Sermons to the People 359.1–361.2
Latin text: PL 38 (Latin text: Migne, PL 38, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/6: Sermons on Selected Lessons of the New Testament (R. G. MacMullen, ed., 1888).
Chapter 359
359.1PL 39:1570–1571
Prima lectio divinorum eloquiorum, de libro qui appellatur Ecclesiasticus, commendavit nobis tria quædam excellentia et consideratione dignissima, concordiam fratrum, et amorem proximorum, et virum ac mulierem sibi consentientes. Bona hæc sunt plane, jucunda et laudabilia in rebus humanis; sed in divinis rebus multo potentiora. Quis est enim qui non congaudet concordibus fratribus? Et quod dolendum est, in rebus humanis tam magna res rara est: res ab omnibus laudatur, a paucissimis custoditur. Beati qui in se ipsis amplectuntur, quod etiam in aliis laudare coguntur. Nulli fratres non laudant concordantes fratres. Et unde fratres concordes esse difficile est? Quia litigant de terra, quia volunt esse terra. Audivit enim ab initio peccator homo, Terra es, et in terram ibis. Unde discutiamus et perscrutemur vocem, quam justus debet audirc a contrario. Si enim recte dictum est peccatori, Terra es, et in terram ibis, recte dicitur justo, Cœlum es, et in cœlum ibis. Aut non sunt justi cœli, cum de Evangelistis apertissime dictum sit, Cœli enarrant gloriam Dei? Et quidem quia de ipsis dictum est. consequentia satis edocent. Et opera, inquit, manuum ejus annuntiat firmamentum. Quos dixit caelos, ipsos dixit firmamentum. Dies diei eructat verbum, et nox nocti indicat scientiam. Non sunt loquelæ, neque scrmones, quorum non audiantur voces eorum. Quæris quorum, et non invenis nisi coelorum. Dictum ergo de Apostolis, dictum de annuntiatoribus veritatis. Unde sequitur, in omnem terram exivit sonus eorum, et in fines orbis terræ verba eorum. Non sunt loquelæ, neque sermones, quorum non audiantur voces eorum. Quando in eos vcnit Spiritus sanctus, et cœpit Deus habitare caelum quod fecit de terra, locuti sunt, implente et donante Spiritu sancto, linguis omnium gentium. Inde dictum, Non sunt loquelæ, neque sermones, quorum non audiantur voces eorum. Et quia indc missi sunt ad prædicationem Evangelii per omnes gentes, In omnem terram exivit sonus eorum, et in fines orbis terrae verba eorum. Quorum? Coelorum, quibus recte dicitur, Cœlum es, et in coelum ibis; sicut recte peccatori, Terra es, et in terram ibis.
The first reading of the divine words, from the book called Ecclesiasticus, commended to us three excellent things most worthy of consideration: concord of brothers, love of neighbours, and a husband and wife in harmony with each other. These are plainly good things, pleasant and praiseworthy in human affairs; but in divine things much more powerful. For who does not rejoice with brothers in concord? And, what is to be lamented, in human affairs so great a thing is rare: the thing is praised by all, kept by very few. Blessed are those who embrace in themselves what they are compelled to praise even in others. No brothers fail to praise brothers in concord. And why is it hard for brothers to be in concord? Because they quarrel about earth, because they want to be earth. For sinful man heard from the beginning, “You are earth, and to earth you shall go.” So let us examine and search out the word that the just man ought to hear in contrast. For if it was rightly said to the sinner, “You are earth, and to earth you shall go,” it is rightly said to the just, “You are heaven, and to heaven you shall go.” Or are the just not heavens, since it is most plainly said of the evangelists, “The heavens tell the glory of God”? And indeed that it was said of them the sequel teaches well enough. “And the firmament,” it says, “announces the work of his hands.” Those he called heavens he called firmament. “Day to day pours forth the word, and night to night shows knowledge. There are no speeches or words whose voices are not heard.” You ask whose, and you find none but the heavens'. So it was said of the apostles, said of the announcers of the truth. Hence it follows: “Their sound has gone out into all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.” “There are no speeches or words whose voices are not heard.” When the Holy Spirit came upon them, and God began to dwell in the heaven he had made from earth, they spoke, the Holy Spirit filling and granting it, in the tongues of all nations. Hence it was said, “There are no speeches or words whose voices are not heard.” And because they were sent from there to preach the Gospel through all nations, “their sound has gone out into all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.” Whose? The heavens', to whom it is rightly said, “You are heaven, and to heaven you shall go,” as it is rightly said to the sinner, “You are earth, and to earth you shall go.”
Gen 3:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 19:1–4 (18:2-Ps Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 10:18 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Sirach commends concord of brothers, love of neighbours, and harmony of husband and wife; brothers quarrel because they love earth, but the just, like the apostles of Psalm 19, are heaven and go to heaven.
- The reading is Sir 25:1 (Vulgate 25:1–2).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): excellentia cl consideratione → excellentia et consideratione; rcs ab omnibus → res ab omnibus; non laudant concurdantes → non laudant concordantes; difficHe → difficile; dictum sil, Cœli → dictum sit, Cœli; consequentia salis edocent → consequentia satis edocent; ipsos dixit lirmamenlum → ipsos dixit firmamentum; audiantur voces corum. Quando → audiantur voces eorum. Quando; et coepil Deus → et cœpit Deus; imiplente → implente; genUum. lide dictum → gentium. Inde dictum; audiantur voces eurum, → audiantur voces eorum.; Cœlum cs, et in coelum ibis; sicut recte peccator!, → Cœlum es, et in coelum ibis; sicut recte peccatori,.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 25:1 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.1 (PL 39:1570–1571; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.2PL 39:1571
Fratres ergo si volunt esse concordes, non ament terram. Sed si volunt non amare terram, non sint terra. Quærant possessionem quæ dividi non potest, et semper concordes erunt. Unde inter fratres discordia unde perturbatio pietatis? unde unus uterus, et non unus animus, nisi dum curvatur anima eorum, et partem suam quisque respicit, et parti suæ opimandæ et exaggerandæ operam impendit, et in possessione sua vult habere unitatem, qui cum fratre suo possidet divisionem? Bona est ista possessio, cujus est? Nostra est. Magna possessio! Sic dici solet. Tota tua est, frater? Non; habeo hic consortem: sed si vult Deus, vendet mihi partem suam. Adulator respondet, Faciat Deus. Quid faciat Deus? Ut opprimatur vicinus, et partem suam vendat vicino. Faciat Deus: bene cogitas, compleat tibi Deus. Quoniam laudatur peccator in desideriis animæ suæ; et qui iniqua gerit, benedicitur. Quid tam iniquum quam velle ditescere alterius paupertate? Et tamen abundat hoc: qui iniqua gerit, benedicitur; et forte praevaluit, et forte pressit et oppressit, torsit et extorsit, non quemcumque consortem, sed forsitan fratrem. Melius est ut ego emam, quam extraneus. Et ille facile oppressus, si est justus, habet consolationem. Audiat Scripturam, quam modo audivit. Ille laborat inopia, frater ejus plenus est copia. Sed plenus est terra, et inanis justitiæ. Adverte terra, quid audiat ille pauper. Noli timere, cum dives factus fuerit homo, neque cum multiplicata fuerit gloria domus ejus: quoniam cum morietur, non accipiet ea. Tene tu pauper quod non dimittas moriens, et quod acquiras in aeternum vivens. Tene justitiam, non te poeniteat. Contristaris quia in terra pauper es tu? Pauper hic fuit qui creavit terram. Consolatur te Dominus Deus tuus, consolatur te Creator tuus, consolatur te Redemptor tuus. Consolatur te non avarus frater tuus. Dignatus est enim esse frater noster ille Dominus noster. Solus frater sine dubitatione fidissimus, cum quo concordia possidenda est. Dixi cum non avarum, et forte invenio avarum. Avarus est: sed nos vult habere, nos vult acquirere. Pro nobis tantum pretium dedit se ipsum: nihil ad hoc pretium addi potest. Dedit pretium se ipsum, et factus est Redemptor noster. Non enim sic se dedit pretium, ut nos inimicus dimitteret, et ipsum possideret. Dedit se morti, occidens mortem. Morte quippe sua mortem occidit, non morte occisus est; et morte occisa, liberavit nos a morte. Vivebat enim morientibus nobis mors, morietur viventibus nobis, quando ei dicetur, Ubi est, mors, contentio tua?
Brothers, then, if they want to be in concord, let them not love earth. But if they want not to love earth, let them not be earth. Let them seek a possession that cannot be divided, and they will always be in concord. Whence discord among brothers, whence the disturbance of family affection? Whence one womb and not one mind, except when their soul is bent down, and each looks to his share, and spends effort on fattening and enlarging his share, and wants to have unity in his own possession, who with his brother possesses division? “This is a fine property: whose is it?” “Ours.” “A great property!” So it is usually said. “Is it all yours, brother?” “No; I have a co-owner here: but if God wills, he will sell me his share.” The flatterer answers, “May God do it!” May God do what? That the neighbour be crushed and sell his share to his neighbour. “May God do it: you think well; may God fulfil it for you.” “For the sinner is praised in the desires of his soul; and he who does iniquity is blessed.” What is so iniquitous as to want to grow rich from another's poverty? And yet this abounds: he who does iniquity is blessed; and perhaps he has prevailed, and perhaps he has pressed and oppressed, twisted and extorted, not any co-owner but perhaps a brother. “It is better that I buy than a stranger.” And the one easily oppressed, if he is just, has consolation. Let him hear the Scripture which he has just heard. He labours in want; his brother is full of plenty. But full of earth, and empty of justice. Notice, earth, what that poor man hears: “Do not fear when a man has become rich, nor when the glory of his house has been multiplied: for when he dies, he will not take these things.” You, poor man, hold what you will not leave when dying, and what you will acquire living for ever. Hold justice; you will not regret it. Are you sad because you are poor on earth? He was poor here who created the earth. The Lord your God consoles you, your Creator consoles you, your Redeemer consoles you. Your brother who is not greedy consoles you. For our Lord deigned to be our brother. The only brother most faithful without doubt, with whom concord is to be possessed. I said he is not greedy, and perhaps I find him greedy. He is greedy: but he wants to have us, he wants to acquire us. For us he gave so great a price, himself: nothing can be added to this price. He gave himself as the price, and became our Redeemer. For he did not give himself as a price so that the enemy would let us go and possess him. He gave himself to death, killing death. For by his death he killed death; he was not killed by death; and having killed death, he freed us from death. For death was living while we were dying; it will die while we live, when it is said to it, “Where, death, is your struggle?”
Ps 10:3 (9:24 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 49:16–17 (48:17-Ps Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 8:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 2:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:55 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 2:14 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Brothers fall out because they love earthly property and covet each other's shares; the poor should hold to justice and take comfort in Christ, the poor brother who gave himself as our price and killed death.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; stray mark): Scd si volunt → Sed si volunt; possessionem qu:u dividi non potest, ct semper concordes crunt → possessionem quæ dividi non potest, et semper concordes erunt; parti suas opimandæ rt exaggerandæ → parti suæ opimandæ et exaggerandæ; possidct divisionem → possidet divisionem; Sic dici solot → Sic dici solet; desideriis animæ suas → desideriis animæ suæ; pressit cl oppressit → pressit et oppressit; ut cgo emam → ut ego emam; oppressus, Ii est justus → oppressus, si est justus; plenus cst copia → plenus est copia; inanis justitiæ?. Adverte → inanis justitiæ. Adverte; cum diues factus → cum dives factus; Pauper hic tuit qni creavit → Pauper hic fuit qui creavit; Dominus Dnus tuus → Dominus Deus tuus; consulatur tc Redempt r tuus → consolatur te Redemptor tuus; scd nos vult → sed nos vult; drdit se ipsutn: nihil ad hoc prelium → dedit se ipsum: nihil ad hoc pretium; Redemuptor noster → Redemptor noster; occisus est.; → occisus est;; mors, moriaur viventibus → mors, morietur viventibus.
Topics: Ethics, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.2 (PL 39:1571; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-2
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.3PL 39:1571–1572
Talis ergo frater interpellatus est a quodam fratre contra fratrem, inter quos non erat concordia propter terram, et ait illi: Domine, dic fratri meo, ut dividat mecum hæreditatem. Totam tulit, mihi partem meam non vult dare, contempsit me, audiat vel te. Quid pertinebat ad Dominum? Sicut cogitamus nos humiles humilia, reptantes in terra, constituti in hac vita, et neminem volentes contristari, et plerumquc inde gravius contristantes, quid diceremus? Veni, frater, redde fratri tuo partem suam. Non hoc dixit Dominus. Et quid illo justius? Quis talem judicem inveniat, quem interpellet contra avaritiam fratris sui? Nonne gaudebat ille homo tandem se invenisse magnum solatium? Magnum quoque adjutorium sine dubitatione sperabat, dicens tanto judici, Domine, dic fratri meo, ut dividat mecum hæreditatem. At ille quid dixit? O homo, quis me constituit divisorem hæreditatis inter vos? Repulit Dominus, non dedit quod petebatur, non concessit gratuitum beneficium. Quid magnum erat? Quid inde perdebat? quid in eo beneficio saltem laborabat? Non dedit. Ubi est, Omni petenti te, da? Non hoc egit ille, qui nobis vivendi præbuit exemplum. Quomodo nos id facturi sumus? Aut quomodo dabimus quod impendimus, si non damus beneficium ubi nihil impendimus, ubi nihil erogamus, ubi nihil amittimus? Non dedit Dominus hoc, nec tamen nihil dedit. Minus negavit, sed quod plus est donavit. Dixit manifeste, dixit, Omni petenti te, da. Quid, si aliquis petat a te, non dico quod inutile est dare, sed quod turpe est dare? Quid, si petat mulier aliqua, quod petiit mulier a Joseph? Quid, si petat vir aliquis, quod falsi seniores a Susanna petierunt? Etiam hic sequenda est illa tanquam generalis sententia, Omni petenti te, da? Absit. Faciemus ergo hic contra præceptum Domini? Imo faciamus secundum præceptum Domini, et mala petentibus non demus, nec contra istam sententiam faciemus. Dictum est enim, Omni petenti te, da. Non est dictum, Omnia petenti te da. Omni petenti te, da: prorsus da; etsi non quod petit, tu tamen aliquid da: malum petit, tu bona da. Fecit hoc Joseph. Non dedit quod petebat mulier impudica; et dedit tamen quod audire deberet, ne impudica esset exemplo suo: et ipse non incidit in foveam libidinis, et dedit consilium castitatis. Hoc enim respondit: Absit a me, ne hoc faciam domino meo, ut polluam torum ejus qui credidit mihi omnia in domo sua (Gen. XXXIX). Si servus ære emptus hanc fidem servavit domino, qualem debet conjux servare marito? Hoc erat admonere. Ego servus hoc non faciam domino meo: tu conjux debes hoc facere marito tuo? Dedit et Susanna, nec dimisit eas inanes, si impleri vellent consilio pudicitiæ. Non solum enim non consensit; sed et non tacuit quare non consensit. Si consentio, inquit, vobis, pereo Deo; si non consentio, non effugio manus vestras: melius autem est in manus vestras incidere, quam Deo perire (Dan. XIII). Quid est autem, Melius est in manus vestras incidere, quam Deo perire? Vos Deo peristis, qui talia quæritis. Ergo hanc regulam tenete. Date quando petimini, etsi non hoc quod petimini. Hoc fecit Dominus. Petebat ille, quid? Divisionem hæreditatis. Dedit Dominus, quid? Peremptionem cupiditatis. Quid petebat? quid accepit? Dic fratri meo, ut dividat mecum hæreditatem. Dic, homo, quis me constituit divisorem hæreditatis inter vos? Ego autem dico vobis, quid? Cavete ab omni cupiditate. Et dico quare. Forte enim dimidium hæreditatis ad hoc petis, ut ditescas. Audi: Hominis cujusdam divitis successit regio; successus magnos habuit, id est, multis fructibus fecundata est. Et cogitavit apud se dicens: Quid faciam, quo congregem fructus meos? Et diligenter cogitans, Inveni, inquit, quid faciam. Destruam veteres apothecas, faciam novas, implebo eas. Majores enim faciam, quam erant veteres. Et dicam animæ meæ: Habes multa bona; satiare, jucundare. Ait illi Deus: Stulte, qui valde tibi videris esse cordatus: nosti enim destruere vetera, et ædificare nova, et tu in vetustate ruinæ remansisti, qui vetera in te ipso destruere debuisti, ut jam terrena non saperes: Stulte, quid dixisti? cui dixisti? Animæ tuæ dixisti, Jucundare, habes multa bona. Hac nocte repetetur anima tua, cui talia promisisti. Quæ promisisti, cujus erunt? Noli ergo timere, cum dives factus fuerit homo; quia non, cum morietur, accipiet ea.
Such a brother, then, was appealed to by a certain brother against his brother, between whom there was no concord because of land, and he said to him: “Lord, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me. He has taken it all; he will not give me my share; he has despised me; let him at least listen to you.” What did it matter to the Lord? As we lowly ones think lowly things, crawling on the earth, set in this life, wanting no one to be saddened, and often saddening more gravely as a result, what would we say? “Come, brother, give your brother his share.” The Lord did not say this. And what is more just than he? Who could find such a judge to appeal to against his brother's greed? Was not that man glad to have found at last a great comfort? He hoped, beyond doubt, for great help too, saying to so great a judge, “Lord, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” But what did he say? “Man, who made me divider of the inheritance between you?” The Lord rebuffed him, did not give what was asked, did not grant a free favour. What great thing was it? What would he lose by it? What labour did that favour cost him? He did not give it. Where is “Give to everyone who asks you”? He who gave us an example of living did not do this. How shall we do it? Or how shall we give what costs us, if we do not give a favour where we spend nothing, pay out nothing, lose nothing? The Lord did not give this, yet he did not give nothing. He refused the lesser, but gave what is more. He said plainly, he said, “Give to everyone who asks you.” What if someone asks of you, I do not say what is useless to give, but what is shameful to give? What if some woman asks what the woman asked of Joseph? What if some man asks what the false elders asked of Susanna? Is that general saying, “Give to everyone who asks you,” to be followed here too? Far from it. Shall we then act against the Lord's command here? Rather, let us act according to the Lord's command, and not give evil things to those who ask, and we shall not act against that saying. For it was said, “Give to everyone who asks you.” It was not said, “Give everything to one who asks you.” “Give to everyone who asks you”: give, certainly; if not what he asks, still give something: he asks for evil, you give good. Joseph did this. He did not give what the unchaste woman asked; and yet he gave what she ought to hear, so that by his example she might not be unchaste: and he himself did not fall into the pit of lust, and gave the counsel of chastity. For he answered this: “Far be it from me to do this to my master, to defile the bed of him who has entrusted everything in his house to me.” If a slave bought with money kept this faith with his master, what faith ought a wife to keep with her husband? This was admonishing. “I, a slave, will not do this to my master: ought you, a wife, to do it to your husband?” Susanna too gave, and did not send them away empty, if they were willing to be filled with the counsel of chastity. For she not only did not consent; she also did not keep silent about why she did not consent. “If I consent to you,” she said, “I perish to God; if I do not consent, I do not escape your hands: but it is better to fall into your hands than to perish to God.” What is “It is better to fall into your hands than to perish to God”? You who ask such things have perished to God. So hold this rule. Give when you are asked, even if not what you are asked. This the Lord did. He asked—what? The division of the inheritance. The Lord gave—what? The destruction of greed. What was he asking? What did he receive? “Tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” “Say, man, who made me divider of the inheritance between you? But I say to you”—what? “Beware of all greed.” And I tell you why. For perhaps you ask for half the inheritance in order to grow rich. Hear: “The land of a certain rich man prospered”; it had great success, that is, it was made fruitful with many crops. “And he thought within himself, saying: What shall I do, where shall I gather my crops? And thinking carefully, I have found, he says, what to do. I will pull down the old barns, I will make new ones, I will fill them.” “For I will make them larger than the old ones were. And I will say to my soul: You have many goods; be filled, rejoice.” God said to him: “Fool”—you who think yourself very clever: for you know how to pull down the old and build the new, and you have remained in the oldness of ruin, you who ought to have pulled down the old things in yourself, so as no longer to savour earthly things—“Fool,” what have you said? To whom have you said it? To your soul you said, “Rejoice, you have many goods. This night your soul will be required of you,” the soul to whom you promised such things. “What you have promised, whose will they be?” So “do not fear when a man has become rich; because when he dies, he will not take these things.”
Luke 12:13–15 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 6:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:42 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 39:7–9 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:16–20 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 49:16–17 (48:17-Ps Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ refused to divide an inheritance between brothers but gave something better, a warning against greed; so “give to everyone who asks” means giving something good even when refusing what is asked, as Joseph and Susanna did.
- Augustine's text of the parable (Luke 12:16–20) is paraphrased with interjections; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings; OCR slip; OCR capital; OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference; OCR slips; stray mark): Dominus interpellatus ut fratri jubeat hæreditatem partiri, car facere renuit. Præceptum ut demus omni petenti, quomodo implendum. Talis ergo frater interpellatus est a quodam fratre eontra fratrem → Talis ergo frater interpellatus est a quodam fratre contra fratrem; contemuit me → contempsit me; neminem volentes * contristari → neminem volentes contristari; Et quid iilo justius? → Et quid illo justius?; ul dividat mecum hæreditatem. At ille quid dixit? U homo → ut dividat mecum hæreditatem. At ille quid dixit? O homo; Quid magruum erat? → Quid magnum erat?; Nun dedit. Ubi cst → Non dedit. Ubi est; Minus nrgavil → Minus negavit; DiXit manifeste → Dixit manifeste; turpe cst dare! → turpe est dare?; a Susanna ptlierunt → a Susanna petierunt; Omni petenti te, daf Absit → Omni petenti te, da? Absit; mala petentibus inn demus → mala petentibus non demus; inalum petit → malum petit; Hoc enim rcepondit → Hoc enim respondit; domino meo, tre polluam → domino meo, ut polluam; Si servus nere emptus → Si servus ære emptus; Si consenlio, inquit, vobis → Si consentio, inquit, vobis; metius autem est in manus restras → melius autem est in manus vestras; (Dun. XIII) → (Dan. XIII); in manus re stras incidere → in manus vestras incidere; etsi nou hoc quod pelimini. Hoc fecit Domiuus → etsi non hoc quod petimini. Hoc fecit Dominus; cupiditate '. Et dico → cupiditate. Et dico; Forlc enim → Forte enim; fecundata est '. Et → fecundata est. Et; Inveni, influit, quid → Inveni, inquit, quid; imp/ebo eas → implebo eas; quam crant vctercs → quam erant veteres; tibi videris a esse cordatus: nosti cnim destrucre → tibi videris esse cordatus: nosti enim destruere.
Extrabiblical texts: Sus 22-23 (Susanna [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.3 (PL 39:1571–1572; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-3
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.4PL 39:1572
Ecce quale consilium Dominus fratribus dedit dissidentibus, quo concordes essent, ut carerent cupiditate, et continuo implerentur veritate. Inveniamus ergo talem hæreditatem. Quamdiu loquimur de concordia terrenorum fratrum, quae rara est, quæ suspecta est, quæ difficilis est? Loquamur de illa fratrum concordia, quæ vera esse debet, ct potest. Fratres sint Christiani omnes, fratres sint fideles omnes, fratres sint nati ex Deo et ex visceribus matris Ecclesiæ per Spiritum sanctum: fratres sint, habeant et ipsi hæreditatem dandam, et non dividendam. Hæreditas eorum Deus ipse est. Cujus sunt ipsi hæreditas, ipse est vicissim eorum hæreditas. Quomodo sunt ipsi ejus hæreditas? Postula a me, et dabo tibi gentes hæreditatem tuam (Psal. II, 8). Quomodo est ille ipsorum hæreditas? Dominus pars hæreditatis meæ, et calicis mei. In hac hæreditate concordia custoditur: pro hac hæreditate non litigatur. Alia hæreditas litigando acquiritur: ista litigando amittitur. Nolentes homines hanc hæreditatem perdere, vitant litigare. Et quando forte videntur litigare, non litigant. Sed forte videntur litigare, aut putantur litigare, cum volunt fratribus consulere. Videte quam consors sit eorum litigatio, quam pacifica, quam benigna, quam justa, quam addis. Nam nos litigare videmur cum Donatistis: sed non litigamus. Ille enim litigat, qui adversario suo male vult; litigat ille qui adversarium suum vult detrimentum pati, se augmentum; illi aliquid decedere, sibi accedere. Non sic sumus nos. Scitis et vos, scitis qui extra unitatem litigatis; scitis et vos, qui ex divisione acquisiti estis: scitis quia ista lis non est talis lis, quia non est malevola, quia non tendit in detrimentum adversarii, sed magis in lucrum. Volebamus enim eos, cum quibus litigare videbamur, vel adhuc videmur, acquirere nobiscum; non perdere, ut nos acquiramus. Denique alia vox nostra est, quam fuit fratris illius, qui interpellavit Christum in terra ambulantem. Nam et nos interpellamus cum in hac causa in cœlo sedentem: et non dicimus, Domine, dic fratri meo, ut dividat mecum hæreditatem; sed, Dic fratri meo, ut teneat mecum hæreditatem.
See what counsel the Lord gave to brothers at odds, by which they might be in concord: that they should be free of greed, and at once be filled with truth. Let us find, then, such an inheritance. How long are we to speak of the concord of earthly brothers, which is rare, which is suspect, which is difficult? Let us speak of that concord of brothers which ought to be and can be true. Let all Christians be brothers, let all the faithful be brothers, let those born of God and of the womb of Mother Church through the Holy Spirit be brothers: let them be brothers, and let them too have an inheritance to be given, not to be divided. Their inheritance is God himself. Those whose inheritance they are, he in turn is their inheritance. How are they his inheritance? “Ask of me, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance.” How is he their inheritance? “The Lord is the portion of my inheritance and of my cup.” In this inheritance concord is kept: for this inheritance there is no lawsuit. Another inheritance is acquired by litigating: this one is lost by litigating. Men unwilling to lose this inheritance avoid litigating. And when perhaps they seem to litigate, they do not litigate. But perhaps they seem to litigate, or are thought to litigate, when they want to take care of their brothers. See how much fellow-feeling there is in their lawsuit, how peaceful, how kind, how just, how deep-felt. For we seem to litigate with the Donatists; but we do not litigate. For he litigates who wishes his adversary ill; he litigates who wants his adversary to suffer loss and himself gain; something to go from the other and come to himself. We are not like this. You know it too, you who litigate outside unity; you know it too, you who have been won from division: you know that this lawsuit is not that kind of lawsuit, because it is not malevolent, because it does not aim at the adversary's loss but rather at his gain. For we wanted to gain with us those with whom we seemed to litigate, or still seem to; not to lose them, so that we might gain. Indeed, our cry is different from that of the brother who appealed to Christ walking on earth. For we too appeal to him in this cause, seated in heaven: and we do not say, “Lord, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me,” but, “Tell my brother to hold the inheritance with me.”
Ps 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 16:5 (15:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:13 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:13 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christian brothers share an inheritance, God himself, which is lost by litigation; the Catholics' dispute with the Donatists is not a lawsuit for gain but an appeal to Christ that they hold the inheritance together.
- “Deep-felt” renders addis, probably an OCR slip; the intended word is uncertain.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slips and stray mark; OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference; OCR slips; stray letter; stray mark): Litigare quis censendus. Ecce quale consilium Dominus fratrihus dedit dissidentibus, quo concordes essent, ut carerent cupiditate, el conlinuo implerentur veritate. ■ Inveniamus → Ecce quale consilium Dominus fratribus dedit dissidentibus, quo concordes essent, ut carerent cupiditate, et continuo implerentur veritate. Inveniamus; quæ suspecla est → quæ suspecta est; fratres siut fideles → fratres sint fideles; hæreditatem dandam v, et → hæreditatem dandam, et; Hæreditas corum Deus → Hæreditas eorum Deus; (Psal. n, 8) → (Psal. II, 8); videntur litijare → videntur litigare; aut putantur liligarc → aut putantur litigare; qnam benigna → quam benigna; Nam nus litigare → Nam nos litigare; Ille enim litigat, qni adversario → Ille enim litigat, qui adversario; scitis qni extra unitatem litigatis; scilis et vos → scitis qui extra unitatem litigatis; scitis et vos; talis lis,. quia → talis lis, quia; tendit iti detrimentum → tendit in detrimentum; litigare vidcbamur → litigare videbamur; ut uos acquiramur → ut nos acquiramus; quam fuil fratris → quam fuit fratris; in terra antbulantem → in terra ambulantem; Domine, die fratri meo. ut dividat → Domine, dic fratri meo, ut dividat.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.4 (PL 39:1572; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.5PL 39:1572–1573
Quoniam hoc volumus et publica Gesta testantur: quoniam hoc voluerimus, indices sunt non tantum sermones, sed litteræ nostræ datæ ad illos. Episcopatum amatis? Nobiscum habete. In vobis nihil odimus, nihil detestamur, nihil exsecramur, nihil anathemamus, nisi humanum errorem. Humanum, diximus, detestamur errorem, non divinam veritatem: sed quod Dei habetis, agnoscimus; quod vestrum improbum habetis, corrigimus. Signum Domini mei, signum Imperatoris mei, characterem regis mei, in desertore agnosco; quæro, invenio, admoveo, accedo, apprehendo, duco, corrigo desertorem, non violo characterem. Si quis advertat, si quis attendat, hoc non est litigare, sed amare. Diximus posse in una Ecclesia, pacis causa, esse fratres concordes: speciosa enim res est concordia fratrum. Non posse enim duos esse episcopos. Diximus, ut ambo sedeant in una simplici basilica; ille in cathedra, ille ut peregrinus; ille in cathedra christiana, ille in hæretica quasi collega juxta sedeat: rursus ille in congregatione sua præsideat, vicissim ille in sua. Paenitentiam prædicatam esse in remissionem peccatorum per omnes gentes ab Apostolis incipientibus ab Jerusalem, diximus. Quid respondebis huic Ecclesiæ, quae est per omnes gentes ab Apostolis incipientibus ab Jerusalem ædificata? Diximus: Ponamus omnino malam habuerit causam Cæcilianus. Unus homo malam causam habens, duo homines, quinque, decem, præjudicabunt tot millibus fidelium toto orbe terrarum multiplici fecunditate diffusorum? Diximus ista. Credidit Abraham, et promissæ sunt ei omnes gentes: peccavit Caecilianus, et perierunt omnes gentes, ut plus valeat quod iniquitas commisit, quam quod veritas promisit? Dicta sunt hæc: leguntur. Omnino contra exempla divina, contra testimonia, quæ asserunt Ecclesiam toto orbe terrarum diffundi, cujus Ecclesiae in nomine Domini tenemus unitatem, nihil illi respondere potuerunt.
For we want this, and the public Records bear witness to it: that we wanted it, not only our sermons but also our letters given to them are evidence. Do you love the episcopate? Have it with us. In you we hate nothing, detest nothing, execrate nothing, anathematize nothing, except human error. Human error, we have said, we detest, not divine truth: but what of God's you have, we acknowledge; what of your own you have that is wrong, we correct. The sign of my Lord, the sign of my Emperor, the mark of my law I recognize in the deserter; I seek, I find, I approach, I come near, I seize, I lead, I correct the deserter; I do not violate the mark. If anyone notices, if anyone attends, this is not litigating but loving. We have said that brothers can be in concord in one Church for the sake of peace: for the concord of brothers is a beautiful thing. For there cannot be two bishops. We have said that both might sit in one basilica; one on the throne, the other as a visiting bishop; or one on the Christian throne, and the other who was on the heretical one sitting beside him as a colleague; or again one might preside in his congregation, and the other in turn in his. We have said that repentance for the remission of sins was preached to all nations, the apostles beginning from Jerusalem. What will you answer to this Church, which has been built among all nations, the apostles beginning from Jerusalem? We have said: let us suppose that Caecilian had an altogether bad case. Will one man having a bad case—two men, five, ten—prejudge so many thousands of the faithful spread over the whole world with manifold fruitfulness? We have said these things. Abraham believed, and all nations were promised to him: Caecilian sinned, and all nations perished, so that what iniquity committed is worth more than what truth promised? These things were said: they are read. Against the divine examples, against the testimonies that assert that the Church is spread throughout the whole world—that Church whose unity we hold in the name of the Lord—they could answer nothing at all.
Luke 24:47 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 12:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 15:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 133:1 (132:1 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The Catholics offered the Donatist bishops a share of the episcopate, rejecting only their error and recognizing their baptism; at the Conference the Donatists could answer nothing to the testimonies of a worldwide Church that does not stand or fall with Caecilian.
- The “public Records” (publica Gesta) are the acts of the Conference of Carthage (411). The soldier's mark (character) image expresses Augustine's view that Donatist baptism is valid and is not repeated.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (probable reading); OCR slips; footnote mark; stray mark): qnoniam hoc volucrimus → quoniam hoc voluerimus; nisi humanum crrorcm → nisi humanum errorem; characterem legis mei → characterem regis mei; corrigo dcsertorcm → corrigo desertorem; hoc non cst litigare → hoc non est litigare; Ecclesia, paris causa → Ecclesia, pacis causa; Non posse euim duos → Non posse enim duos; præsideat 2, → præsideat,; per onmes gentes ab Apostolis incipi. ntibus ab Jerusalem, dixinius → per omnes gentes ab Apostolis incipientibus ab Jerusalem, diximus; causam Cæcilianus 2. → causam Cæcilianus.; duo homincs → duo homines; fidelium loto orbe → fidelium toto orbe; pecca• vit Caecilianus → peccavit Caecilianus; testimonia, qu:c asserunt → testimonia, quæ asserunt; in nomine Donliui → in nomine Domini.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 25:1 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Heresy, Baptism, Church office
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.5 (PL 39:1572–1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.6PL 39:1573
Salva ergo causa Ecclesiæ, confirmata, et incommutabiliter fixa ac stabilita, tanquam supra fundamentum petrae, quam portæ inferorum non vincant: hac ergo salva, venimus et ad causam Caeciliani, jam securi quidquid ille inveniretur admisisse. Forte enim, si ut homo inveniretur in aliqua culpa, nos litigaturi eramus, ut propter culpam unius hominis damnandi aut rebaptizandi judicaremur? Et diximus, Salva causa Ecclesiæ, cui nihil præjudicat peccatum Cæciliani; nec justitia Caeciliani coronat Ecclesiam; nec culpa Caeciliani damnat Ecclesiam; videamus et ipsius causam qualis sit. Suscepimus eam discutiendam, sed tanquam fratris, non tanquam patris, aut matris. Pater nobis Deus est, mater nobis Ecclesia est: Cæcilianus frater fuit, aut frater est; si bonus, bonus frater; si malus, malus frater, tamen frater. Si invenerimus eum innocentem, jam vos ubi eritis, qui et in ipsa humana calumnia defecistis? Si autem inventus fuerit nocens, si inventus fuerit reus, nec sic victi sumus, quia unitatem Ecclesiæ, quæ invicta est, obtinemus. Inventus sit prorsus reus, hominem anathemo, Christi Ecclesiam non desero. Hoc fecimus, diximus: deinceps eum ad altare inter episcopos, quos fideles et innocentes credimus, non recitabimus. Hoc solum fecimus. Numquid propter Cæcilianum rebaptizaturi estis orbem terrarum? Hac securitate constituta et firmata, cœpit discuti causa Cæciliani. Inventus est innocens, inventus est a calumniantibus appetitus. Semel absens damnatus, præsens ter absolutus: damnatus a factione, absolutus ab ecclesiastica veritate. Lecta sunt hæc, probata sunt haec. Quæsitum utrum haberent quod contra dicerent. Consumptis omnibus tergiversationibus calumniarum suarum, aut ubi nihil contra evidentissima proferre documenta, nec contra ipsius innocentiam Cæciliani potuerunt, prolata sententia est adversus eos. Et tamen ipsi dicunt, Vicimus. Vincant, sed se, ut possideat eos Christus; vincat eos qui redemit eos.
So, the cause of the Church being safe, confirmed, and unchangeably fixed and established as on the foundation of the rock, which the gates of hell do not overcome: with this safe, we came also to the case of Caecilian, already secure whatever he might be found to have done. For if, as a man, he were found in some fault, were we going to go to law so as to be judged worthy of condemnation or rebaptism because of the fault of one man? And we said: the cause of the Church being safe, which the sin of Caecilian in no way prejudices—neither does Caecilian's justice crown the Church, nor does Caecilian's fault condemn the Church—let us see what his case is like too. We took it up for discussion, but as the case of a brother, not of a father or mother. God is our Father, the Church is our mother: Caecilian was a brother, or is a brother; if good, a good brother; if bad, a bad brother, yet a brother. If we find him innocent, where will you be then, who have failed even in that human slander? But if he is found guilty, if he is found culpable, not even so are we defeated, because we hold the unity of the Church, which is undefeated. Let him be found guilty outright: I anathematize the man, I do not desert the Church of Christ. This we did, this we said: “From now on we will not recite him at the altar among the bishops whom we believe faithful and innocent.” This only we did. Will you rebaptize the whole world because of Caecilian? With this security established and confirmed, the case of Caecilian began to be discussed. He was found innocent; he was found to have been attacked by slanderers. Once condemned in his absence, three times acquitted in his presence: condemned by a faction, acquitted by the truth of the Church. These things were read, these things were proved. It was asked whether they had anything to say against them. When all the evasions of their slanders had been used up, and they could bring forward nothing against the most evident documents nor against the innocence of Caecilian himself, sentence was pronounced against them. And yet they say, “We have won.” Let them win—but over themselves, so that Christ may possess them; let him win them who redeemed them.
Matt 16:18 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: With the Church's cause secured independently of any individual, the Conference examined Caecilian's case and found him innocent, acquitted three times; the sentence went against the Donatists, though they claim victory.
- Caecilian was condemned in his absence by a Numidian council (312) and acquitted at Rome (313), Arles (314), and by Constantine (316).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slips; joined words): Caecilianus inventus innocens. Salva ergo → Salva ergo; Forte cnim, si ut homo → Forte enim, si ut homo; qualis siL Suscepimus → qualis sit. Suscepimus; Pater nohis Deus est → Pater nobis Deus est; Ecclesiam uon desero → Ecclesiam non desero; ad altarc inter episcopos → ad altare inter episcopos; rcbaptizaturi estis → rebaptizaturi estis; constituta etfirmata → constituta et firmata; prasens ter absolutus: damnatus a faclione → præsens ter absolutus: damnatus a factione.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.6 (PL 39:1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.7PL 39:1573
Et tamen de multis gaudemus. Multi eorum fructuose victi sunt, quia nec victi sunt. Error humanus victus est, homo salvatus est. Nam medicus non contendit cum aegroto; et si ægrotus facit cum medico, vincitur febris, et sanatur ægrotus. Nam hoc intendit medicus, vincere: hoc intendit et febris, vincere. Positus est quasi in medio aegrotus. Si vicerit medicus, salvus est ægrotus: si vicerit febris, perditur aegrotus. In contentione ergo nostra contendebat medicus pro salute, pro febre contendebat ægrotus. Qui animadverterunt medici consilium, vicerunt, febrem superaverunt. Habemus eos sanos et gaudentes nobiscum in Ecclesia. Blasphemabant nos antea, quia fratres nos non agnoscebant: febris enim mentem turbaverat. Nos tamen illos et detestantes nos, et sævientes in nos amamus, et saevientibus ægrotis serviebamus. Resistebamus, contendebamus, et quasi litigabamus; et tamen amabamus. Molesti enim sunt omnes qui talibus languentibus serviunt; sed ad salutem molesti sunt.
And yet we rejoice over many. Many of them were fruitfully defeated, because they were not even defeated. Human error was defeated; the man was saved. For the doctor does not contend with the sick man; and if the sick man sides with the doctor, the fever is overcome and the sick man is healed. For the doctor aims at this, to win; the fever too aims at this, to win. The sick man is placed as it were in the middle. If the doctor wins, the sick man is saved; if the fever wins, the sick man is lost. In our contest, then, the doctor contended for health, the sick man contended for the fever. Those who heeded the doctor's counsel won; they overcame the fever. We have them healthy and rejoicing with us in the Church. They blasphemed us before, because they did not recognize us as brothers: for the fever had disturbed their mind. Yet we loved them, both detesting us and raging against us, and we served the raging sick. We resisted, we contended, and as it were we litigated; and yet we loved. For all who serve such sick people are troublesome; but troublesome for their health.
Notes and citation
Summary: Many Donatists, defeated only in their error, were healed like patients siding with the doctor against the fever, and now rejoice in the Church; the Catholics loved them even when they raged.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; OCR slips (probable reading); footnote mark and OCR slip): Mulli eorum fructuose → Multi eorum fructuose; Error bumanus → Error humanus; medicus non 1 contundit cum aegroto → medicus non contendit cum aegroto; vincitur febris, ct sanatur → vincitur febris, et sanatur; hoc inteudit medicus → hoc intendit medicus; quasi in mcdio aegrotus. Si viccrit medicus, salvus est ægrotus: si viccrit febris, In odetur aegrotus. in contentione → quasi in medio aegrotus. Si vicerit medicus, salvus est ægrotus: si vicerit febris, perditur aegrotus. In contentione; fcbrem superaverunt → febrem superaverunt; menlem turbavcrat → mentem turbaverat; servicbamus → serviebamus; Molesti enim suut → Molesti enim sunt.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.7 (PL 39:1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-7
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.8PL 39:1573
Invenimus autem homines aliquando pigros dicentes, Verum est, domine, verum est; non est quid dicere. Quid ergo? Veni, age. Pater meus ibi est mortuus, mater mea ibi sepulta. Mortuum nominasti et sepultum. Vivis, adhuc est cum quo loqui. Parentes tui christiani fuerunt in parte Donati: parentes eorum forte et ipsi christiani, avi aut proavi certe pagani. Qui ergo primi facti sunt christiani, cum extulissent parentes suos paganos, numquid contra veritatem frigidi fuerunt? numquid auctoritatem mortuorum parentum secuti sunt, et non potius mortuis parentibus vivum Christum praetulerunt? Si ergo hic vera unitas est, extra quam necesse est in æternum moriaris, quare mortuos parentes tuos sequi vis, mortuos tibi et Deo? Quid dicis? responde. Verum dicis, non est quid dicere. Quid vis faciam? Consuetudo nescio quæ tenet sibi homines tales. Lethargici sunt, contrario morbo laborant, dormiendo morituri sunt. Alii phrenetici sunt, molesti sunt. Nam etsi moriturus est lethargicus, vel servienti sibi non est molestus. Phrenetici molesti sunt, qui mentem perdiderunt, et insani atque furiosi armati vagantur hac atque illac, quaerentes quos occidant, quos excæcent. Nova enim nobis nuntiata sunt, cuidam presbytero nostro linguam exsecuerunt. Isti phrenetici sunt. Exercenda est charitas, amandi et ipsi. Multi correcti fleverunt, multi correcti: nos novimus, ad nos venerunt de numero ipsorum furiosorum. Flent quotidie præterita sua, nec satiantur lacrymis attendentes eorum furorem, qui non digesta ebrietate vanitatis adhuc saeviunt. Ergo quid facimus? Talibus servire charitas cogit. Et quamvis molesti sumus utrique generi, et lethargicum excitando, et phreneticum ligando, ambos tamen amamus.
But we sometimes find lazy people saying, “It is true, sir, it is true; there is nothing to say.” “What then? Come, act.” “My father died there, my mother is buried there.” You have named one dead and buried. You are alive; there is still someone to talk with. Your parents were Christians on the side of Donatus: their parents perhaps were Christians too, your grandparents or great-grandparents certainly pagans. Those, then, who first became Christians, when they had buried their pagan parents, were they cold towards the truth? Did they follow the authority of their dead parents, and not rather prefer the living Christ to their dead parents? If, then, here is true unity, outside of which you must die for ever, why do you want to follow your dead parents, dead to you and to God? What do you say? Answer. “You say what is true; there is nothing to say.” “What do you want me to do?” Some kind of custom holds such people fast. They are lethargic; they suffer from the opposite disease; they will die sleeping. Others are frantic; they are troublesome. For even if the lethargic man is going to die, he is not troublesome even to the one serving him. The frantic are troublesome, who have lost their minds, and, mad and raging, roam armed here and there, seeking whom to kill, whom to blind. For new things have been announced to us: they cut out the tongue of one of our presbyters. These are frantic. Love must be exercised; even they are to be loved. Many who have been corrected have wept, many have been corrected: we know them; they have come to us from the number of those very madmen. They weep daily over their past, and cannot have their fill of tears when they see the madness of those who, not having slept off the drunkenness of vanity, still rage. What, then, do we do? Love compels us to serve such people. And though we are troublesome to both kinds, both by waking the lethargic and by binding the frantic, we love both.
Matt 8:21–22 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Some Donatists admit the truth but stay out of custom and loyalty to dead parents, like lethargic patients; others, like the frantic, commit violence such as cutting out a Catholic presbyter's tongue; love must serve both.
- The violence of the Circumcellions against Catholic clergy is reported here; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): dicenles, Verum est → dicentes, Verum est; Pater meu. ibi est mortuus → Pater meus ibi est mortuus; Mortuum nominasti ct sepultum → Mortuum nominasti et sepultum; forte et ipsi chrisliani → forte et ipsi christiani; Qui ergo prinii facti suut → Qui ergo primi facti sunt; necesse est in alternum moriaris → necesse est in æternum moriaris; Quid vis faciam i Consuetudo → Quid vis faciam? Consuetudo; dormicndo morituri → dormiendo morituri; moriturus cst lethargicus → moriturus est lethargicus; Nova enini nubis nuntiata → Nova enim nobis nuntiata; linguam exsecucrunt → linguam exsecuerunt; Excercenda est charitas → Exercenda est charitas; de nuinero ipsorum → de numero ipsorum.
Topics: Heresy, Persecution
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.8 (PL 39:1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
359.9PL 39:1573–1574
Bona res concordia fratrum; sed videte ubi: in Christo Christianorum. Et amor proximorum. Quid, si adhuc nondum est frater in Christo? Quia homo, proximus est; ames et ipsum, ut lucreris et ipsum. Si ergo concordes cum fratre christiano, ames autem proximum, etiam cum quo modo concordia non est, quia nondum in Christo frater est, quia nondum in Christo renatus est, nondum Christi sacramenta novit; paganus est, Judæus est; est tamen proximus, quia homo est: si amas et ipsum, accessisti et ad aliam dilectionem alio dono, et sic sunt in te duo, Concordia fratrum, et amor proximorum. Ex his omnibus concordiam tenentibus cum fratribus et amantibus proximum, constat Ecclesia devota Christo, et subdita viro, ut fiat tertium, Vir et mulier sibi consentientes (Eccli. XXV, 2). Unde admonemus Charitatem vestram, et vos exhortamur in Domino, præsentia contemnatis, fratres mei, quæ non vobiscum moriendo portatis: caveatis peccata, caveatis iniquitates, caveatis sæculares cupiditates. Tunc enim est fructus noster in nobis integer, et merces nostra apud Dominum plena gaudiorum. Nam etsi dicimus quod dicendum est, etsi prædicamus quod prædicandum est, et solvimus nos apud Dominum in conspectu Domini, quia non tacuimus quod timemus, non tacuimus quod amamus, ut super quem venerit gladius vindictae dominicæ, quid speculatori imputet non inveniat: tamen nolumus mercedem nostram securam esse vobis perditis, sed vobis inventis. Nam et apostolus Paulus securus erat de mercede sua, et tamen quid ait populo? Nunc vivimus, si vos statis in Domino (I Thess. III, 8). Loquor vobis et Charitati vestræ, secundum jussionem Domini, patres et fratres. Loquor etiam pro fratre meo episcopo vestro, cujus gaudium esse debetis, obediendo Domino Deo nostro. Certe in nomine Dei facta est vobis hæc ecclesia opera ipsius, per fidelium fratrum collationes beneficas, misericordes, devotas. Facta est vobis hæc ecclesia: sed vos magis estis Ecclesia. Facta est vobis, quo corpora vestra intrent: sed mentes vestræ debent esse, quo Deus intret. Honorastis episcopum vestrum, ut hanc basilicam Florentiam vocare velletis; sed Florentia ejus vos estis. Nam sic dicit Apostolus: Gaudium et corona mea vos estis in Domino. Quidquid est in sæculo, vanescit, transit. Vita ista quid est, nisi quod Psalmus dixit: Mane sicut herba transiet, mane floriet et præteriet: vespere decidet, durescit et arescit? Hoc est omnis caro. Ideo Christus, ideo nova vita, ideo spes aeterna, ideo consolatio immortalitatis promissa, et in Domini carne jam reddita. A nobis enim assumpta est illa caro, quæ jam immortalis est, et nobis quod in se implevit, ostendit. Propter nos enim carnem habuit. Nam propter se, In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Quare carnem et sanguinem? ubi in Verbo? Quia vere nobis compati voluit, et nos redimere, induit se forma servi, et descendit qui hic erat, ut appareret qui non aberat; et voluit fieri homo qui fecit hominem, creari de matre, qui creavit matrem. Ascendit usque in crucem, mortuus est, et ostendit nobis quod noveramus, nasci et mori. Implevit in se humilis hæc vetera nostra usitata et nota. Nasci et mori noveramus: resurgere et in æternum vivere non noveramus. Duo ergo nostra vetera humilis assumpsit: duo alia magna et nova excelsus implevit. Resuscitavit carnem, levavit in coelum carnem, sedet ad dexteram Patris. Caput nostrum esse voluit, caput pro membris clamavit: quia et cum hic esset, dixit, Pater, volo ut ubi ego sum, ibi sint et isti mecum (Joan. XVII, 24). Speremus hoc et de carne nostra, resuscitationem, commutationem, incorruptionem, immortalitatem, æternam mansionem: et agamus ut perveniamus. Hæc erit Florentia, vera Florentia.
Concord of brothers is a good thing; but see where: in Christ, the concord of Christians. And love of neighbours. What if he is not yet a brother in Christ? Because he is a man, he is a neighbour; love him too, that you may gain him too. If, then, you are in concord with your Christian brother, and love your neighbour too, even one with whom there is as yet no concord, because he is not yet a brother in Christ, because he is not yet reborn in Christ, does not yet know the sacraments of Christ; he is a pagan, he is a Jew; yet he is a neighbour, because he is a man: if you love him too, you have come to another love by another gift, and so there are two things in you: concord of brothers and love of neighbours. From all these who hold concord with their brothers and love their neighbour is made up the Church devoted to Christ and subject to her husband, so that the third may come about: husband and wife in harmony with each other. So we admonish your Charity, and exhort you in the Lord, my brothers, to despise the present things that you do not carry with you in dying: beware of sins, beware of iniquities, beware of worldly desires. For then our fruit in us is whole, and our reward with the Lord full of joys. For even if we say what must be said, even if we preach what must be preached, and acquit ourselves before the Lord in the sight of the Lord, because we have not kept silent about what we fear, have not kept silent about what we love, so that the one on whom the sword of the Lord's vengeance comes may find nothing to charge to the watchman: still we do not want our reward to be secure with you lost, but with you found. For the apostle Paul too was secure about his reward, and yet what does he say to the people? “Now we live, if you stand in the Lord.” I speak to you and to your Charity, according to the Lord's command, fathers and brothers. I speak also for my brother your bishop, whose joy you ought to be, by obeying the Lord our God. Certainly in God's name this church was built for you by his work, through the beneficent, merciful, devout contributions of faithful brothers. This church has been built for you: but you are more the Church. It was built for you, for your bodies to enter: but your minds ought to be where God enters. You have honoured your bishop by wanting to call this basilica Florentia; but you are his Florentia. For so the apostle says: “You are my joy and crown in the Lord.” Whatever is in the world vanishes, passes. What is this life, except what the psalm said: “In the morning it will pass like grass; in the morning it will flower and pass; in the evening it will fall, harden and wither”? This is all flesh. Therefore Christ, therefore new life, therefore eternal hope, therefore the consolation of immortality promised, and already rendered in the Lord's flesh. For that flesh, which is now immortal, was taken from us, and showed us what he fulfilled in himself. For he had flesh for our sake. For for his own sake, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Why flesh and blood, where was it in the Word? Because he truly wanted to suffer with us and redeem us, he put on the form of a servant, and he who was here came down, so that he who was not absent might appear; and he who made man wanted to become man, to be created from a mother, he who created his mother. He went up even to the cross, he died, and showed us what we knew, to be born and to die. In himself, humble, he fulfilled these old, customary and known things of ours. To be born and to die we knew: to rise again and live for ever we did not know. So, humble, he took on two old things of ours; exalted, he fulfilled two others, great and new. He raised his flesh, he lifted his flesh into heaven, he sits at the right hand of the Father. He wanted to be our head; the head cried out for the members: for even when he was here he said, “Father, I want that where I am, these too may be with me.” Let us hope this for our flesh too: resurrection, change, incorruption, immortality, an eternal dwelling: and let us act so as to arrive. This will be Florentia, the true Florentia.
Eph 5:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ezek 33:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Thess 3:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 4:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 90:5–6 (89:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 40:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7–8 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:24 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:53 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 3:16 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Concord among Christians, love of every neighbour, and the Church's union with Christ answer Sirach's three goods; Augustine urges the congregation of the new basilica Florentia to be their bishop's true Florentia and to hope for the resurrection Christ showed in his flesh.
- The basilica named Florentia, after its bishop Florentius, has not been securely located; the sermon was preached outside Hippo. The Sirach reading is Sir 25:1 (Vulgate 25:2).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR capital; OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference; OCR slips; joined words and OCR slip; split word): etiam cun! quo modo → etiam cum quo modo; alio dono, ei sic sunt → alio dono, et sic sunt; concordiam tcnentibus → concordiam tenentibus; subdita viru, → subdita viro,; ( Eccli. xxv, '2). Uude admonemus → (Eccli. XXV, 2). Unde admonemus; Tunc cnim est fructus → Tunc enim est fructus; apud Domiuum plena → apud Dominum plena; venerit gla. dius → venerit gladius; mercedem nostram se. curam → mercedem nostram securam; ( I Thess. tu, 8) → (I Thess. III, 8); facta est vobis h:rc ecclesia → facta est vobis hæc ecclesia; collationes Ireneficas → collationes beneficas; Facia est vobis → Facta est vobis; tranSiet, mane floriet → transiet, mane floriet; IdeoChristus, idco nova vita → Ideo Christus, ideo nova vita; quæ jam immortalis cst → quæ jam immortalis est; Quare carnem et sanguincm: ubi in Verbo? → Quare carnem et sanguinem? ubi in Verbo?; vere nobis Compati voluit → vere nobis compati voluit; induit sc forma servi, et desCendit → induit se forma servi, et descendit; qui non aberat; cl voluit → qui non aberat; et voluit; mortuus est, Ct ostendit → mortuus est, et ostendit; humilis h;cc vetera → humilis hæc vetera; Rcsuscitavit carnem → Resuscitavit carnem; ibi siut et isti mecum (Joan. xvu, 24) → ibi sint et isti mecum (Joan. XVII, 24); Hæc cril Florentia → Hæc erit Florentia.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 25:1 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Marriage, Christology, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 359.9 (PL 39:1573–1574; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/359-9
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
Chapter 360
360.1PL 39:1574–1575
Deo gratias, fratres, congratulamini fratri vestro, qui mortuus erat et revixit, perierat et inventus est. Gratias patientiæ et misericordiæ Domini Dei nostri: patientiæ, quia sustinuit tardantem; misericordiae, quia suscipere dignatus est redeuntem. Hæc est vinea, ubi non operabar, et vires meas in aliena consumpseram. O vinea dilecta Domino meo, non solum labor meus nihil tibi proderat, verum eliam contra te inimico tuo serviebam. Magno sudore spargebam, quando tibi non colligebam. Gratias plantatori tuo, apud quem non manet merces operariorum eliam hora novissima vocatorum. Serus advenio, sed denarium non despero. Qui prius fui blasphemus, et persecutor, et injuriosus adversum te: sed misericordiam consecutus sum, quia ignorans feci. Tenebam enim verba parentum meorum, non Patriarcharum, non Prophetarum, non Apostolorum; sed parentum carnis meæ. Non acquievi carni et sanguini; sed acquievi superatus veritati, et requievi redditus unitati. Nunquid non easdem Scripturas legebam, quas et nunc lego? Sed etiam ille doctor Gentium vas electionis, ex Saulo Paulus, ex elato minimus, ex prædone pastor, ex lupo aries, Hebræus erat ex Hebræis, secundum legem Pharisæus (Philipp. III, 5, 6), ad pedes Gamalielis doctoris legem eruditus: et tamen Christum, quem legebat in Prophetis, nec sedere noverat in coelis, nec coli permittebat in terris. Fidem passionis et resurrectionis ejus nesciens ore cantabat, et sæviens errore vastabat. Secundum Prophetas, in quibus natus erat et creverat, jam Christus surgens a mortuis sedebat in cœlo; et ille adhuc in parentum suorum cæcabatur mendacio, quia eum discipuli ejus furati fuerant de sepulcro. Sic et ego de Ecclesia catholica toto orbe diffusa circumtundebar divinarum vocibus Litterarum; et me surdum faciebant a parentibus intentata falsa crimina traditurum. Non me Pauli meritis comparo, sed peccatis. Etiamsi tam bonus esse non merui, non tamen sine medicina correptionis tam malus fui. Nee ille sponsum agnoscebat in Libris quos legebat, nec ego sponsam. Qui revelavit illi de Christi clarificatione quod scriptum est, Exaltare super coelos, Deus; ipse revelavit mihi de Ecclesiæ effusione quod sequitur, Super omnem terram gloria tua (Psal. CVII, 6). Utraque testimonia aperta sunt videntibus, sed clausa cæcis. Illis oculos aperuit Baptismus Christi, mihi pax Christi. Illum lavacrum aquæ sanctæ reddidit novum: meorum autem charitas cooperuit multitudinem peccatorum.
Thanks be to God, brothers; congratulate your brother, who was dead and has come back to life, was lost and is found. Thanks to the patience and mercy of the Lord our God: to his patience, because he bore with one who delayed; to his mercy, because he deigned to receive one returning. This is the vineyard where I did not work, and I had spent my strength in another's. O vineyard beloved of my Lord, not only did my labour profit you nothing, but I even served your enemy against you. With great sweat I scattered, when I did not gather for you. Thanks to your planter, with whom the wage of the labourers is not withheld even for those called at the last hour. I come late, but I do not despair of the denarius. I who was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and insolent against you: but I obtained mercy, because I acted in ignorance. For I held the words of my parents, not of the patriarchs, not of the prophets, not of the apostles, but of the parents of my flesh. I did not give in to flesh and blood; but I gave in, overcome by the truth, and I came to rest, restored to unity. Did I not read the same Scriptures that I read now? But that teacher of the Gentiles too, the vessel of election, from Saul Paul, from proud least, from robber shepherd, from wolf ram, was a Hebrew of Hebrews, as to the law a Pharisee, instructed in the law at the feet of the teacher Gamaliel: and yet Christ, whom he read in the prophets, he neither knew to be seated in heaven nor allowed to be worshipped on earth. Not knowing it, he sang with his mouth the faith of his passion and resurrection, and raging in error he laid it waste. According to the prophets, in whom he was born and grew up, Christ, rising from the dead, was already seated in heaven; and he was still blinded by the lie of his elders, that his disciples had stolen him from the tomb. So I too was surrounded concerning the Catholic Church spread through the whole world by the voices of the divine Letters; and the false charges of handing over the Scriptures, levelled by my elders, made me deaf. I do not compare myself with Paul's merits, but with his sins. Even if I did not deserve to be so good, yet I was not so bad without the medicine of correction. He did not recognize the bridegroom in the Books he read, nor I the bride. He who revealed to him about the glorification of Christ what is written, “Be exalted above the heavens, O God,” himself revealed to me about the spreading of the Church what follows, “Your glory over all the earth.” Both testimonies are open to those who see, but closed to the blind. The baptism of Christ opened his eyes; the peace of Christ opened mine. The washing of holy water made him new; but love covered the multitude of my sins.
Luke 15:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 20:1–10 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:30 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 1:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 9:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 22:3 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 28:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 108:5 (107:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 57:5 (56:6 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Pet 4:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 9:18 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: A converted Donatist, speaking like Paul after his conversion, gives thanks for being received back into the Church: he had followed his parents' charges against the Catholics until he recognized in Scripture the Church spread through the world.
- The speaker appears to be a converted Donatist (perhaps a former Donatist cleric) presented to the congregation; the sermon is short. “The handing over” (traditio) refers to the charge that Catholic bishops had surrendered the Scriptures in the persecution of 303.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR digit for letter; OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference; OCR slips; OCR slips in the reference): H;cc est vinea, ubi nun operabar → Hæc est vinea, ubi non operabar; consumpseram. 0 vinea → consumpseram. O vinea; Non acquievi carui et sanguini → Non acquievi carni et sanguini; (Philipp. m, 5, 6) → (Philipp. III, 5, 6); Secundum Frophetas → Secundum Prophetas; Non ine Pauli meritis → Non me Pauli meritis; esse non mcrui → esse non merui; nec ego spousam → nec ego sponsam; ipse rcvelavit mihi de Ecclesix effusione → ipse revelavit mihi de Ecclesiæ effusione; (Psal. cvn, 6j. → (Psal. CVII, 6).; lavacruin aquæ sanetæ → lavacrum aquæ sanctæ.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 360.1 (PL 39:1574–1575; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/360-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
Chapter 361
361.1PL 39:1575
Animadvertimus, cum Apostoli Epistola legeretur, laudabilem motum fidei charitatisque vestrae, quemadmodum exhorrueritis homines, qui putantes hanc solam esse vitam, quam cum pecoribus habemus communem, post mortem autem finiri totum quod est hominis, nec esse spem ullam vitæ alterius melioris, pruritum malarum aurium corrumpentes, dicunt: Manducemus et bibamus; cras enim morimur (I Cor. XV, 32). Hinc ergo sumatur nostrae disputationis exordium, et hic sit nostri velut cardo sermonis, quo caetera, quæ Dominus suggerere dignatus fuerit, referantur.
When the apostle's Letter was being read, we noticed the praiseworthy stirring of your faith and love, how you shuddered at men who, thinking that this alone is life, which we have in common with cattle, and that everything that belongs to man ends at death, and that there is no hope of another, better life, corrupt the itch of bad ears and say: “Let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we die.” Let the beginning of our discussion, then, be taken from this, and let this be as it were the hinge of our sermon, to which the other things that the Lord deigns to suggest may be referred.
1 Cor 15:32 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 4:3 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine takes as his starting point the congregation's reaction to Paul's quotation of those who deny the resurrection: “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.”
- Sermons 361–362 are on the resurrection of the dead.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference): Epistola legcretur → Epistola legeretur; hanc solam esse vitan → hanc solam esse vitam; ( I Cor. xv, 32) → (I Cor. XV, 32); qu:e Dominus → quæ Dominus.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 361.1 (PL 39:1575; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
361.2PL 39:1575
Spes enim nostra est resurrectio mortuorum: fides nostra est resurrectio mortuorum. Charitas etiam nostra est, quam praedicatio rerum quæ nondum videntur inflammat, et accendit desiderio, cujus magnitudine fiant corda nostra capacia beatitudinis quæ ventura promittitur, quamdiu creditur quod nondum videtur: charitas ergo etiam ipsa nostra, nec circa temporalia hæc et visibilia debet occupari, ut tale aliquid nos habituros in resurrectione speremus, quale modo, si contemnimus, melius vivimus mclioresque sumus, carnales videlicet voluptates atque delicias. Sublata itaque fide resurrectionis mortuorum, omnis intercidit doctrina christiana. Fundata vero fide resurrectionis mortuorum, non continuo securitas est de animo christiano, nisi distinguatur vita illa quæ futura est, ab ista quæ transit. Itaque sic proponendum est: Si non resurgent mortui, nulla spes nobis est futuræ vitæ: si autem resurgent mortui, erit quidem vita futura; sed secunda quæstio est, qualis erit. Prima itaque disputatio est, utrum futura sit resurrectio mortuorum: secunda vero disputatio est, qualis futura est in resurrectione vita sanctorum. Qui ergo dicunt mortuos non resurgere, christiani non sunt: qui vero putant mortuos cum resurrexerint, carnaliter esse victuros, carnales christiani sunt. Quidquid ergo disputationis est adversus opinionem eorum qui resurrectionem mortuorum negant, adversus eos est qui foris sunt, ex quorum numero non hic arbitror adesse aliquem. Unde superflua videri potest nostra dissertio, si fuerit immorata, ut docere conemur resurgere mortuos. Auctoritatis enim pondere christianus ducendus est, qui jam Christo credidit, qui nullo modo putat mentiri Apostolum. Sufficit ergo ut iste audiat, Si mortui non resurgunt, inanis est prœdicatio nostra, inanis est et fides vestra. Si mortui, inquit, non resurgunt, neque Christus resurrexit (Ibid. 14, 13). Si autem Christus resurrexit, in quo salus est Christianorum, non utique impossibile est resurgere mortuos: quoniam ille qui suscitavit Filium suum, et ille qui suscitavit carnem suam, cætero corpori, quod est Ecclesia, in capite demonstravit exemplum. Poterat ergo esse superflua disputatio de resurrectione mortuorum, ut jam susciperemus eam quam inter se Christiani solent habere, cum resurrexerimus quales erimus, quemadmodum vivemus, quæ erunt negotia nostra, eruntne aliqua, aut nulla: si nulla erunt, desidiose victuri sumus nihil agendo; aut si aliquid agemus, quid agemus: deinde, manducaturi et bibituri sumus, conjunctiones marium feminarumque futurae sunt, an aliqua simplex et incorrupta vita communis; et si ita est, qualis erit ipsa vita, qualis motus, qualis figura ipsorum corporum. Istæ disputationes Christianorum sunt, salva fide resurrectionis.
For our hope is the resurrection of the dead; our faith is the resurrection of the dead. Our love too is, which the preaching of things not yet seen inflames and kindles with desire, by whose greatness our hearts may become capable of the blessedness promised to come, as long as what is not yet seen is believed: so our love itself also ought not to be occupied with these temporal and visible things, so that we should hope to have in the resurrection such things as now, if we despise them, we live better and are better—namely carnal pleasures and delights. So if faith in the resurrection of the dead is taken away, all Christian teaching falls. But when faith in the resurrection of the dead is founded, there is not at once security about the Christian soul, unless that life which is to come is distinguished from this one which passes. So it must be put thus: if the dead will not rise, there is no hope for us of a future life; but if the dead will rise, there will indeed be a future life; but the second question is what it will be like. So the first discussion is whether there will be a resurrection of the dead; the second discussion is what the life of the saints will be like in the resurrection. [3] Those who say that the dead do not rise are not Christians; but those who think that the dead, when they have risen, will live carnally are carnal Christians. Whatever discussion there is, then, against the opinion of those who deny the resurrection of the dead is directed against those who are outside, of whose number I think no one is present here. So our treatment may seem superfluous if it lingers on trying to teach that the dead rise. For a Christian, who already believes in Christ, who in no way thinks that the apostle lies, is to be led by the weight of authority. It is enough, then, that he hear: “If the dead do not rise, our preaching is empty, and your faith is empty too. If the dead,” he says, “do not rise, neither has Christ risen.” But if Christ has risen, in whom is the salvation of Christians, it is certainly not impossible for the dead to rise: since he who raised his Son, and he who raised his own flesh, showed in the head an example to the rest of the body, which is the Church. So the discussion of the resurrection of the dead could be superfluous, so that we might take up at once that which Christians usually have among themselves: when we have risen, what we shall be like, how we shall live, what our occupations will be, whether there will be any or none: if none, whether we shall live idly doing nothing; or if we shall do something, what we shall do; then, whether we shall eat and drink, whether there will be unions of men and women, or some simple and incorrupt common life; and if so, what that life will be like, what the movement, what the form of the bodies themselves. These are the discussions of Christians, faith in the resurrection being kept safe.
1 Cor 15:13–14 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:24–25 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 4:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 22:30 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christian faith and hope rest on the resurrection of the dead; denying it is unbelief, imagining a carnal life after it is the error of carnal Christians, and Christians, accepting the apostle's authority, may then inquire what risen life will be like.
- Paragraph 3 begins inside this section, marked [3]; its marginal headings have been removed. The digital text has no separate 361.3.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings; OCR slips; OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference; OCR slips; joined words; leaked paragraph number 3 and Migne's marginal headings (paragraph 3 begins here); missing space): Charitas nostra. Duœ quœstiones de futura resurrectione. Spes enim nostra est red rrecLio mortuorum → Spes enim nostra est resurrectio mortuorum; atque deiicias. Sublata iUtque fide rcsurrectionis → atque delicias. Sublata itaque fide resurrectionis; de aniano christiano,nisi → de animo christiano, nisi; 3- In altera infidelis errat, inj altera christianus carnalis. Christianus auctoritatis pondere ducendus. Qni ergo → Qui ergo; christiani nou sunt → christiani non sunt; supcrflua vidcri potest nostra dissertio, si fuerit humorata → superflua videri potest nostra dissertio, si fuerit immorata; Auctorilatis cnim → Auctoritatis enim; Sufficit ergo utiste audiat → Sufficit ergo ut iste audiat; Si mortui nou resurgunt → Si mortui non resurgunt; (lbid. 14, 13) → (Ibid. 14, 13); Christus resurrexit,in quo → Christus resurrexit, in quo; non atique impossibile cst → non utique impossibile est; Poterat crgo esse → Poterat ergo esse; qux erunt negotia → quæ erunt negotia; quid agcmus: deinde, manducaturi ct bibituri → quid agemus: deinde, manducaturi et bibituri; et si ita cst, qualis → et si ita est, qualis; Istac disputationes Christianorum suut → Istæ disputationes Christianorum sunt.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 361.2 (PL 39:1575; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).