Eranistes (The Beggar), or Polymorphus 2.42–3.3
Greek text: PG 83.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 2
2.42PG 83
καὶ Λόγος ἐστίν. ---Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ Ἔχ Παρθένου τοίνυν τεχθεὶς ἄνθρωπος ὁ μονογενὴς Θεὸς, καὶ κατὰ τῆν συμπλήρωσιν τοῦ καιροῦ μέλλων αὐτὸς ἑαυτῷ τὴν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου προκοπὴν εἰς θεὸν ἀπεργάζεσθαι, ταύτην τὴν τάξιν ἐν πᾶσι «οἷς εὐαγγελικοῖς λόγοις ἐφύλαξεν, ἵνα ἑαυτὸν καὶ Υἱὸν εἶναι Θεοῦ διδάξῃ πιστεύεσθαι, καὶ Υἱὸν ἀνθρώπου ὑπομνήσῃ κηρύττεσθαι. Τῷ μὲν ἄνθρωπος εἶναι, λαχῶν ἅπαντα καὶ πράττων ἅπερ ἐστὶν ἀνθρώπου: οὕτω μέντοι, ὥστε ταύτῃ αὐτῇ τῇ καθ᾽ ἕτερον γένος αὐτῶν ὁμιλίᾳ μηδέποτε λαλεῖν, εἰ μὴ μετὰ τοῦ σημαίνειν Θεόν τε καὶ ἄνθρωπον. Ἐντεῦθεν τοιγαροῦν τοῦ δελεάζειν τοὺς ἁπλουστέρους καὶ τοὺς ἀγνοοῦντας, τοῖς αἱρετικοῖς γίνεται πρόφασις, ὥστε τὰ παρ᾽ ἐχείνου κατὰ τὴν ἀνθρωπότητα λαληθέντα ψευδομένους λέγειν ὡς κατ᾽ ἀσθένειαν τῆς θείας εἴρηται φύσεως, καὶ ἐπειδήπερ ὁ εἷς καὶ αὖτός ἔστιν ὁ πάντα λαλῶν ὅσαπερ καὶ ἐλάλει, φιλονεικεῖν αὐτοὺς περὶ ἑαυτοῦ πάντα αὐτὸν εἰρηκέναι. Καὶ οὐδὲ ἡμεῖς ἀρνούμεθα πάντας τοὺς ὄντα: αὐτοῦ λόγους τῆς ἰδίας αὐτοῦ φύσεως εἶναι. ᾿Αλλ᾽ εἴπερ εἷς ὁ Χριστὸς ἄνθρωπος καὶ θεὸς, καὶ οὔτε ὁ ἄνθρωπος τότε πρῶτον Θεὸς, οὔτε μὴν ὅτε ἄνθρωπος τότε οὐκ ἦν καὶ Θεὸς, οὐδὲ μετὰ τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἐν τῷ Κυρἷῳ οὐκὶ ὁ Λόγος ἄνθρωπος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος θεὸς, ἐπάναγκές ἐστιν ἕν καὶ τὸ αὐτὸ εἶναι μυστήριον τῶν αὐτοῦ λόγων, ὃ καὶ τοῦ τόκου καθέστηκε. Καὶ ὅταν ἐν αὐτῷ κατὰ καιρὸν τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἀπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ διαιρεῖς, τότε τά τε τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου διαχώριζε ῥήματα. Καὶ ὁπηνίκα Θεὸν καὶ ἄνθρωπον ὁμολογεῖς, ἐν χαιρῷ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ ἀνθρώπου διάκριναι ῥήματα. Ὅτε ὃὲ ἐκ Θεοῦ καὶ ἀνθρώπου, καὶ πάλιν ἀνθρώπου καθόλου, καὶ καθόλον Θεοῦ τὸν καιρὸν ἐννόει. Εἴ τι τοιοῦτο λελάληται πρὸς τὸ μηνύεσθαι τὸ κατ᾽ ἐκεῖνο καιροῦ, ἐν τῷ χαιρῷ τὰ ς λεχθέντα προσάρμοσον. Καὶ ἐπειδήπερ ἄλλο ἐστὶ πρὸ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου Θεὸς, ἄλλο δὲ καὶ πάλιν ἄνθρωπος καὶ Θεὸς, καὶ ἄλλο μετὰ τὸν ἄνθρωπον καὶ Θεὸν, ὅλος ἄνθρωπος, καὶ ὅλος θεὸς, μὴ συγχέῃς τοῖς λεγομένοις καὶ τοῖς γεγονόσι τὸ τῆς οἰκονομίας μνστήριον. ᾿Ανάγχη γὰρ κατὰ τὴν ποιότητα τῶν γενῶν καὶ τῶν φύσεων, ἄλλην μὲν αὐτῶν γεγενῆσθαι τὴν ὁμιλίαν, μηδέπω κατὰ τὸ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου τεχθέντος μυστήριον, ἄλλην δὲ ἔτι προσελαύνοντος τῷ θανάτῳ, καὶ ἄλλην ἤδη τυγχάνοντος αἰωνίου. Δείξας τοίνυν ἅπαντα, ταῦτῃ μὲν, ὡς Χριστὸς Ἰησοῦς, καὶ τεχθεὶς ἄνθρωπος σώματος ἡμετέρου, κατὰ τὴν συν ἠθειαν τῆς ἡμετέρας ἐλάλησε φύσεως, τῷ εἶναι Θεός. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ ἐν τῷ τόκῳ, καὶ ἐν τῷ πάθει, καὶ τῷ θαγάτῳ, τὰς τῆς ἡμετέρας φύσεως πράξεις διήνυσεν, Ὁ ὅμως ἅπαντα ταῦτα τῇ δυνάμει τῆς ἑαυτοῦ διεπρά-
kai Logos estin. ---Tou autou, en tǭ autǭ Ech Parthenou toinyn techtheis anthrōpos ho monogenēs Theos, kai kata tēn symplērōsin tou kairou mellōn autos heautǭ tēn tou anthrōpou prokopēn eis theon apergazesthai, tautēn tēn taxin en pasi «hois euangelikois logois ephylaxen, hina heauton kai Huion einai Theou didaxę̄ pisteuesthai, kai Huion anthrōpou hypomnēsę̄ kēryttesthai. Tǭ men anthrōpos einai, lachōn hapanta kai prattōn haper estin anthrōpou: houtō mentoi, hōste tautę̄ autę̄ tę̄ kath᾽ heteron genos autōn homilią mēdepote lalein, ei mē meta tou sēmainein Theon te kai anthrōpon. Enteuthen toigaroun tou deleazein tous haplousterous kai tous agnoountas, tois hairetikois ginetai prophasis, hōste ta par᾽ echeinou kata tēn anthrōpotēta lalēthenta pseudomenous legein hōs kat᾽ astheneian tēs theias eirētai physeōs, kai epeidēper ho heis kai autos estin ho panta lalōn hosaper kai elalei, philoneikein autous peri heautou panta auton eirēkenai. Kai oude hēmeis arnoumetha pantas tous onta: autou logous tēs idias autou physeōs einai. ᾿All᾽ eiper heis ho Christos anthrōpos kai theos, kai oute ho anthrōpos tote prōton Theos, oute mēn hote anthrōpos tote ouk ēn kai Theos, oude meta ton anthrōpon en tǭ Kyriǭ ouki ho Logos anthrōpos, kai ho Logos theos, epanankes estin hen kai to auto einai mystērion tōn autou logōn, ho kai tou tokou kathestēke. Kai hotan en autǭ kata kairon ton anthrōpon apo tou Theou diaireis, tote ta te tou Theou kai tou anthrōpou diachōrize rhēmata. Kai hopēnika Theon kai anthrōpon homologeis, en chairǭ ta tou Theou kai anthrōpou diakrinai rhēmata. Hote hoe ek Theou kai anthrōpou, kai palin anthrōpou katholou, kai katholon Theou ton kairon ennoei. Ei ti toiouto lelalētai pros to mēnyesthai to kat᾽ ekeino kairou, en tǭ chairǭ ta s lechthenta prosarmoson. Kai epeidēper allo esti pro tou anthrōpou Theos, allo de kai palin anthrōpos kai Theos, kai allo meta ton anthrōpon kai Theon, holos anthrōpos, kai holos theos, mē syncheę̄s tois legomenois kai tois gegonosi to tēs oikonomias mnstērion. ᾿Ananchē gar kata tēn poiotēta tōn genōn kai tōn physeōn, allēn men autōn gegenēsthai tēn homilian, mēdepō kata to tou anthrōpou techthentos mystērion, allēn de eti proselaunontos tǭ thanatǭ, kai allēn ēdē tynchanontos aiōniou. Deixas toinyn hapanta, tautę̄ men, hōs Christos Iēsous, kai techtheis anthrōpos sōmatos hēmeterou, kata tēn syn ētheian tēs hēmeteras elalēse physeōs, tǭ einai Theos. Ei gar kai en tǭ tokǭ, kai en tǭ pathei, kai tǭ thagatǭ, tas tēs hēmeteras physeōs praxeis diēnysen, Ho homōs hapanta tauta tę̄ dynamei tēs heautou diepra-
and is Word.” Of the same, in the same [book]: “Born, then, of the Virgin as human, the only-begotten God, who at the fulfilment of the time was himself to work in himself the advance of the human being into God, kept this order in all the Gospel sayings: that he might teach that he is to be believed Son of God, and remind us that he is proclaimed Son of Man; as human, obtaining and doing all that belongs to a human being; yet so that in this very manner of speaking, according to the other kind, he never speaks except so as to signify both God and human. From this, then, the heretics get a pretext for ensnaring the simpler and the ignorant: they falsely say that what he spoke according to the humanity was said in weakness of the divine nature, and, since it is one and the same who speaks all that he spoke, they contend that he said everything about himself. Nor do we deny that all his words are of his own nature. But if Christ is one, human and God, and neither was the human then first God, nor, when he was human, was he not then also God, nor after the human [nature], in the Lord, is the Word not human and the Word God, then it is necessary that the mystery of his words be one and the same, just as that of his birth is. And when at a given time you divide the human in him from God, then separate the words of God and of the human. And when you confess God and human, at that time distinguish the words of God and of the human. And when [he is] from God and human, and again wholly human and wholly God, consider the time. If anything of this kind was spoken to indicate what pertains to that time, fit what was said to the time. And since it is one thing [for him to be] God before the human, another again human and God, and another, after the human and God, wholly human and wholly God, do not confuse the mystery of the dispensation by what is said and what has been done. For necessarily, according to the quality of the kinds and of the natures, his manner of speaking was one when not yet [in] the mystery of the human being born, another when he was still approaching death, and another when he was already eternal. Having shown all things, then, in this way, Christ Jesus, born a human being of our body, spoke according to the custom of our nature, while being God. For even if in the birth, and in the passion, and in the death he carried out the actions of our nature, nevertheless he did all these things by the power of his own nature.
Gal 4:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: A Greek version of Hilary of Poitiers (On the Trinity, book 9): the incarnate Son speaks at different times as God, as God and man, and as man, so his sayings must be referred to the right time and nature, though he did everything by the power of his own nature.
- Florilegium. The passage continues the quotation from the 'ninth discourse On the Faith', i.e. Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity 9.5–6, in a Greek version that is compressed and in places obscure; it is translated as closely as the Greek allows, with bracketed words supplied for sense. Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Gal 4:4; Phil 2:6–8 (allusion).
Notes on the original text
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Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.42 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-42). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.43PG 83
ξατο φύσεως. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐν τῷ αὑτῷ 1όγῳ. ὁρᾷς ἄρα οὕτω Θεὸν καὶ ἄνθρωπον ὡμολογῆσθαι, ὥστε τὸν μὲν θάνατον τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ, τῷ δὲ Θεῷ τῆς σαρκὸς λογίζεσθαι τὴν ἀνάστασιν; Τὴν μὲν γὰρ τοῦ Θεοῦ φύσιν, ἐν τῇ δυνάμει τῆς ἀναστάσεως νόει, τὴν δὲ κατὰ ἄνθρωπον οἰκονομίαν ἐν τῷ θανάτῳ ἐπιγνώσῃ. Καὶ ἐπειδήπερ ἑκάτερα ταῖς οἰκείαις γεγένηται φύσεσιν, ἕνα μοι Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐκεῖνον μνημόνενε, τὸν ὄντα ἀμφότερα. Ταῦτα δὲ τούτου χάριν διὰ βραχέων ὑπέδειξα, ἵνα ἑκατέραν φύσιν ἐν τῶ Κυρίῳ ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ νοεῖσθαι μνημονεύωμεν" ὁ γὰρ ὧν ἐν μορφῇ Θεοῦ ἔλαθε δούλου μορφήν. Τοῦ ἁγιωτάτου ἐπισκόπου Αὐγουσείγου, Νῦν δὲ οὗτος μεταξὺ Θεοῦ καὶ ἀνθρώπων ἐφάνη μεσίτης, ὥστε αὐτὸν ἐν τῇ τοῦ προσώπου ἐνότητι συνάπτειν ἑκατέραν τὴν φύσιν, καὶ τὰ ἐν ἔθει αὔξοντα τοῖς ἀήθεσι, καὶ τὰ ἀήθη συγχεράσαντα τοῖς ἐξ ἔθους. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐν τῇ ἐκθέσει τοῦ Εὐαγγελίου τοῦ κατὰ τὸν ᾿Ιωάγνην. Τί τοίνυν, αἱρετιχέ; ἐπειδὴ Χριστός ἔστι καὶ ἄνθρωπος. Λαλεῖ μὲν ὡς ἄνθρωπος, συχοφαντεῖς δὲ Θεόν : Ἐκεῖνος ἐν ἑαυτῷ τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην φύσιν ὑψοῖ, σὺ δὲ ἔχείνου τολμᾷς ἐξευτελίσαι τὴν θείαν.---- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἂν τῷ «ἰόγῳ τῷ περὶ τῆς ἐκθέσεως τῆς σαίστϑως. Καὶ γὰρ ἡμέτερόν ἐστι τὸ πιστεύειν, ἐκείνου δὲ τὸ εἰδέναι, καὶ οὕτως αὐτὸς ὁ Θεὸς Λόγος, τὸ πᾶν ὑποδεξάμενος ὅπερ ἐστὶν ἀνθρώπου, ἄνθρωπος ἔστω, καὶ ὁ προσληφθεὶς ἄνθρωπος, ὑποδεξάμενος ἅπαν ὅπερ ἐστὶ Θεὸς, ἄλλο τι μὴ ἔστω πλὴν ὅπερ Θεός. Οὐκ μεμειῶσθαι τὴν αὐτοῦ οὐσίαν νομιστέον. Οἷδε '“μιγνύναι Θεὸς ἑαυτὸν δέκα τῆς οἰκείας φθορᾶς, καὶ μίγνυται μέν γε κατὰ ἀλήθειαν. Οἶδεν οὕτως ἐν ἑαυτῷ ὑποδέξασθαι, ὥστε μηδὲν αὐτῷ προσθήκης αὐξάνεσθαι καθὼς οἶδεν, ἑαυτὸν ὅλον ἐνέχεεν, ὥστε μηδὲν αὐτῷ συμδῆναι μειώσεως. Μὴ τοίνυν κατὰ τῆς ἡμετέρας ἀσθενείας τὴν ἔννοιαν, καὶ τὰ αἰσθητὰ τῆς πείρας διδάγματα στοχαζόμενοι, ἐκ τῶν ἴσων τῶν μὲν Θεὸν μὲν καὶ ἄνθρωπον, καὶ τῇ τοιαύτῃ συγχύσει τοῦ τε Λόγου καὶ τῆς σαρκὸς ὡσανεί τι σῶμα (᾽ γενόμενον. Οὕτω πιστεύειν μὴ γένοιτο, μήπως τῷ τρόπῳ τῶν συγχυνομένων δύο φύσεις εἰς μίαν ὑπόστασιν ἐνηνέχθαι νομίσωμεν. Ἢ γὰρ τοιαύτη μίξις ἐστὶν ἑκατέρου φθορὰ μέρους, ὁ δὲ Χριστὸς, αὐτὸς χωρῶν, ἀλλὰ οὐ χωρούμενος, ἐρευνῶν, οὐκ ἐρευνώμενος, πληρῶν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐ πληρούμενος, ἀπανταχοῦ ὁμοῦ ὧν. ὅλος, καὶ δι᾽ ὅλου χωρῶν, διὰ τοῦ ἐγχέαι τὴν ἑαυτοῦ δύναμιν, ὡς οἰκτίρμων, ἐμίγη τῇ φύσει τῇ ἀνθρωπείᾳ, οὐ μὴν ἡ ἀνθρώπον φύσις ἐμίγη τῇ θείᾳ. Ὦ μυστηρίου ἀληθῶς οὐρανίου καὶ ἐπιγείου, ὁρωμένου καὶ μὴ φαινομένου! Τοιοῦτος γὰρ ἦν καὶ ὁ γεννηθεὶς Χριστὸς, οὐράνιος καὶ ἐπίγειος, κρατούμενος καὶ μὴ κρατούμενος, ὁρώμενος καὶ ἀόρατος " οὐράνιος κατὰ τὴν τῆς θεότητος φύσιν, ἐπίγειος δὲ κατὰ τὴν τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος φύσιν - ὁρώμενος κατὰ τὴν σάρκα, ἀόρατος κατὰ τὸ πνεῦμα" κρατούμενος κατὰ τὸ σῶμα, ἀχράτητος κατὰ τὸν Λόγον. ἐκ τῆς πρὸς Εὐψύχιον ἐπιστολῆς. Τί τοίνυν ἐχρῆν τὸν πάνσοφον πραγματεύσασθαι; Μεσιτείᾳ τῆς προσληφθείσης σαρκὸς, καὶ ἑνώσει τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγου πρὸς τὸν ἐκ Μαρίας ἄνθρωπον, ἑκάτερα γίνεται, ὥστε τὸν ἐξ ἀμροῖν ἡνωμένον Χριστὸν, θεότητι μὲν διατιθέμενον, ἐπὶ τοῦ οἰκείου μεῖναι τῆς ἀπαθοῦς φύσεως ἀξιώματος, σαρκὶ δὲ θανάτῳ προσομιλήσαντα, ὁμοῦ μὲν ἀποδεῖξαι τῇ ὁμοφύλῳ τῆς σαρκὸς φύσει τὴν κατὰ τοῦ θανάτου διὰ τοῦ θανάταυ ὑπεροψίαν, ὁμοῦ δὲ χρατύνεσθαι τῇ τελευτῇ τῆς καινῆς Διαθήκης τὰ δίκαια. Καὶ ὅτι διάφοροι μὲν αἱ πρὸς ἑνότητα τὴν ἀληθινὴν συνενεχθεῖσαι φύσεις, εἷς δ' ἐξ ἀμφοῖν Θεὸς καὶ Υἱὸς, οὐκ ὡς τῆς τῶν φύσεων διαφο-
xato physeōs. --- Tou hautou, en tǭ hautǭ 1ogǭ. horąs ara houtō Theon kai anthrōpon hōmologēsthai, hōste ton men thanaton tǭ anthrōpǭ, tǭ de Theǭ tēs sarkos logizesthai tēn anastasin? Tēn men gar tou Theou physin, en tę̄ dynamei tēs anastaseōs noei, tēn de kata anthrōpon oikonomian en tǭ thanatǭ epignōsę̄. Kai epeidēper hekatera tais oikeiais gegenētai physesin, hena moi Christon Iēsoun ekeinon mnēmonene, ton onta amphotera. Tauta de toutou charin dia bracheōn hypedeixa, hina hekateran physin en tō Kyriǭ hēmōn Iēsou Christǭ noeisthai mnēmoneuōmen" ho gar hōn en morphę̄ Theou elathe doulou morphēn. Tou hagiōtatou episkopou Augouseigou, Nyn de houtos metaxy Theou kai anthrōpōn ephanē mesitēs, hōste auton en tę̄ tou prosōpou enotēti synaptein hekateran tēn physin, kai ta en ethei auxonta tois aēthesi, kai ta aēthē syncherasanta tois ex ethous. --- Tou autou, en tę̄ ekthesei tou Euangeliou tou kata ton ᾿Iōagnēn. Ti toinyn, hairetiche? epeidē Christos esti kai anthrōpos. Lalei men hōs anthrōpos, sychophanteis de Theon : Ekeinos en heautǭ tēn anthrōpinēn physin hypsoi, sy de echeinou tolmąs exeutelisai tēn theian.---- Tou hautou, an tǭ «iogǭ tǭ peri tēs ektheseōs tēs saistϑōs. Kai gar hēmeteron esti to pisteuein, ekeinou de to eidenai, kai houtōs autos ho Theos Logos, to pan hypodexamenos hoper estin anthrōpou, anthrōpos estō, kai ho proslēphtheis anthrōpos, hypodexamenos hapan hoper esti Theos, allo ti mē estō plēn hoper Theos. Ouk memeiōsthai tēn autou ousian nomisteon. Hoide '“mignynai Theos heauton deka tēs oikeias phthoras, kai mignytai men ge kata alētheian. Oiden houtōs en heautǭ hypodexasthai, hōste mēden autǭ prosthēkēs auxanesthai kathōs oiden, heauton holon enecheen, hōste mēden autǭ symdēnai meiōseōs. Mē toinyn kata tēs hēmeteras astheneias tēn ennoian, kai ta aisthēta tēs peiras didagmata stochazomenoi, ek tōn isōn tōn men Theon men kai anthrōpon, kai tę̄ toiautę̄ synchysei tou te Logou kai tēs sarkos hōsanei ti sōma (᾽ genomenon. Houtō pisteuein mē genoito, mēpōs tǭ tropǭ tōn synchynomenōn dyo physeis eis mian hypostasin enēnechthai nomisōmen. Ē gar toiautē mixis estin hekaterou phthora merous, ho de Christos, autos chōrōn, alla ou chōroumenos, ereunōn, ouk ereunōmenos, plērōn, all᾽ ou plēroumenos, apantachou homou hōn. holos, kai di᾽ holou chōrōn, dia tou encheai tēn heautou dynamin, hōs oiktirmōn, emigē tę̄ physei tę̄ anthrōpeią, ou mēn hē anthrōpon physis emigē tę̄ theią. Ō mystēriou alēthōs ouraniou kai epigeiou, horōmenou kai mē phainomenou! Toioutos gar ēn kai ho gennētheis Christos, ouranios kai epigeios, kratoumenos kai mē kratoumenos, horōmenos kai aoratos " ouranios kata tēn tēs theotētos physin, epigeios de kata tēn tēs anthrōpotētos physin - horōmenos kata tēn sarka, aoratos kata to pneuma" kratoumenos kata to sōma, achratētos kata ton Logon. ek tēs pros Eupsychion epistolēs. Ti toinyn echrēn ton pansophon pragmateusasthai? Mesiteią tēs proslēphtheisēs sarkos, kai henōsei tou Theou Logou pros ton ek Marias anthrōpon, hekatera ginetai, hōste ton ex amroin hēnōmenon Christon, theotēti men diatithemenon, epi tou oikeiou meinai tēs apathous physeōs axiōmatos, sarki de thanatǭ prosomilēsanta, homou men apodeixai tę̄ homophylǭ tēs sarkos physei tēn kata tou thanatou dia tou thanatau hyperopsian, homou de chratynesthai tę̄ teleutę̄ tēs kainēs Diathēkēs ta dikaia. Kai hoti diaphoroi men hai pros henotēta tēn alēthinēn synenechtheisai physeis, heis d' ex amphoin Theos kai Huios, ouk hōs tēs tōn physeōn diapho-
Of the same, in the same book: “Do you see, then, that God and human are so confessed that death is reckoned to the human, and the resurrection of the flesh to God? Understand the nature of God in the power of the resurrection, and recognize the human dispensation in the death. And since each came about by its own nature, remember for me that one Christ Jesus, who is both. These things I have shown briefly for this reason: that we may remember to understand each nature in our Lord Jesus Christ; for he who was in the form of God took the form of a servant.” Of the most holy bishop Augustine: “But now he appeared as mediator between God and human beings, so as to join each nature in the unity of the person, and to raise the customary by the unaccustomed, and to blend the unaccustomed with the customary.” Of the same, in the exposition of the Gospel according to John: “What, then, heretic? Since Christ is also human, he speaks as human, and do you slander God? He exalts the human nature in himself, and you dare to debase his divine [nature].” Of the same, in the discourse on the exposition of the faith: “For it is ours to believe, his to know; and so God the Word himself, receiving everything that belongs to a human being, is human, and the human being who was assumed, receiving all that is God, is nothing other than God. His substance must not be thought diminished. God knows how to mingle himself without corruption of his own, and he mingles in truth. He knows how to receive into himself so that nothing is added to him by increase; as he knows how, he poured himself out wholly, so that no diminution befell him. Let us not, then, conjecturing by the measure of our weakness and the lessons of sense experience, [suppose] God and human [to be like things mixed in] equal proportions, as though by such a confusion of Word and flesh some one body had come to be. Far be it from us to believe so, lest we think that, in the manner of things that are confused, two natures were brought into one hypostasis. For such a mixture is the destruction of each part. But Christ, containing but not contained, searching but not searched, filling but not filled, being everywhere at once whole and passing through all, by pouring forth his own power, as merciful, was mingled with the human nature; but the human nature was not mingled with the divine. O mystery truly heavenly and earthly, seen and not appearing! Such, too, was Christ who was born: heavenly and earthly, held and not held, seen and invisible; heavenly according to the nature of the Godhead, earthly according to the nature of the humanity; seen according to the flesh, invisible according to the spirit; held according to the body, not to be held according to the Word.” [Of …], from the letter to Eupsychius: “What, then, did the all-wise have to accomplish? By the mediation of the flesh that was assumed, and the union of God the Word with the human being from Mary, both things come about: that Christ, united from both, being disposed by the Godhead, remained in the dignity of his impassible nature, and, meeting with death in the flesh, at once showed, by the nature of the flesh akin to ours, contempt of death through death, and at once the rights of the new covenant were confirmed by his death. And that the natures brought together into true unity are different, but one God and Son from both, not as though the difference of the natures had been
Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 2:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 9:15 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The end of the passage from Hilary; then passages ascribed to Augustine on Christ the mediator joining both natures in one person, God mingled with human nature without confusion; and a letter to Eupsychius on the impassible Godhead and the death in the flesh.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Hilary, On the Trinity 9 (end of the passage); passages ascribed to Augustine (the first corresponds to his Letter 137 to Volusian; Migne's note, removed from the text, refers a passage to the letter to Volusian; the others are given as from his exposition of John and a discourse on the faith, not identified further here); a letter to Eupsychius whose author's name is lost in the OCR. 'Hypostasis' renders ὑπόστασις. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Phil 2:6–7; 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 2:14; Heb 9:15–17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word; Migne's note (source of the quotation) and variants read into the text; stray letters): Αὐγουσείγου, χὰ Νῦν → Αὐγουσείγου, Νῦν; συγἃρτς, χύσει → συγχύσει; ἰτηπο 1667 ὁοοπεϊποθαίυν, αυΐ οΘαγμοδίυν οἱ χαΐ 50} → ; ὃ ἐκ τῆς ἐπιστολῆς τῆς πρὸς Βλουσίαν ἴω) τοῦ ἁγιωἑΐα. τὰ ἀληθῆ. ἀλλ᾽ εἰ. → ; θα Σ δία, γὰ Ποτί συθ ἰη αὐἐδ : ἀπο 8 τό 6886 → .
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.43 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-43). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.44PG 83
ρᾶς ἀνηρημένης διὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς πρὸς τοὺς ἀνατολικοὺς ἐπιστολῆς. Δύο γὰρ φύσεων ἕνωσις γέγονε" διὸ ἕνα Χριστὸν, ἕνα Υἱὸν, ἕνα Κύριον ὁμολογοῦμεν. Κατὰ ταύτην τὴν τῆς ἀσυγχύτου ἑνώσεως ἔννοιαν, ὁμολογοῦμεν τὴν ἁγίαν Παρθένον Θεοτόκον, διὰ τὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγον σαρχωθῇναι καὶ ἐνανθρωπῆσαι, καὶ ἐξ αὐτῆς τῆς συλλήψεὼς ἐνῶσαι ἑαυτῷ τὸν ἐξ αὐτῆς ληφθέντα ναόν. -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Ἐΐς γὰρ Κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς, χἂᾶν ἡ τῶν φύσεων μὴ ἀγνοῆται διαφορὰ, ἐξ ὧν τὴν ἀπόῤῥητον ἕνωσιν πεπράχθαι φαμέν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Αἰνοῦντες τοίνυν, ὡς ἔφην, τῆς ἐνανθρωπήσεως τὸν τρόπον, δρῶμεν ὅτι δύο φύσεις συνῆλθον ἀλλήλαις καθ᾽ ἕνωσιν ἀδιάσπαστον ἀσνγχύτως καὶ ἀδιαιρέτως. Ἢ γὰρ σὰρξ σάρξ ἐστὶ, καὶ οὐ θεότης τις, εἰ καὶ γέγονε Θεοῦ σάρξ. Ὁμοίως δὲ καὶ ὁ Λόγος Θεός ἔστι, καὶ οὐ σὰρξ, εἰ καὶ ἰδίαν ἐποιήσατο τὴν σάρκα οἰκονομικῶς. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ εἰς ἑρμηνείαν τῆς πρὸς Ἑδραίους ἐπιστολῆς. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ νοοῖντο διάφοροι, καὶ ἀλλήλαις ἄνισοι, τῶν εἰς ἑνότητα συνδεδραμηχότων αἱ φύσεις, σαρχὸφ δὲ λέγω καὶ Θεοῦ, ἀλλ᾽ οὖν εἷς γενόμενος ὁ ἐξ ἀμφοῖν Υἱός. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, εὶς τὴν ἑρμηνείαν τῆς αὑτῆς ἐπιστολῆς. Κἂν εἰ Ὁ λέγοιτο τυχὸν ἠἡνῶσθαι σαρκὶ καθ᾽ ὑπόστασιν ὁ μονογενὴς τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγος, οὐκ ἀνάχυσίν τινα τὴν εἰς ἀλλήλας τῶν φύσεων πεπράχθαι φαμὲν, οὔσης δὲ μᾶλλον ἑκατέρας τοῦθ᾽ ὅπερ ἐστίν.--- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ ἀπὸ τῶν Σκο.λίων. "Ανθρωπος ὠνόμασται, καίτοι κατὰ φύσιν ὑπάρχων θεὸς, ὁ ἐκ Παρθένου Πατρὸς Λόγος, ὡς μετεσχηκὼς αἵματο; καὶ σαρκὸς παραπλησίως ἡμῖν. "Ὥφθη γὰρ οὕτω τοῖς ἐπὶ γῆς, καὶ οὗ μεθεὶς ὅπερ ἢν, ἀλλ' ἐν προσλήψει γεγονὼς τῆς καθ᾽ ἡμᾶς ἀνθρωπότητος, τελείως ἐχούσης κατὰ τὸν ἴδιον λόγον. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, περὶ τῆς ἐναγθρωπήσεως. Εἴς οὖν ἄρα ἐστὶ καὶ πρὸ τῆς ἐνανθρωπήσεως Θεὸς ἀληθινὸς, καὶ ἐν ἀνθρωπότητι μεμενηχὼς ὅπερ ἦν, καὶ ἔστι, καὶ ἔσται. Οὐ διαιρετέον οὖν ἄρα τὸν ἕνα Κύριον Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν, εἰς ἄνθρωπον ἰδικῶς, καὶ εἰς Θεὸν ἰδικῶς" ἀλλ᾽ ἕνα καὶ τὸν αὐτὸν Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν εἶναί φαμεν, τὴν τῶν φύσεων εἰδότες διαφορὰν, καὶ αὐτάς. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, μετὰ τὰ ἃ.1.:ια. Νοεῖται γὰρ πάντως ὡς ἕτερον ἐν ἑτέρῳ τὸ κατοικοῦν, τουτέστιν, ἡ θεία φύσις ἐν ἀνθρωπότητι, καὶ οὐ παθοῦσα φυρμὼν, ἣ ᾿ἀνάχυσίν τινα, καὶ μετάστασιν, τὴν εἰς ὅπερ οὐκ ἦν. Τὸ γὰρ ἐνοικεῖν ἑτέρῳ λεγόμενον, οὐκ αὐτὸ γέγονεν ὅπερ ἐστὶ τοῦτο ἐν ᾧ κατοικεῖ, νοεῖται δὲ μᾶλλον ἕτερον ἐν ἑτέρῳ. Ἐν δέ γε τῇ φύσει τοῦ Λόγου, καὶ τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος, μόνην ἡμῖν σημαίνει διαφορὰν τῶν φύσεων τὸ διάφορον. Εἷς γὰρ ἐξ ἀμφοῖν νοεῖται Χριστός. Οὐκοῦν τὸ ἀσύγχυτον εὖ μάλα τετηρηχὼς, φησὶν ἐν ἡμῖν ἐσχηνωχέναι τὸν νόμενον καὶ ἐνανθρωπήσαντα
ras anērēmenēs dia tēn henōsin. --- Tou autou, ek tēs pros tous anatolikous epistolēs. Dyo gar physeōn henōsis gegone" dio hena Christon, hena Huion, hena Kyrion homologoumen. Kata tautēn tēn tēs asynchytou henōseōs ennoian, homologoumen tēn hagian Parthenon Theotokon, dia ton tou Theou Logon sarchōthę̄nai kai enanthrōpēsai, kai ex autēs tēs syllēpseōs enōsai heautǭ ton ex autēs lēphthenta naon. -- Tou autou. Eïs gar Kyrios Iēsous Christos, chaan hē tōn physeōn mē agnoētai diaphora, ex hōn tēn aporrhēton henōsin peprachthai phamen. --- Tou autou. Ainountes toinyn, hōs ephēn, tēs enanthrōpēseōs ton tropon, drōmen hoti dyo physeis synēlthon allēlais kath᾽ henōsin adiaspaston asnnchytōs kai adiairetōs. Ē gar sarx sarx esti, kai ou theotēs tis, ei kai gegone Theou sarx. Homoiōs de kai ho Logos Theos esti, kai ou sarx, ei kai idian epoiēsato tēn sarka oikonomikōs. --- Tou autou eis hermēneian tēs pros Hedraious epistolēs. Ei gar kai noointo diaphoroi, kai allēlais anisoi, tōn eis henotēta syndedramēchotōn hai physeis, sarchoph de legō kai Theou, all᾽ oun heis genomenos ho ex amphoin Huios. --- Tou hautou, eis tēn hermēneian tēs hautēs epistolēs. Kan ei Ho legoito tychon hēēnōsthai sarki kath᾽ hypostasin ho monogenēs tou Theou Logos, ouk anachysin tina tēn eis allēlas tōn physeōn peprachthai phamen, ousēs de mallon hekateras touth᾽ hoper estin.--- Tou autou, ek tou apo tōn Sko.liōn. "Anthrōpos ōnomastai, kaitoi kata physin hyparchōn theos, ho ek Parthenou Patros Logos, hōs meteschēkōs haimato? kai sarkos paraplēsiōs hēmin. "Hōphthē gar houtō tois epi gēs, kai hou metheis hoper ēn, all' en proslēpsei gegonōs tēs kath᾽ hēmas anthrōpotētos, teleiōs echousēs kata ton idion logon. --- Tou autou, peri tēs enagthrōpēseōs. Eis oun ara esti kai pro tēs enanthrōpēseōs Theos alēthinos, kai en anthrōpotēti memenēchōs hoper ēn, kai esti, kai estai. Ou diaireteon oun ara ton hena Kyrion Iēsoun Christon, eis anthrōpon idikōs, kai eis Theon idikōs" all᾽ hena kai ton auton Christon Iēsoun einai phamen, tēn tōn physeōn eidotes diaphoran, kai autas. --- Tou autou, meta ta ha.1.:ia. Noeitai gar pantōs hōs heteron en heterǭ to katoikoun, toutestin, hē theia physis en anthrōpotēti, kai ou pathousa phyrmōn, hē ᾿anachysin tina, kai metastasin, tēn eis hoper ouk ēn. To gar enoikein heterǭ legomenon, ouk auto gegonen hoper esti touto en hǭ katoikei, noeitai de mallon heteron en heterǭ. En de ge tę̄ physei tou Logou, kai tēs anthrōpotētos, monēn hēmin sēmainei diaphoran tōn physeōn to diaphoron. Heis gar ex amphoin noeitai Christos. Oukoun to asynchyton eu mala tetērēchōs, phēsin en hēmin eschēnōchenai ton nomenon kai enanthrōpēsanta
abolished by the union.” Of the same, from the letter to the Easterners: “For a union of two natures has taken place; therefore we confess one Christ, one Son, one Lord. According to this sense of the unconfused union, we confess the holy Virgin to be Theotokos, because God the Word was made flesh and became human, and from the very conception united to himself the temple taken from her.” Of the same: “For the Lord Jesus Christ is one, even if the difference of the natures, from which we say the ineffable union was effected, is not ignored.” Of the same: “Praising, then, as I said, the manner of the incarnation, we see that two natures came together with one another in an indissoluble union, without confusion and without division. For the flesh is flesh, and not Godhead, even if it has become God's flesh. Likewise the Word too is God, and not flesh, even if he made the flesh his own by the dispensation.” Of the same, in the interpretation of the letter to the Hebrews: “For even if the natures of the things that ran together into unity, I mean of flesh and of God, are understood as different and unequal to each other, yet the Son from both is one.” Of the same, in the interpretation of the same letter: “Even if perhaps the only-begotten Word of God should be said to have been united to flesh according to hypostasis, we do not say that a commingling of the natures with each other was effected, but rather that each remains what it is.” Of the same, from the Scholia: “The Word of the Father, though being God by nature, is named human, [born] of the Virgin, as having shared in blood and flesh as we do. For so he was seen by those on earth; not having let go what he was, but having come to be in the assumption of our humanity, which is complete according to its own principle.” Of the same, on the incarnation: “He is one, then, both before the incarnation true God, and in the humanity having remained what he was, and is, and will be. The one Lord Jesus Christ, then, must not be divided into a human being separately and God separately; but we say that Christ Jesus is one and the same, knowing the difference of the natures and [keeping] them [unconfused].” Of the same, after other things: “For what dwells is certainly understood as one thing in another, that is, the divine nature in humanity, without having undergone mixture or commingling or change into what it was not. For what is said to dwell in another has not itself become that in which it dwells, but rather is understood as one thing in another. But in the nature of the Word and of the humanity, the difference signifies to us only the difference of the natures; for one Christ is understood from both. Keeping, then, the unconfusedness very well, he says that the [Only-begotten], having become flesh and human, dwelt among us
John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 2:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:31 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Passages of Cyril of Alexandria: the union of two natures without confusion, for which Mary is called Theotokos (the letter to the Easterners); one Christ from both natures, each remaining what it is, the Word dwelling in the humanity as one thing in another.
- Florilegium. Quotations, all 'of the same': Cyril of Alexandria, Letter to the Easterners (Letter 39, to John of Antioch, containing the Formula of Reunion of 433); passages from Cyril's interpretation of Hebrews, the Scholia on the Incarnation, and a work on the incarnation (not identified further here). Since these are headed 'of the same', the lost author's name before the letter to Eupsychius in the preceding section may also be Cyril's; this is uncertain. 'Theotokos' (God-bearer) is kept in Greek. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: John 1:14; Heb 2:14; Luke 1:31, 35.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's notes read into a word): δοιπλίηυβ 76518 ΟἸγίϑιυ 5, οἰἰδπ δὶ πο ἱφπογοίαι ἀϊ- ο → ; δἰ Ὁἱ φάγοι οἱ οὶ, → ; μονοἰῃ 808 οὐϊ;. 70. Αὐδονιὶ, τ. Υ, ἡ. πὶ ῥ. 25. γενὴς → μονογενὴς; ταϊΐοῃα ρατίεοίδηι. --πῆς → τῆς.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyril of Alexandria, Ep. 39 (Letters (first part: Migne letters 1-55); quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.44 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-44). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.45PG 83
᾿Ακήκοας, ὦ ἀγαθὲ, τῶν μεγάλων τῆς οἰκουμένης φωστήρων, καὶ τὰς τῆς διδασκαλίας ἀκτῖνας ἑώρακας" καὶ μεμάθηκας ἀχριδῶς, ὡς οὐ μόνον μετὰ τὸν τόκον, ἀλλὰ καὶ μετὰ τὸ σωτήριον πάθος, καὶ τὴν ἀνάστασιν, καὶ τὴν ἀνάληψιν, τὴν ἕνωσιν τῆς θεότητος καὶ τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος ἀσύγχυτον ἔδειξαν. ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐκ ᾧμην αὐτοὺς διαιρεῖν τὰς φύσεις μετὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν, πολλὴν δὲ εὗρον διαιοέσεως ἀμε- ΟΡΘ. Μανικόν ἐστι καὶ θρασὺ κατὰ τῶν γενναίων ἐχείνων καὶ τῆς πίστεως ἀριστέων τὴν γλῶτταν κινεῖν. “ἵνα δὲ γνῷς ὡς καὶ ᾿Απολινάριος ἀσύγχυτον λέγει γεγενῆσθαι τὴν ἕνωσιν, προσοίσω σοι καὶ τὰς τούτου φωνάς. ἔλχουσον τοίνυν αὐτοῦ λέγόντος. ᾿Απολιγαρίου, ἐκ τοῦ κατὰ κεφάλαιον βιδλίου: Ἑνοῦται ἄρα τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ τοῦ σώματος, δημιουργὸς προσκυνητὸς, σοφία καὶ δύναμις ὑπάρχων αἰώνιος" ἀπὸ θεότητος ταῦτα’ υἱὸς Μαρίας ἐπ’ ἐσχάτου χρόνου τεχθεὶς, προυχυνῶν Θεὸν, σοφίᾳ προκόπτων, δυνάμει κραταιούμενος" ταῦτα ἀπὸ σώματος. Τὸ μὲν ὑπὲρ ἁμαρτίας πάθος, καὶ ἢ κατάρα προῆλθεν, οὐδὲ παρελεύσεται, οὐδὲ εἰς ἀσώματον μεταδληθήτοῖς ἀλόγοις ζώοις ὁμοούσιοι κατὰ τὸ σῶμα τὸ ἄλογόν, ἑτεροούσιοι δὲ καθὸ λογικοί. Οὕὔτω καὶδ θεὸς ἀνθρώποις ὁμοούσιος ὧν κατὰ τὴν σάρκα. ἑτεροούσιός Λόγον. Ἕνα γὰρ Υἱὸν οἷδε μονογενῆ, τὸν σάρκα γεγ ἐστι καθὸ Λόγος “καὶ ἄνθρωπος. --- Καὶ ἑτέρωθι δὲ οὕτω φησί. Ἰῶν συγχιρναμένων αἱ ποιότητες χεράννυνται, οὐκ ἀπόλλυνται. "Ὥστε τινὰ καὶ διίστανται ἀπὸ τῶν συγχερασθέντων, καθάπερ οἶνος ἀπὸ ὕδατος. Οὐδὲ πρὸς σῶμα σύγκρασις, οὐδὲ οἵα σωμάτων πρὸς σώματα" ἀλλ᾽ ἔχουσα καὶ τὸ ἀμιγὲς, ὥστε καὶ πρὸς τὸ δέον ἑκάστοτε τὴν τῆς θεότητος ἐνέργειαν, ἢ ἰδιάζειν, ἣ ἐπιμίγνυσθαι, καθὰ γέγονεν ἐπὶ τῆς νηστείας τοῦ Κυρίου. Ἐπιμιγνυμένης μὲν τῆς θεότητος κατὰ τὸ ἀπροσδεὲς, ἡ πεῖνα ἐκωλύετο" Οὐκ ἀντιθείσης δὲ τῇ ἐνδείᾳ τὸ ἀπροσδεὲς, ἡ πεῖνα ἐγένετο, πρὸς τὴν τοῦ διαδόλου κατάλυσιν. Εἰ δὲ τῶν σωμάτων ἡ μίξις οὐκ ἠλλάγη, πόσῳ μᾶλλον ἣ τῆς θεότητος; -- Καὶ ἐν ἑτέρῳ δὲ χωρίῳ ταῦτά φησιν. Εἰ ἡ πρὸς σίδηρον ἀνάχρασις, πῦρ ἀποδειχνῦσα αὖτὸν σίδηρον, ὡς καὶ τὰ πυρὸς ἐργάζεσθαι, οὐ μετέδαλε τὴν φύσιν αὐτοῦ, οὐδὲ ἡ τοῦ Θεοῦ πρὸς τὸ σῶμα ἕνωσις μεταδολὴ σώματός ἐστιν, καΐτοι τοῦ σώματος τὰς θείας ἐνεργείας παρθχομένου τοῖς ἐφάψασθαι δυναμένοις. --- Τούτοις εὐθὺς συνδπισυνάπτει. Ἐὶ ἄνθρωπος καὶ ψυχὴν ἔχει καὶ σῶμα, καὶ μένει ταῦτα ἐν ἑνότητι ὄντα’ πολλῷ μᾶλλον ὁ Χριστὸς θεότητα ἔχων μετὰ σώματος, ἔχει ἑκάτερα διαμένοντα καὶ μὴ σνγχεόμενα. --- Καὶ μετ᾽ σάλλιν. Μετέχει μὲν γὰρ ἣ ἀνθρωπίνη τῆς θείας ἔνεργείας, καθόσον ἐφικνεῖται" ἑτέρα δέ ἐστιν ὡς ἐλαχίστη μεγίστης. Καὶ δοῦλος μὲν ἄνθρωπος τοῦ Θεοῦ, ὁ δὲ Θεὸς οὗ δοῦλος τοῦ ἀνθρώπον, οὐδὲ ἑαυτοῦ. Καὶ ὁ μὲν ποίημα τοῦ Θεοῦ, ὁ δὲ οὔτε ἀνθρώπου ποίημα, οὐδὲ ἑαυτοῦ. --- Καὶ μετ᾽ ὀλίγα. Ἐϊ κατὰ θεότητα ἐπὶ Χριστοῦ λαμδάνει τις τὸ, ε«“Ἃ βλέπει τὸν Πατέρα καὶ αὐτὸς ποιεῖ,» καὶ μὴ κατὰ σάρκα καθ᾽ ἣν ἰδιάξζει ὁ σαρκωθεὶς παρὰ τὸν μὴ σαρκωθέντα Πατέρα, διαιρεῖ δύο θείας ἐνεργείας" οὐ διαιρεῖται δέ" οὐκ ἄρα θεότητα λέγει. --- ΕἾτ᾽ αὖθις καὶ ταῦτα τέθεικεν. “Ὥσπερ ὁ ἄνθρωπος οὐκ ἄλογος προσκειμένου τοῦ λογικοῦ τῷ ἀλόγῳ, οὕτως οὐδὲ ὃ Σωτὴρ κτίσμα προσκειμένου τῷ ἀχτίστῳ Θεῷ τοῦ κτίσματος. -- Τούτοις καὶ ταῦτω ἐπισυνάπτει. Τὸ ἀόρατον καὶ συντεθὲν πρὸς σῶμα ὁρατὸν, καὶ διὰ τούτου θεωρηθὲν, μένει καὶ ἀόρατον" μένει δὲ καὶ ἀσύνθετον, καθὸ οὐ συμπεριορίζεται τῷ σώματι. Καὶ «ἢ σῶμα, μένον ἐπὶ τοῦ ἰδίου μέτρου, προσλαμθάνει τὴν πρὸς Θεὸν ἕνωσιν κατὰ τὸ ζωοποιεῖσθαι, οὔτε τὸ ζωοποιούμενον ζωοποιεῖ. --- Καὶ μετ᾽ ὀλίγα πάν οὕτως εἴρηκεν. Ἐῤ μηδὲ ἡ ψυχῆς πρὸς σῶμα κρᾶσις, καίτοι ἐξ ἀρχῆς κατὰ συμφυῖΐαν οὖσα, ὁρατὴν αὑτὴν διὰ τὸ σῶμα ποιεῖ, μηδὲ εἰς τὰ ἄλλα τοῦ σώματος ἰδιώματα μεΐαθάλλει, ὥστε καὶ τέμνεσθαι, καὶ ἐλαττοῦσθαι" πόσῳ μᾶλλον ὁ μὴ σώματι συμφνὴς ὁ Θεὸς ἀμελετήτως ἑνοῦται πρὸς σῶμα; Καὶ εἰ τὸ σῶμα τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐπὶ τῆς ἰδίας φύσεως μένει, καὶ τοῦτό γε ἐψυχωμένον, οὐδὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ Χριστοῦ τὸ σῶμα ἡ σύγκρασις μήτε μετέδαλεν ὡς μὴ εἶναι σῶμα. ---Καὶ μετὰ πλεῖστα πάλιν ταῦτα τέθεικδν. Ὁ ψυχὴν καὶ σῶμα ὁμολογῶν ὡς ἕν ὑπὸ τῆς Γραφῆς παρίστασθαι, ἑαυτῷ μάχεται, τὴν τοιαύτην ἕνωσιν τοῦ Λόγου πρὸς σῶμα μεταδολὴν εἶναι φάσκων, ταύτὴν οὐδὲ ἐπὶ ψυχῆς θεωρουμένην. ---“Ακουσον αὑτοῦ σάλι» διαῤῥήδην βοῶγτος. Εἰ οἱ μὴ λέγοντες παραμένειν τὴν σάρκα τοῦ Κυρίου δυσσεθοῦσι, πολλῷ μᾶλλον οἱ μηδὲ τὴν ἀρχὴν σεσαρχῶσθαι ὁμολογοῦντες. --- Καὶ ἐν τῷ περὶ σαρκώσεως «ογιδίῳ πάδιγ ταῦτα γέγραφε. Τὸ μὲν οὖν, « Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν βου, » ὡς πρὸς ἄνθρωπον λέγει" οὐ γὰρ τῷ ἀεὶ καθἡμένῳ ἐπὶ θρόνου δόξης, καθὸ Θεὸς Δόγος, εἴρηται μετὰ τὴν ἄνοδον τὴν ἐκ γῆς" ἀλλὰ τῷ νῦν εἰς τὴν ἐπουράνιον ὑψωθέντι δόξαν καθὸ ἄνθρωπος, ὡς οἱ ἀπόστολοι λέγουσιν" ε Οὐ γὰρ Δαδὶδ ἀνέθη εἰς τοὺς οὐρανούς" λέγει δὲ αὐτὸς, Εἶπεν ὁ Κύριος τῷ Κυρίῳ μου, Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου.» ᾿Ανθρώπινον μὲν τὸ πρόσταγμα, ἀρχὴν τῇ καθέδρᾳ διδοῦν" θεῖον δὲ τὸ ἀξίωμα τὸ συγκαθῆσθαι Θεῷ, ᾧ λειτουργοῦσιν αἱ χίλιαι χιλιάδες, καὶ παραστήχονσιν αἱ μύριαι μυριάδες. --- Καὶ μετ᾽ ὀλίγα. Οὐ γὰρ ὡς θεῷ ὑποτάσσει τοὺς ἐχθροὺς, ἀλλ᾽ ὡς ἀνθρώπῳ ὥστε τὸν αὐτὸν εἶναι καὶ Θεὸν ὁρώμενον, καὶ ἄνθρωπον. Ὅτι δὲ ὡς ἀνθρώπῳ λέγεται τὸ, « Ἕως θῶ τοὺς ἐχθρούς σου ὑποπόδιον τῶν ποδῶν σου, ν» διδάσκει Παῦλος, ἴδιον αὐτοῦ τὸ κατόρθωμα λέγων, κατὰ τὸ θεϊκὸν δηλαδή" « Κατὰ τὴν ἐνεργείας φύσιν, κατὰ τὸ δύνασθαι αὐτὸν καὶ ὑποτάξαι ἑαυτῷ πάντα. » Ὅρα ἀχωρίστοςς ἐν τῷ ἑνὶ προσώπῳ θεότητα καὶ ἀνθρωπότητα. --- Καὶ μετὰ βραχέα. « Δόξατόν με σὺ, παρὰ σεαυτῷ τῇ δόξῃ ἧ εἶχον πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι παρὰ σοί.» Τὸ μὲν γὰρ δόξασον, ὡς ἄνθρωπος λέγει" τὸ δὲ ἔχειν πρὸ αἰῶνος τὴν δόξαν ὡς Θεὸς ἀποκαλύπτει.
᾿Akēkoas, ō agathe, tōn megalōn tēs oikoumenēs phōstērōn, kai tas tēs didaskalias aktinas heōrakas" kai memathēkas achridōs, hōs ou monon meta ton tokon, alla kai meta to sōtērion pathos, kai tēn anastasin, kai tēn analēpsin, tēn henōsin tēs theotētos kai tēs anthrōpotētos asynchyton edeixan. ERAN. Ouk hǭmēn autous diairein tas physeis meta tēn henōsin, pollēn de heuron diaioeseōs ame- ORTh. Manikon esti kai thrasy kata tōn gennaiōn echeinōn kai tēs pisteōs aristeōn tēn glōttan kinein. “hina de gnǭs hōs kai ᾿Apolinarios asynchyton legei gegenēsthai tēn henōsin, prosoisō soi kai tas toutou phōnas. elchouson toinyn autou legontos. ᾿Apoligariou, ek tou kata kephalaion bidliou: Henoutai ara ta tou Theou kai tou sōmatos, dēmiourgos proskynētos, sophia kai dynamis hyparchōn aiōnios" apo theotētos tauta’ huios Marias ep’ eschatou chronou techtheis, prouchynōn Theon, sophią prokoptōn, dynamei krataioumenos" tauta apo sōmatos. To men hyper hamartias pathos, kai ē katara proēlthen, oude pareleusetai, oude eis asōmaton metadlēthētois alogois zōois homoousioi kata to sōma to alogon, heteroousioi de katho logikoi. Houytō kaid theos anthrōpois homoousios hōn kata tēn sarka. heteroousios Logon. Hena gar Huion hoide monogenē, ton sarka geg esti katho Logos “kai anthrōpos. --- Kai heterōthi de houtō phēsi. Iōn synchirnamenōn hai poiotētes cherannyntai, ouk apollyntai. "Hōste tina kai diistantai apo tōn syncherasthentōn, kathaper oinos apo hydatos. Oude pros sōma synkrasis, oude hoia sōmatōn pros sōmata" all᾽ echousa kai to amiges, hōste kai pros to deon hekastote tēn tēs theotētos energeian, ē idiazein, hē epimignysthai, katha gegonen epi tēs nēsteias tou Kyriou. Epimignymenēs men tēs theotētos kata to aprosdees, hē peina ekōlyeto" Ouk antitheisēs de tę̄ endeią to aprosdees, hē peina egeneto, pros tēn tou diadolou katalysin. Ei de tōn sōmatōn hē mixis ouk ēllagē, posǭ mallon hē tēs theotētos? -- Kai en heterǭ de chōriǭ tauta phēsin. Ei hē pros sidēron anachrasis, pyr apodeichnysa auton sidēron, hōs kai ta pyros ergazesthai, ou metedale tēn physin autou, oude hē tou Theou pros to sōma henōsis metadolē sōmatos estin, kaïtoi tou sōmatos tas theias energeias parthchomenou tois ephapsasthai dynamenois. --- Toutois euthys syndpisynaptei. Ei anthrōpos kai psychēn echei kai sōma, kai menei tauta en henotēti onta’ pollǭ mallon ho Christos theotēta echōn meta sōmatos, echei hekatera diamenonta kai mē snncheomena. --- Kai met᾽ sallin. Metechei men gar hē anthrōpinē tēs theias energeias, kathoson ephikneitai" hetera de estin hōs elachistē megistēs. Kai doulos men anthrōpos tou Theou, ho de Theos hou doulos tou anthrōpon, oude heautou. Kai ho men poiēma tou Theou, ho de oute anthrōpou poiēma, oude heautou. --- Kai met᾽ oliga. Eï kata theotēta epi Christou lamdanei tis to, e«“Ha blepei ton Patera kai autos poiei,» kai mē kata sarka kath᾽ hēn idiaxzei ho sarkōtheis para ton mē sarkōthenta Patera, diairei dyo theias energeias" ou diaireitai de" ouk ara theotēta legei. --- EIt᾽ authis kai tauta tetheiken. “Hōsper ho anthrōpos ouk alogos proskeimenou tou logikou tǭ alogǭ, houtōs oude ho Sōtēr ktisma proskeimenou tǭ achtistǭ Theǭ tou ktismatos. -- Toutois kai tautō episynaptei. To aoraton kai syntethen pros sōma horaton, kai dia toutou theōrēthen, menei kai aoraton" menei de kai asyntheton, katho ou symperiorizetai tǭ sōmati. Kai «ē sōma, menon epi tou idiou metrou, proslamthanei tēn pros Theon henōsin kata to zōopoieisthai, oute to zōopoioumenon zōopoiei. --- Kai met᾽ oliga pan houtōs eirēken. Er mēde hē psychēs pros sōma krasis, kaitoi ex archēs kata symphuiïan ousa, horatēn hautēn dia to sōma poiei, mēde eis ta alla tou sōmatos idiōmata meïathallei, hōste kai temnesthai, kai elattousthai" posǭ mallon ho mē sōmati symphnēs ho Theos ameletētōs henoutai pros sōma? Kai ei to sōma tou anthrōpou epi tēs idias physeōs menei, kai touto ge epsychōmenon, oude epi tou Christou to sōma hē synkrasis mēte metedalen hōs mē einai sōma. ---Kai meta pleista palin tauta tetheikdn. Ho psychēn kai sōma homologōn hōs hen hypo tēs Graphēs paristasthai, heautǭ machetai, tēn toiautēn henōsin tou Logou pros sōma metadolēn einai phaskōn, tautēn oude epi psychēs theōroumenēn. ---“Akouson hautou sali» diarrhēdēn boōgtos. Ei hoi mē legontes paramenein tēn sarka tou Kyriou dyssethousi, pollǭ mallon hoi mēde tēn archēn sesarchōsthai homologountes. --- Kai en tǭ peri sarkōseōs «ogidiǭ padig tauta gegraphe. To men oun, « Kathou ek dexiōn bou, » hōs pros anthrōpon legei" ou gar tǭ aei kathēmenǭ epi thronou doxēs, katho Theos Dogos, eirētai meta tēn anodon tēn ek gēs" alla tǭ nyn eis tēn epouranion hypsōthenti doxan katho anthrōpos, hōs hoi apostoloi legousin" e Ou gar Dadid anethē eis tous ouranous" legei de autos, Eipen ho Kyrios tǭ Kyriǭ mou, Kathou ek dexiōn mou.» ᾿Anthrōpinon men to prostagma, archēn tę̄ kathedrą didoun" theion de to axiōma to synkathēsthai Theǭ, hǭ leitourgousin hai chiliai chiliades, kai parastēchonsin hai myriai myriades. --- Kai met᾽ oliga. Ou gar hōs theǭ hypotassei tous echthrous, all᾽ hōs anthrōpǭ hōste ton auton einai kai Theon horōmenon, kai anthrōpon. Hoti de hōs anthrōpǭ legetai to, « Heōs thō tous echthrous sou hypopodion tōn podōn sou, n» didaskei Paulos, idion autou to katorthōma legōn, kata to theïkon dēladē" « Kata tēn energeias physin, kata to dynasthai auton kai hypotaxai heautǭ panta. » Hora achōristoss en tǭ heni prosōpǭ theotēta kai anthrōpotēta. --- Kai meta brachea. « Doxaton me sy, para seautǭ tę̄ doxę̄ hē eichon pro tou ton kosmon einai para soi.» To men gar doxason, hōs anthrōpos legei" to de echein pro aiōnos tēn doxan hōs Theos apokalyptei.
[Orthodoxos:] You have heard, my good man, the great luminaries of the world, and seen the rays of their teaching; and you have learned exactly that not only after the birth, but also after the saving passion, and the resurrection, and the ascension, they showed the union of the Godhead and the humanity to be unconfused. Eranistes: I did not think that they divided the natures after the union; but I have found a great excess of division. Orthodoxos: It is mad and rash to move one's tongue against those noble men, the champions of the faith. But so that you may know that Apollinarius too says that the union took place without confusion, I will bring you his words as well. Hear him, then, saying: Of Apollinarius, from the book by chapters: “The things of God and of the body are united, then: Creator, worshiped, being eternal Wisdom and Power: these are from the Godhead; son of Mary, born in the last time, worshiping God, advancing in wisdom, strengthened in power: these are from the body. The suffering for sin and the curse … came forth, nor will it pass away, nor be changed into the bodiless … [we are] of one substance with the irrational animals according to the irrational body, but of another substance inasmuch as we are rational. So too God, being of one substance with human beings according to the flesh, is of another substance … Word. For he knows one only-begotten Son, who became flesh … inasmuch as he is Word and human.” And elsewhere he speaks thus: “The qualities of things blended together are blended, not destroyed, so that some are even separated from the things blended, as wine from water. Nor is it a blending with a body, nor such as that of bodies with bodies; but it also has what is unmixed, so that the activity of the Godhead, as is needful each time, either acts by itself or is mingled in, as happened in the Lord's fast. When the Godhead was mingled in according to its freedom from need, hunger was prevented; but when it did not set its freedom from need against the want, hunger came about, for the overthrow of the devil. And if the mixture of bodies was not changed, how much more that of the Godhead?” And in another place he says this: “If the blending with iron, which makes the iron itself fire so that it does the works of fire, did not change its nature, neither is the union of God with the body a change of the body, although the body furnishes divine activities to those able to touch it.” To these he immediately joins: “If a human being has both soul and body, and these remain, being in unity, much more does Christ, having Godhead with a body, have both, remaining and not confused.” And a little later: “For the human [nature] shares in the divine activity as far as it reaches; but it is other, as the least from the greatest. And the human being is a servant of God, but God is not a servant of the human being, nor of himself. And the one is God's handiwork, but the other is neither the handiwork of a human being nor of himself.” And a little later: “If one takes ‘what he sees the Father doing, he himself does’ of Christ according to the Godhead, and not according to the flesh, by which the one made flesh is distinct from the Father who was not made flesh, he divides two divine activities; but they are not divided; therefore he does not speak of the Godhead.” Then again he has set down this too: “Just as the human being is not irrational because the rational is added to the irrational, so neither is the Savior a creature because the creature is added to the uncreated God.” To these he joins this too: “The invisible, though compounded with a visible body and beheld through it, remains invisible; and it remains uncompounded, inasmuch as it is not circumscribed together with the body. And the body, remaining in its own measure, receives the union with God in being given life; nor does what is given life give life.” And a little later he spoke thus: “If not even the blending of soul with body, though it is from the beginning by natural growth together, makes the soul visible through the body, nor changes it into the other properties of the body so that it is cut and diminished, how much more is God, who has not grown together with a body, united to a body without [change]? And if the body of a human being remains in its own nature, and that while ensouled, neither in Christ did the blending change the body so that it is not a body.” And after very much more he has set down this again: “He who confesses soul and body as presented by Scripture as one contradicts himself when he says that such a union of the Word with the body is a change, though this is not seen even in the case of the soul.” Hear him again, crying out expressly: “If those who do not say that the Lord's flesh remains are impious, much more those who do not confess that he was made flesh at all.” And in the little discourse On the Incarnation he again wrote this: “‘Sit at my right hand,’ then, he says as to a human being; for it is not said to the one who always sits on the throne of glory, as God the Word, after the ascent from the earth, but to the one now exalted into the heavenly glory as human, as the apostles say: ‘For David did not ascend into the heavens; but he himself says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand.’ Human is the command, giving a beginning to the sitting; divine is the dignity of sitting with God, whom thousands of thousands serve, and before whom ten thousand times ten thousand stand.” And a little later: “For he subjects the enemies to him not as to God, but as to a human being, so that the same one is both God, being seen, and human. That ‘until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet’ is said to him as to a human being, Paul teaches, calling the achievement his own, that is, according to the divine: ‘according to the working by which he is able even to subject all things to himself.’ See the Godhead and the humanity inseparable in the one person.” And after a short while: “‘Glorify me, you, with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world was.’ For ‘glorify’ he says as human; but having the glory before the age he reveals as God.”
1 Cor 1:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:52 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 3:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 4:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 7:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 3:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: After the florilegium, Orthodoxos quotes Apollinarius himself to show that even he taught an unconfused union: the Godhead and the body keep their properties, as iron keeps its nature in fire and soul and body remain in a human being.
- The quotations of Apollinarius (from his 'book by chapters', other writings, and his little discourse On the Incarnation) are fragments preserved here; Theodoret quotes them to show that even the founder of the 'blending' language distinguished the natures. In the first quotation several lines are interleaved with Migne's Latin column and notes; the Greek is translated by sense and lost words are marked '…'. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: 1 Cor 1:24; Luke 2:52; Gal 3:13; Matt 4:2; John 5:19; Ps 110:1 (LXX 109:1); Acts 2:34–35; Dan 7:10; Phil 3:21; John 17:5.
- “Without [change]”: the Greek as printed has ἀμελετήτως (“without practice”), probably a misreading of ἀμεταβλήτως (“without change”), which the sense requires.
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Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.45 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-45). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.46PG 83
“- Καὶ αὖθις μετ᾽ ὀλίγα. ᾿Αλλ' ἡμεῖς μὴ ταπεινωθῶμὲν ταπεινὴν ἡγησάμενοι τὴν τοῦ Υἱοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ προσκύνησιν, καὶ μετὰ τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης ὁμοιῴσεως, ἀλλ᾽ ὥς τινα βασιλέα καὶ ἐν εὐτελεῖ φανέντα στολῇ τῇ βασιλικῇ δόξῃ δοξάζοντες, καὶ μάλιστα ὁρῶντες καὶ αὐτὸ τὸ ἔνδυμα δοξασθὲν, ὡς ἥρμοττε σώματι Θεοῦ καὶ Σωτῆρι κόσμου, καὶ σπέρματι ζωῆς αἱἰωνίον, καὶ ὀργάνῳ θείων ἐνεργειῶν, καὶ λυτιχῷ κακίας ἁπάσης, καὶ θανάτου χαθαιρετιχῷ, καὶ ἀναστάσεως ἀρχηγῷ. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ τὴν φύσιν ἐξ ἀνθρώπων ἔσχεν, ἀλλὰ τὴν ζωὴν ἐκ Θεοῦ, καὶ τὴν δύναμιν ἐξ οὐρανοῦ, καὶ τὴν ἀρετὴν θείαν. --- Καὶ μετ᾽ ὁ γα. Ὅθεν ἡμεῖς τὸ σῶμα προσκυνοῦμεν, ὡς τὸν Λόγον, ἢ) τοῦ σώματος μετέχομεν, ὡς τοῦ πνεύματος. “- Εἰ Ἰδού σοι καὶ ὁ πρῶτος τῶν φύσεων τὴν κρᾶσιν εἰσάγων, ἀναφανδὸν τῇ διαιρέσε: χρώμενος ἀπἐδείχθη. Οὗτος καὶ στολὴν τὸ σῶμα, καὶ κτίσμα, καὶ ὄργανον προσηγόρευσε. Καὶ μέντοι καὶ δοῦλον ὠνόμβασεν, ὅπερ οὐδεὶς ἡμῶν εἰπεῖν ἐτόλμησε πώποτε. Τοῦτο καὶ τῆς ἐκ δεξιῶν εἴρηκεν ἀξιωθῆναι καθέδρας,
“- Kai authis met᾽ oliga. ᾿All' hēmeis mē tapeinōthōmen tapeinēn hēgēsamenoi tēn tou Huiou tou Theou proskynēsin, kai meta tēs anthrōpinēs homoiǭseōs, all᾽ hōs tina basilea kai en eutelei phanenta stolę̄ tę̄ basilikę̄ doxę̄ doxazontes, kai malista horōntes kai auto to endyma doxasthen, hōs hērmotte sōmati Theou kai Sōtēri kosmou, kai spermati zōēs haiiōnion, kai organǭ theiōn energeiōn, kai lytichǭ kakias hapasēs, kai thanatou chathairetichǭ, kai anastaseōs archēgǭ. Ei gar kai tēn physin ex anthrōpōn eschen, alla tēn zōēn ek Theou, kai tēn dynamin ex ouranou, kai tēn aretēn theian. --- Kai met᾽ ho ga. Hothen hēmeis to sōma proskynoumen, hōs ton Logon, ē) tou sōmatos metechomen, hōs tou pneumatos. “- Ei Idou soi kai ho prōtos tōn physeōn tēn krasin eisagōn, anaphandon tę̄ diairese: chrōmenos apedeichthē. Houtos kai stolēn to sōma, kai ktisma, kai organon prosēgoreuse. Kai mentoi kai doulon ōnombasen, hoper oudeis hēmōn eipein etolmēse pōpote. Touto kai tēs ek dexiōn eirēken axiōthēnai kathedras,
And again, a little later: “But let us not be humbled by thinking the worship of the Son of God lowly, even with the human likeness; but let us glorify him with royal glory, as a king who has appeared even in a cheap robe, especially as we see the very garment glorified, as befitted the body of God and the Savior of the world, the seed of eternal life, the instrument of divine activities, the destroyer of all evil, the overthrower of death, and the author of resurrection. For even if it had its nature from human beings, it had its life from God, its power from heaven, and its virtue divine.” And a little later: “… Hence we worship the body as the Word, and partake of the body as of the spirit.” [Orthodoxos:] See, the very first to introduce the blending of the natures has been shown plainly using division. This man called the body a robe, and a creature, and an instrument. And indeed he named it a servant, which none of us has ever dared to say. He said that this was deemed worthy of the seat at the right hand …
John 4:42 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 3:15 (allusion, low confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The last fragments of Apollinarius call Christ's body a robe glorified with the king's glory and the instrument of divine activities; Orthodoxos concludes that even the inventor of the 'blending' used division, calling the body a robe, creature, instrument and servant. The text then breaks off.
- The text breaks off in mid-sentence: about two pages are lost in the copy used here at the end of the second dialogue and the start of the third, and nothing has been supplied. 'We worship the body as the Word, and partake of the body as of the spirit' is Apollinarius' sentence, translated as written. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: John 4:42; Acts 3:15 (author of life, allusion); Phil 2:7.
Notes on the original text
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Topics: Christology, Heresy, Eucharist
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.46 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-46). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
Chapter 3
3.1PG 83
ΟΡΘ. Τιμωρία τοίνυν τῶν ἡμαρτηκότων ὁ θάνατος. ΟΡΘ. Τί δήποτε τοίνυν, ψυχῆς ὁμοῦ καὶ σώματος ἡμαρτηκότων, τὸ σῶμα μόνον ὑπομένει τοῦ θανάτου τὴν τιμωρίαν ἘΡΑΝ. Αὐτὸ γὰρ εἶδε τὸ ξύλον κακῶς, καὶ τας χεῖρας ἐξέτεινε, καὶ τὸν ἀπειρημένον καρπὸν ἀπεσύλησε. Καὶ αὐτὸ πάλιν τὸ στόμα τοῦτο τοῖς ὁδοῦσιν ἐλέπτυγεν, καὶ ταῖς μύλαις ἐλέανεν. Εἶτ᾽ αὖθις ὁ οἰσοφάγος τοῦτον ὑποδεξάμενος παρέπεμψε τῇ γαστρί" κἀκείνη δὲ ἀλλοιώσασα καὶ τῷ ἥπατι μετέδωκε. Τὸ δέ γε ἧπαρ εἰς αἵματος φύσιν μετέδαλεν ὅπερ ἔλαδε, καὶ τῇ κοίλῃ φλεδὶ παραδέδωκεν " ἐκείνη δὲ ταῖς συμφυέσι, κἀκεῖναι διὰ τῶν ἄλλων τῷ σώματι" καὶ οὕτως εἰς ἅπαν διέδη τὸ σῶμα τῆς ἀπειρημένης βρώσεως ἡ λῃστεία. Εἰκότως τοίνυν τὸ σῶμα μόνον τὴν ὑπὲρ τῆς ἁμαρτίας ὑπέμεινε τιμωρίαν. ΟΡΘ. Φυσιολογικῶς ἡμῖν τὰ περὶ τῆς τροφῆς διεξελήλυθας, καὶ δι᾽ ὅσων αὕτη μορίων ὁδεύουσα, καὶ πόσας ἀλλοιώσεις ὑφισταμένη, ὕστερον εἰς τὴν τοῦ σώματος μεταδάλλεται φύσιν. Ἐκεῖνο μέντοι συνιδεῖν οὐκ ἠθέλησας, ὡς δίχα ψυχῆς τούτων οὐδὲν “ὃ σῶμα τῶν εἰρημένων ἐργάζεται. Καταλειφθὲν γὰρ ὑπὸ τῆς συνεζευγμένης ψυχῆς, χεῖται ἄπνουν, καὶ ἄφωνον, καὶ ἀκίνητον ᾿ καὶ οὔτε ὀφθαλμὸς ὁρᾷ κακῶς, οὔτ᾽ αὖ καλῶς, οὔτε τὰ ὦτα εἰσδέχεται τῶν φωνῶν τὴν ἧχήν " οὐ κινοῦνται χεῖρες, οὐ βαδίζουσι πόδες " ἀλλ᾽ ἔοικεν ὀργάνῳ ἐστερημένῳ τοῦ μουσικοῦ. Πῶς οὖν ἔφησθα μόνον ἡμαρτηκέναι τὸ σῶμα, τὸ δίχα ψυχῆς μηδὲ ἀναπνεῖν τὸ παράπαν δυνάμενον; τῆς ψυχῆς, προξενεῖ δὲ τῇ ψυχῇ τῆς ἁμαρτίας τὴν ἐπιζήμιον κτῆσιν. ΟΡΘ. Πῶς καὶ τίνα τρόπον; ΕΡΑΝ. Διὰ μὲν ὀφθαλμῶν, ὁρᾷν αὐτὴν παρασκευάζει κακῶς ᾿ διὰ δὲ τῶν ἀκοῶν, ἀκούειν ἃ μὴ συμφέρει, καὶ διὰ τῆς γλώττης, τὰ λυμαινόμενα φθέγγεσθαι καὶ διὰ τῶν ἄλλων μορίων ἃ μὴ θέμις ποιεῖν. : ΟΡΘ. Τοὺς κωφοὺς ἡμῖν ὡς ἐοικε μαχαριστέον, καὶ τοὺς τὸ βλέπειν ἀφῇῃρημένονς, καὶ τῶν ἄλλων μορίων ἐστερημένους. Οὐ γὰρ μεταλαγχάνουσι τούτων α ψυκαὶ τῆς πονηρίας τοῦ σώματος. Τί δήποτε δὲ, ὦ. Ὁ σοφώτατε, τῶν μὲν ψεχτῶν τοῦ σώματος ἐμνήσθης γὰρ καὶ φιλικῶς, καὶ φιλανθρώπως ἰδεῖν, καὶ κατανύξεως ἀπομόρξασθαι δάκρυον, καὶ θείων ἀκοῦσαι λογίων, καὶ κλῖναι δεομένῳ τὸ οὖς, καὶ ὑμνῆσαι τῇ Ὑλώττη τὸν ποιητὴν, καὶ διδάξαι τὸν πέλας ἃ δεῖ, καὶ κινεῖσθαι τὰς χεῖρας εἰς ἕλεον, καὶ σνλλήδδην εἰπεῖν, εἰς ἄπασαν κτῆσιν ἀρετῆς χρήσασθαι τοῖς μορίοις τοῦ σώματος. ΟΡΘ. Οὐκοῦν κοινὸν ψυχῆς καὶ σώματος, καὶ τὸ φυλάττειν, καὶ τὸ παραθαΐνειν τοὺς νόμους. ΟΡΘ. Ἐμοὶ δοκεῖ καὶ ἄρχειν ἑκατέρου τὴν ψυχὴν, τῷ λογισμῷ πρὸ τοῦ σώματο; χεχρημένην. ΕΡΑΝ. Πῶς τοῦτο λέγεις : ΟΡΘ. Ὅτι τὸ πρῶτον ὁ νοῦς τὴν ἀρετὴν ἣ τὴν κακίαν σχιαγραφεῖ, εἶθ᾽ οὕτως αὐτὴν διαμορφοῖ, ὀργάνοις μὲν κεχρημένος τοῖς μορίοις τοῦ σώματος, χρώμασι δὲ καὶ ὕλαις, ταῖς εἰς ἑκάτερα προαφόροις. ΟΡΘ. Εἰ τοίνυν δυναμαρτάνει τῷ σώματι, μᾶλλον δὲ ἄρχει τῆς ἁμαρτίας" ἡνιοχεῖν Ὑὰρ τὸ ζῴώον καὶ χυδερνᾷν ἐπιστεύθη" τί δήποτε κοινωνοῦσα τῆς ἀμαρτίας οὐ κοινωνεΐ τῆς τιμωρίας;
ORTh. Timōria toinyn tōn hēmartēkotōn ho thanatos. ORTh. Ti dēpote toinyn, psychēs homou kai sōmatos hēmartēkotōn, to sōma monon hypomenei tou thanatou tēn timōrian ERAN. Auto gar eide to xylon kakōs, kai tas cheiras exeteine, kai ton apeirēmenon karpon apesylēse. Kai auto palin to stoma touto tois hodousin eleptygen, kai tais mylais eleanen. Eit᾽ authis ho oisophagos touton hypodexamenos parepempse tę̄ gastri" kakeinē de alloiōsasa kai tǭ hēpati metedōke. To de ge hēpar eis haimatos physin metedalen hoper elade, kai tę̄ koilę̄ phledi paradedōken " ekeinē de tais symphyesi, kakeinai dia tōn allōn tǭ sōmati" kai houtōs eis hapan diedē to sōma tēs apeirēmenēs brōseōs hē lę̄steia. Eikotōs toinyn to sōma monon tēn hyper tēs hamartias hypemeine timōrian. ORTh. Physiologikōs hēmin ta peri tēs trophēs diexelēlythas, kai di᾽ hosōn hautē moriōn hodeuousa, kai posas alloiōseis hyphistamenē, hysteron eis tēn tou sōmatos metadalletai physin. Ekeino mentoi synidein ouk ēthelēsas, hōs dicha psychēs toutōn ouden “ho sōma tōn eirēmenōn ergazetai. Kataleiphthen gar hypo tēs synezeugmenēs psychēs, cheitai apnoun, kai aphōnon, kai akinēton ᾿ kai oute ophthalmos horą kakōs, out᾽ au kalōs, oute ta ōta eisdechetai tōn phōnōn tēn hēchēn " ou kinountai cheires, ou badizousi podes " all᾽ eoiken organǭ esterēmenǭ tou mousikou. Pōs oun ephēstha monon hēmartēkenai to sōma, to dicha psychēs mēde anapnein to parapan dynamenon? tēs psychēs, proxenei de tę̄ psychę̄ tēs hamartias tēn epizēmion ktēsin. ORTh. Pōs kai tina tropon? ERAN. Dia men ophthalmōn, horąn autēn paraskeuazei kakōs ᾿ dia de tōn akoōn, akouein ha mē sympherei, kai dia tēs glōttēs, ta lymainomena phthengesthai kai dia tōn allōn moriōn ha mē themis poiein. : ORTh. Tous kōphous hēmin hōs eoike macharisteon, kai tous to blepein aphę̄ę̄rēmenons, kai tōn allōn moriōn esterēmenous. Ou gar metalanchanousi toutōn a psykai tēs ponērias tou sōmatos. Ti dēpote de, ō. Ho sophōtate, tōn men psechtōn tou sōmatos emnēsthēs gar kai philikōs, kai philanthrōpōs idein, kai katanyxeōs apomorxasthai dakryon, kai theiōn akousai logiōn, kai klinai deomenǭ to ous, kai hymnēsai tę̄ Hylōttē ton poiētēn, kai didaxai ton pelas ha dei, kai kineisthai tas cheiras eis heleon, kai snllēddēn eipein, eis apasan ktēsin aretēs chrēsasthai tois moriois tou sōmatos. ORTh. Oukoun koinon psychēs kai sōmatos, kai to phylattein, kai to parathaïnein tous nomous. ORTh. Emoi dokei kai archein hekaterou tēn psychēn, tǭ logismǭ pro tou sōmato? chechrēmenēn. ERAN. Pōs touto legeis : ORTh. Hoti to prōton ho nous tēn aretēn hē tēn kakian schiagraphei, eith᾽ houtōs autēn diamorphoi, organois men kechrēmenos tois moriois tou sōmatos, chrōmasi de kai hylais, tais eis hekatera proaphorois. ORTh. Ei toinyn dynamartanei tǭ sōmati, mallon de archei tēs hamartias" hēniochein Hyar to zǭōon kai chydernąn episteuthē" ti dēpote koinōnousa tēs amartias ou koinōneï tēs timōrias?
… Orthodoxos: Death, then, is the punishment of those who have sinned. … Orthodoxos: Why, then, when soul and body together have sinned, does the body alone undergo the punishment of death? Eranistes: Because it was the body that looked wrongly at the tree, and stretched out its hands, and plucked the forbidden fruit. Again, this same mouth ground it fine with its teeth and milled it with its molars. Then the gullet in turn received it and passed it on to the stomach; and the stomach, having altered it, passed it on to the liver. The liver changed what it received into the nature of blood and handed it to the hollow vein; that vein handed it to the veins joined to it, and these through the others to the body; and so the theft of the forbidden food passed through the whole body. Rightly, then, the body alone underwent the punishment for the sin. Orthodoxos: You have gone through the matter of nourishment for us like a natural philosopher: through how many parts it travels and how many alterations it undergoes before it is finally changed into the nature of the body. But you were unwilling to see this: that without the soul the body does none of the things you have mentioned. For when it is left by the soul yoked to it, it lies breathless, voiceless, and motionless; the eye sees neither wrongly nor rightly, the ears do not receive the sound of voices, the hands do not move, the feet do not walk; it is like an instrument deprived of its musician. How, then, did you say that the body alone had sinned, when without the soul it cannot even breathe at all? … of the soul, but it procures for the soul the harmful acquisition of sin. Orthodoxos: How, and in what way? Eranistes: Through the eyes it prepares the soul to see wrongly; through the hearing, to hear what is not profitable; through the tongue, to utter what is ruinous; and through the other parts, to do what is unlawful. Orthodoxos: Then, it seems, we must call the deaf blessed, and those deprived of sight, and those who lack the other parts; for their souls do not share in the wickedness of the body. But why, most wise friend, did you mention only the blameworthy things of the body …? For it can also look in a friendly and kindly way, and wipe away a tear of compunction, and hear the divine oracles, and incline the ear to one in need, and praise the Maker with the tongue, and teach one’s neighbor what he should, and move the hands to mercy, and, in a word, use the parts of the body for the acquisition of every virtue. … Orthodoxos: Then both keeping and transgressing the laws are common to soul and body. … Orthodoxos: It seems to me that the soul even leads in each of them, using reasoning before the body. Eranistes: How do you mean this? Orthodoxos: Because the mind first sketches the virtue or the vice, and then gives it its full form, using the parts of the body as instruments, and, as colors and materials, those that suit either. … Orthodoxos: If, then, the soul sins together with the body, or rather leads in the sin (for it was entrusted with driving and steering the living creature), why does it share in the sin and not share in the punishment?
Gen 3:6 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Eranistes argues that the body alone sinned and so alone dies; Orthodoxos shows that the soul leads the body in both sin and virtue.
- Dialogue 3 (“Impassible”) begins here in mid-discussion: about two pages are lost in the OCR text used here at the end of Dialogue 2 and the start of Dialogue 3, including the opening of this dialogue, and nothing has been supplied. Many further lines and speaker replies have dropped out where “…” is printed (where two speeches of Orthodoxos follow each other, Eranistes’ reply between them is lost). Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). “The hollow vein” is the vena cava of ancient physiology. A few OCR slips (e.g. “the souls” in “their souls do not share”) are translated by sense. Allusion: Gen 3:6.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word; OCR misreading of δίχα ψυχῆς): τὸ δέκα Ψυχῆς → τὸ δίχα ψυχῆς; ψυ α ΟἈΤΗ͂. Μιμπὶ ἱπ χὴν → ψυχὴν.
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.1 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
3.2PG 83
ΕΡΑΝ. Καὶ πῶς οἷον τ᾽ ἣν τὴν ἀθάνατον θανάτου ΟΡΘ. Δίκαιον δὲ ἣν ὅμως μετασχοῦσαν τῆς παρα- δάσεως μετασχεῖν τῆς κολάσεως. ΟΡΘ. Ἐν δέ γε τῷ μέλλοντι βίῳ, μεξὰ τοῦ σώματος τῇ γεέννῃ παραδοθήσεται, ΕΡΑΝ. Οὕτως εἴρηκε᾽ ε« Μὴ φοδῆαθε ἀπὸ τῶν ἀποκτενόντων τὸ σῶμα, τὴν δὲ ψνχὴν μὴ δυναμένων ἀποκτεῖναι " φοδηθῆτε δὲ μᾶλλον τὸν καὶ ψυχὴν καὶ σῶμα δυνάμενον ἀπολέσαι ἐν γεέννῃ- » ΟΡΘ. Οὐχοὺν ἐν μὲν τῷδε τῷ βίῳ διέφυγε τὸν θάνάτον, ὡς ἀθάνατος " ἐν ἐκείνῳ δὲ τῷ βίῳ δώσει δίκας, οὐ θάνατον ὑπομένουσα, ἀλλ᾽ ἐν ζωῇ χολαζομένη. ΕΡΑΙΝν, Ἢ θεία καὶ τοῦτο διδάσκει Γράφη. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αδύνατον ἄρα θάνατον ὑπομεῖναι τὴν ἀθά- ΟΡΘ. Πῶς τοίνυν τὸν Θεὸν Λόγον γεύσασθα: θανάτου φατέ; Εἰ γάρ ἔνθα κτιστὸν τὸ ἀθάνατον, ἀδύνᾶτον ὥφθη τοῦτο γενέσθαι θνητὸν, πῶς οἷἦόν τε τὸν ἀκτίστως καὶ ἀϊδίως ἀθάνατον, τὸν τῶν θνητῶν καὶ ἀθανάτων φύσεων ποιητὴν, θανάτου μεταλαχεῖν; ΕΡΑΝ. ἰσμεν αὐτου καὶ ἡμεῖς τὴν φυσιν αὐᾶνατον, σαρκὶ δὲ αὐτόν φαμεν μετεσχηχέναι θανάτου. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αλλὰ διαῤῥήδην ἡμεῖς ἀπεδείξαμεν, ὡς χατ'᾿ οὐδένα τρόπον δυνατὸν θανάτου μεταςχεῖν τὸ φύσει ἀθάνατον. Οὐδὲ γὰρ ἣ ψυχὴ συνδημιουργὴησχοῦτά γε τῆς ἁμαρτίας, ἐκείνῳ ἐκοινώνησε τοῦ θανάτον διὰ μόνην τὴν ἀθανασίαν τῆς φύσεως. Ταὐτὸ δὲ τοῦτο καὶ ἑτέρω; σκοπήσωμεν. ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐδὲν κωλύει πάντα κινῆσαι πόρον, ὥστε τ᾽ ἀληθὲς ἐξευρεῖν. ΟΡΘ. Ζητήσωμεν τοίνυν ὧδί. Τῆς ἀρετῆς καὶ τῆς κακίας φαμέν τινας μὲν εἶναι διδασκάλους, τινὰς δὲ τούτων αὐτῶν φοιτητάς; ΟΡΘ. Τὸν δέ γε τῆς ἀρετῆς διδάσκαλον ὑυειζόνων ἐἶναι λέγομεν ἄξιον ἀντιδόσεων; ΟΡΘ. Ὡσαύτως δὲ καὶ τὸν τῆς κακίας, διπλατίας καὶ τριπλασία: ἄξιον τιμωρίας; ΟΡΘ. Τὸν δὲ διάδολον ποίας θετέον μερίδος; διδάσκαλον εἶναί φαμεν, ἢ μαθητήν; ΕΡΑΝ. Διδαοκάλων μὲν οὖν διδάσκαλον. Αὐτὸς γὰρ πάσης κακίας ἐστὶ καὶ πατὴρ καὶ διδάσκαλος. ΟΡΘ. Τίνες δὲ ἄρα τούτου ἀνθρώπων πρῶτοι γε- ΕΡΑΝ. Ὁ ᾿Αδὰμ, καὶ ἡ Εὔα. 0ΡΘ. Τίνες δὲ τὴν ψῆφον τοῦ θανάτου ἐδέξαντο : ΕΡΑΝ. Ὁ ᾿Αδὰμ, καὶ πᾶν τοῦδε τὸ γένος. ΟΡΘ. Οἱ μαθηταὶ ἄρα δίκας ἔδοσαν ὑπὲρ ὧν κακῶς ἐδιδάχθησαν " τὸν δέ γε διδάσκαλον, ὃν ἀρτίως εἰρήκαμεν διπλασίας εἶναι καὶ τριπλασία: γε κολάσεως ἄξιον, καὶ τὴν τιμωρίαν διαφυγεῖν; ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αλλ'᾽ ὅμως καὶ τούτων οὕτω γεγενημένων, δίκαιον τὸν κριτὴν, καὶ ἴσμεν καὶ ὀνομάζομεν. ΟΡΘ. Τί δήποτε τοίνυν δίκαιος ὧν, οὐκ εἰσέπραξεν ἐκεῖνον τῆς χαχῆῇς διδασκαλίας εὐθύνας - ΕΡΑΝ, Αὐτῷ τὴν ἄσδεστον τῆς γεέννης κατεσκεύασε φλόγα. ε Πορεύεσθε γὰρ, φησὶν, οἱ κατηραμένοι εἰς τὸ πῦρ τὸ αἰώνιον, τὸ ἡτοιμασμένον τῷ διαδόλῳ καὶ τοῖς ἀγγέλοις αὐτοῦ. » Ἐνταῦθα δὲ, τούτου χάριν οὐκ ἐχοινώνησεν τοῦ θανάτου τοῖς μαθηταῖς, ὡς φύσιν ἔχων ἀθάνατον.
ERAN. Kai pōs hoion t᾽ hēn tēn athanaton thanatou ORTh. Dikaion de hēn homōs metaschousan tēs para- daseōs metaschein tēs kolaseōs. ORTh. En de ge tǭ mellonti biǭ, mexa tou sōmatos tę̄ geennę̄ paradothēsetai, ERAN. Houtōs eirēke᾽ e« Mē phodēathe apo tōn apoktenontōn to sōma, tēn de psnchēn mē dynamenōn apokteinai " phodēthēte de mallon ton kai psychēn kai sōma dynamenon apolesai en geennę̄- » ORTh. Ouchoun en men tǭde tǭ biǭ diephyge ton thanaton, hōs athanatos " en ekeinǭ de tǭ biǭ dōsei dikas, ou thanaton hypomenousa, all᾽ en zōę̄ cholazomenē. ERAINn, Ē theia kai touto didaskei Graphē. ORTh. ᾿Adynaton ara thanaton hypomeinai tēn atha- ORTh. Pōs toinyn ton Theon Logon geusastha: thanatou phate? Ei gar entha ktiston to athanaton, adynaton hōphthē touto genesthai thnēton, pōs hoiēon te ton aktistōs kai aïdiōs athanaton, ton tōn thnētōn kai athanatōn physeōn poiētēn, thanatou metalachein? ERAN. ismen autou kai hēmeis tēn physin auanaton, sarki de auton phamen meteschēchenai thanatou. ORTh. ᾿Alla diarrhēdēn hēmeis apedeixamen, hōs chat'᾿ oudena tropon dynaton thanatou metaschein to physei athanaton. Oude gar hē psychē syndēmiourgēēschouta ge tēs hamartias, ekeinǭ ekoinōnēse tou thanaton dia monēn tēn athanasian tēs physeōs. Tauto de touto kai heterō? skopēsōmen. ERAN. Ouden kōlyei panta kinēsai poron, hōste t᾽ alēthes exeurein. ORTh. Zētēsōmen toinyn hōdi. Tēs aretēs kai tēs kakias phamen tinas men einai didaskalous, tinas de toutōn autōn phoitētas? ORTh. Ton de ge tēs aretēs didaskalon hyyeizonōn einai legomen axion antidoseōn? ORTh. Hōsautōs de kai ton tēs kakias, diplatias kai triplasia: axion timōrias? ORTh. Ton de diadolon poias theteon meridos? didaskalon einai phamen, ē mathētēn? ERAN. Didaokalōn men oun didaskalon. Autos gar pasēs kakias esti kai patēr kai didaskalos. ORTh. Tines de ara toutou anthrōpōn prōtoi ge- ERAN. Ho ᾿Adam, kai hē Eua. 0RTh. Tines de tēn psēphon tou thanatou edexanto : ERAN. Ho ᾿Adam, kai pan toude to genos. ORTh. Hoi mathētai ara dikas edosan hyper hōn kakōs edidachthēsan " ton de ge didaskalon, hon artiōs eirēkamen diplasias einai kai triplasia: ge kolaseōs axion, kai tēn timōrian diaphygein? ORTh. ᾿All'᾽ homōs kai toutōn houtō gegenēmenōn, dikaion ton kritēn, kai ismen kai onomazomen. ORTh. Ti dēpote toinyn dikaios hōn, ouk eisepraxen ekeinon tēs chachēę̄s didaskalias euthynas - ERAN, Autǭ tēn asdeston tēs geennēs kateskeuase phloga. e Poreuesthe gar, phēsin, hoi katēramenoi eis to pyr to aiōnion, to hētoimasmenon tǭ diadolǭ kai tois angelois autou. » Entautha de, toutou charin ouk echoinōnēsen tou thanatou tois mathētais, hōs physin echōn athanaton.
Eranistes: And how was it possible for the immortal [soul] … death … Orthodoxos: Yet it was just that, having shared in the transgression, it should share in the chastisement. … Orthodoxos: But in the life to come it will be handed over to Gehenna together with the body? Eranistes: So he has said: “Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but fear rather him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.” Orthodoxos: Then in this life it escaped death, as immortal; but in that life it will pay the penalty, not by undergoing death but by being punished while alive. Eranistes: The divine Scripture teaches this too. Orthodoxos: It is impossible, then, for the immortal [soul] to undergo death. … Orthodoxos: How, then, do you say that God the Word tasted death? For if, where the immortal is something created, it has been seen to be impossible for it to become mortal, how is it possible for him who is uncreatedly and eternally immortal, the Maker of mortal and immortal natures, to partake of death? Eranistes: We too know that his nature is immortal, but we say that he partook of death in the flesh. Orthodoxos: But we have shown expressly that what is immortal by nature can in no way partake of death. For not even the soul, though it had a share in working the sin, shared death with the body, solely because of the immortality of its nature. Let us examine this same point another way too. Eranistes: Nothing prevents us from trying every path to find the truth. Orthodoxos: Let us inquire, then, in this way. Do we say that, of virtue and of vice, some are teachers and others are pupils of these? … Orthodoxos: And do we say that the teacher of virtue is worthy of greater rewards? … Orthodoxos: And likewise that the teacher of vice is worthy of double and triple punishment? … Orthodoxos: In which portion must the devil be placed? Do we say he is a teacher or a pupil? Eranistes: A teacher of teachers, rather. For he is both father and teacher of all wickedness. Orthodoxos: And who among human beings first became his [pupils]? Eranistes: Adam and Eve. Orthodoxos: And who received the sentence of death? Eranistes: Adam and all his race. Orthodoxos: So the pupils paid the penalty for what they were wrongly taught; and did the teacher, whom we just said is worthy of double and triple chastisement, escape the punishment? … Orthodoxos: But nevertheless, even though these things happened so, we both know and call the judge just. … Orthodoxos: Why, then, being just, did he not exact from that one the penalty for his evil teaching? Eranistes: He has prepared for him the unquenchable flame of Gehenna. For he says, “Go, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” But here he did not share death with his pupils for this reason, that he has an immortal nature.
Matt 10:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:41 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 2:9 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Orthodoxos argues that the immortal soul, and even the devil, cannot die because their nature is immortal, so the eternally immortal Word cannot have died either.
- Lines have dropped out of the OCR where “…” is printed, including the end of Eranistes’ opening question and the replies between Orthodoxos’ questions. Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections); the garbled phrase rendered “though it had a share in working the sin” is translated by sense. Quotations: Matt 10:28; Matt 25:41. Allusion: Heb 2:9 (“tasted death”).
Notes on the original text
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Topics: Christology, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.2 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
3.3PG 83
ΟΡΘ. Οὑδὲ οἱ τὰ μέγιστα ἄρα πλημμελήσαντες νάτου οἴονται μετασχεῖν, εἰ φύσιν ἀθάνατον ἔχοιεν. ΟΡΘ. Εἰ τοίνυν οὐδὲ αὐτὸς ὁ τῆς κακίας εὑρετὴς καὶ διδάσκαλος μετέλαχς θανάτου διὰ τὴν ἀθανασίαν τῆς φύσεως, πῶς οὐ πεφρίχατε λέγοντες τὴν τῆς ἀθανασίας καὶ δικαιοσύνης πηγὴν μετεσχηχέναι θανάτου - ΕΡΑΝ, Εἰ μὲν ἀκουσίως αὐτὸν ὑπομεμενηκέναι τὸ πάθος ἐλέγομεν, ἔσχεν ἂν πρόφασιν ἡ καθ ἡμῶν παρ᾽ ὑμῶν γινομένη κατηγορία δικαίαν. Ἐὶ δ᾽ αὐθαίρετον τὸ πάθος καὶ ὁ θάνατος ἐθελούσιος σεται παρ᾽ ἡμῶν, οὐ κατηγορεῖν ἡμῶν, ἀλλ᾽ ὑμνεῖν προσήκει τὴν τῆς φιλανθρωπίας ὑπερδολήν. Ἐθελή- Ὁ “ας γὰρ πέπονθε, καὶ βουληθεὶς τοῦ θανάτου μεῖ- ΟΡΘ. Πάμπαν, ὡς ἔοικε, τὴν θείαν ἡγνοήχατε φύσιν. Ὃ γὰρ Δεσπότης θεὸς οὐδὲν ὧν μὴ πέφυκε βούλεται, πάντα δὲ ὅσα βούλεται δύναται. Βούλεται δὲ τὰ τῇ οἰκείᾳ φύπει πρόσφορά τε καὶ πρέποντα. ΕΡΑΝ. Ἡμεῖς μεμαθήκαμεν ἅπαντα δυνατὰ τῷ Θεῷ. τῷ λόγῳ καὶ ὅσα προσήκει τῇ τοῦ διαδόλον μερίδι, Ὃ γὰρ ἀπολυτω; παντα εἰπὼν, καὶ τὰ ἀγαθὰ, καὶ πὰ τούτων ἐναντία κατὰ ταὐτὸν εἴρηκεν. ΕΡΑΝ. Ὁ οὖν γενναῖος Ἰὼδ οὐκ ἀπολύτως εἴρηκεν, « Οἶδα ὅτι πάντα δύνασαι, ἀδυνατεῖ δέ σοι οὐδέν: » ΟΡΘ. Εἰ ἀναγνοίης τὰ τῷ δικαίῳ προειρημένα, καὶ τὸν τούτων ἐξ ἐχείνων εὑρήσεις σκοπόν. "ἔφη δὲ οὕτως " « Μνήσθητι ὅτι πηλόν με ἔπλασας, εἷς δὲ γῆν με ἀποστρέφεις" ἢ οὐκ ὡς γάλα με ἤμελξας, ἔπηξας δέ με ἴσα τυρῷ; Δέρμα καὶ κρέας ἐνέδυσάς 5, ὁστέοις δὲ καὶ νεύροις ἐνεῖράς με᾿ ζωὴν δὲ καὶ ἕλεον ἔθου παρ᾽ ἐμοὶ. ἡ δὲ ἐπισκοπή σου ἐφύλαττέ βου τὰ τνεῦμα.» Τούτοις ἐπάγει, ε« Ταῦτα ἔχων ἐν ἐμαυτῷ, οἶδα ὅτι πάντα δύνασαι, ἀδυνατεῖ σοι δὲ οὐδέν. » Οὐκοῦν ὅσα τούτοις συμθαίνει, καὶ τῇ ἀκηράτῳ φύσει πρέπειν ἔφη, τῷ τῶν ὅλων θεῷ; ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐδὲν ἀδύνατον τῷ παντοδυνάμῳ Θεῷ. ΟΡΘ. Καὶ τὸ ἀμαρτάνειν ἄρα δυνατὸν τῷ παντοδυνάμῳ θεῷ, κατά γε τὸν ὄρον τὸν σόν " ΕΡΑΝ. Ἐπειδήπερ οὐ βούλεται. - ΟΡΘ. Οὗ δὲ χάριν οὐ βούλεται; ΕΡΑΝ. Ἐπειδὴ τῆς φύσεως ἐκείνης τὸ ἀμαρτάνειν ἀλλότριον. ΟΡΘ. Πολλὰ τοίνυν οὐ δύναται" πολλὰ γὰρ εἴδη πλημμελημάτων. ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐδὲν τῶν τοιούτων ἣ βουλητὸν, ἣ δυνατὸν «ὦ θεῷ. ΟΡΘ. Οὔτε μὴν ἐκεῖνα, ἃ τῆς φύσεώς; ἐστιν ἐναν- ὐ τία τῆς θείας. ΟΡΘ. Οἷον, φῶς νοερόν τε χαι ἀληθινὸν εἶναι τὸν Θεὸν ἐδιδάχθημεν. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὖκ ἂν αὐτὸν φαίημεν σκότος, ἣ βουληθῆναι, ἢ δυνηθῆναι γενέσθαι. ΟΡΘ. Πάλιν ἀόρατον αὐτοῦ τὸν φυσιν ἢ θεία λέγει Γραφή. ΟΡΘ. ᾿᾿Αλλ᾽ ὁρατὴν αὐτὴν οὐκ ἂν εἴποιμεν δύνασθαι γενέσθαι ποτέ. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Ακατάληπτος γάρ ἐστι, καὶ πάμπαν ἀνἐφιχτος.. : ΟΡΘ. Οὐκοῦν οὐδὲ ὁ ὧν γένοιτ᾽ ἂν οὐκ ὦν. ΟΩΡΘ. Οὐδέ γε ὁ Πατὴρ Υἱός. ΟΡΘ. Οὐδέ γε ἀγέννητος ἄρα ἘΡΑΝ. Πῶς γάρ;
ORTh. Houde hoi ta megista ara plēmmelēsantes natou oiontai metaschein, ei physin athanaton echoien. ORTh. Ei toinyn oude autos ho tēs kakias heuretēs kai didaskalos metelachs thanatou dia tēn athanasian tēs physeōs, pōs ou pephrichate legontes tēn tēs athanasias kai dikaiosynēs pēgēn meteschēchenai thanatou - ERAN, Ei men akousiōs auton hypomemenēkenai to pathos elegomen, eschen an prophasin hē kath hēmōn par᾽ hymōn ginomenē katēgoria dikaian. Ei d᾽ authaireton to pathos kai ho thanatos ethelousios setai par᾽ hēmōn, ou katēgorein hēmōn, all᾽ hymnein prosēkei tēn tēs philanthrōpias hyperdolēn. Ethelē- Ho “as gar peponthe, kai boulētheis tou thanatou mei- ORTh. Pampan, hōs eoike, tēn theian hēgnoēchate physin. Ho gar Despotēs theos ouden hōn mē pephyke bouletai, panta de hosa bouletai dynatai. Bouletai de ta tę̄ oikeią phypei prosphora te kai preponta. ERAN. Hēmeis memathēkamen hapanta dynata tǭ Theǭ. tǭ logǭ kai hosa prosēkei tę̄ tou diadolon meridi, Ho gar apolytō? panta eipōn, kai ta agatha, kai pa toutōn enantia kata tauton eirēken. ERAN. Ho oun gennaios Iōd ouk apolytōs eirēken, « Oida hoti panta dynasai, adynatei de soi ouden: » ORTh. Ei anagnoiēs ta tǭ dikaiǭ proeirēmena, kai ton toutōn ex echeinōn heurēseis skopon. "ephē de houtōs " « Mnēsthēti hoti pēlon me eplasas, heis de gēn me apostrepheis" ē ouk hōs gala me ēmelxas, epēxas de me isa tyrǭ? Derma kai kreas enedysas 5, hosteois de kai neurois eneiras me᾿ zōēn de kai heleon ethou par᾽ emoi. hē de episkopē sou ephylatte bou ta tneuma.» Toutois epagei, e« Tauta echōn en emautǭ, oida hoti panta dynasai, adynatei soi de ouden. » Oukoun hosa toutois symthainei, kai tę̄ akēratǭ physei prepein ephē, tǭ tōn holōn theǭ? ERAN. Ouden adynaton tǭ pantodynamǭ Theǭ. ORTh. Kai to amartanein ara dynaton tǭ pantodynamǭ theǭ, kata ge ton oron ton son " ERAN. Epeidēper ou bouletai. - ORTh. Hou de charin ou bouletai? ERAN. Epeidē tēs physeōs ekeinēs to amartanein allotrion. ORTh. Polla toinyn ou dynatai" polla gar eidē plēmmelēmatōn. ERAN. Ouden tōn toioutōn hē boulēton, hē dynaton «ō theǭ. ORTh. Oute mēn ekeina, ha tēs physeōs? estin enan- y tia tēs theias. ORTh. Hoion, phōs noeron te chai alēthinon einai ton Theon edidachthēmen. ORTh. ᾿All᾽ ouk an auton phaiēmen skotos, hē boulēthēnai, ē dynēthēnai genesthai. ORTh. Palin aoraton autou ton physin ē theia legei Graphē. ORTh. ᾿᾿All᾽ horatēn autēn ouk an eipoimen dynasthai genesthai pote. ORTh. ᾿Akatalēptos gar esti, kai pampan anephichtos.. : ORTh. Oukoun oude ho hōn genoit᾽ an ouk ōn. OŌRTh. Oude ge ho Patēr Huios. ORTh. Oude ge agennētos ara ERAN. Pōs gar?
Orthodoxos: So not even those who have committed the greatest offences think they partake of death, if they have an immortal nature. … Orthodoxos: If, then, not even the very inventor and teacher of wickedness partook of death, because of the immortality of his nature, how do you not shudder when you say that the fountain of immortality and righteousness partook of death? Eranistes: If we said that he endured the passion unwillingly, the accusation you bring against us would have had a just pretext. But if we [confess] the passion as freely chosen and the death as voluntary, you ought not to accuse us but to praise the surpassing greatness of his love for humankind. For he suffered willingly, and he partook of death because he willed it … Orthodoxos: It seems you are altogether ignorant of the divine nature. For the Lord God wills nothing that is not in his nature, but all that he wills he can do. And he wills what is suited and fitting to his own nature. Eranistes: We have learned that all things are possible for God. … in the word also whatever belongs to the devil’s portion. For he who said “all things” without qualification has included in the same breath both the good things and their opposites. Eranistes: Did not the noble Job, then, say without qualification, “I know that you can do all things, and nothing is impossible for you”? Orthodoxos: If you read what the righteous man said before this, you will find from it the aim of these words too. For he spoke thus: “Remember that you formed me as clay, and you turn me back into earth. Did you not milk me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese? You clothed me with skin and flesh, and knit me together with bones and sinews; you set life and mercy with me, and your oversight guarded my spirit.” To these words he adds: “Having these things in myself, I know that you can do all things, and nothing is impossible for you.” Did he not, then, say that whatever accords with these things is also fitting to the undefiled nature, the God of the universe? Eranistes: Nothing is impossible for the almighty God. Orthodoxos: Then sinning too is possible for the almighty God, according to your definition at least. Eranistes: [No,] since he does not will it. Orthodoxos: And why does he not will it? Eranistes: Because sinning is foreign to that nature. Orthodoxos: Then there are many things he cannot do; for there are many kinds of offences. Eranistes: None of such things is either willed by God or possible for him. Orthodoxos: Nor indeed those things that are contrary to the divine nature. … Orthodoxos: For example, we have been taught that God is light, spiritual and true. … Orthodoxos: But we would not say that he either willed or was able to become darkness. … Orthodoxos: Again, the divine Scripture calls his nature invisible. … Orthodoxos: But we would not say that it could ever become visible. … Orthodoxos: For it is incomprehensible and altogether beyond reach. … Orthodoxos: Then neither would he who is become one who is not. … Orthodoxos: Nor would the Father [become] the Son. … Orthodoxos: Nor, then, would the unbegotten … Eranistes: How could it?
Job 10:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 42:2 (quotation, medium confidence) · Matt 19:26 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 John 1:5 (allusion, low confidence) · Col 1:15 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Orthodoxos argues that God can do whatever he wills but wills only what fits his nature, so there are things, like sinning or becoming darkness, that he cannot do.
- Lines and speaker replies have dropped out of the OCR where “…” is printed; the start of Orthodoxos’ answer to “all things are possible for God” is lost. The bracketed words are supplied for sense. Migne’s Latin column and marginal notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged correction). Job 10:13 in the LXX reads “Having these things in yourself, I know that you can do all things”; Theodoret’s text has “in myself”. Quotations: Job 10:9–13 (LXX), with Job 42:2. Allusions: Matt 19:26; 1 John 1:5; Col 1:15; 1 Tim 1:17.
Notes on the original text
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Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.3 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).