On the Governance of God 1.37–1.60
Latin text: CSEL 8 (Latin text: CSEL, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 1
1.37CSEL 8:18–19
subiungit autem statim huic historiae deus, dicens: clamor Sodomorum et Gomorrae multiplicatus est, et peccatum eorum adgrauatum est nimis. clamor, inquit, Sodomorum et Gomorrae multiplicatus est. pulchre clamorem dixit in se habere peccata; grandis enim absque dubio peccantium clamor est, qui a terra ascendit ad caelum. quare autem peccata hominum quasi clamare testatur? scilicet quia caedi aures suas deus dicit clamoribus peccatorum, ne differatur poena peccantium. et uere clamor et grandis clamor est, quando pietas dei peccatorum clamoribus uincitur, ut peccantes punire cogatur. ostendit ergo dominus, quam inuitus puniat etiam grauissimos peccatores, dicens, quod clamor Sodomorum ad se ascenderit. hoc est dicere: misericordia quidem mea mihi suadet ut parcam, sed tamen peccatorum clamor cogit ut puniam. cum ergo ista dixisset, quid consecutum est?
God at once joins to this story the words: “The cry of Sodom and Gomorrah has multiplied, and their sin has become exceedingly grievous.” “The cry,” he says, “of Sodom and Gomorrah has multiplied.” Well did he say that sins carry a cry within them; for great without doubt is the cry of sinners, which rises from earth to heaven. But why does he testify that men’s sins as it were cry out? Because God says his ears are struck by the cries of sins, so that the punishment of sinners may not be postponed. And truly it is a cry, and a great cry, when God’s kindness is overcome by the cries of sins so that he is compelled to punish the sinners. So the Lord shows how unwillingly he punishes even the gravest sinners, saying that the cry of Sodom had risen to him. That is to say: “My mercy urges me to spare, but the cry of sins compels me to punish.” When he had said these things, what followed?
Gen 18:20 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The cry of Sodom’s sins compels the merciful God to punish.
- Gen 18:20.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; words run together): multiplicatus est, etpeccatum → multiplicatus est, et peccatum; miselricordia → misericordia.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.37 (CSEL 8:18–19; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.38CSEL 8:19
mittuntur angeli Sodomam, proficiscuntur introeunt, bonorum fouentur officio malorum uexantur iniuria; caecantur improbi saluantur probi. Loth cum affectibus piis urbe educitur, urbs cum habitatoribus impiis concrematur. interrogo hic, utrumnam deus ex iudicio malos an sine iudicio concremarit? qui sine iudicio Sodomitas punitos a deo dicit, iniquum deum arguit: si autem cum iudicio malos perdidit, iudicauit. iudicauit utique et quidem iam quasi ad instar futuri iudicii iudicauit, cum enim ad supplicium malorum gehennam in futuro arsuram esse manifestum sit, Sodomam autem et uicinas ei urbes caelestis flamma consumpserit.
Angels are sent to Sodom; they set out, they enter; they are cherished by the service of the good and harassed by the outrage of the wicked; the wicked are blinded, the upright are saved. Lot with his devout family is led out of the city; the city with its impious inhabitants is burned up. I ask here whether God burned the wicked with judgment or without judgment. Whoever says the Sodomites were punished by God without judgment accuses God of injustice; but if he destroyed the wicked with judgment, he judged. He judged indeed, and judged already, as it were, after the pattern of the future judgment; for it is plain that Gehenna will burn in the future for the punishment of the wicked, and heavenly fire consumed Sodom and its neighboring cities.
Gen 19:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 19:24 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The destruction of Sodom was a judgment that prefigures the last judgment.
- Gen 19.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): utrumuam deus → utrumnam deus.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.38 (CSEL 8:19; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-38
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1.39CSEL 8:19
in praesenti autem illud quod futurum est deus uoluit declarare iudicium, quando super impium populum gehennam misit e caelo, sicut etiam apostolus dicit, quod deus ciuitates Sodomam et Gomorram euersione damnarit exemplum ponens impie acturis, quamuis id ipsum quod ibi actum est plus habuerit misericordiae quam seueritatis. quod enim poenam tam diu distulit, misericordiae fuit, iustitiae, quod aliquando puniuit. et ideo cum angelos Sodomam deus mitteret, hoc nobis probare uoluit, quod etiam malos puniret inuitus: scilicet ut, cum legeremus quae a Sodomitis angeli pertulissent et uideremus scelerum immanitatem criminum turpitudinem libidinum obscenitatem, probaret utique nobis deus, quod ipse eos noluerit perdere, sed ipsi extorserint ut perirent.
In the present, God wished to declare the judgment that is to come, when he sent Gehenna from heaven upon an impious people, as the apostle also says that God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to overthrow, making them an example to those who would act impiously; though what was done there had more of mercy than of severity. For that he postponed the punishment so long was mercy; that he punished at last was justice. And so when God sent angels to Sodom, he wished to prove this to us, that he punishes even the wicked unwillingly; so that when we read what the angels endured from the Sodomites and saw the enormity of their crimes, the baseness of their offenses, the obscenity of their lusts, God might prove to us that he himself did not wish to destroy them, but that they themselves extorted their destruction.
2 Pet 2:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God’s long patience with Sodom shows that he punishes unwillingly.
- 2 Pet 2:6.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word): ciuita tes Sodomam → ciuitates Sodomam.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.39 (CSEL 8:19; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-39
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1.40CSEL 8:19–20
Possum innumera proferre, sed uereor, ne dum satis rem probare nitimur, historiam texuisse uideamur. Moyses in deserto positus gregem pascit, rubum ardere conspicit, deum ex rubo audit, praecepta accipit, potestate exaltatur, ad Pharaonem mittitur, uenit loquitur contemnitur uincit. Aegyptus percutitur, Pharaonis inoboedientia uerberatur. et quidem non uno modo, scilicet ut plus sacrilegus torqueatur diuersitate supplicii. et quid postremo? decies rebellat decies uerberatur. quid ergo dicimus? puto quod in his omnibus et curare pariter res humanas deum et iudicare cognoscas. in Aegypto quippe tunc enim non simplex tantum sed multiplex constat dei fuisse iudicium; quotienscumque enim rebellantes Aegyptios percussit totiens iudicauit.
I could bring forward innumerable instances, but I fear that, while striving to prove the matter sufficiently, we may seem to have woven a history. Moses, placed in the desert, feeds a flock, sees a bush burning, hears God from the bush, receives commands, is exalted with power, is sent to Pharaoh; he comes, he speaks, he is despised, he prevails. Egypt is struck; Pharaoh’s disobedience is scourged, and not in one way only, so that the sacrilegious man might be the more tortured by the variety of punishment. And finally? Ten times he rebels, ten times he is scourged. What, then, do we say? I think that in all these things you recognize that God both cares for human affairs and judges them. For in Egypt then, it is clear, God’s judgment was not single but manifold; for as often as he struck the rebellious Egyptians, so often he judged.
Exod 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 7:20 (allusion, medium confidence) · Exod 12:29 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The call of Moses and the ten plagues show God’s care and repeated judgment.
- Exod 3–12. The chapter numeral “VIIII” is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; chapter numeral leaked into the text; stray marks and OCR slip): VIII!. Possum innumera → Possum innumera; Moyses in - deserto. positos → Moyses in deserto positus; in his Omnibus → in his omnibus.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.40 (CSEL 8:19–20; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.41CSEL 8:20
sed post ista, quae diximus, quid secutum est? Israhel dimittitur, pascha celebrato Aegyptios spoliat, diues abscedit. Pharaonem paenitet, exercitum contrahit, ad fugientes peruenit, castris iungitur, tenebris separatur, siccatur pelagus, Israhel graditur, officiosa undarum patientia liberatur. Pharao sequitur, mare super eum reuoluitur, fluctu operiente deletur. puto iam non obscurum in his quae acta sunt dei esse iudicium, et quidem non iudicium tantum sed etiam moderationem atque patientiam: patientiae enim fuit quod Aegyptii rebellantes saepe percussi sunt, iudicii quod contumaciae pertinaces morte damnati.
But after what we have said, what followed? Israel is released; having celebrated the Passover, it despoils the Egyptians and departs rich. Pharaoh repents, gathers his army, reaches the fugitives, comes close to their camp, is separated by darkness; the sea is dried, Israel walks through, freed by the obliging patience of the waves. Pharaoh follows; the sea rolls back upon him, he is destroyed with the flood covering him. I think God’s judgment in these events is no longer obscure, and indeed not judgment only but also restraint and patience: for it was patience that the rebellious Egyptians were often struck, judgment that those stubborn in obstinacy were condemned to death.
Exod 12:36 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 14:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 14:28 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The exodus and the drowning of Pharaoh show God’s patience and judgment.
- Exod 12:35–36; 14.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.41 (CSEL 8:20; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.42CSEL 8:20–21
igitur post hunc rerum gestarum ordinem ingreditur heremum uictrix sine bello gens Hebraeorum. agit iter sine itinere, uiatrix sine uia, praeuio deo, diuino commilitio honorabilis, ductu caelesti potens, sequens mobilem columnam, nubilam die, igneam nocte, congruas colorum diuersitates pro temporum diuersitate sumentem, scilicet ut et diei lucem lutea obscuritate distingueret et caliginem noctis flammeo splendore claritate radiaret.
So after this sequence of events the Hebrew nation, victorious without war, enters the desert. It makes a journey without a road, a traveller without a way, with God going before, honored by divine fellowship in arms, powerful by heavenly guidance, following a moving pillar, cloudy by day, fiery by night, taking on colors suited to the difference of times, so as both to mark off the light of day with a dusky shade and to make the darkness of night shine with flaming brightness.
Exod 13:21 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God led Israel through the desert by the pillar of cloud and fire.
- Exod 13:21–22.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): splepdore → splendore.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.42 (CSEL 8:20–21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-42). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-42
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of the staged edition (corrections logged). No public-domain English translation is available to us and no FOTC volume covers Salvian, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
1.43CSEL 8:21
adde huc fontes repente natos, adde medicatas aquas uel datas uel immutatas, speciem seruantes naturam relinquentes, adde aperta erumpentibus riuis montium capita, adde scaturrientia nouis puluerulenta arua torrentibus, adde inlatos itinerantium castris alitum greges, deum pietate indulgentissima non usibus tantum hominum sed etiam inlecebris seruientem, datum per quadraginta annos astris cotidie famulantibus cibum, rorantes iugiter escis dulcibus polos, non ad uictum tantum sed etiam ad delicias profluentes: adde homines in nullis membrorum suorum partibus accessus et decessus humanorum corporum sentientes, ungues non auctos, dentes non imminutos, capillos semper aequales, non adtritos pedes, non scissas uestes, calciamenta non rupta, redundantem hominum honorem usque ad induuiarum uilium dignitatem: adde huc erudiendae gentis officio descendentem ad terras deum, adcommodantem se terrenis uisibus deum filium, innumerae multitudinis plebem in consortium diuinae familiaritatis admissam, sacrae amicitiae honore pollentem: adde huc tonitrua, adde fulgura, terribiles bucinarum caelestium sonos, tremendum undique totius aeris fragorem, polos sacris clangoribus mugientes, ignes caligines nebulas deo plenas, loquentem comminus dominum, legem diuino ore resonantem, incisas digito dei litteras apices paginas, saxeum uolumen, discentem populum et docentem deum ac mixtis paene hominibus atque angelis unam caeli ac terrae scholam.
Add to this springs suddenly born; add waters made wholesome, whether given or changed, keeping their appearance while leaving their nature; add mountain summits opened with bursting streams; add dusty fields gushing with new torrents; add flocks of birds brought into the travellers’ camp, God with most indulgent kindness serving not only the uses but even the pleasures of men; food given daily for forty years by the service of the heavens; the skies continually dewy with sweet food, flowing not only for sustenance but even for delight. Add men who felt in no part of their limbs the growth and decline of human bodies: nails not grown, teeth not worn away, hair always the same, feet not worn, clothes not torn, shoes not broken, an overflowing honor of men reaching even to the dignity of their humble garments. Add to this God descending to earth for the work of teaching a nation; God the Son accommodating himself to earthly eyes; a people of innumerable multitude admitted to the fellowship of divine intimacy, mighty in the honor of sacred friendship. Add to this thunders, add lightnings, the terrible sounds of heavenly trumpets, the dreadful crash of the whole air on every side, the skies roaring with sacred blasts, fires, darkness, clouds full of God, the Lord speaking face to face, the law resounding from the divine mouth, letters, characters, pages cut by the finger of God, a stone volume, a people learning and God teaching, and, with men and angels almost mingled, one school of heaven and earth.
Exod 15:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 17:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 16:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 16:35 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 29:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 8:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 19:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 31:18 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God’s wonders in the desert and the giving of the law at Sinai show his care.
- Exod 15:25; 17:6; 16:13–35; Deut 8:4; 29:5; Exod 19:16–20; 31:18. Salvian identifies the God who appeared at Sinai with God the Son.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): adde -aperta → adde aperta; famulantibus -cibum → famulantibus cibum; calciamenta non rupta,, redundantem → calciamenta non rupta, redundantem.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.43 (CSEL 8:21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-43). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-43
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of the staged edition (corrections logged). No public-domain English translation is available to us and no FOTC volume covers Salvian, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
1.44CSEL 8:21–22
sic enim scriptum est, quod cum retulisset Moyses uerba populi ad dominum, dixerit ei dominus: iam nunc ueniam ad te in caligine nubis, ut audiat me populus loquentem ad te. et paulo post: ecce, inquit, coeperunt audiri tonitrua ac micare fulgura et nubes densissima operire montem. et iterum: descenditque dominus super montem Sina in ipso montis uertice. ac deinceps: loquebaturque cum Moyse uidentibus uniuersis, quod columna nubis ad ostium staret tabernaculi, stabantque et ipsi et adorabant per fores tabernaculorum suorum loquebatur dominus ad Moysen facie ad faciem, sicut loqui solet homo ad amicum suum. quae cum ita sint, uideturne habere hominis curam deus, haec tanta tribuens, haec tanta praestans, participem sermonis sui uilem homunculum faciens et quasi in consortium sacrae sodalitatis admittens, aperiens ei plenas diuitiis immortalibus palmas suas, alens eos nectaris poculo, pascens caelesti cibo? quam, rogo, maiorem eis gubernaculi sui praestare curam, quam maiorem praestare potuit affectum, quam ut cum praesentis saeculi uitam agerent, speciem iam futurae beatitudinis possiderent?
For so it is written that when Moses had reported the words of the people to the Lord, the Lord said to him: “Now I will come to you in the darkness of a cloud, so that the people may hear me speaking to you.” And a little after: “Behold,” it says, “thunders began to be heard and lightnings to flash and a very dense cloud to cover the mountain.” And again: “And the Lord came down upon Mount Sinai, on the very top of the mountain.” And then: “And he spoke with Moses while all saw that the pillar of cloud stood at the door of the tabernacle; and they stood and worshipped at the doors of their tents; the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as a man is accustomed to speak to his friend.” Since this is so, does God seem to have care of man, granting such great things, bestowing such great things, making a lowly little man a sharer in his speech and admitting him, as it were, to the fellowship of a sacred companionship, opening to him his palms full of immortal riches, nourishing them with a cup of nectar, feeding them with heavenly food? What greater care of his governance, I ask, could he show them, what greater affection, than that, while they lived the life of the present age, they should already possess an image of future blessedness?
Exod 19:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 19:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 19:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:11 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God spoke with Moses face to face and fed Israel with heavenly food, showing great care.
- Exod 19:9, 16, 20; 33:9–11.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): retulisset Moysee uerba → retulisset Moyses uerba.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.44 (CSEL 8:21–22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-44). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-44
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of the staged edition (corrections logged). No public-domain English translation is available to us and no FOTC volume covers Salvian, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
1.45CSEL 8:22–23
Sed respondeatur forte hoc loco, habuisse quondam hanc hominum curam deum, ceterum nunc penitus non habere. unde hoc ita credimus? forsitan quia, ut illi tunc, manna cotidie non comedimus, cum agros triticeis plenos messibus demetamus? quia coturnices humanis se manibus ingerentes non adprehendimus, cum omnia auium pecudum bestiarum genera deuoremus? quod salientes rupibus aquas apertis oribus non excipimus, cum uinarias domos uinearum fructibus iurigemus?
But perhaps the reply here will be that God once had this care for men but now has none at all. Why do we believe this? Perhaps because we do not, like them then, eat manna daily, while we reap fields full of wheat harvests? Because we do not catch quails throwing themselves into human hands, while we devour every kind of bird, cattle, and beast? Because we do not catch with open mouths waters leaping from rocks, while we fill our wine-houses with the fruits of the vineyards?
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Exod 16:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Num 11:31 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The lack of present miracles does not show God’s neglect; we have abundant ordinary gifts.
- The verb printed iurigemus is corrupt; translated by sense (“fill”). The chapter numeral “X” is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (chapter numeral leaked into the text; stray mark; stray marks; words run together; OCR slip): X. Sed respondeatur → Sed respondeatur; ut illi, tunc, manna → ut illi tunc, manna; deuoremus?quod saliences → deuoremus? quod salientes; uinarias, domos uinearum fructibus iuri-. gemus → uinarias domos uinearum fructibus iurigemus.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.45 (CSEL 8:22–23; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-45). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-45
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1.46CSEL 8:23
addo ego amplius aliquid, quod nos ipsi, qui illos tunc deo curae fuisse et nos a deo neglegi dicimus, si accipere pro praesentibus bonis praeterita possemus, respueremus penitus condicionis istius optionem. nollemus enim haec quae nunc habemus amittere, ut possemus ea quibus tunc illi usi sunt possidere, non quod nos meliora nunc habeamus, quam gens illa tunc habuit, sed quia et illi, qui cotidiano tunc caeli ac dei ministerio pascebantur, antiquam uentris ingluuiem bonis praesentibus praeferebant, turpissima scilicet ciborum carnalium recordatione maesti et foetidissimo caeparum atque alliorum amore aegrescentes, non quod potiora essent quibus antea usi erant, sed quia quod nunc a nobis fit, hoc tunc ab illis. illi horrebant quae erant et quae non erant desiderabant: nos magis laudamus illa quae tunc fuerunt, quam ista quae nunc sunt, non quia, si eligendi facultas esset, semper habere illa mallemus, sed quia usitatum hoc humanae mentis est uitium,
I add something more: that we ourselves, who say that they were then in God’s care and we are neglected by God, if we could take the past goods instead of the present ones, would wholly reject the choice of that condition. For we would not wish to lose what we now have in order to possess what they then enjoyed; not that we now have better things than that nation then had, but because even they, who were then fed daily by the service of heaven and of God, preferred the old gluttony of the belly to the present goods, sad at the most shameful memory of fleshly foods and sickening with a most foul love of onions and garlic; not that what they had used before was better, but because what we do now they did then. They loathed what was and desired what was not; we praise more what was then than what is now, not because, if we had the choice, we would always rather have that, but because this is the usual vice of the human mind,
Num 11:5 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Like the Israelites longing for Egypt, people always prefer what they lack.
- Num 11:4–6. The sentence continues in 1.47.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): illos tnnc deo → illos tunc deo; quibus tunc illi, usi sunt → quibus tunc illi usi sunt; non quod potiora. essent → non quod potiora essent.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.46 (CSEL 8:23; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-46). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-46
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1.47CSEL 8:23
illa magis semper uelle quae desunt, et quia, ut ille ait, aliena nobis, nostra plus aliis placent. accedit quoque illud, quod generale ferme est omni homini, ut deo semper ingratus sit, insitoque hoc ac quasi natiuo malo se cuncti inuicem uinciunt, ut beneficiis dei detrahant, ne debitores se esse cognoscant. sed haec hactenus. nunc ad negotii dudum coepti ordinem reuertamur, quamuis, ut reor, non mediocriter iam probauerimus quae proposuimus: sed addamus tamen adhuc, si placet, quippiam. quia melius est plus probare aliquid quam necesse est, quam minus forsitan quam negotio debeatur.
always to want more what is lacking; and because, as the poet says, other people’s things please us, and ours please others more. There is added also what is almost general to every man, that he is always ungrateful to God; and by this ingrained and, as it were, inborn evil all bind one another to disparage God’s benefits so as not to recognize themselves as debtors. But enough of this. Now let us return to the order of the business begun earlier, although, I think, we have already proved what we proposed not moderately; but let us add something more, if you please, because it is better to prove something more than necessary than perhaps less than the business requires.
Notes and citation
Summary: Men always prefer what they lack and are ungrateful to God.
- Publilius Syrus, Sentences A 28 (“alienum nobis, nostrum plus aliis placet”).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark; stray mark; OCR slip; words run together): ut illeait → ut ille ait; ut deo semper. ingratus sit, insitoque hoc at quasi → ut deo semper ingratus sit, insitoque hoc ac quasi; probauerinpms → probauerimus; sed addamus tamen. adhuc → sed addamus tamen adhuc.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.47 (CSEL 8:23; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-47). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.48CSEL 8:23–24
Liberatus quondam de Pharaonis iugo populus Hebraeorum ad Sina montem praeuaricatus est et statim a domino pro errore percussus. sic enim scriptum est: percussit ergo dominus populum pro errore uituli quem fecerat Aaron. quod potuit maius et euidentius de peccatoribus deus ferre iudicium, quam ut statim consequeretur poena peccantes? et tamen cum omnis populus reus fuerit, cur non est in omnes missa damnatio? quia pius scilicet dominus partem percussit sententiae suae gladio, ut partem corrigeret exemplo probaretque omnibus simul et coercendo censuram et indulgendo pietatem. censura enim fuit, quod castigauit, pietas quod pepercit, quamuis utrumque impari modo: plus siquidem tunc pietati datum est quam seueritati. ideo utique, quia cum indulgentissimus dominus propensiorem se semper miserationi praestet quam ultioni, licet in coercenda tunc Iudaici exercitus parte iudicio ac seueritati censura diuina aliquid adtribuerit, maiorem sibi tamen populi portionem pietas uindicauit, specialiter quidem hoc et peculiari tunc innumerae plebis misericordia, ne omnes scilicet quos reatus complectebatur poena consumeret.
The Hebrew people, once freed from the yoke of Pharaoh, transgressed at Mount Sinai and was at once struck by the Lord for its error. For so it is written: “So the Lord struck the people for the error of the calf which Aaron had made.” What greater and plainer judgment could God pass on sinners than that punishment should at once overtake the sinners? And yet, since the whole people was guilty, why was condemnation not sent on all? Because the kind Lord struck a part with the sword of his sentence so as to correct a part by the example, and to show to all at once both strictness by restraining and kindness by pardoning. It was strictness that he chastised, kindness that he spared, though both in unequal measure: more was then given to kindness than to severity. This was so because, since the most indulgent Lord always shows himself more inclined to compassion than to vengeance, though in restraining part of the Jewish host the divine strictness then gave something to judgment and severity, kindness claimed the greater portion of the people for itself, specially and particularly out of mercy for that innumerable people, so that punishment might not consume all whom guilt embraced.
Exod 32:35 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: At Sinai God punished part of the people for the golden calf and spared the rest.
- Exod 32:35. The chapter numeral “XI” is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; chapter numeral leaked into the text): XI. Liberatus quondam → Liberatus quondam; probiretque → probaretque.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.48 (CSEL 8:23–24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-48). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.49CSEL 8:24–25
ceterum erga personas quasdam, ut legimus, ac familias censura dei inexorabilis est, sicut illud, ubi otiante sabbatis populo is, qui colligere ligna usurparat, occiditur: quamuis enim opus ipsum hominis uideretur innoxium, faciebat tamen eum diei obseruatio criminosum: uel cum duobus lite certantibus unus quia blasphemarat morte multatur. sic enim scriptum est: ecce autem filius mulieris Israhelitis, quem pepererat de uiro Aegyptio inter filios Israhel, iurgatus est in castris cum uiro Israhelite: cumque blasphemasset dominum et maledixisset ei, adductus est ad Moysen. et paulo post: miserunt, inquit, eum in carcerem, donec uiderent, quid iuberet dominus, qui locutus est ad Moysen dicens: educ blasphemum extra castra, et ponant omnes qui audierunt manus super caput eius et lapidet eum populus uniuersus.
But toward certain persons and families, as we read, God’s strictness is inexorable, as when, while the people rested on the sabbath, the man who had presumed to gather wood was killed; for though the man’s act itself seemed harmless, the observance of the day made him criminal. Or when, of two contending in a quarrel, one was punished with death because he had blasphemed. For so it is written: “Now the son of an Israelite woman, whom she had borne to an Egyptian man among the children of Israel, quarrelled in the camp with an Israelite man; and when he had blasphemed the Lord and cursed him, he was brought to Moses.” And a little after: “They put him in prison,” it says, “until they should see what the Lord commanded; and he spoke to Moses, saying: Bring the blasphemer outside the camp, and let all who heard lay their hands on his head, and let the whole people stone him.”
Num 15:32 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 24:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Lev 24:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Lev 24:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Lev 24:14 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God punished the sabbath-breaker and the blasphemer inexorably.
- Num 15:32–36; Lev 24:10–14.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.49 (CSEL 8:24–25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-49). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.50CSEL 8:25
numquid non praesens dei est manifestumque iudicium et prolata quasi iuxta humani examinis formam caelesti disceptatione sententia? primum qui peccauerat comprehensus est, secundo quasi ad tribunal adductus, tertio accusatus, deinde in carcerem missus, postremo caelestis iudicii auctoritate punitus: porro autem non punitus tantum sed punitus sub testimonio, ut damnare scilicet uideretur reum iustitia non potestas, exemplo scilicet ad cunctorum emendationem proficiente, ut ne qui postea admitteret, quod omnis in uno populus uindicasset. hac igitur ratione atque iudicio omnia deus et nunc agit et semper egit, scilicet ut correctioni omnium proficeret quicquid singuli pertulissent.
Is not God’s judgment present and manifest here, and a sentence pronounced by heavenly trial, as it were after the form of human examination? First the sinner was arrested, second brought, as it were, before a tribunal, third accused, then sent to prison, finally punished by the authority of heavenly judgment; and not only punished, but punished under testimony, so that justice, not power, might be seen to condemn the accused, the example serving the correction of all, so that no one afterward would commit what the whole people had punished in one man. By this reasoning and judgment, then, God both now does and always has done all things, so that whatever individuals suffered would serve the correction of all.
Lev 24:23 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The blasphemer’s trial shows God judging by due process, with an example for all.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): manifestumque iudicium -et prolata → manifestumque iudicium et prolata.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.50 (CSEL 8:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-50). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.51CSEL 8:25–26
sicut etiam illud fuit, cum Abiu et Nadab, sacerdotalis sanguinis uiri, caelesti igne consumpti sunt: in quibus utique non iudicium tantum sed praesens ostendere deus uoluit impendensque iudicium. sic enim scriptum est, quod, cum egressus ignis a domino deuorasset holocaustum, arreptis Nadab et Abiu filii Aaron turibulis posuerunt ignem et incensum desuper, offerentes coram domino ignem alienum, quod eis praeceptum non erat, egressusque ignis a domino deuorauit eos, et mortui sunt coram domino. quid enim aliud quam extentam super nos dexteram suam et imminentem iugiter gladium uoluit ostendere, qui errorem supradictorum statim in ipso opere puniuit, nec prius paene est peractum facinus peccantium quam ulcisceretur poena peccatum. quamuis non id tantum in hac re
So it was too when Abihu and Nadab, men of priestly blood, were consumed by heavenly fire: in them God wished to show not only judgment but present and impending judgment. For so it is written that, when fire had gone out from the Lord and devoured the burnt offering, “Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took their censers and put fire and incense on them, offering before the Lord strange fire, which had not been commanded them; and fire went out from the Lord and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.” What else did he wish to show than his right hand stretched over us and his sword continually hanging over us, who punished the error of these men at once in the very act, and the sinners’ deed was hardly completed before punishment avenged the sin? Though not only this was done in this matter,
Lev 9:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 10:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Lev 10:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Nadab and Abihu were struck at once by God’s fire for offering strange fire.
- Lev 9:24–10:2. The sentence continues in 1.52.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): imsependensque → impendensque.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.51 (CSEL 8:25–26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-51). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.52CSEL 8:26
actum sit sed etiam multa alia. cum enim in illis tunc non mens impia sed facilitas nimium inconsulta punita sit, declarauit profecto dominus; quo supplicio digni essent qui contemptu diuinitatis aliquid admitterent, quando etiam illi percussi a deo essent, qui sola mentis inconsideratione peccassent, aut quam rei essent qui contra iussionem domini sui facerent, cum etiam illi taliter plecterentur, qui iniussa fecissent. porro autem etiam ex hoc consulere deus uoluit nostrae correctioni per censuram salubris exempli, ut omnes laici intellegerent, quantum iram dei timere deberent, cum a praesenti poena filios sacerdotis nec meritum parentis eriperet nec ministerii sacri priuilegium uindicaret.
but many other things too. For since what was punished in them was not an impious mind but too heedless a rashness, the Lord surely declared what punishment those would deserve who committed anything out of contempt for the Godhead, when even those were struck by God who had sinned only by thoughtlessness of mind; or how guilty those would be who acted against their Lord’s command, when even those were so punished who had done what was not commanded. Moreover, by this God also wished to provide for our correction through the strictness of a wholesome example, so that all lay people might understand how much they must fear the wrath of God, when neither the merit of their father nor the privilege of the sacred ministry rescued the sons of a priest from present punishment.
Notes and citation
Summary: If priests were punished for rashness, much more will contempt of God be punished.
- “Lay people” (laici): Salvian applies the lesson to Christians.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): sed etiam multa alia- cum enim → sed etiam multa alia. cum enim.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.52 (CSEL 8:26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-52). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.53CSEL 8:26
sed quid ego de his dico, quorum inconsiderantia quodammodo deum tetigit et ad caelestem iniuriam redundauit? Maria contra Moysen loquitur et punitur, nec punitur tantum sed punitur more iudicii. primum enim ad iudicium uocatur, deinde arguitur, tertio uerberatur. in obiurgatione enim excipit uim sententiae, in lepra autem patitur piaculum criminosae: quamuis coercitio istiusmodi non Mariam tantum sed etiam Aaronem humiliauerit, quia, etsi deformari lepra summum antistitem non oportuit, et ipsum tamen domini castigatio flagellauit, nec solum hoc, sed in poena, quam Maria patitur, Aaron etiam quasi culpae particeps coercetur; Maria enim supplicio adficitur, ut Aaron confusione multetur.
But why do I speak of those whose thoughtlessness in some way touched God and amounted to an injury to heaven? Miriam speaks against Moses and is punished, and not only punished but punished in the manner of a trial. First she is summoned to judgment, then accused, third scourged. In the rebuke she receives the force of the sentence; in the leprosy she suffers the penalty of the guilty. Yet this coercion humbled not Miriam only but Aaron too, because, though it was not fitting that the high priest be disfigured by leprosy, the Lord’s chastisement scourged him also; and not only this, but in the punishment Miriam suffers, Aaron also is punished as a sharer in the fault; for Miriam is afflicted with punishment so that Aaron may be fined with shame.
Num 12:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Num 12:10 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Miriam was tried and punished with leprosy, and Aaron humbled with her.
- Num 12:1–10.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.53 (CSEL 8:26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-53). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.54CSEL 8:26–27
porro autem, ut inexorabilem in quibusdam agnosceremus formam diuini esse iudicii, ne illius quidem intercessu qui laesus fuerat indulsit. sic enim legimus ad Aaronem et Mariam dixisse dominum: quare igitur non timuistis detrahere seruo meo Moysi? iratusque abiit. et ecce Maria apparuit candens lepra quasi nix, clamauitque Moyses ad dominum dicens: obsecro, domine, sana eam. cui respondit dominus; si pater eius spuisset in faciem illius, non debuerat saltem decem dierum rubore suffundi? separetur septem diebus extra castra, et postea reuocabitur. sufficiant igitur de hoc genere diuisionis et de hac parte sermonis ista quae diximus; infinitum enim est de omnibus disputare, quae nimis longum est etiam sine disputatione numerare. sed adhuc tamen aliquid addamus.
Moreover, so that we might recognize that in some cases the form of divine judgment is inexorable, he did not pardon even at the intercession of the one who had been wronged. For so we read that the Lord said to Aaron and Miriam: “Why then did you not fear to speak against my servant Moses? And being angry he went away. And behold, Miriam appeared white with leprosy like snow; and Moses cried to the Lord, saying: I beseech you, Lord, heal her. The Lord answered him: If her father had spat in her face, ought she not to have been covered with shame at least ten days? Let her be separated seven days outside the camp, and afterwards she shall be called back.” Let what we have said of this kind of division and this part of the discourse suffice; for it is endless to argue about everything, which is too long even to enumerate without argument. But let us still add something.
Num 12:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 12:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 12:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 12:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 12:14 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God did not lift Miriam’s punishment even at Moses’ plea.
- Num 12:8–14.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slips; stray mark): oU.mauitque Moyses ad dominum dicens: obaecro, domine, sana earn → clamauitque Moyses ad dominum dicens: obsecro, domine, sana eam; in faciem illius., non → in faciem illius, non; adhuc tamen aliquid addamus.. → adhuc tamen aliquid addamus..
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.54 (CSEL 8:26–27; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-54). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.55CSEL 8:27
Paenitet gentem Hebraeorum de Aegypto recessisse, percutitur; dolet deinde fatigari ac labore itineris, adfligitur: carnes desiderat, uerberatur. et quia cotidie manna edens explere inlecebris cupit uentris ingluuiem, optata quidem cupiditate saturatur sed in ipsa tamen saturitate torquetur. adhuc enim, inquit scriptura, esca erat in ore ipsorum et ira dei ascendit in eos et occidit plurimos eorum et electos Israhel impediuit.
The Hebrew nation regrets having left Egypt: it is struck. It then complains of being wearied by the labor of the journey: it is afflicted. It desires meat: it is scourged. And because, while eating manna daily, it wishes to fill the greed of the belly with allurements, it is indeed sated with the craving it desired, but in that very satiety it is tormented. “For while the food was still in their mouth,” says Scripture, “the wrath of God came up upon them and killed very many of them and struck down the chosen of Israel.”
Num 11:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Num 11:33 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 78:30 (77:30 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 78:31 (77:31 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Israel’s complaints and craving for meat were punished.
- Num 11:1, 4–6, 33; Ps 78:30–31 (Vulgate 77:30–31). The chapter numeral “XII” is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; chapter numeral leaked; OCR slip; words run together): XII. Paenitet gentem Hebraeorum 4e Aegypto → Paenitet gentem Hebraeorum de Aegypto; dolet deinde fatigari ae labore → dolet deinde fatigari ac labore; saturatu sed → saturatur sed; escaerat → esca erat.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.55 (CSEL 8:27; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-55). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.56CSEL 8:27–28
On contra Moysen rebellat, extinguitur: Core conuiciatur, obruitur: Dathan et Abiron murmurant, deuorantur. aperta est enim, inquit, terra, et degluttiuit Dathan et operuit synagogam Abiron. ducenti quoque et quinquaginta, ut sacer sermo testatur, principes uiri, qui tempore concilii per nomina uocabantur, surrexerunt contra Moysen. cumque stetissent contra Moysen et Aaron, dixerunt: sufficiat uobis, quia omnis multitudo sanctorum est et in ipsis est dominus: cur eleuamini super populum domini? et quid post haec? ignis, inquit, egressus a domino interfecit CCL uiros, qui offerebant incensum.
On rebels against Moses: he is extinguished. Korah reviles: he is overwhelmed. Dathan and Abiram murmur: they are swallowed up. “For the earth opened,” it says, “and swallowed Dathan and covered the congregation of Abiram.” Also two hundred and fifty leading men, as the sacred word testifies, who were called by name at the time of assembly, rose up against Moses. “And when they had stood against Moses and Aaron, they said: Let it be enough for you, since the whole multitude is of holy ones and the Lord is among them: why do you lift yourselves up over the people of the Lord?” And what after this? “Fire,” it says, “went out from the Lord and killed the two hundred and fifty men who were offering incense.”
Num 16:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 106:17 (105:17 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Num 16:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 16:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 16:35 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Korah, Dathan, Abiram, and the 250 rebels were destroyed.
- Num 16:1–3, 31–35; Ps 106:17 (Vulgate 105:17). “On” the son of Peleth (Num 16:1).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; stray mark; words run together): Qg contra Mpysen → On contra Moysen; aperta est enim,.inquit → aperta est enim, inquit; tempore conoilii → tempore concilii; egressus adomino → egressus a domino.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.56 (CSEL 8:27–28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-56). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.57CSEL 8:28
sed cum haec tanta fierent, caelestis cura non profuit. adhibita est saepissime coercitio, sed emendatio non secuta. sicut enim nos, cum flagellamur assidue, non corrigimur, ita et illi, cum caederentur saepissime, non emendabantur. quid enim scriptum est? murmurauit autem omnis multitudo filiorum Israhel sequenti die contra Moysen et Aaron, dicens: uos interfecistis populum domini. et quid postea? percussa sunt statim et diuino igne consumpta quattuordecim milia hominum et septingenti.
But though such great things were done, heavenly care did not avail. Coercion was very often applied, but amendment did not follow. For as we, though continually scourged, are not corrected, so they too, though very often struck, were not amended. For what is written? “But the whole multitude of the children of Israel murmured the next day against Moses and Aaron, saying: You have killed the people of the Lord.” And what then? At once fourteen thousand seven hundred men were struck and consumed by divine fire.
Num 16:41 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 16:49 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Despite repeated punishment, Israel did not amend, and 14,700 died.
- Num 16:41, 49 (Vulgate 16:41, 49; LXX 17:6, 14). In Numbers they die of a plague.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.57 (CSEL 8:28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-57). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.58CSEL 8:28
cum omnis ergo tunc populi multitudo peccauerit, cur non est in omnibus uindicatum? praesertim cum ex illa quam supra dixi seditione Core nullus euaserit. cur ibi cunctum peccantium coetum interfici deus uoluit, hic tantummodo portionem? scilicet quia plenus et iustitia et misericordia dominus et pietati suae multa donat per indulgentiam et seueritati per disciplinam. et ideo ibi praestitit disciplinae, ut proficeret cunctorum emendationi poena omnium noxiorum: hic autem misericordiae suae tribuit, ne uniuersus populus deperiret.
Since the whole multitude of the people then sinned, why was it not punished in all? Especially since from the sedition of Korah I mentioned above no one escaped. Why did God wish the whole assembly of sinners to be killed there, and here only a portion? Because the Lord, full of justice and mercy, grants much to his kindness through indulgence and to his severity through discipline. So there he gave to discipline, so that the punishment of all the guilty might serve the amendment of all; here he gave to his mercy, so that the whole people might not perish.
Notes and citation
Summary: God sometimes punished all and sometimes some, balancing discipline and mercy.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.58 (CSEL 8:28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-58). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of the staged edition (corrections logged). No public-domain English translation is available to us and no FOTC volume covers Salvian, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
1.59CSEL 8:28–29
et tamen cum tam misericorditer egerit, quia in parte plebis castigatio totiens repetita non profuit, ad ultimum omnes morte damnauit: quae res et timori et emendationi nostrae simul proficere deberet, scilicet ne qui illorum exemplo penitus non corrigimur, illorum fortasse exitu puniamur. non enim dubium est, quid actum de eis fuerit. nam cum uniuersa gens Hebraeorum ad hoc de Aegypto exierit, ut terram repromissionis intraret, praeter duos tantum sanctos nullus intrauit. sic enim scriptum est: locutus est dominus ad Moysen et Aaron, dicens: usque quo multitudo haec pessima murmurat contra me? uiuo ego, ait dominus; sicut locuti estis hodie ante me, sic faciam uobis: in solitudine hac iacebunt cadauera uestra. et quid postea? paruulos, inquit, uestros, de quibus dixistis quod praedae hostibus forent, introducam, ut uideant terram, quae uobis displicuit: uestra cadauera iacebunt in solitudine. et quid deinde? omnes, inquit, mortui sunt atque percussi in conspectu domini.
And yet, though he acted so mercifully, because chastisement so often repeated on part of the people did not avail, at last he condemned all to death; which ought to serve our fear and amendment together, so that we who are not corrected at all by their example may not perhaps be punished by their end. For there is no doubt what was done with them. For though the whole Hebrew nation came out of Egypt in order to enter the land of promise, none entered except two holy men. For so it is written: “The Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying: How long does this most wicked multitude murmur against me? As I live, says the Lord, as you have spoken today before me, so will I do to you: in this wilderness your corpses shall lie.” And what then? “Your little ones,” he says, “of whom you said they would be prey to enemies, I will bring in, that they may see the land which displeased you; your corpses shall lie in the wilderness.” And what next? “All,” it says, “died and were struck in the sight of the Lord.”
Num 14:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 14:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 14:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 14:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 14:37 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In the end the whole generation died in the wilderness except two.
- Num 14:26–38; Joshua and Caleb.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): non nim dubium → non enim dubium.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.59 (CSEL 8:28–29; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-59). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of the staged edition (corrections logged). No public-domain English translation is available to us and no FOTC volume covers Salvian, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
1.60CSEL 8:29–30
quid est, quod in his omnibus non sit? uis uidere rectorem? ecce et praesentia corrigit et futura disponit: uis uidere seuerum iudicem? ecce noxios punit: uis uidere iustum et pium? ecce innocentibus parcit: uis uidere in omnibus iudicem? ecce ubique iudicium est. nam et ut iudex arguit et ut iudex regit: iudex promit sententiam, iudex noxios perimit, iudex innoxios muneratur.
What is there that is not in all these things? Do you want to see a ruler? Behold, he both corrects the present and arranges the future. Do you want to see a severe judge? Behold, he punishes the guilty. Do you want to see one just and kind? Behold, he spares the innocent. Do you want to see a judge in all things? Behold, judgment is everywhere. For as judge he accuses and as judge he rules; the judge pronounces sentence, the judge destroys the guilty, the judge rewards the innocent.
Notes and citation
Summary: In Israel’s history God appears everywhere as ruler and judge.
Cite (SBL): Salvian, Gub. 1.60 (CSEL 8:29–30; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/salvian-gubernatione/1-60). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of the staged edition (corrections logged). No public-domain English translation is available to us and no FOTC volume covers Salvian, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.