On Baptism, against the Donatists 6.56–7.2
Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 51 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, De baptismo (CSEL 51, 1908), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).
Chapter 6
6.56CSEL 51:327–328
Posset alius dicere: cum Christi baptismata duo esse non possint, qui iniquis baptismum concedit sibi tollit. sed nobiscum etiam isti resisterent et dicerent: concedimus iniquis baptismum, qui non ab ipsis in ipsis est sicut iniquitas, sed a Christo cuius est aequitas et cuius sacramentum etiam aput iniquos non est iniquum. quod ergo nobiscum de iniquis dicerent, hoc sibi de haereticis dicant. et ideo quod sequitur ita potius erat dicendum: censeo itaque flebiles et tabidos haereticos non baptizandos esse, cum ad ecclesiam uenire coeperint, si habent iam baptismum Christi, sed a sua peruersitate corrigendos! nam etiam de iniquis dici potest quorum portio sunt haeretici: censeo itaque flebiles et tabidos iniquos, si iam baptizati sunt, non baptizandos esse, cum ad ecclesiam, id est ad illam petram, extra quam sunt omnes qui audiunt uerba Christi et non faciunt, uenire coeperint, sed sacra et diuina lauatione iam lotos, tunc autem et lumine uitae inluminatos, non hostes sed pacificos — nam iniqui non habent pacem —, non alienos sed fidei domini domesticos — nam iniquis dictum est: quomodo conuersa es in amaritudinem uitis alienae? —, non adulteros sed dei filios — nam iniqui filii sunt diaboli —, non erroris sed salutis effectos — nam non saluat iniquitas — in ecclesiam recipi, id est in illam petram, in illam columbam, in illum hortum conclusum et fontem signatum qui non nisi in tritico, non autem in paleis agnoscitur, siue longe a uento separentur siue usque ad ultimam uentilationem frumento commixti uideantur. frustra ergo Cassius addidit: absque his qui in ecclesia fideles supplantati ad haeresis tenebras transierant. si enim et ipsi ab ecclesia recedendo baptismum amiserant, etiam ipsis reddatur; si autem non amiserant, quod per eos datum est agnoscatur.
Another might say: “Since there cannot be two baptisms of Christ, he who grants baptism to the wicked takes it away from himself.” But these men would resist this with us and say: “We grant baptism to the wicked, which is in them not from themselves, as iniquity is, but from Christ, whose is righteousness and whose sacrament is not wicked even among the wicked.” What, then, they would say with us about the wicked, let them say to themselves about heretics. And so what follows should rather have been said thus: “I judge, therefore, that wretched and wasting heretics are not to be baptized when they begin to come to the church, if they already have Christ’s baptism, but corrected from their perversity!” For it can also be said of the wicked, of whom heretics are a part: “I judge, therefore, that wretched and wasting wicked men, if they have already been baptized, are not to be baptized when they begin to come to the church,” that is, to that rock, outside which are all who hear Christ’s words and do not do them, “but, already washed with the sacred and divine washing, and now enlightened in the light of life, made not enemies but peaceable” (for the wicked have no peace), “not strangers but members of the household of the Lord’s faith” (for it was said to the wicked, “How have you turned into the bitterness of a strange vine?”), “not adulterers but sons of God” (for the wicked are sons of the devil), “not sons of error but of salvation” (for iniquity does not save), “to be received into the church,” that is, into that rock, into that dove, into that garden enclosed and fountain sealed, which is recognized only in the wheat, not in the chaff, whether the chaff is separated far off by the wind or seems mixed with the grain until the last winnowing. So Cassius added in vain, “except those who, having been faithful members of the church, were tripped up and had passed over to the darkness of heresy.” For if they too had lost baptism by withdrawing from the church, let it be given back to them as well; but if they had not lost it, let what was given through them be recognized.
Isa 57:21 (allusion, medium confidence) · Jer 2:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Song 6:9 (6:8 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Song 4:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 3:12 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Cassius’s words, adapted, apply to the wicked within, who are already baptized and need only correction; his exception for former members undercuts his case, for if they kept baptism, what they gave must be recognized.
- “How have you turned into the bitterness of a strange vine?” is Jer 2:21 in the Old Latin.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (full stop for a comma in the digital text; stray bracket in the digital text): (cum Christi → cum Christi; (concedimus → concedimus; petram. in illam columbam → petram, in illam columbam.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 22 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.56 (CSEL 51:327–328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-56). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.57CSEL 51:328
Alius Ianuarius a Uico Caesaris dixit: Si non obtemperat error ueritati, multo magis ueritas non consentit errori. et ideo nos ecclesiae adsistimus, in qua praesidemus, ut baptismum eius ipsi soli uindicantes eos quos ecclesia non baptizauit baptizemus.
Another Januarius, of Vicus Caesaris, said: “If error does not yield to truth, much more does truth not consent to error. And therefore we stand by the church over which we preside, so that, claiming its baptism for it alone, we baptize those whom the church has not baptized.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Januarius of Vicus Caesaris: claiming baptism for the church alone, we baptize those the church has not baptized.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 23, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter errors and broken word): baptizanit baptis emus → baptizauit baptizemus.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 23 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.57 (CSEL 51:328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-57). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.58CSEL 51:328
Respondetur: Quos ecclesia baptizat, utique petra illa baptizat, extra quam sunt omnes qui audiunt uerba Christi et non faciunt. baptizentur ergo quicumque a talibus baptizati sunt. quod si non fit, sicut in istis, ita in haereticis baptismus Christi eorum iniquitate et peruersitate damnata siue correcta agnoscendus et adprobandus est.
The answer is: those whom the church baptizes, that rock certainly baptizes, outside which are all who hear Christ’s words and do not do them. Let all, then, be baptized who were baptized by such men. But if this is not done, then, as in these, so in heretics Christ’s baptism must be recognized and approved, their wickedness and perversity being condemned or corrected.
Matt 7:26 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: If only the church, the rock, baptizes, those baptized by the wicked within, who are off the rock, would need rebaptism; since they do not, heretics’ baptism must be recognized too.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 23 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.58 (CSEL 51:328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-58). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.59CSEL 51:328
Alius Secundinus a Carpis dixit: Haeretici christiani sunt an non? si christiani sunt, cur in ecclesia dei non sunt? si Christiani non sunt, fiant. aut quo pertinebit sermo domini dicentis: qui non est mecum aduersum me est, et qui mecum non colligit spargit? unde constat super filios alienos et suboles antichristi spiritum sanctum per manus inpositionem tantummodo non posse descendere, cum manifestum sit haereticos baptisma non habere.
Another Secundinus, of Carpi, said: “Are heretics Christians or not? If they are Christians, why are they not in the church of God? If they are not Christians, let them become Christians. Or what does the Lord’s saying mean: ‘He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters’? Hence it is plain that upon strange sons and the offspring of antichrist the Holy Spirit cannot descend merely by the laying on of hands, since it is plain that heretics do not have baptism.”
Luke 11:23 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Secundinus of Carpi: heretics, not being in the church, must become Christians; the Spirit cannot come on them by laying on of hands alone.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 24, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (punctuation misplaced in the digital text): an non si. christiani → an non? si christiani.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 24 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.59 (CSEL 51:328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-59). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.60CSEL 51:328–330
Huic respondetur: Iniqui christiani sunt an non? si christiani sunt, cur in illa petra non sunt in qua aedificatur ecclesia? — audiunt enim uerba Christi et non faciunt —; si christiani non sunt, fiant. aut quo pertinebit sermo domini dicentis: qui non est mecum aduersum me est, et qui mecum non colligit spargit? spargunt enim oues eius qui eas ad morum suorum labem praua imitatione perducunt. unde constat super filios alienos, quod omnes iniqui appellantur, et suboles antichristi, quod sunt omnes qui Christo aduersantur, spiritum sanctum per manus inpositionem tantummodo non posse descendere, si cordis non adsit uera conuersio, cum manifestum sit iniquos quamdiu iniqui sunt baptisma quidem habere posse, sed salutem cuius sacramentum baptisma est habere non posse. uideamus enim si haeretici describuntur in psalmo illo, ubi de filiis alienis ita dicitur: domine, libera me de manu filiorum alienorum, quorum os locutum est uanitatem et dextera eorum dextera iniquitatis, quorum filii eorum uelut nouellae constabilitae. filiae eorum ornatae sicut similitudo templi; cellaria eorum plena, eructuantia ex hoc in hoc; oues eorum fecundae, multiplicantes in exitibus suis; boues eorum crassi. non est ruina maceriae nec exitus neque clamor in plateis eorum. beatum dixerunt populum cui haec sunt: beatus populus cuius est dominus deus ipsius. si ergo isti sunt filii alieni qui in rebus temporalibus et abundantia terrenae felicitatis beatitudinem ponunt et diuina praecepta contemnunt, uideamus si non idem ipsi sunt de quibus Cyprianus ita dicit, in se quoque transfigurans eos, ut de his se dicere ostendat cum quibus sacramenta communicabat: dum uiam domini, inquit, non tenemus nec data nobis ad salutem caelestia mandata seruamus. fecit dominus noster uoluntatem patris, et nos non facimus domini uoluntatem patrimonio et lucro studentes, superbiam sectantes et cetera. at si isti baptismum et habere et tradere poterant, cur negatur esse posse in filiis alienis? quos tamen hortatur, ut caelestia mandata seruando missa sibi per unicum filium fratres eius et filii dei esse mereantur.
To him the answer is: Are the wicked Christians or not? If they are Christians, why are they not on that rock on which the church is built? (For they hear Christ’s words and do not do them.) If they are not Christians, let them become Christians. Or what does the Lord’s saying mean: “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters”? For those scatter his sheep who lead them by depraved imitation to the ruin of their own morals. Hence it is plain that upon strange sons, as all the wicked are called, and the offspring of antichrist, as all are who oppose Christ, the Holy Spirit cannot descend merely by the laying on of hands, if true conversion of heart is not present; since it is plain that the wicked, as long as they are wicked, can indeed have baptism, but cannot have the salvation of which baptism is the sacrament. For let us see whether heretics are described in that psalm where it is said of strange sons: “Lord, deliver me from the hand of strange sons, whose mouth has spoken vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of iniquity; whose sons are like young plants, well established; their daughters adorned like the likeness of a temple; their storehouses full, overflowing from this to that; their sheep fruitful, multiplying in their goings out; their oxen fat. There is no breach in the wall, nor going out, nor outcry in their streets. They have called blessed the people that has these things: blessed is the people whose God is the Lord.” If then these are strange sons, who place blessedness in temporal things and the abundance of earthly happiness and despise the divine precepts, let us see whether they are not the very ones of whom Cyprian speaks thus, taking them on himself as well, to show that he is speaking of those with whom he shared the sacraments: “since we do not keep the way of the Lord,” he says, “nor observe the heavenly commands given us for salvation. Our Lord did the will of the Father, and we do not do the will of God, being eager for property and gain, pursuing pride,” and so on. But if these could have and hand on baptism, why is it denied that it can exist in strange sons? Yet he exhorts them, by keeping the heavenly commands sent to them through the only Son, to be worthy to be his brothers and sons of God.
Matt 7:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 11:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 144:11–15 (143:11-Ps LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Secundinus’s argument applies to the wicked within, “strange sons” in the sense of Ps 144, whom Cyprian describes in his own church; they have and give baptism, so it can exist in strange sons.
- The psalm is Ps 144:11–15 (LXX 143:11–15) in the Old Latin. The Cyprian quotation is Letter 11.1, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (dash joined to the word in the digital text; garbled characters in the digital text; word broken by spaces in the digital text; words run together in the digital text): faciunt-; → faciunt —;; cG,Duersio → conuersio; quorumos → quorum os; necexitus → nec exitus; plateiseorum → plateis eorum; superb i a m → superbiam.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 24 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation); Cyprian, Ep. 11.1 (Letters; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.60 (CSEL 51:328–330; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-60). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.61CSEL 51:330
Uictoricus a Tabraca dixit: Si licet haereticis baptizare et remissionem peccatorum dare, quid illos infamamus, ut haereticos illos appellemus?
Victoricus of Thabraca said: “If heretics may baptize and give remission of sins, why do we defame them and call them heretics?”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Victoricus of Thabraca: if heretics can baptize and forgive, why call them heretics?
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 25, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR error for remissionem): remissam → remissionem.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 25 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.61 (CSEL 51:330; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-61). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.62CSEL 51:330
Quid si alius diceret: si licet iniquis baptizare et remissionem peccatorum dare, quid illos infamamus, ut iniquos illos appellemus? quod huic responderetur de iniquis, hoc et illi respondeatur de haereticis, id est neque eorum esse baptismum quo baptizant et non esse consequens, ut quisquis habet baptismum Christi etiam de peccatorum remissione securus sit, si hoc in sacramento tantum habet nec ueraci cordis confessione conuersus est, ut dimittenti dimitteretur.
What if another said: “If the wicked may baptize and give remission of sins, why do we defame them and call them wicked?” What would be answered to him about the wicked, let that be answered to this man about heretics: namely, that the baptism with which they baptize is not theirs, and that it does not follow that whoever has Christ’s baptism is secure about the remission of sins too, if he has it only in the sacrament and has not been converted by true confession of heart, so that he might be forgiven by forgiving.
Matt 6:14 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victoricus’s question would apply to the wicked within too; the baptism is not theirs, and having the sacrament does not guarantee forgiveness without true conversion.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR error for remissionem): remissam → remissionem.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 25 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.62 (CSEL 51:330; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-62). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.63CSEL 51:330–331
Alius Felix ab Utina dixit: Nemini dubium est, sanctissimi consacerdotes, non in tantum posse humanam praesumptionem, quam domini nostri Christi adorandam et uenerabilem maiestatem. memores ergo periculi hoc quoque non tantum obseruare debemus, uerum etiam ab omnibus nobis confirmare, ut omnes haeretici qui ad sinum matris ecclesiae adcurrunt baptizentur, ut mens haeretica quae diuturna tabe polluta est sanctificatione lauacri purgata in melius reformetur.
Another Felix, of Uthina, said: “No one doubts, most holy fellow priests, that human presumption does not have as much power as the adorable and venerable majesty of our Lord Christ. Mindful, therefore, of the danger, we ought not only to observe this but also to confirm it by all of us: that all heretics who run to the bosom of mother church be baptized, so that the heretical mind, polluted by long corruption, may be cleansed by the sanctification of the washing and reshaped for the better.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Felix of Uthina: heretics coming to the church must be baptized, so that minds long corrupted may be cleansed.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 26, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error): obseruarc → obseruare.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 26 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.63 (CSEL 51:330–331; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-63). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.64CSEL 51:331
Fortassis iste, qui in diuturna tabe purganda causam posuit cur deberent haeretici baptizari, parceret eis qui in aliquam haeresem inruentes exiguo illic tempore fuissent et cito correcti ad catholicam inde migrassent. deinde et ipse parum aduertit ita dici posse, ut iniqui omnes, qui ad illam petram in qua ecclesia significatur adcurrunt, baptizentur, ut mens iniqua, quae extra petram in harena aedificabat audiendo uerba Christi et non faciendo, sanctificatione lauacri purgata in melius reformetur; et tamen non fit, si iam baptizati sunt, etiam si probentur tales fuisse cum baptizarentur, id est ut saeculo uerbis et non factis renuntiarent.
Perhaps this man, who gave the cleansing of long corruption as the reason why heretics should be baptized, would spare those who, falling into some heresy, had been there a short time and, quickly corrected, had moved from there to the Catholic Church. Then, too, he paid too little attention to the fact that it can equally be said that all the wicked who run to that rock by which the church is signified should be baptized, so that the wicked mind, which built outside the rock on sand by hearing Christ’s words and not doing them, may be cleansed by the sanctification of the washing and reshaped for the better; and yet this is not done, if they have already been baptized, even if it is proved that they were such when they were baptized, that is, that they renounced the world in words and not in deeds.
Matt 7:24–26 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Felix’s reason, long corruption, would not apply to short-term heretics and would equally require rebaptizing the wicked within, which is not done.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 26 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion); Cyprian, Ep. 11.1 (Letters; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.64 (CSEL 51:331; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-64). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.65CSEL 51:331
Quietus a Buruc dixit: Qui fide uiuimus obsequi his quae instruendis nobis ante praedicta sunt credula obseruatione debemus. nam scriptum est aput salomonem: qui baptizatur a mortuo quid proficit lauatio eius? quod utique de his qui ab haereticis tinguntur et de tinguentibus loquitur. si enim qui aput illos baptizantur per remissionem peccatorum uitam aeternam consequuntur, cur ad ecclesiam ueniunt? si uero a mortuo salutis nihil accipitur ac propterea cognito errore pristino ad ueritatem cum paenitentia reuertuntur, uno uitali baptismate quod in ecclesia catholica est sanctificari debebunt.
Quietus of Buruc said: “We who live by faith ought to obey with believing observance what was foretold for our instruction. For it is written in Solomon: ‘He who is baptized by a dead man, what does his washing profit him?’ This is certainly said of those who are dipped by heretics and of those who dip them. For if those who are baptized among them obtain eternal life through remission of sins, why do they come to the church? But if nothing of salvation is received from a dead man, and for that reason, having recognized their former error, they return to the truth with repentance, they must be sanctified by the one life-giving baptism which is in the catholic church.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Quietus of Buruc: Sirach’s “baptized by a dead man” refers to heretics, whose converts must receive the church’s life-giving baptism.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 27, following the site’s translation. The text attributed to Solomon is Sir 34:25 (Vulgate 34:30).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (garbled character in the digital text; garbled characters in the digital text; stray full stop in the digital text): (Quietus a Buruc (fi.rit: Qui: fide → Quietus a Buruc dixit: Qui fide; nam. scriptum → nam scriptum; bapti: atur → baptizatur.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 27 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation); Sir 34:25 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.65 (CSEL 51:331; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-65). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.66CSEL 51:331–332
Quid sit a mortuo baptizari sine praeiudicio diligentioris eiusdem scripturae considerationis alibi iam diximus. quaero autem cur haereticos solos uelint intellegi mortuos, cum Paulus apostolus generaliter de peccato dixerit: stipendium peccati mors, et iterum: sapere autem secundum carnem mors est. et cum mortuam dicat uiduam quae in deliciis uiuit, quomodo non sunt mortui qui saeculo uerbis et non factis renuntiant? quid ergo proficit lauatio eius qui ab istis baptizatur, nisi quia et ipse, si talis est, lauacrum quidem habet, sed non ei proficit ad salutem? si autem ille a quo baptizatur talis est, iste uero non falso ad deum corde conuertitur, non ab illo mortuo baptizatur, sed ab illo uiuo de quo dictum est: ipse est qui baptizat, quolibet corporaliter operante baptizet. quod autem ait de haereticis: si enim qui aput illos baptizantur per remissionem peccatorum uitam aeternam consequuntur, cur ad ecclesiam ueniunt?, respondetur: ideo ueniunt, quia, etiamsi Christi baptismum usque ad sacramenti celebrationem perceperunt, tamen uitam aeternam nisi per unitatis caritatem non consequuntur, sicut nec illi maliuoli et inuidi, quibus non dimitterentur peccata nec si aduersus eos odium tenerent a quibus paterentur iniuriam, quia ueritas dixit: si non dimiseritis, nec pater uester dimittet uobis; quanto magis cum eos oderant quibus retribuebant mala pro bonis! nec tamen isti saeculo uerbis solis et non factis renuntiantes, si postea corrigerentur, rursus baptizarentur, sed uno uitali baptismate sanctificarentur. quod quidem in catholica est, sed non in sola, sicut nec in sanctis solis qui aedificati sunt super petram et ex quibus unica illa columba perficitur.
What it is to be baptized by a dead man we have already said elsewhere, without prejudice to a more careful consideration of the same scripture. But I ask why they want heretics alone to be understood as dead, when the apostle Paul said generally of sin, “The wages of sin is death,” and again, “To be minded according to the flesh is death.” And since he calls the widow who lives in pleasures dead, how are those not dead who renounce the world in words and not in deeds? What then does the washing profit one who is baptized by these, except that he too, if he is such, has the washing indeed but it does not profit him for salvation? But if the one by whom he is baptized is such, and this man turns to God with an undeceitful heart, he is not baptized by that dead man but by that living one of whom it is said, “He it is who baptizes,” whoever acts bodily in baptizing. And to what he says of heretics, “For if those who are baptized among them obtain eternal life through remission of sins, why do they come to the church?”, the answer is: they come for this reason, that, even if they have received Christ’s baptism as far as the celebration of the sacrament, they still do not obtain eternal life except through the love of unity; just as neither did those malicious and envious men, whose sins would not be forgiven even if they held hatred against those from whom they suffered injury, since the truth said, “If you do not forgive, neither will your Father forgive you”; how much more when they hated those to whom they returned evil for good! Yet these, renouncing the world in words only and not in deeds, if they were afterward corrected, would not be baptized again, but would be sanctified by the one life-giving baptism. That baptism is indeed in the Catholic Church, but not in it alone, just as it is not in the saints alone, who are built on the rock and of whom that only dove is made up.
Rom 6:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 5:6 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 35:12 (34:12 LXX) (allusion, low confidence) · Song 6:9 (6:8 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 7:24 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: If baptism by a “dead man” means by sinners, it applies to all sinners within, yet Christ, the living one, baptizes; heretics come to the church for the eternal life given only through the love of unity, and the one life-giving baptism is in the Catholic Church but not only there.
- Augustine discusses Sir 34:25 elsewhere, probably in an earlier anti-Donatist work; the reference is uncertain.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error; garbled characters in the digital text; stray full stop in the digital text): peccautorum → peccatorum; consequuntur. cur ad ecclesiam aen;lfnt? → consequuntur, cur ad ecclesiam ueniunt?; aduersus eos. odium → aduersus eos odium; ex. quibus → ex quibus.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 27 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation); Sir 34:25 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion); Cyprian, Ep. 11.1 (Letters; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.66 (CSEL 51:331–332; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-66). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.67CSEL 51:332–333
Castus a Sicca dixit: Qui contempta ueritate praesumit consuetudinem sequi, aut circa fratres inuidus est et malignus quibus ueritas reuelatur aut circa deum ingratus est cuius inspiratione ecclesia eius instruitur.
Castus of Sicca said: “He who, despising the truth, presumes to follow custom is either envious and malicious toward the brothers to whom the truth is revealed, or ungrateful toward God, by whose inspiration his church is instructed.”
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Summary: The opinion of Castus of Sicca: to follow custom against revealed truth is envy toward the brothers or ingratitude toward God.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 28, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray full stop in the digital text): circa deum. ingratus → circa deum ingratus.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 28 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.67 (CSEL 51:332–333; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-67). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.68CSEL 51:333
Iste si conuinceret eos qui diuersa sentiebant et hoc tenebant, quod etiam postea totus orbis christiano concilio confirmatus optinuit, ita consuetudinem sequi ut contemnerent ueritatem, haec uerba formidare deberemus; cum uero illa consuetudo et a ueritate propagata et ueritate roborata repperiatur, nihil in hac sententia pertimescimus. et tamen si illi circa fratres inuidi erant et maligni aut circa deum ingrati, ecce qualibus communicabant, ecce quales diuersa sentientes, sicut Cyprianus praedixit, a iure communionis non amouebant, ecce a quibus non polluebantur in conseruatione unitatis, ecce quantum amandum sit uinculum pacis, ecce quid considerent qui nobis de praecessorum episcoporum concilio calumniantur, quorum caritatem non imitantur et quorum exemplo considerato iure damnantur. si consuetudo erat, sicut haec sententia testis est, ut haeretici uenientes ad ecclesiam cum baptismate quod habebant susciperentur, aut hoc recte fiebat aut mali bonos in unitate non maculant. si recte fiebat, cur orbem terrarum, quia sic recipiuntur, accusant? si autem mali bonos in unitate non maculant, quomodo se a crimine sacrilegae separationis excusant?
If he had proved that those who thought differently, and held what the whole world afterward, confirmed by a Christian council, established, followed custom in such a way as to despise the truth, we ought to dread these words; but since that custom is found to have been both propagated from the truth and strengthened by the truth, we fear nothing in this opinion. And yet, if those men were envious and malicious toward the brothers or ungrateful toward God, see with what sort of men they held communion; see what sort of men, thinking differently, they did not, as Cyprian had said beforehand, remove from the right of communion; see by whom they were not polluted in preserving unity; see how much the bond of peace is to be loved; see what those should consider who slander us about the council of earlier bishops, whose love they do not imitate and by whose example, considered, they are rightly condemned. If it was the custom, as this opinion bears witness, that heretics coming to the church were received with the baptism they had, either this was rightly done, or the wicked do not stain the good in unity. If it was rightly done, why do they accuse the whole world because people are received so? But if the wicked do not stain the good in unity, how do they excuse themselves from the crime of sacrilegious separation?
Eph 4:3 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Castus’s words confirm that receiving heretics without rebaptism was the custom; either it was right, or the wicked do not stain the good in unity, and either way the Donatists are condemned.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 28 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion); Cyprian, Sent. 0 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.68 (CSEL 51:333; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-68). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.69CSEL 51:333–334
Eucratius a Thenis dixit: Fidem nostram et baptismatis gratiam et legis ecclesiasticae regulam deus et dominus noster Iesus Christus suo ore apostolos docens perimpleuit dicens: ite, docete gentes, baptizantes eos in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti. falsum ergo haereticorum baptisma et iniquum a nobis pellendum est et omni contestatione refutandum, de quorum ore uirus, non uita, nec gratia caelestis, sed blasphemia trinitatis exprimitur. et ideo uenientes ad ecclesiam haereticos integro et catholico baptismate baptizari debere manifestum est, ut a blasphemia suae praesumptionis purificati possint spiritus sancti gloria reformari.
Eucratius of Thenae said: “Our Lord and God Jesus Christ, teaching the apostles with his own mouth, fully set out our faith and the grace of baptism and the rule of the church’s law, saying: ‘Go, teach the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.’ So the false and wicked baptism of heretics must be driven off by us and refuted with every protest, from whose mouth comes poison, not life, not heavenly grace but blasphemy of the Trinity. And therefore it is plain that heretics coming to the church must be baptized with whole and catholic baptism, so that, purified from their blasphemous presumption, they may be reshaped by the glory of the Holy Spirit.”
Matt 28:19 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The opinion of Eucratius of Thenae: heretics’ baptism, blaspheming the Trinity, must be refuted, and they must be baptized in the church.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 29, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (garbled characters in the digital text): in uominc patri,..; et f ilii → in nomine patris et filii; J efufrnzdum → refutandum.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 29 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Topics: Baptism, Heresy, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.69 (CSEL 51:333–334; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-69). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.70CSEL 51:334
Plane si non est baptismus patris et filii et spiritus sancti nomine consecratus, haereticorum deputetur et iniquum a nobis omni contestatione refutetur; si autem hoc in eo nomen agnoscimus, melius uerba euangelica ab haereticorum errore distinguimus et quod in eis probum est adprobamus, quod mendosum est emendamus.
Plainly, if it is not baptism consecrated in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, let it be counted the heretics’ and refuted by us with every protest as wicked; but if we recognize this name in it, we do better to distinguish the words of the gospel from the error of heretics, and to approve what is sound in them and correct what is faulty.
Matt 28:19 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Baptism without the Trinitarian name is to be rejected; where the name is present, the gospel words are to be distinguished from heretical error and approved.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 29 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Topics: Baptism, Heresy, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.70 (CSEL 51:334; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-70). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.71CSEL 51:334
Libosus a Uaga dixit: In euangelio dominus ego sum, inquit, ueritas. non dixit: ego sum consuetudo. itaque ueritate manifestata cedat consuetudo ueritati, ut etsi in praeteritum quis in ecclesia haereticos non baptizabat, nunc baptizare incipiat.
Libosus of Vaga said: “In the Gospel the Lord says: ‘I am the truth.’ He did not say: I am custom. And so, now that the truth has been made plain, let custom yield to truth, so that even if in the past someone did not baptize heretics in the church, he may now begin to baptize them.”
John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Libosus of Vaga: Christ is truth, not custom, so the custom of not baptizing heretics must yield.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 30, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter errors (x for z, c for e); stray bracket and missing full stop in the digital text): (ego sum consuetudo itaque → ego sum consuetudo. itaque; baptixabat, nunc baptixarc → baptizabat, nunc baptizare.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 30 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.71 (CSEL 51:334; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-71). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.72CSEL 51:334–335
Hic nihil ostendere conatus est quomodo sit ueritas, cui debere dicit consuetudinem cedere. plus tamen nos adiuuat aduersus istos qui se ab unitate diuiserunt, quod illam fuisse consuetudinem confitetur, quam quod eam ueritati quam non ostendit cedere oportere arbitratur. illa est enim consuetudo, quae si sacrilegos ad altare Christi sine baptismi purgatione admittebat et nullum bonorum in unitate polluebat, quicumque se ab eadem unitate, in qua nullorum malorum contagione pollui poterant, frustra separauerunt, manifestum sacrilegium schismatis admiserunt. si autem per illam consuetudinem omnes polluti perierunt, de qua cauerna isti sine originali ueritate et cum calumniae calliditate procedunt? si uero recta fuerat consuetudo qua sic suscipiebantur haeretici, relinquant furorem, fateantur errorem, ueniant ad catholicam, non ut retinguantur sacramento baptismatis, sed ut curentur a plaga concisionis.
Here he did not try to show at all how it is the truth, to which he says custom must yield. Yet he helps us more against those who have divided themselves from unity by admitting that that was the custom than by judging that it ought to yield to a truth he does not show. For that is the custom which, if it admitted the sacrilegious to Christ’s altar without the cleansing of baptism and polluted none of the good in unity, then whoever separated themselves in vain from that same unity, in which they could be polluted by the contagion of no wicked men, committed the manifest sacrilege of schism. But if all perished, polluted through that custom, from what cave do these men come out, without original truth and with the craftiness of slander? But if the custom by which heretics were received thus was right, let them give up their madness, confess their error, and come to the Catholic Church, not to be dipped again in the sacrament of baptism, but to be healed of the wound of their severance.
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Summary: Libosus admits that the custom was not to rebaptize; whether that custom was right or wrong, the Donatists’ separation is unjustified, and they should come to be healed of schism, not rebaptized.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 30 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.72 (CSEL 51:334–335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-72). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.73CSEL 51:335
Leucius a Theueste dixit: Haereticos blasphemos adque iniquos uerbis uariis decerpentes sancta et adorabilia scripturarum uerba execrandos censeo et ideo exorcizandos et baptizandos.
Leucius of Theveste said: “I judge that heretics, blasphemous and wicked, who with various words pluck apart the holy and adorable words of the Scriptures, are to be abhorred, and therefore are to be exorcized and baptized.”
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Summary: The opinion of Leucius of Theveste: heretics who tear apart Scripture are to be abhorred, exorcized, and baptized.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 31, following the site’s translation (Augustine’s text reads “various words”).
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 31 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.73 (CSEL 51:335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-73). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.74CSEL 51:335
Et ego execrandos censeo, sed non ideo exorcizandos et baptizandos. ipsorum est enim figmentum quod execror, Christi autem sacramentum quod ueneror.
I too judge that they are to be abhorred, but not therefore to be exorcized and baptized. For what I abhor is their own invention, but what I revere is Christ’s sacrament.
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine agrees heretics are to be abhorred, but not rebaptized: their invention is abhorred, Christ’s sacrament revered.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 31 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.74 (CSEL 51:335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-74). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.75CSEL 51:335
Eugenius ab Ammedera dixit: Et ego hoc idem censeo haereticos baptizandos esse.
Eugenius of Ammaedara said: “I too judge this same thing, that heretics are to be baptized.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Eugenius of Ammaedara: heretics are to be baptized.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 32, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 32 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.75 (CSEL 51:335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-75). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.76CSEL 51:335
Huic respondetur: Sed non hoc censet ecclesia cui deus iam etiam plenario concilio reuelauit, quod tunc adhuc aliter quidam sapiebatis et, quia in uobis caritas salua erat, in unitate permanebatis.
To him the answer is: but the church does not judge this, to which God has now revealed, even by a plenary council, what some of you then still thought otherwise; and since love was kept intact in you, you remained in unity.
Phil 3:15 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The church, through a plenary council, has since judged otherwise, and those who then differed remained in unity through love.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 32 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.76 (CSEL 51:335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-76). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.77CSEL 51:335–336
Item alius Felix a Bamaccura dixit: Et ipse secutus diuinarum scripturarum auctoritatem baptizandos haereticos esse censeo, sed et eos qui aput schismaticos baptizatos esse contendunt. si enim secundum cautum Christi priuatus fons noster est, intellegant cuncti ecclesiae nostrae aduersarii quia alienus esse non potest. nec duobus populis salutarem aquam tribuere potest ille qui unius gregis pastor est. et ideo manifestum est nec haereticos nec schismaticos aliquid caeleste suscipere, qui a peccantibus hominibus et ab ecclesia extraneis audent accipere. quando danti locus non est, utique nec accipienti prodest.
Likewise another Felix, of Bamaccora, said: “I too, following the authority of the divine Scriptures, judge that heretics are to be baptized, and also those who claim that they were baptized by schismatics. For if, according to Christ’s provision, our fountain is private, let all the adversaries of our church understand that it cannot belong to another. Nor can he who is the shepherd of one flock give saving water to two peoples. And therefore it is plain that neither heretics nor schismatics receive anything heavenly, since they dare to receive it from sinful men who are strangers to the church. When there is no room for the giver, it certainly profits not the receiver either.”
John 10:16 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The opinion of Felix of Bamaccora: the church’s fountain is private, and neither heretics nor schismatics can receive anything heavenly from those outside.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 33, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error (x for z)): baptixatos → baptizatos.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 33 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.77 (CSEL 51:335–336; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-77). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
6.78CSEL 51:336–337
Huic respondetur scripturas diuinas nusquam praecepisse, ut haeretici aput haereticos baptizati denuo baptizentur, sed multis locis ostendisse alienos esse ab ecclesia omnes qui non sunt in petra nec ad columbae illius membra pertinent, et tamen baptizare et baptizari et habere sine salute sacramentum salutis. fons autem noster, qui similis est fonti paradisi, quod etiam sicut ille extra paradisum profluat iam satis dictum est, et quod duobus populis, id est suo et extraneo, salutarem aquam tribuere non potest ille qui unius gregis pastor est. concedo adque consentio. sed numquid, quia salutaris non est extraneis, ideo ipsa non est? aqua enim diluuii constitutis intra arcam salutaris fuit, extra arcam uero mortifera fuit; eadem tamen fuit. et multi extranei id est inuidi, quos ex parte diaboli esse Cyprianus dicit et de scripturis ostendit, uelut intus uidentur, et tamen nisi essent extra arcam non morerentur per aquam. tales enim baptismus cum eo male utuntur necat, sicut illis de quibus dicit apostolus bonus odor Christi erat in mortem. cur ergo non suscipiunt aliquid caeleste uel schismatici uel haeretici, sicut spinae seu zizania pluuiam, sicut ipsi qui extra arcam fuerunt aquam de cataractis caeli uenientem susceperunt quidem, sed ad perniciem, non ad salutem? ideoque illud, quod in ultimo posuit: quando danti locus non est, utique nec accipienti prodest, non laboro refellere, quia et nos dicimus accipientibus non prodesse, cum in haeresi accipiunt consentientes haereticis. et ideo ueniunt ad catholicam pacem adque ueritatem, non ut baptismum accipiant, sed ut eis prodesse incipiat quod acceperant.
To him the answer is that the divine Scriptures nowhere command that heretics baptized among heretics be baptized again, but show in many places that all who are not on the rock and do not belong to the members of that dove are strangers to the church, and yet they baptize and are baptized and have the sacrament of salvation without salvation. As for our fountain, which is like the fountain of paradise, enough has already been said about its flowing, like that one, outside paradise too; and that he who is the shepherd of one flock cannot give saving water to two peoples, that is, his own and a strange one, I grant and agree. But because it is not saving for strangers, is it therefore not itself? For the water of the flood was saving for those placed within the ark, but deadly outside the ark; yet it was the same. And many strangers, that is, the envious, whom Cyprian says are on the devil’s side and shows from the Scriptures, seem to be within, and yet if they were not outside the ark they would not die through the water. For baptism kills such men when they use it badly, just as to those of whom the apostle speaks the good fragrance of Christ was unto death. Why then do neither schismatics nor heretics receive anything heavenly, as thorns or tares receive the rain, as those who were outside the ark did receive the water coming from the windows of heaven, but to their ruin, not their salvation? And so what he put last, “When there is no room for the giver, it certainly profits not the receiver either,” I do not labour to refute, since we too say that it does not profit those who receive it, when they receive it in heresy, consenting to the heretics. And so they come to Catholic peace and truth, not to receive baptism, but so that what they had received may begin to profit them.
Gen 2:10–14 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 7:11 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Pet 3:20 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 2:15–16 (allusion, high confidence) · Song 6:9 (6:8 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Like the water of paradise and of the flood, the church’s baptism is the same everywhere, saving within the ark and deadly outside; heretics receive it but to their ruin, and come to the church for it to profit them.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error): fdnti → fonti.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 33 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation); Cyprian, Zel. liv. 4 (On Jealousy and Envy; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.78 (CSEL 51:336–337; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-78). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.79CSEL 51:337
Item alius Ianuarius Muxulensis dixit: Miror quod, cum omnes confiteantur unum esse baptismum, non omnes intellegant eiusdem baptismi unitatem. ecclesia enim et haeresis duae et diuersae res sunt. si haeretici habent baptisma, nos non habemus; si autem nos habemus, haeretici habere non possunt. dubium autem non est ecclesiam solam baptismum Christi possidere quae sola possideat et gratiam Christi et ueritatem.
Likewise another Januarius, of Muzula, said: “I am surprised that, though all confess that baptism is one, not all understand the unity of that same baptism. For the church and heresy are two different things. If heretics have baptism, we do not; but if we have it, heretics cannot have it. And there is no doubt that the church alone possesses the baptism of Christ, since it alone possesses both the grace and the truth of Christ.”
John 1:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Januarius of Muzula: since church and heresy are different, both cannot have the one baptism.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 34, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 34 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.79 (CSEL 51:337; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-79). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.80CSEL 51:337
Posset alius similiter dicere et similiter non uerum dicere: miror quod, cum omnes confiteantur unum esse baptismum, non omnes intellegant eiusdem baptismi unitatem. iustitia enim et iniquitas duae et diuersae res sunt. si iniqui habent baptisma, iusti non habent; si autem iusti habent, iniqui habere non possunt. dubium autem non est iustos solos baptismum Christi possidere qui soli possideant et gratiam Christi et ueritatem. hoc certe falsum est illis quoque fatentibus. et illi quippe inuidi qui sunt ex parte diaboli et intus positi, sicut dicit Cyprianus, adque apostolo Paulo notissimi baptismum habebant nec ad membra illius columbae quae in petra tuta est pertinebant.
Another could say likewise, and likewise say what is not true: “I am surprised that, though all confess that baptism is one, not all understand the unity of that same baptism. For righteousness and iniquity are two different things. If the wicked have baptism, the righteous do not; but if the righteous have it, the wicked cannot have it. And there is no doubt that the righteous alone possess the baptism of Christ, since they alone possess both the grace and the truth of Christ.” This is certainly false, as they too admit. For those envious men, who are on the devil’s side and were placed within, as Cyprian says, and well known to the apostle Paul, had baptism and did not belong to the members of that dove which is safe on the rock.
Phil 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Song 2:14 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Januarius’s argument, applied to righteous and wicked, is plainly false, for the envious within had baptism; so it is false of church and heresy too.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked line number in the digital text; stray backslashes for a full stop in the digital text): iniqui 20 habent → iniqui habent; ueritatem\\ hoc → ueritatem. hoc; positi, 25 sicut → positi, sicut.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 34 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.80 (CSEL 51:337; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-80). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.81CSEL 51:337–338
Adelfius a Tasualte dixit: Sine causa quidam falso et inuidioso uerbo inpugnant ueritatem ut rebaptizare nos dicant, quando ecclesia haereticos non rebaptizet, sed baptizet.
Adelphius of Thasvalte said: “Without cause do some attack the truth with a false and spiteful word, saying that we rebaptize, since the church does not rebaptize heretics but baptizes them.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Adelphius of Thasvalte: the church does not rebaptize heretics but baptizes them.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 35, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 35 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.81 (CSEL 51:337–338; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-81). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.82CSEL 51:338
Immo uero modo non rebaptizat, quia nisi eos qui baptizati non sunt non baptizat; quam consuetudinem anteriorem perspecta diligentius ueritas etiam concilio posteriore firmauit.
On the contrary, it is now that the church does not rebaptize, because it baptizes only those who have not been baptized; and that earlier custom the truth, more carefully examined, has confirmed by a later council as well.
Notes and citation
Summary: It is the present church that truly does not rebaptize, since it baptizes only the unbaptized, as the later council confirmed.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 35 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.82 (CSEL 51:338; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-82). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.83CSEL 51:338
Demetrius a Leptiminus dixit: Unum baptisma nos custodimus, qui ecclesiae catholicae soli rem suam uindicamus. qui autem dicunt quia haeretici uere et legitime baptizant, ipsi sunt qui non dico sed multa baptismata faciunt. nam cum haereses multae sint, pro earum numero et baptismata conputabuntur.
Demetrius of Leptis Minor said: “We keep one baptism, because we claim for the catholic church alone what is its own. But those who say that heretics baptize truly and lawfully are the ones who make not two but many baptisms. For since heresies are many, baptisms too would be counted according to their number.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Demetrius of Leptis Minor: accepting heretical baptism multiplies baptisms by the number of heresies.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 36, following the site’s translation; the digital text of Augustine reads “not, I say, but many,” with the word for “two” apparently lost.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 36 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.83 (CSEL 51:338; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-83). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.84CSEL 51:338
Huic respondetur: Si ita est, tot ergo numerentur baptismata quot sunt opera carnis de quibus ait apostolus: quoniam qui talia agunt regnum dei non possidebunt; inter quae numerantur et haereses. et tam multa ipsorum operum intus tamquam in palea tolerantur, et tamen unum baptisma omnibus est quod nullo iniquitatis opere uiolatur.
To him the answer is: if so, then let as many baptisms be counted as there are works of the flesh, of which the apostle says, “that those who do such things will not possess the kingdom of God”; among which heresies too are counted. And so many of those works are tolerated within, as in the chaff, and yet there is one baptism for all, which is violated by no work of iniquity.
Gal 5:19–21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:12 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: If baptisms multiplied by heresies, they would multiply by every work of the flesh tolerated within the church; yet baptism is one.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 36 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.84 (CSEL 51:338; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-84). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.85CSEL 51:338–339
Uincentius a Tibari dixit: Haereticos scimus illos esse peiores quam ethnicos. si conuersi ad deum uenire uoluerint, habent utique regulam ueritatis, quam dominus praecepto diuino mandauit apostolis dicens: ite, in nomine meo manum inponite, daemonia expellite, et alio loco: ite et docete gentes, tinguentes eas in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti. ergo primo per manus inpositionem in exorcismo, secundo per baptismi regenerationem, tunc possunt ad Christi pollicitationem uenire; alias autem fieri non debere.
Vincentius of Thibaris said: “We know that heretics are worse than heathens. If, converted, they wish to come to God, they certainly have the rule of truth which the Lord commanded the apostles by divine precept, saying: ‘Go, lay on hands in my name, cast out demons.’ And in another place: ‘Go and teach the nations, dipping them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.’ So first through the laying on of hands in exorcism, secondly through the regeneration of baptism, they can then come to the promise of Christ; otherwise it ought not to be done.”
Mark 16:17–18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 28:19 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Vincentius of Thibaris: heretics, worse than heathens, must be exorcized and then baptized.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 37, following the site’s translation. The first saying is not found in this form in the Gospels (compare Mark 16:17–18).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (word broken by a space in the digital text): inpo nite → inponite.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 37 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.85 (CSEL 51:338–339; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-85). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.86CSEL 51:339–340
Ex qua regula dicat haereticos peiores esse quam ethnicos nescio, cum dominus dicat: si neque ecclesiam audierit, sit tibi tamquam ethnicus et publicanus. an etiam tali haereticus peior est? nihil resisto. non tamen propterea, quia ipse homo peior est ethnico, id est gentili adque pagano, sacramentum etiam Christi, si quod habet, uitiis eius moribusque miscetur et eadem permixtione corruptum perit. nam illi qui recedunt de ecclesia et fiunt haeresum non tantum sectatores sed etiam conditores, si iam baptizati recedunt, cum secundum istam regulam peiores sint ethnicis, habent tamen baptisma; nam si correcti redeant, non accipiunt quod, si amisissent, utique acciperent. potest ergo fieri ut aliquis peior sit ethnico et tamen in eo Christi sacramentum non solum sit, sed etiam non sit peius quam in homine sancto et iusto. etsi enim, quantum in illo homine est, non eum seruauit sed animo et uoluntate uiolauit, tamen, quantum ad ipsum adtinet sacramentum, et cum contemptore et repudiatore suo integrum inuiolatumque permansit. nonne Sodomitae ethnici erant, id est gentiles? peiores ergo erant Iudaei quibus dominus dicit: tolerabilius erit Sodomis in die iudicii quam uobis et quibus propheta dicit: iustificastis Sodomam, id est in conparatione uestra Sodoma iusta facta est. numquid tamen ideo sacramenta diuina, quae aput Iudaeos erant, talia erant quales ipsi erant, quae dominus quoque ipse suscepit et ad ea celebranda leprosos quos mundauerat misit et ea Zacchariae ministranti angelus adstitit eumque in templo sacrificantem exauditum esse nuntiauit? haec eadem sacramenta et in bonis hominibus illius temporis erant et in malis peioribus quam sunt ethnici, quandoquidem in malitia Sodomitis praelati sunt, et tamen illa sacramenta erant in utrisque integra adque diuina.
By what rule he says that heretics are worse than heathens I do not know, since the Lord says, “If he does not listen even to the church, let him be to you as a heathen and a tax collector.” Or is the heretic worse even than such a man? I do not resist. Yet it does not follow that, because the man himself is worse than a heathen, that is, a Gentile and pagan, Christ’s sacrament too, if he has it, is mixed with his vices and morals and perishes, corrupted by that mixture. For those who leave the church and become not only followers but even founders of heresies, if they leave already baptized, though by this rule they are worse than heathens, still have baptism; for if they return corrected, they do not receive what, if they had lost it, they would certainly receive. So it can happen that someone is worse than a heathen, and yet Christ’s sacrament not only is in him, but is no worse in him than in a holy and righteous man. For although, as far as the man is concerned, he did not keep it but violated it in mind and will, yet as far as the sacrament itself is concerned, it remained entire and inviolate even with the one who despised and rejected it. Were not the Sodomites heathens, that is, Gentiles? So the Jews were worse, to whom the Lord says, “It will be more tolerable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you,” and to whom the prophet says, “You have justified Sodom,” that is, in comparison with you Sodom has been made righteous. Were the divine sacraments among the Jews therefore such as they themselves were, sacraments which the Lord himself too received, and to the celebration of which he sent the lepers he had cleansed, and at which the angel stood by Zechariah as he ministered and announced that he had been heard as he sacrificed in the temple? These same sacraments were both in the good men of that time and in the wicked, worse than heathens, since they were ranked above the Sodomites in wickedness; and yet those sacraments were entire and divine in both.
Matt 18:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 10:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ezek 16:51–52 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 17:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:8–13 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Even if heretics are worse than heathens, their sacrament is not corrupted, as the sacraments of the Jews, whom Scripture calls worse than Sodom, remained divine and were used by Christ and Zechariah.
- “You have justified Sodom” combines Ezek 16:51–52 and Jer 3:11 in Augustine’s Latin.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error; stray bracket in the digital text): Sodoipam → Sodomam; (in conparatione → in conparatione.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 37 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.86 (CSEL 51:339–340; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-86). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.87CSEL 51:340–341
Nam et ipsi gentiles si quid diuinum et rectum in doctrinis suis habere potuerunt, non inprobauerunt sancti nostri, quamuis illi per suas superstitiones et idolatriam et superbiam ceterosque perditos mores detestandi essent et, nisi corrigerentur, diuino iudicio puniendi. nam et Paulus apostolus aput Athenienses, cum de deo quaedam diceret, perhibuit testimonium, quod quidam eorum tale aliquid dixerint, quod utique, si ad Christum uenirent, agnosceretur in eis, non inprobaretur, et sanctus Cyprianus talibus aduersus eosdem ethnicos utitur testibus. nam cum de magis loqueretur, quorum tamen, inquit, praecipuus Ostanes et formam ueri dei negat conspici posse et angelos ueros sedi eius dicit adsistere. in quod et Plato pari ratione consentit et unum deum seruans ceteros angelos uel daemonas dicit. Hermes quoque Trimegistus unum deum loquitur et eum inconprehensibilem adque inaestimabilem confitetur. si ergo isti uenissent ad percipiendam christianam salutem, non eis utique diceretur: hoc malum habetis uel falsum habetis, sed plane merito diceretur: hoc uobis quamuis integrum et uerum nihil tamen prodesset, nisi ad Christi gratiam ueniretis. si ergo in ipsis ethnicis potest aliquid diuinum inueniri recteque adprobari, quamuis eis salus adhuc a Christo praestanda sit, non oportet nos ita moueri, etiamsi peiores sint haeretici, ut quod in eis malum ipsorum est uelimus corrigere et quod in eis bonum Christi est nolimus agnoscere. sed iam ceteras huius concilii sententias pertractandas ab alio suscipiemus exordio.
For even with the Gentiles themselves, if they could have anything divine and right in their teachings, our saints did not reject it, though because of their superstitions, idolatry, pride, and other lost morals they were to be detested and, unless they were corrected, punished by divine judgment. For the apostle Paul too, speaking of God among the Athenians, cited the testimony that some of them had said something of the kind; which, if they came to Christ, would certainly be recognized in them, not rejected. And holy Cyprian uses such witnesses against these same heathens. For speaking of the magi he says: “Yet the chief of these, Ostanes, both denies that the form of the true God can be seen and says that true angels stand beside his throne. In this Plato also agrees by the same reasoning, and, keeping one God, calls the others angels or demons. Hermes Trismegistus too speaks of one God and confesses him incomprehensible and beyond estimation.” If, then, these men had come to receive Christian salvation, they would certainly not have been told, “You have this evil,” or “You have this falsely,” but it would rightly have been said: “This, though entire and true, would profit you nothing unless you came to the grace of Christ.” If, then, something divine can be found even in the heathens themselves and rightly approved, though salvation must still be given them by Christ, we ought not be so moved, even if heretics are worse, as to wish to correct what is their own evil in them and refuse to recognize what is Christ’s good in them. But we will undertake the treatment of the remaining opinions of this council from another beginning.
Acts 17:22–28 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The saints, including Paul at Athens and Cyprian citing Ostanes, Plato, and Hermes, approved what was true even among pagans; so what is Christ’s among heretics should be recognized while their errors are corrected.
- The quotation is Cyprian, That Idols Are Not Gods 6, following the site’s translation. Paul at Athens: Acts 17:28 (quoting Aratus).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray bracket in the digital text; stray full stop in the digital text): apostolus. aput → apostolus aput; <hoc malum → hoc malum.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Idol. 6 (That Idols Are Not Gods; quotation); Plato (Plato (works); allusion); Corp. herm. (Hermetic writings; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 6.87 (CSEL 51:340–341; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/6-87). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 7
7.1CSEL 51:341–343
Non simus molesti legentibus, si eadem uarie ac saepe disserimus. quamquam enim ecclesia sancta catholica in omnibus gentibus aduersus ea, quae in ista quaestione de baptismo, utrum et aput haereticos uel schismaticos idem possit esse qui est in catholica, nonnullam caliginem offundunt, priscae consuetudinis et concilii plenarii auctoritate munita sit, tamen, quia non contemnendis uiris et maxime Cypriano in ipsa unitate aliquando aliter uisum est, eius uti aduersum nos auctoritate conantur qui longe ab eius caritate remoti sunt. propterea cogimur ex opportunitate tractandi et considerandi omnia, quae in eius concilio de hac re litterisque conperimus, hanc eandem quaestionem aliquanto diutius tamquam in manibus uersare et ostendere, quam uerius uniuersitati ecclesiae catholicae placuerit, ut haeretici uel schismatici, qui iam Christi baptismum illic unde ueniunt acceperunt, in catholicam communionem cum illo admittantur ab errore suo correcti, in caritate radicati adque fundati, ut, quod adtinet ad baptismi sacramentum, non adsit quod deerat, sed prosit quod inerat. et beatus quidem Cyprianus, iam corpore quod corrumpitur non adgrauante animam nec deprimente terrena inhabitatione sensum multa cogitantem, serenius perspicit ueritatem, quam meruit adipisci per caritatem. adiuuet itaque nos orationibus suis in istius carnis mortalitate tamquam in caliginosa nube laborantes, ut donante domino bona eius quantum possumus imitemur. si quid autem aliter sensit et quibusdam fratribus collegisque persuasit, quod nunc eo quem dilexit reuelante iam cernit, nos longe inpares meritis suis ecclesiae tamen catholicae auctoritatem, cuius ipse egregium et carissimum membrum est, pro nostra infirmitate sectantes aduersus haereticos uel schismaticos enodemus, quos praecisos ab unitate quam tenuit et arescentes a caritate qua uiguit et elapsos ab humilitate qua stetit tanto amplius inprobat adque condemnat, quanto magis eos nouit ad insidiandum perscrutari uelle quod scripsit et ad pacificandum imitari nolle quod fecit; sicut illi, qui se christianos Nazarenos uocant et more Iudaico carnalia praeputia circumcidunt, nati haeretici ex illo errore, in quem Petrus deuians a Paulo reuocatus est, in hoc adhuc usque persistunt. sicut ergo illi Petro in primatu apostolorum martyrii gloria coronato in sua peruersitate praecisi ab ecclesia remanserunt, sic isti Cypriano per abundantiam caritatis in sortem sanctorum passionis claritate suscepto se ipsos exsules unitatis agnoscunt et contra unitatis patriam pro suis calumniis ciuem unitatis obponunt. iam itaque ceteras illius concilii sententias eadem ratione uideamus.
Let us not be tiresome to our readers if we discuss the same things in various ways and often. For although the holy Catholic Church in all nations is fortified by the authority of ancient custom and of a plenary council against the things that cast some darkness on this question of baptism, whether the same baptism that is in the Catholic Church can exist among heretics or schismatics too, yet, since men not to be despised, and above all Cyprian, once thought otherwise within unity itself, those who are far removed from his love try to use his authority against us. Therefore we are compelled, by the opportunity of treating and considering everything we have found on this matter in his council and letters, to turn this same question over somewhat longer, as if in our hands, and to show how much more truly it has pleased the universality of the Catholic Church that heretics or schismatics who have already received Christ’s baptism where they come from should be admitted with it into Catholic communion, corrected from their error and rooted and grounded in love; so that, as concerns the sacrament of baptism, it is not that what was lacking is supplied, but that what was present profits. And blessed Cyprian, indeed, now that the body which is corrupted no longer weighs down his soul, nor the earthly dwelling presses down the mind that muses on many things, sees the truth more serenely, which he was counted worthy to attain through love. So let him help us by his prayers, as we labour in the mortality of this flesh as in a dark cloud, so that by the Lord’s gift we may imitate his good things as far as we can. But if he thought something otherwise and persuaded some brothers and colleagues of it, which he now sees by the revelation of him whom he loved, let us, far unequal to his merits, yet following, in our weakness, the authority of the Catholic Church, of which he is an outstanding and most dear member, untie the knots against heretics or schismatics. These, cut off from the unity he held, withering from the love in which he flourished, slipped from the humility in which he stood, he disapproves and condemns all the more, the more he knows that they wish to scrutinize what he wrote in order to lay traps, and refuse to imitate what he did in order to make peace; like those who call themselves Christian Nazarenes and circumcise carnal foreskins after the Jewish manner, heretics born from that error from which Peter, straying, was called back by Paul, and who persist in it to this day. So just as they remained cut off from the church in their perversity, while Peter was crowned with the glory of martyrdom in the primacy of the apostles, so these, while Cyprian, through the abundance of his love, has been taken up into the lot of the saints by the glory of his passion, recognize themselves as exiles from unity, and set up against the homeland of unity, for the sake of their slanders, a citizen of unity. So now let us look at the remaining opinions of that council in the same way.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Eph 3:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 2:11–14 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine resumes the review of the council’s opinions, asking Cyprian’s prayers and comparing the Donatists, who use his authority against unity, with the Nazarenes, who perpetuate the error from which Paul recalled Peter.
- “The body which is corrupted weighs down the soul, and the earthly dwelling presses down the mind that muses on many things” is Wis 9:15.
- The Nazarenes were a Jewish-Christian group who kept circumcision and the law.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray full stop in the digital text): quae. in eius → quae in eius.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 9:15 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Cyprian, Sent. (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); allusion)
Topics: Baptism, Heresy, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 7.1 (CSEL 51:341–343; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/7-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/7-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
7.2CSEL 51:343
Marcus a Mactari dixit: Mirandum non est, si haeretici hostes adque inpugnatores ueritatis rem sibi uindicant potestatis et dignationis alienae. illud mirandum est quod quidam nostri praeuaricatores ueritatis haereticis suffragantur et christianis aduersantur. propterea decreuimus haereticos baptizandos esse.
Marcus of Mactaris said: “It is not surprising if heretics, the enemies and assailants of the truth, claim for themselves something belonging to another’s power and favour. What is surprising is that some of our own, betrayers of the truth, support heretics and oppose Christians. Therefore we have decreed that heretics are to be baptized.”
Notes and citation
Summary: The opinion of Marcus of Mactaris: it is surprising that some of the bishops’ own colleagues betray the truth by supporting heretics.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 38, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (word broken by a space in the digital text): praeuarica tores → praeuaricatores; christian is → christianis.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 38 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 7.2 (CSEL 51:343; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/7-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/7-2
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).