Against the Letter of Parmenian 2.33–3.2

Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 51 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, Contra epistulam Parmeniani (CSEL 51, 1908), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).

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Chapter 2

2.33CSEL 51:86–87

Sed inter multa miror hominem, cum ageret non posse haberi baptismum nisi acceptum nec posse accipi sine dante, interposuisse ex euangelio testimonium: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi fuerit illi datum de caelo. posset enim aliquis horum uerborum inscius, cum coepisset iste dicere: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum illi fuerit de caelo, antequam dixisset de caelo, putare illum dicturum fuisse a Donato aut a Parmeniano aut ab aliquo de parte Donati aut omnino ab ipsa parte Donati. agnosco euangelium et illic scriptum esse recenseo: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum illi fuerit de caelo. sed numquid Donatus est caelum? numquid Parmenianus est caelum? numquid pars ipsa Donati? illa uero non esset caelum, nec si esset in caelo. qui enim ait: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum ei fuerit de caelo, numquam diceret: nisi datum fuerit ei de sole aut de luna aut de stellis, quae tamen in caelo sunt; quanto minus diceret: nisi datum fuerit ei de parte Donati, quae non solum non est caelum nec in caelo, sed nec in regno uult esse caelorum! nec illud procul dubio diceret: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum fuerit ei de ecclesia; et ipsa enim ecclesia de caelo accipit. si autem diceret: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum fuerit ei ab homine iusto, inruerent quidem isti frontosi et se iustos esse proclamarent, ut ab eis acciperet qui uellet accipere, nec nos quaestionem faceremus, utrum iusti essent an non essent, sed inter eos esse uel latentes iniustos facile ostenderemus ex quibusdam proditis et exclusis, et tamen eos non improbare nec dicere non datum uel non acceptum, quod datum et acceptum esset a talibus. sed et hoc falso diceretur, si diceretur: non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum ei fuerit ab homine iusto. ipse enim iustus, a quo alter accipit, quaero a quo acceperit. si et ipse ab homine iusto, et de illo ita quaero, donec ab ipso capite ordinis humani ad aliquem perueniam qui non ab homine accepit, atque ita falsum esse doceam quod non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum fuerit ei ab homine.

But among many things I wonder at the man that, when he was arguing that baptism cannot be had unless received and cannot be received without someone giving it, he inserted a testimony from the gospel: ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him from heaven.’ For someone unacquainted with these words, when this man had begun to say, ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him’, before he said ‘from heaven’, might think that he was going to say ‘by Donatus’, or ‘by Parmenian’, or ‘by someone of the party of Donatus’, or simply ‘by the party of Donatus itself’. I recognize the gospel and acknowledge that it is written there: ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him from heaven.’ But is Donatus heaven? Is Parmenian heaven? Is the party of Donatus itself? It would not be heaven even if it were in heaven. For he who said, ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him from heaven’, would never have said, ‘unless it has been given him from the sun or the moon or the stars’, though these are in heaven; how much less would he have said, ‘unless it has been given him from the party of Donatus’, which not only is not heaven nor in heaven, but does not even want to be in the kingdom of heaven! Nor, without doubt, would he have said, ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him from the church’; for the church itself receives from heaven. But if he had said, ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him by a righteous man’, these brazen men would indeed rush in and proclaim that they are righteous, so that whoever wished to receive might receive from them; and we would not raise the question whether they were righteous or not, but would easily show from certain men who were exposed and expelled that there are, or were, hidden unrighteous men among them, and that they nevertheless did not reject them or say that what had been given and received from such men was not given or not received. But even this would be said falsely, if it were said: ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him by a righteous man.’ For I ask from whom that righteous man himself, from whom another receives, received it. If he too received it from a righteous man, I ask the same about him, until I come, from the very head of the human line, to someone who did not receive from a man; and so I show that it is false that a man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him by a man.

John 3:27 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Parmenian’s text, ‘A man cannot receive anything unless it is given him from heaven’, says ‘from heaven’, not from Donatus, Parmenian, or even a righteous man; the chain of human givers must begin with one who received from God.

  • Source: John 3:27. Stray marks in the digital text (an asterisk, a bracket, a period) are removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray asterisk in the digital text; stray bracket in the digital text; stray period in the digital text): de caelo* putare → de caelo, putare; aut (a Parmeniano → aut a Parmeniano; ab homine. iusto, → ab homine iusto,.

Topics: Donatism, Sacraments

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.33 (CSEL 51:86–87; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.34CSEL 51:87–89

Quid autem agunt isti nescientes per euangelicum testimonium, nisi ut homines ammoneantur, ut aliquando euigilent atque aduertant uere non homines esse attendendos, cum sanctum aliquid accipere homo desiderat, sed illum solum qui hoc de caelo dat homini, quia non potest homo accipere quicquam, nisi datum fuerit ei de caelo? quodsi dixerint: de caelo quidem accipit non de homine, sed tamen per hominem, quaero per qualem. si per iustum tantum, non habent illi qui aput eos ipsos per latentes iniquissimos acceperunt; si et per iniustum, quae causa ergo est ut aliquem rebaptizent? si per iniustum non nisi latentem, non habent quos baptizauit manifestus satelles Gildonis Optatus; si et per iniustum etiam manifestum, qui tamen nondum damnatus et ab ecclesiae communione proiectus sit, non habent illi quos Felicianus Mustitanus, cum ab eorum communione foris esset, in Maximiani schismate baptizauit, quos tamen nunc cum illo regressos nemo rebaptizat. postremo si homo, quamuis de caelo, non tamen nisi per hominem potest accipere quicquam, quaero ipse Iohannes Baptista, qui haec dicebat, per quem hominem acceperat quod de caelo utique acceperat, et non inuenitur. atque ita testimoniis a se prolatis mala causa conuincitur, quia, etsi dicit filius accepisse se a patre et spiritum sanctum de suo accipere, non quasi gradatim, sed sicut ipse exposuit dicens: quia omnia quae habet pater mea sunt, ideo dixi: de meo accipiet, posse tamen hominem non interposito homine diuinitus aliquid accipere exemplo suo Iohannes ipse testatur et tot sancti, antequam dei filius homo fieret, et posteaquam resurrexit et ascendit in caelum centum uiginti homines qui simul congregati erant, quos nullo homine in terra manum imponente de caelo ueniens spiritus sanctus impleuit, et constituto iam ordine ecclesiae Cornelium centurionem ante ipsum baptismum, ante impositionem manus cum eis qui secum erant eodem sancto spiritu repletum Petrus ipse miratus est. nemo ergo accipit sine dante; sed quod pertinet ad baptismi sanctitatem, adest deus qui det et homo qui accipiat, siue per se ipsum deo dante siue per angelum, siue per hominem sanctum [siue per Petrum] siue per hominem iniquum, sicut per tam multos uel latentes uel manifestos, quos ante tempus de messe colligere serui patris familias prohibentur et quos uelut paleam frumenta dominica usque ad tempus uentilationis corde interim separata non temeritate corporaliter deserunt, sed pietate spiritaliter ferunt.

What, then, do these men do, unknowingly, by means of this gospel testimony, but admonish people at last to wake up and notice that, truly, when a man desires to receive something holy, it is not men who are to be looked to, but him alone who gives this to man from heaven, because ‘a man cannot receive anything unless it has been given him from heaven’? But if they say, ‘He receives it indeed from heaven, not from a man, but still through a man’, I ask: through what kind of man? If only through a righteous man, then those do not have it who among them received it through most wicked hidden men. If also through an unrighteous man, what reason is there, then, for them to rebaptize anyone? If through an unrighteous man only when he is hidden, then those do not have it whom Optatus, the evident henchman of Gildo, baptized. If through an unrighteous man even when evident, provided he has not yet been condemned and cast out of the church’s communion, then those do not have it whom Felicianus of Musti baptized in the schism of Maximian while he was outside their communion; yet now, since they have returned with him, no one rebaptizes them. Finally, if a man, though from heaven, can nevertheless receive anything only through a man, I ask through what man John the Baptist himself, who was saying these things, had received what he had certainly received from heaven; and none is found. And so the bad cause is refuted by the testimonies it brings forward. For although the Son says that he has received from the Father, and that the Holy Spirit receives from what is his, not as if by stages, but as he himself explained, saying, ‘Because all that the Father has is mine, therefore I said: He will receive from what is mine’, yet that a man can receive something from God without any man in between, John himself attests by his own example, and so many saints before the Son of God became man; and, after he rose and ascended into heaven, the hundred and twenty people who were gathered together, whom the Holy Spirit coming from heaven filled with no man on earth laying on a hand; and, when the order of the church was already established, Peter himself marvelled that the centurion Cornelius, with those who were with him, was filled with the same Holy Spirit before baptism itself, before the laying on of hands. So no one receives without a giver; but as regards the holiness of baptism, God is present to give and a man to receive, whether God gives through himself, or through an angel, or through a holy man, or through a wicked man, as through so many either hidden or evident men, whom the servants of the householder are forbidden to gather out of the harvest before the time, and whom the Lord’s wheat, like chaff, does not rashly desert bodily, but piously bears spiritually, while meanwhile separated in heart, until the time of winnowing.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

John 3:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:14–15 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 2:1–4 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 10:44–47 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:28–30 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: ‘Given from heaven’ means looking to God, not the minister; every Donatist rule about who can give baptism is broken by their own practice, and Scripture shows God giving without human intermediaries, as to the apostles at Pentecost and to Cornelius.

  • Sources: John 3:27; John 16:14–15; the hundred and twenty (Acts 1:15; 2:1–4); Cornelius (Acts 10:44–47); Matt 13:28–30. The editor deletes ‘or through Peter’ (siue per Petrum) after ‘a holy man’. Optatus of Thamugadi was the ally of Gildo; Felicianus of Musti a readmitted Maximianist bishop. A split word and a stray bracket are corrected.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray bracket in the digital text; word split in the digital text): quic quam → quicquam; dixerint: (de caelo → dixerint: de caelo.

Topics: Donatism, Rebaptism, The Holy Spirit

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.34 (CSEL 51:87–89; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.35CSEL 51:89–90

Qui male, inquit, credidit, consequi non potest baptismi sacramentum, quia scriptum est: peruersum non potest adornari. quid? si ergo aput eos quispiam baptizatus, qui uerbi gratia putauerat Christum ex eo esse coepisse, ex quo secundum carnem de uirgine Maria natus est, postea ueritatis sermone commotus, cum comperisset ipsum esse de quo Iohannes ait: in principio erat uerbum et uerbum erat aput deum et deus erat uerbum, de quo consequenter ait: uerbum caro factum est et habitauit in nobis, fateretur eis errorem suum pristinum atque in eo se fuisse cum baptizaretur sollicitus indicaret, iuberent eum denuo baptizari? numquam utique facerent, sed hominis imperitam simplicitatem, carnali opinione prius prauam, postea ueritatis ratione correctam gratularentur, aut si etiam talis peruersitas pertinaciter ei defendenda uideretur et diu reluctatus neque correctus etiam de ecclesia pelleretur et postea cognita ueritate remearet, paenitentia utique curandum esse censerent, non iteratione baptismatis uulnerandum, quamuis hoc in corde se habuisse fateretur etiam illo tempore, quo aput ipsos fuerat baptizatus. peruersum ergo non potest adornari, quia non ei ad ornamentum ualeret sacramentum quod acceperat, si in fide peruersa persisteret, sed potius ad supplicium, cum tamen ipsum per se sacramentum etiam in peruerso, quem non ornabat sed iudicabat, integrum permaneret et ideo nullo modo esset illius sacramenti uiolanda sanctitas, etiam cum esset illius hominis corrigenda peruersitas.

‘He who has believed wrongly’, he says, ‘cannot obtain the sacrament of baptism, because it is written: What is crooked cannot be adorned.’ What then? Suppose someone baptized among them who, for example, had thought that Christ began to exist from the time he was born of the virgin Mary according to the flesh; and afterwards, moved by the word of truth, when he learned that he is the one of whom John says, ‘In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God’, of whom he consequently says, ‘The Word became flesh and dwelt among us’, he confessed to them his former error and anxiously informed them that he had been in it when he was baptized: would they order him to be baptized again? They would certainly never do it, but would congratulate the man’s unlearned simplicity, at first crooked through a carnal opinion, afterwards corrected by the reasoning of truth. Or if he even thought such a perversity must be stubbornly defended, and, having long resisted and not been corrected, was even driven out of the church, and afterwards, having come to know the truth, returned, they would certainly judge that he must be healed by repentance, not wounded by the repetition of baptism, even if he confessed that he had held this in his heart also at the time when he was baptized among them. ‘What is crooked cannot be adorned’, therefore, because the sacrament he had received would not serve him as an adornment if he persisted in a crooked faith, but rather for punishment; while yet the sacrament itself, in itself, would remain whole even in the crooked man, whom it did not adorn but judged; and so in no way should the holiness of that sacrament be violated, even when that man’s crookedness had to be corrected.

Eccl 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Parmenian cites ‘what is crooked cannot be adorned’, but even the Donatists would not rebaptize someone who had held a false belief about Christ when baptized; the sacrament does not adorn the crooked but remains whole in him for judgment.

  • ‘What is crooked cannot be adorned’ is Eccl 1:15 in the Old Latin, following the Greek. Other sources: John 1:1, 14. A stray dash is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray dash in the digital text): ornamentum -ualeret → ornamentum ualeret.

Topics: Donatism, Rebaptism, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.35 (CSEL 51:89–90; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.36CSEL 51:90–91

Audet etiam Parmenianus exempla nobis diuina proponere, quibus se arbitratur ostendere quaerendum esse hominem sanctum, a quo debeat accipi sacramentum. ipse, inquit, dei filius, ipse dominus Iesus Christus, a quo principium spiritalis baptismi exortum est, cum secundum uoluntatem patris baptizandus esset, utrumne ad Pharisaeos perfidos atque profanos an ad sanctissimum Iohannem uenisse monstratur? at si hoc exemplo inuitamur ad accipiendum baptismum, inferiorem nobis a quo baptizemur debemus inquirere, quandoquidem dominus ab eo baptizatus est, qui se ab ipso domino baptizari debere praedixerat et qui se indignum corrigiam calciamenti eius soluere testabatur. quin immo, ut intermittam quaerere diligentius, cur ipse saluator noster baptizari uoluerit, iam quia certa aliqua causa uoluit, propterea fortasse, cum se ipse posset tinguere qui etiam suum baptizatorem poterat baptizare, uoluit dominus a seruo et ille per quem facta sunt omnia ab illo qui factus est inter omnia baptizari, ut et doceret humilitatem et ostenderet non interesse quis a quo baptizetur, dum eo baptismo quo baptizandus est baptizetur. nec a Pharisaeis dedignaretur ille baptizari, si haberent huiusmodi baptismum Pharisaei, quo ille certi sacramenti gratia uoluit baptizari. nam cum etiam circumcidendus esset, numquid Iohannes quaesitus est, quia hoc a Iudaeis fieri iam solebat, et cum pro illo esset offerendum legale sacrificium, numquid deuitatum est illud templum quod ab eo uocatur spelunca latronum? quo certe et boni intrabant et mali nec bonis oberant mali, quoniam dominus, qui ait: sancti estote, quia et ego sanctus sum, ita inuiolabiliter facit sanctos suos uersari inter malos, si custodiant eam quam accipiunt sanctitatem, quemadmodum ipse dominus Iesus nulla contagione malignitatis in Iudaeorum gente pollutus est, neque cum illa prima sacramenta secundum perfectam humilitatis uiam factus sub lege suscepit neque cum postea discipulis electis cum suo traditore usque ad extremum osculum uixit. eius enim exemplo non solum non facientis mala, sed etiam non consentientis ulli malitiae, inter paleam frumenta secura sunt, quia neque talia faciunt neque consentiunt facientibus, etiamsi in eadem segete usque ad messem, in eadem area usque ad uentilationem, intra eadem retia usque ad separationem quae in litore futura est boni tolerent malos. sed isti sunt uere caeci duces caecorum, qui et in numero suorum tam multos malos uident et uiam pacis non uident et ut se non ad sustinendum inuicem propter unitatis uinculum, sed ad diuidendum inuicem propter schismatis sacrilegium sequantur homines persuadent.

Parmenian even dares to set before us divine examples by which he thinks he shows that one should look for a holy man from whom to receive the sacrament. ‘The Son of God himself’, he says, ‘the Lord Jesus Christ himself, from whom the beginning of spiritual baptism arose, when he was to be baptized according to the Father’s will, is he shown to have come to the faithless and profane Pharisees, or to the most holy John?’ But if we are invited by this example to receive baptism, we ought to look for someone inferior to us to be baptized by, since the Lord was baptized by one who had said beforehand that he ought to be baptized by the Lord himself, and who testified that he was unworthy to untie the strap of his sandal. Indeed, to leave aside a more careful inquiry into why our Saviour himself wished to be baptized, since he wished it for some certain reason, perhaps for this reason, though he who could even baptize his own baptizer could have dipped himself, the Lord willed to be baptized by a servant, and he through whom all things were made willed to be baptized by one who was made among all things, both to teach humility and to show that it does not matter who is baptized by whom, so long as he is baptized with the baptism with which he is to be baptized. Nor would he have disdained to be baptized by the Pharisees, if the Pharisees had had such a baptism as that with which he willed to be baptized for the sake of a definite sacrament. For when he had also to be circumcised, was John sought out, since this was already customarily done by the Jews? And when the sacrifice of the law had to be offered for him, was that temple avoided which he calls a den of robbers? Into it certainly both the good and the bad entered, and the bad did not harm the good, since the Lord, who says, ‘Be holy, because I too am holy’, makes his saints live among the bad so inviolably, if they keep the holiness they receive, just as the Lord Jesus himself was polluted by no contagion of malignity in the Jewish nation, neither when, made under the law in the perfect way of humility, he received those first sacraments, nor when afterwards he lived with his chosen disciples, together with his betrayer, right up to the last kiss. For by his example, who not only did not do evil but consented to no malice, the grains are safe among the chaff, because they neither do such things nor consent to those who do them, even if the good tolerate the bad in the same crop until the harvest, on the same threshing floor until the winnowing, within the same nets until the separation that will take place on the shore. But these men are truly blind leaders of the blind, who see so many bad men in the number of their own and do not see the way of peace, and persuade people to follow them, not to bear with one another for the bond of unity, but to divide from one another for the sacrilege of schism.

Matt 3:13–14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:27 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:21–24 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 21:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 11:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 26:48–49 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:47–48 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 15:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:17 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ’s baptism by John shows humility and that the baptizer does not matter, not that one must seek a holy minister; Christ was circumcised by Jews, presented in a temple full of the bad, and lived with Judas, untouched by their evil.

  • Sources: Matt 3:13–14; John 1:27; John 1:3; Christ’s circumcision and presentation (Luke 2:21–24); the den of robbers (Matt 21:13); Lev 11:44; Gal 4:4; Judas’s kiss (Matt 26:48–49); the net on the shore (Matt 13:47–48); Matt 15:14; the way of peace (Rom 3:17).

Topics: Donatism, Baptism, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.36 (CSEL 51:90–91; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.37CSEL 51:91–93

At enim dictum est per prophetam regi Iosaphat: o rex Iosaphat, si peccatorem tu adiuuas aut eum quem dominus odit tu diligis? propterea fuit super te ira domini. quis enim nostrum dicit peccatorem adiuuandum ad hoc utique in quo peccare uult, sicut ipse Achab, quem adiuuit Iosaphat eundo cum illo in proelium, cum ille Michae prophetae ueracia uerba contemneret? et tamen nec sic obfuit innocentiae regis Iosaphat pessimum meritum regis Achab, quia illum dominus ad se exclamantem de periculo bellico liberauit, illum autem sacrilegum contemptorem in manus hostium uenire permisit. et si quid Iosaphat periculi expertus est, quod ei propheta indicat ab ira domini fuisse, non alieno meruerat peccato sed suo, quia sicut ei dictum est peccantem adiuuabat. sed aput deum cetera eius bona facta praeualuerunt. sic enim ei dicitur: si peccatorem illum adiuuisti et eis qui oderunt dominum amicus es? et in hoc super te ira a facie domini. sermones dei boni in uniuersa sunt tecum, quoniam abstulisti lucos de terra et parasti cor tuum ad requirendum deum. qui autem uersatur in ecclesia dei, ubi sunt et illi qui sua quaerunt, non quae Iesu Christi, qui per inuidiam et contentionem Christum annuntiant non caste, et dicit: siue per occasionem siue per ueritatem Christus annuntietur; et in hoc gaudeo, sed et gaudebo, inpollutus inter eos atque integer permanet, quia non eis ad sua quaerenda consentit, cum hoc culpet atque arguat, nec eos ad peccandum, sed ad hoc adiuuat, unde Christus latius praedicetur et ab eis qui audiunt et faciunt per eos qui quod dicunt non faciunt Christo credatur, in Christo speretur, Christus diligatur. talibus enim praecepit idem apostolus dicens: nolite coniungi cum infidelibus. quae enim participatio est iustitiae et iniquitati? quae communicatio est luci ad tenebras? quis autem consensus est Christi ad Beliar? aut quae pars fideli cum infideli? quae autem conuentio templo dei cum simulacris? uos enim templa dei uiui estis. dicit enim: quia inhabitabo in eis et inambulabo et ero illorum deus et ipsi erunt mihi populus. propter quod exite de medio eorum et separamini, dicit dominus et immundum ne tetigeritis. et ego recipiam uos et ero uobis in patrem et uos eritis mihi in filios et filias, dicit dominus omnipotens. quae uerba isti carnaliter sentientes per tot diuisiones se ipsos minutatim in ipsa una Africa conciderunt. non enim intellegunt neminem coniungi infidelibus nisi qui facit peccata paganorum uel talia facientibus fauet, nec quemquam fieri participem iniquitatis nisi qui iniqua uel agit uel adprobat. quis autem communicat tenebris nisi per tenebras consensionis suae, cum dimisso Christo sequitur Beliar? quis ponit cum infidelibus partem suam nisi qui eius infidelitatis fit particeps? ita enim et templum dei esse desinit nec se aliter simulacris adiungit. qui autem sunt templa dei uiui et in medio nationis tortuosae ac peruersae apparent sicut luminaria in mundo uerbum uitae habentes, nihil eos quod pro unitate tolerant inficit nec angustantur, quia in illis habitat et deambulat deus et exeunt de medio malorum atque separantur interim corde, ne forte, cum id facere per seditionem schismatis uolunt, prius a bonis spiritaliter quam a malis corporaliter separentur.

‘But’, he says, ‘it was said through the prophet to King Jehoshaphat: O King Jehoshaphat, do you help a sinner, or do you love one whom the Lord hates? Therefore the wrath of the Lord has been upon you.’ For which of us says that a sinner should be helped in that in which he wants to sin, as Ahab himself was, whom Jehoshaphat helped by going with him into battle when Ahab despised the truthful words of the prophet Micaiah? And yet not even so did the very bad desert of King Ahab harm the innocence of King Jehoshaphat, for the Lord delivered him from the danger of battle when he cried out to him, but allowed the other, a sacrilegious despiser, to come into the hands of the enemy. And if Jehoshaphat experienced any danger, which the prophet tells him came from the wrath of the Lord, he had deserved it not by another’s sin but by his own, because, as was said to him, he was helping one who sinned. But before God his other good deeds prevailed. For so it is said to him: ‘Have you helped that sinner, and are you a friend to those who hate the Lord? For this there is wrath upon you from the face of the Lord. But good words of God are with you in all things, because you have removed the groves from the land and have prepared your heart to seek God.’ But he who lives in the church of God, where there are also those who seek their own things, not those of Jesus Christ, who proclaim Christ not chastely, through envy and strife, and who says, ‘Whether by occasion or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice, yes, and I will rejoice’, remains unpolluted and whole among them, because he does not consent with them in seeking their own things, since he blames and rebukes this; and he does not help them to sin, but helps toward this: that Christ may be preached more widely, and that, by those who hear and do, through those who do not do what they say, Christ may be believed, hoped in, and loved. For to such the same apostle gave the command, saying: ‘Do not be yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with iniquity? What fellowship has light with darkness? What agreement has Christ with Beliar? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are temples of the living God. For he says: I will dwell in them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst and be separate, says the Lord, and touch nothing unclean. And I will receive you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.’ Understanding these words carnally, these men have cut themselves up into little pieces by so many divisions in Africa alone. For they do not understand that no one is yoked with unbelievers except one who commits the sins of the pagans or favours those who commit such things; nor does anyone become a partner of iniquity except one who either does or approves of unjust things. And who has fellowship with darkness except through the darkness of his own consent, when he leaves Christ and follows Beliar? Who puts his part with unbelievers except one who becomes a sharer in their unbelief? For so he ceases to be a temple of God, and in no other way joins himself to idols. But those who are temples of the living God, and shine like lights in the world in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, holding the word of life, are not infected by anything they tolerate for unity, nor are they straitened, because God dwells and walks in them; and they go out from the midst of the bad and are separated, meanwhile, in heart, lest perhaps, wanting to do it by the sedition of schism, they be separated spiritually from the good before they are separated bodily from the bad.

2 Chr 19:2–3 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 22:1–38 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 1:15–18 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 6:14–18 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:15–16 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Jehoshaphat was rebuked for helping Ahab sin, not for living among sinners; Paul’s command to ‘come out and be separate’ means not consenting to sin, and the faithful separate from the bad in heart, not by schism.

  • Sources: 2 Chr 19:2–3; Ahab and Micaiah (1 Kgs 22; 2 Chr 18); Phil 2:21; Phil 1:15–18; 2 Cor 6:14–18; Phil 2:15–16. The run-together ‘dominusetimmundum’ is separated.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (words run together in the digital text): dominusetimmundum → dominus et immundum.

Topics: Donatism, Schism and unity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.37 (CSEL 51:91–93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.38CSEL 51:93–94

Quod ergo scriptum est deum dixisse: eos qui me clarificant clarificabo et qui me spernit spernetur, ipsi maxime nolunt intueri. quomodo enim clarificant deum, qui dicunt per orbem terrarum impleri non potuisse eius promissa quae promisit patribus nostris Abrahae, Isaac et Iacob, quae per prophetas tanto ante praenuntians exhibuit per unicum suum, qui factus est ei ex semine Dauid secundum carnem, ut in illo id est in semine Abrahae benedicerentur omnes gentes; qui dicunt ipsum dei filium frustra dixisse: sinite utraque crescere usque ad messem, quasi falsus fuerit aut ipse fefellerit, cum sola zizania per mundum creuerint, frumenta uero praeter Donati partem in toto terrarum orbe defecerint? quomodo ista sentientes clarificant dominum, cum scriptum sit: in latitudine gentis gloria regis, in deminutione autem populi contritio principis? aut quomodo non spernunt dominum, qui baptismum eius in eis, quorum causam non audierunt et de quibus iudicare nullo modo potuerunt, incredibili temeritate impietatis exsufflant et sibi audent arrogare quod dei est, a se damnatos in honoribus integris pro Donati pace recipiunt et a se inauditos contra pacem domini detestantur, baptisma in illis terrarum partibus per apostolos traditum perisse contendunt et per Felicianum aput Maximianistas traditum non perisse concedunt? iam uero quomodo catholici non clarificant dominum, qui promissa eius nullis hominum sceleribus quominus implerentur impediri potuisse confidunt, qui sacramenta eius tam debita ueneratione prosecuntur, ut ea si etiam ab indignis tractata fuerint, illis sua peruersitate damnatis illa intemerata sanctitate permanere demonstrent?

As for what is written that God said, ‘Those who glorify me I will glorify, and he who despises me shall be despised’, they least of all want to look at it. For how do they glorify God who say that his promises could not be fulfilled throughout the world, the promises he made to our fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, which, foretelling through the prophets so long before, he displayed through his only Son, who was made for him of the seed of David according to the flesh, so that in him, that is, in the seed of Abraham, all nations might be blessed; who say that the Son of God himself said in vain, ‘Let both grow until the harvest’, as if he were mistaken or had deceived, when only the weeds have grown through the world, while the wheat has failed in the whole world except for the party of Donatus? How do those who think such things glorify the Lord, when it is written, ‘In the breadth of a nation is the king’s glory, but in the dwindling of the people is the prince’s ruin’? Or how do they not despise the Lord, who with incredible rashness of impiety blow out his baptism in those whose case they have not heard and on whom they could in no way judge, and dare to claim for themselves what is God’s; who receive back men condemned by themselves, in their full rank, for the peace of Donatus, and detest men they have not heard, against the peace of the Lord; who contend that the baptism handed down through the apostles in those parts of the world has perished, and grant that the baptism handed down through Felicianus among the Maximianists has not perished? But now how do Catholics not glorify the Lord, who trust that his promises could not be prevented by any crimes of men from being fulfilled, who treat his sacraments with such due veneration that, even if they have been handled by the unworthy, they show that, while those men are condemned by their perversity, the sacraments remain in untouched holiness?

1 Sam 2:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 14:28 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Donatists do not glorify God, since they deny the fulfilment of his promises to the nations and despise his baptism; Catholics glorify him by trusting his promises and honouring his sacraments even when handled by the unworthy.

  • Sources: 1 Sam 2:30; Gen 22:18; Rom 1:3; Matt 13:30; Prov 14:28. ‘Blow out’ (exsufflant) refers to the rite of exsufflation (exorcism) the Donatists applied to converts. A split word (‘demi nutione’) is joined.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (word split in the digital text): demi nutione → deminutione.

Topics: Donatism, Rebaptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.38 (CSEL 51:93–94; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.39CSEL 51:94–95

Iterum, inquiunt, scriptum est: nolite communicare operibus infructuosis tenebrarum, magis autem et redarguite. quae enim fiunt ab ipsis latenter turpe est et dicere. iam ipsa uerba quemadmodum intellegenda sint diximus, quia non communicare est non consentire; quod propter ecclesiae disciplinam parum est, nisi etiam redarguantur, ut corrigi possint. sed haec salua pace facienda sunt et quantum admittit officium conseruandae unitatis, ne simul eradicetur et triticum.

‘Again’, they say, ‘it is written: Do not take part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even rebuke them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that are done by them in secret.’ We have already said how these very words are to be understood: that not to take part is not to consent; which, for the sake of the church’s discipline, is too little unless they are also rebuked, so that they can be corrected. But these things must be done with peace kept, and as far as the duty of preserving unity allows, lest the wheat be rooted up as well.

Eph 5:11–12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:29 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: ‘Do not take part in the works of darkness’ means not consenting and also rebuking for correction, but always within the peace of unity, lest the wheat be uprooted with the weeds.

  • Sources: Eph 5:11–12; Matt 13:29. A split word (‘communi- - care’) is joined.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (word split in the digital text): communi- - care → communicare.

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.39 (CSEL 51:94–95; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.40CSEL 51:95–96

Iterum ad Timotheum idem apostolus: ne, inquit, communicaueris peccatis alienis. te ipsum castum serua. docuit ex consequenti, quemadmodum quod prius dixit intellegendum sit. qui enim se ipsum castum seruat, non communicat peccatis alienis. si enim communicat consentit, si consentit corrumpitur, si corrumpitur castum se ipsum non seruat. sed sane tandem aliquando euigilauit Parmenianus et attendit quid diceret Tychonius, sed frustra; statim quippe amore sententiae suae contra ueritatem oculos clausit. ait enim: an numquid, frater carissime, non polluunt alios aliena peccata? et hoc est facinerosis non communicare, licet cum ipsis conuenias, eorum facta non facere. et tamen non totum dixit. parum est enim eorum facta non facere, nisi displiceant; parum est ut displiceant, nisi redarguantur. aliud est enim non facere, aliud non communicare id est consentire facientibus, aliud etiam redarguere. cur ergo ubi uidere coeperat statim se auertit et usque in finem noluit peruenire et uix trientem de toto posuit? an, sicut de populo fecerunt, etiam ueritatis sententiam praecidendam putauit? nos dicimus, quod, qui non facit malum nec facienti consentit et facientem arguit, firmus atque integer inter iniquos tamquam frumentum inter paleam conuersatur; ille autem tantummodo ait: (eorum facta non facere. et tamen hanc tertiam de tota sententia particulam quemadmodum refellat uideamus.

Again to Timothy the same apostle says: ‘Do not take part in the sins of others. Keep yourself chaste.’ He taught in what follows how what he said first is to be understood. For he who keeps himself chaste does not take part in the sins of others. For if he takes part, he consents; if he consents, he is corrupted; if he is corrupted, he does not keep himself chaste. But indeed at last Parmenian woke up and noticed what Tyconius was saying, but in vain; for at once, out of love for his own opinion, he shut his eyes against the truth. For he says: ‘Or is it, dearest brother, that the sins of others do not pollute others? And this is not taking part with criminals: though you meet with them, not doing their deeds.’ And yet he did not say the whole. For it is too little not to do their deeds unless they displease; it is too little that they displease unless they are rebuked. For not to do is one thing, not to take part, that is, not to consent to those who do, is another, and also to rebuke is another. Why, then, when he had begun to see, did he at once turn away and refuse to come to the end, and set down barely a third of the whole? Or did he think that, as they did with the people, the sentence of truth too should be cut off? We say that he who does not do evil, does not consent to one who does it, and rebukes one who does it, lives firm and whole among the wicked, like wheat among chaff; but he says only, ‘not doing their deeds’. And yet let us see how he refutes this third part of the whole sentence.

1 Tim 5:22 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: ‘Do not share in others’ sins; keep yourself chaste’ means not doing, not consenting to, and rebuking evil; Parmenian quoted Tyconius’s point that one need only not do the deeds of the wicked, a third of the truth, only to reject it.

  • Source: 1 Tim 5:22. The words quoted after ‘For he says’ appear to be Parmenian’s statement of Tyconius’s position (the attribution of the second sentence is uncertain).

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.40 (CSEL 51:95–96; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.41CSEL 51:96–97

Quod contra legem esse diuinam, inquit, nullus qui legem ueneratur ignorat. adhuc ista uerba communiter dici possunt. potest enim et alius dicere: (quod secundum legem esse diuinam nullus qui legem ueneratur ignorat. sed opus est probare, non dicere. attendamus ergo quemadmodum probet quid enim prodest, inquit, innocentiam custodisse, si cum reis mixtus es et obnoxius? sane, si ita est, non innocentiam custodisse non prodest, sed innocentia custodita non est. mixtus enim reis et obnoxius nisi per conscientiae maculatam consensionem nullus recte dici potest. qui uero implet quod scriptum est: iusto nihil placet iniquum, ubilibet eum uersari quaelibet necessitas cogat, misceri iniquitatibus non potest. uel quomodo, inquit, incorruptus poteris permanere qui corruptis sociaris? ita plane, si sociatur, id est si mali aliquid cum eis committit aut committentibus fauet; si autem neutrum facit, nullo modo sociatur. porro si addat tertium, ut non sit in uindicando piger, sed uel corripiat iustus in misericordia et arguat uel etiam, si eam personam gerit et ratio conseruandae pacis admittit, et coram omnibus peccantes arguat, ut ceteri timeant, remoueat etiam uel ab aliquo gradu honoris uel ab ipsa communione sacramentorum, et haec omnia cum dilectione corrigendi, non cum odio persequendi faciat, plenissimum officium non solum castissimae innocentiae, sed etiam diligentissimae seueritatis impleuit. ubi autem cetera impediuntur, illa duo semper retenta incorruptum castumque custodiunt, ut nec faciat malum nec approbet factum.

‘That this is against the divine law’, he says, ‘no one who reveres the law is unaware.’ So far these words can be said by either side. For another man too can say: ‘That this is in accordance with the divine law no one who reveres the law is unaware.’ But what is needed is to prove, not to say. Let us see, then, how he proves it. ‘For what does it profit’, he says, ‘to have kept innocence, if you are mixed with the guilty and liable with them?’ Certainly, if that is so, it is not that keeping innocence does not profit, but that innocence has not been kept. For no one can rightly be said to be mixed with the guilty and liable except through a consent that stains the conscience. But he who fulfils what is written, ‘Nothing unjust pleases the righteous man’, wherever any necessity compels him to live, cannot be mixed with iniquities. ‘Or how’, he says, ‘can you remain incorrupt, you who are associated with the corrupt?’ Plainly so, if he is associated, that is, if he commits something evil with them or favours those who commit it; but if he does neither, he is in no way associated. Further, if he adds a third thing, that he is not slack in punishing, but either the righteous man corrects in mercy and rebukes, or even, if he holds that office and the consideration of preserving peace allows, rebukes sinners before all, so that the rest may fear, and removes them either from some rank of honour or from communion in the sacraments itself, and does all this with the love of correcting, not the hatred of persecuting, he has fulfilled the fullest duty not only of the most chaste innocence but also of the most diligent severity. But where the other things are hindered, those two, always kept, guard him incorrupt and chaste: that he neither does evil nor approves it when done.

Ps 141:5 (140:5 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 5:20 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: One is ‘mixed with the guilty’ only by consent; the righteous man who neither does nor approves evil stays incorrupt anywhere, and where he can, he also corrects, rebukes, and removes sinners in love, as far as peace allows.

  • ‘Nothing unjust pleases the righteous man’ is close to Prov 12:21 in the Latin (‘nothing that happens to him will sadden the righteous’) but is not an exact text (unidentified). Other sources: Ps 141:5 (LXX and Vulgate 140:5); 1 Tim 5:20.

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.41 (CSEL 51:96–97; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.42CSEL 51:97–98

Sed tamen uideamus unde iste doceat quod affirmat. cum scriptum sit, inquit: modicum fermenti totam massam corrumpit. dixit hoc Parmenianus atque abiit nec ei nunc ostendi potest in parte Donati non solum modicum fermenti, sed multum ueneni ex illis ouis aspidum ruptis et praeualidis iam serpentibus pro Primiano damnatis et ad Primianum iterum reuocatis. sed correcti sunt, inquit. deo gratias. si uerum est, non inuideo. atque utinam perfecte id fiat. si enim a Maximianistis redire ad partem Donati nonnullus correctionis est gradus, quanto uerior perfectiorque correctio est ab ipsa parte Donati ad unitatem catholicam remeare! et Tychonius quidem multa dixit, (per) quae illis temporibus et, sicut interior nouerat, quam non modico sed multo fermento suo totam suam massam nollent fateri corruptam, qui totum orbem terrarum peccatis Afrorum fermentatum esse criminarentur. sed ego istos miror, si adhuc eis placet haec apostolica uerba sic intellegere, ita eos Optatum Gildonianum uelle defendere, ut nec modicum fermenti eum fuisse concedant. quodsi uel hoc concedunt, quam magnam putant esse massam suam, ut non potuerit tota corrumpi? aut si in eis solis corrupta est quibus placebat Optatus, experti discant intellegere quod legunt, quia in his est massa tota, ad quos pertinet quod dicitur totum siue bonum siue malum. ad eos autem pertinet qui consentiunt; ad eos autem qui non consentiunt omnino non pertinet, et ideo disciplina ecclesiastica corrigendum est, ne ad multos persuadendo perueniat. quod ubi fieri permittit ratio pacis et non fit, ipsa neglegentia culpam trahit et in periculo consentiendi est per desidiam corrigendi.

But still let us see from where he teaches what he affirms. ‘Since it is written’, he says, ‘A little leaven corrupts the whole lump.’ Parmenian said this and departed, and now it cannot be shown to him that in the party of Donatus there is not only a little leaven but much poison from those asps’ eggs that have hatched, and from the now very powerful serpents condemned on behalf of Primian and called back again to Primian. ‘But they have been corrected’, he says. Thanks be to God. If it is true, I do not begrudge it. And would that it were done perfectly! For if to return from the Maximianists to the party of Donatus is some degree of correction, how much truer and more perfect a correction it is to come back from the party of Donatus itself to Catholic unity! And Tyconius indeed said many things, by which, in those times and, as he knew from inside, how they would not confess that their whole lump had been corrupted by their own leaven, not a little but much, they who accused the whole world of being leavened by the sins of the Africans. But I wonder at these men, if they still like to understand these apostolic words in this way, that they want to defend Optatus the Gildonian so far as not to grant that he was even a little leaven. But if they grant even this, how great do they think their lump is, that the whole could not be corrupted? Or if it was corrupted only in those whom Optatus pleased, let them learn by experience to understand what they read: that the whole lump is in those to whom what is said as ‘whole’, whether good or bad, belongs. It belongs to those who consent; to those who do not consent it does not belong at all. And so it must be corrected by church discipline, lest by persuasion it reach many. Where the consideration of peace allows this to be done and it is not done, the negligence itself incurs guilt, and is in danger of consenting through sloth in correcting.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

1 Cor 5:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 5:9 (quotation, medium confidence) · Isa 59:5 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: ‘A little leaven leavens the whole lump’ condemns the Donatists themselves, who readmitted the Maximianists and kept Optatus; the lump corrupted is only those who consent, though negligence in discipline, where peace allows it, risks consent.

  • Sources: 1 Cor 5:6 (Gal 5:9); asps’ eggs (Isa 59:5), as the Council of Bagai called the Maximianists. The sentence about Tyconius is incomplete in the transmitted text (‘per’ is the editor’s supplement); its sense is that Tyconius showed the Donatists that they would not admit their own corruption by much leaven while accusing the world. ‘eorrupta’ is read ‘corrupta’.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): eorrupta → corrupta.

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.42 (CSEL 51:97–98; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-42). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.43CSEL 51:98

Ex qua regula et illud intellegendum quod consequenter opponit dicens esse scriptum: sit uobis legitimum aeternum in progenies uestras diuidere in medio sanctorum et inreligiosorum et in medio mundorum et immundorum. tanto enim quisque melius hoc facit, quanto magis in ecclesia proficit. cum enim creuisset herba et fructum fecisset, tunc apparuerunt zizania. et quamuis inter utrumque iam serui patris familias cognitione diuiderent atque distinguerent, iubentur ea tamen sinere crescere et hoc usque ad messem. sed haec hactenus. ea enim quae restant aliquanto diligentius ab alio exordio consideranda atque tractanda sunt.

By this rule is also to be understood what he next sets against us, saying that it is written: ‘Let it be an eternal statute for you throughout your generations to distinguish between the holy and the irreligious and between the clean and the unclean.’ For the more one advances in the church, the better he does this. For when the blade had grown and borne fruit, then the weeds appeared. And although the servants of the householder were already dividing and distinguishing between the two by knowledge, they are nevertheless commanded to let them grow, and that until the harvest. But so much for this. For what remains must be considered and treated somewhat more carefully, from another beginning.

Lev 10:9–10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:26–30 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The command to distinguish holy and unholy is fulfilled by knowledge and judgment, as the servants recognized the weeds, while still letting both grow until the harvest.

  • Sources: Lev 10:9–10; Matt 13:26–30.

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 2.43 (CSEL 51:98; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/2-43). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 3

3.1CSEL 51:98–99

Cum omnis pia ratio et modus ecclesiasticae disciplinae unitatem spiritus in uinculo pacis maxime debeat intueri, quod apostolus sufferendo inuicem praecepit custodiri et quo non custodito medicina uindictae non tantum superflua, sed etiam perniciosa et propterea iam nec medicina esse conuincitur, illi filii mali, qui non odio iniquitatum alienarum, sed studio contentionum suarum infirmas plebes iactantia sui nominis inretitas uel totas trahere uel certe diuidere affectant, superbia tumidi, peruicacia uaesani, calumniis insidiosi, seditionibus turbulenti, ne luce ueritatis carere ostendantur, umbram rigidae seueritatis obtendunt et, quae scripturis sanctis salua dilectionis sinceritate et custodita pacis unitate ad corrigenda fraterna uitia mordaciore curatione fieri praecepta sunt, ad sacrilegium schismatis et ad occasionem praecisionis usurpant dicentes: ecce ait apostolus: auferte malum a uobis ipsis. quod malum utique si integris, inquiunt, non obesset, nec iuberetur auferri.

Since every pious reasoning and measure of church discipline ought above all to look to the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace, which the apostle commanded to be kept by bearing with one another, and without which the medicine of punishment is shown to be not only superfluous but even harmful, and therefore no longer medicine at all; those bad sons, who, not from hatred of others’ iniquities but from zeal for their own contentions, aim either to drag off whole weak peoples, entangled by the boast of their name, or at least to divide them, swollen with pride, mad with obstinacy, insidious with slanders, turbulent with seditions, put forward the shadow of a rigid severity, lest they be shown to lack the light of truth; and the things that the holy Scriptures commanded to be done, with the sincerity of love kept safe and the unity of peace preserved, for correcting the faults of brothers by a sharper treatment, they misappropriate for the sacrilege of schism and as an occasion for cutting off, saying: ‘See, the apostle says: Remove the evil from among yourselves. And certainly’, they say, ‘if that evil did not harm the sound, it would not be commanded to be removed.’

Eph 4:2–3 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 5:13 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Church discipline must serve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace; the Donatists twist Paul’s ‘remove the evil from among yourselves’ into a warrant for schism.

  • Sources: Eph 4:2–3; 1 Cor 5:13.

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 3.1 (CSEL 51:98–99; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/3-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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3.2CSEL 51:99–100

Interim uideamus, ne forte non frustra non dixerit apostolus: auferte malos a congregatione uestra, sed: auferte malum a uobis ipsis, quia et, cum quisque impeditur ab ecclesiae congregatione malos homines separare, si a se ipso auferat malum, non eis corde miscetur atque ita spiritaliter non solum coniungitur bonis, sed etiam separatur a malis. sicut enim in illo loco ad Timotheum cum dixisset: neque communicaueris peccatis alienis, tamquam ille diceret fieri posse, ut aliquos malos ab ecclesiae congregatione separare non posset et ideo tolerare cogeretur, tamquam consilium dans, quemadmodum peccatis eorum non communicaret, te ipsum, inquit, castum custodi - non enim malis nisi malus misceri potest, bonus autem nullo modo, quamuis in una cum eis congregatione uersetur —, ita et hic ad Corinthios cum dixisset: quo enim mihi de his qui foris sunt iudicare? nonne de his qui intus sunt uos iudicatis?, ne forte turbarentur aliqua malorum numerositate sic permixta frumentis, ut sine illorum uexatione colligi separarique non posset, auferte, inquit, malum ex uobis ipsis, ut, si forte non possent auferre malos a congregatione sua, auferendo malum ex se ipsis, id est non cum eis peccando nec eis ad peccandum consentiendo aut fauendo, integerrimi inter eos et incorruptissimi uersarentur, quia per malum suum malis quisque consentit, si autem a se ipso auferat malum, alieno malo non est unde consentiat. quapropter quisquis etiam contempserit ecclesiae disciplinam, ut malos cum quibus non peccat et quibus non fauet desistat monere corripere arguere, etsi talem personam gerit et pax ecclesiae patitur etiam a sacramentorum participatione separare, non alieno malo peccat sed suo. ipsa quippe in tanta re neglegentia graue malum est. et ideo, sicut apostolus monet, si auferat malum a se ipso, non solum auferet audaciam committendi aut pestilentiam consentiendi, sed etiam pigritiam corrigendi et neglegentiam uindicandi adhibita prudentia et oboedientia in eo quod praecepit dominus, ne frumenta laedantur. ea quippe intentione quisquis inter triticum zizania tolerauerit auferendo malum a semet ipso, nec eis communicat et ea distinguit ac iudicat interim ad diem. non enim nouit quod cras futurum est. et ideo dilectione seruata non sine spe correctionis uindicandum est quidquid etiam cogit necessaria seueritas uindicari. quod ut satis appareat, totum ipsum epistulae apostolicae locum diligentius retractemus.

Meanwhile let us see whether perhaps it is not for nothing that the apostle did not say, ‘Remove the bad from your congregation’, but ‘Remove the evil from among yourselves’; because, even when someone is prevented from separating bad men from the congregation of the church, if he removes the evil from himself, he is not mixed with them in heart, and so he is spiritually not only joined to the good but also separated from the bad. For just as in that place to Timothy, when he had said, ‘Do not take part in the sins of others’, as if he were saying that it could happen that Timothy might be unable to separate some bad men from the congregation of the church and therefore be compelled to tolerate them, he said, as if giving advice on how not to take part in their sins, ‘Keep yourself chaste’ (for no one can be mixed with the bad except a bad man; the good man in no way, even though he lives with them in one congregation); so here too to the Corinthians, when he had said, ‘For what have I to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?’, lest perhaps they be troubled by some number of the bad so mixed with the wheat that it could not be gathered and separated without harm to it, he said, ‘Remove the evil from among yourselves’: so that, if perhaps they could not remove the bad from their congregation, by removing the evil from themselves, that is, by not sinning with them and not consenting to or favouring them in sinning, they might live among them wholly sound and incorrupt. For it is through his own evil that anyone consents to the bad; but if he removes the evil from himself, he has nothing by which to consent to another’s evil. Therefore, whoever has despised the church’s discipline so as to stop warning, correcting, and rebuking bad men with whom he does not sin and whom he does not favour, even if he holds such an office and the peace of the church permits him also to separate them from participation in the sacraments, sins not by another’s evil but by his own. For negligence in so great a matter is itself a grave evil. And so, as the apostle warns, if he removes the evil from himself, he will remove not only boldness in committing or the plague of consenting, but also laziness in correcting and negligence in punishing, using prudence and obedience in what the Lord commanded, lest the wheat be harmed. For whoever tolerates weeds among the wheat with this intention, removing the evil from himself, neither takes part with them, and distinguishes and judges them meanwhile, for the day. For he does not know what will be tomorrow. And so, with love kept, whatever a necessary severity compels to be punished must be punished not without hope of correction. That this may appear clearly enough, let us go over that whole passage of the apostle’s letter more carefully.

1 Cor 5:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 5:22 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 5:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:29–30 (allusion, high confidence) · Prov 27:1 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Paul says ‘remove the evil from yourselves’, not ‘remove the bad’, because one who cannot expel the bad separates from them by not sharing their evil; yet neglect of possible discipline is itself a sin.

  • Sources: 1 Cor 5:12–13; 1 Tim 5:22; Matt 13:29–30; ‘he does not know what will be tomorrow’ (cf. Prov 27:1; Jas 4:14). A stray dash is ignored.

Topics: Donatism, Church discipline and penance

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. ep. Parm. 3.2 (CSEL 51:99–100; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-epistulam-parmeniani/3-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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