōpēseōs genomenēs, alla tę̄ alētheią" oud᾽ hōsper dia sōlēnos dielthōn tēs Parthenon, alla sarkōtheis alēthōs? ex autēs, phagōn hōs hēmeis alēthōs, kai galachtotrophētheis alēthōs ex autēs. Ei gar phantasia ēn ē enanthrōpēsis, phantasma kai hē sōtēria, Diplous ēn ho Christos, anthrōpos men, to phainomenon, Theos de, to mē phainomenon" esthiōn men, hōs anthrōpos, alēthōs hōs hēmeis" eiche gar tēs sarkos to homoiopathes hōs hēmeis " trephōn de ek pente artōn tous pentakischilious, hōs theos" apothnēskōn men hōs anthrōpos alēthōs " nekron de tetraēmeron egeirōn hōs Theos" katheudōn eis to ploion hōs anthrōpo?, kai peripatōn epi tōn hydatōn hōs Theos. Mē syncheę̄s tas physeis, kai ou narchēseis peri tēn oikonomian. en kǭ peri pisteōs th' «ogǭ. Ouk hoiden ontōs tēn heautou zōēn, hos Iēsoun ton Christon hōs alēthę̄ theon, houtōs kai alēthē anthrōpon ouk epistatai. Tou gar hautou kindynou to pragma tynchanei, ean Christon Iēsoun, hē Pneuma theon, hē sarka tou hēmeterou arnēsōmetha sōmatos. toigaroun, hos an homologēsę̄ me emprosthen tōn anthrōpōn, chagō homologēsō auton emprosthen tou Patros mou tou hen tois ouranois " hos d᾽ an haparnēsētai me emprosthen tōn anthrōpōn, chagō arnēso- n mai auton emprosthen tou Patros mou tou en ouranois.» Tauta ho Logos sarx genomenos elege, kai anthrōpos Iēsous Christos ho Kyrios tēs doxēs edidaske, pros tēn tēs Ekklēsias sōtērian mesitēs autos hyparchōn en autǭ tǭ mystēriǭ, di᾿ houper Theǭ kai anthrōpois emesiteusen. Heis tynchanōn to synamphoteron, ek tōn henōtheisōn eis auto touto de physeōn hēn kai tauton di᾽ hekateras physeōs ōn. Plēn houtōs hōs en hekaterǭ mēdeterou chēreuein, mē pōs pausētai Theos einai tiktomenos anthrōpos, ē palin anthrōpos ouki tǭ diamenein Theos. Oukoun, touto tēs en anthrōpois alēthous pisteōs to makarion, to ton men Theon kai anthrōpon kēryttei), tēn de sarka kai Logon homologein, kai ton men Theon eidenai, hoti kai anthrōpos eiē, kai tēn sarka mē agnoein, hoti
Of the same, on the Ascension of Christ: “For just as, when two have parted in a skirmish, … the battle and the discord, so too Christ did. He was angry with us as God, and we despised his anger, turning away from the loving Master; and Christ, putting himself in the middle, brought each nature into friendship, and himself bore the punishment laid upon us by the Father.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “He offered, then, the firstfruits of our nature to the Father, and the Father himself admired the gift, because of the great worth of the one who offered it and the blamelessness of what was offered. For he received it with his own hands, and made it share his own throne; and, what is more, he set it at his own right hand. Let us recognize, then, who it is that heard, ‘Sit at my right hand’: what that nature was to which he said, ‘You are earth, and to earth you shall return.’” Of the same, a little later: “What word I shall use, what expressions I shall utter, I do not know. The frail nature, the cheap nature, which had been shown to be the least of all, has conquered all, has surpassed all. Today it has been deemed worthy to become higher than all; today it has received what angels long desired; today archangels have been able to become spectators of what they long yearned for, and [to see] our nature on the royal throne, [shining] with the glory of immortality.” Of the same, from [the interpretation of] the Gospel according to Luke: “In all things the Lord sketches for us, in our nature, the ways of salvation; and he provides us with many clear proofs both of his bodily visitation and of the Godhead working through the body. For he wished to confirm both his natures.” Of the same, on the Theophany: “‘Who will truly speak of the mighty acts of the Lord, make all his praises heard?’ Who could present in words the greatness of his benefaction to us? Human nature is joined to the Godhead, each nature remaining by itself.” Of [Cyril], bishop of Jerusalem. From the fourth catechetical discourse, on the ten doctrines. On the birth from the Virgin: “Believe that this only-begotten Son of God, because of our sins, came down from heaven to the earth, having taken this humanity of like passions with us, and was born of the holy Virgin and the Holy Spirit, the incarnation having taken place not in seeming and appearance but in truth; not passing through the Virgin as through a pipe, but truly made flesh from her, truly eating as we do, and truly nursed with milk from her. For if the incarnation was an appearance, salvation too is a phantom. Christ was twofold: human, what was seen; God, what was not seen; eating as human, truly, as we do, for he had the same passions of the flesh as we do; but feeding the five thousand from five loaves as God; dying as human, truly; but raising one four days dead as God; sleeping in the boat as human, and walking on the waters as God. Do not confuse the natures, and you will not be stupefied about the dispensation.” … in the ninth discourse On the Faith: “He does not truly know his own life who does not know Jesus Christ as true God and so also as true human. For the matter is of the same danger, if we deny Christ Jesus either as Spirit-God or as flesh of our body. ‘Therefore whoever confesses me before human beings, I too will confess him before my Father in heaven; but whoever denies me before human beings, I too will deny him before my Father in heaven.’ These things the Word made flesh said, and the man Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, taught, being himself the mediator for the salvation of the Church in the very mystery through which he mediated between God and human beings; being one, both together, from the natures united into this very [one], and being the same through each nature; yet so that in each he lacks neither, lest he cease to be God by being born human, or again not be human by remaining God. This, then, is the blessedness of the true faith among human beings: to proclaim God and human, to confess flesh and Word, and to know God, that he is also human, and not to be ignorant of the flesh, that
Ps 110:1 (109:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:19 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 1:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 106:2 (105:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 14:21 (allusion, high confidence) · John 11:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 8:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 14:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 10:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 10:33 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Chrysostom on Christ as mediator who reconciled the two natures and offered our nature's firstfruits to the Father; Cyril of Jerusalem: 'Christ was twofold; do not confuse the natures'; and a passage (from Hilary's On the Trinity, book 9) on knowing Christ as true God and true human.
- Florilegium. Quotations: John Chrysostom, On the Ascension (three passages), on Luke (heading only 'of the same'), On the Theophany; Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lecture 4.9 (the name is misprinted in the OCR); 'in the ninth discourse On the Faith', a Greek version of Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity 9.3 (the heading with Hilary's name is lost in the OCR). Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Ps 110:1 (LXX 109:1); Gen 3:19; 1 Pet 1:12; Ps 106:2 (LXX 105:2); Matt 14:19–21; John 11:39–44; Matt 8:24; Matt 14:25; Matt 10:32–33; 1 Cor 2:8; 1 Tim 2:5.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's notes and Latin column read into the text): υ ἢ θη. Καθάπερ χ. τ. λ. Ηϊςο Ιοευ8, οἱ φυς ἀοίμς ἴ. Υ, ᾿. 597. (νὶ ὡς Θεός. Αρυά. Οἤἢγγδοβί. 1. ο. οεῖ ὁ Θεός. μὴν ᾿ Ποίῳ χ. τ. λ. Υἱάα δὰ }ν. 1. δαϊΐ. ϑυ }. 6. Ἐν τοῦ χ, τ. λ. ὕπίσυπη οοι ἢ → ; οδ ος → ; πῷ παίυγα, πΠαί540.6 511 → .
Extrabiblical texts: Cyril of Jerusalem, Cat. 4.9 (Catechetical Lectures; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.41 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-41
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).