Against Five Heresies 1–5

Authorship disputed: Transmitted among the sermons of Augustine; assigned to Quodvultdeus by modern scholarship.

Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).

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Chapter 1

1PL 42:1102

Debitor sum, fateor, non necessitate cogente, sed, quod est vehementius, charitate. Non tam ad com­ pellendum potest esse molestus exactor, quam ad reddendum devotus est debitor. Sed ut impleam quod promisi, adjuvate me sanctis orationibus vestris, ut det omnipotens Deus gratiam sermonibus meis, et satisfaciam piis mentibus et auribus vestris. Si meminisse dignamini qui in tempore adfuistis, quinque hostium genera esse diximus: contra quæ expugnanda inducias postulavimus, ut necessaria arma præparare possemus. Promissus dies illuxit, nos quoque impigre ad certamen Domino adjuvante processimus. Adjuto­ rium nostrum a Domino, qui fecit caelum et terram. Donabit certanti victoriam, qui certandi dedit audaciam. Non nos hostium turba, non nos bellantium revocet forma, non quasi vitrea, fulgentia terreant arma. Goliam magnum, robustum, armis terribilibus, ingentique turba munitum, David solus, puer parvus atque inermis, uno lapidis ictu prostravit, totaque Allophylorum castra turbavit atque fugavit. Quid autem aliud petra contra Goliam manu David missa, nisi Christum contra diabolum ex semine David venturum signili­ Aggrediamur jam, et errorum quæ diximus quinque genera proponamus. Pagani dicunt, Quia est quod nos exhorretis atque abjicitis tanquam mul­ tos colentes deos? Ecce et vos Deum, quem prædi­ catis colendum, filium habere dicitis, eumque sine alterius commixtione sexus natum esse confingitis. Judæi dicunt, Quomodo unum colitis Deum, quando et hominem quem patres nostri crucifixerunt Domi­ num dicentes, hominibus extorquetis ut tanquam Filium Dei vobiscum venerentur et colant? Manichaei dicunt phantasma esse, quod dicitur Dominum Chri­ stum femineo potuisse nasci ex utero. Non enim di­ gnum est, inquiunt, ut tanta majestas per sordes et squalores feminæ transisse credatur. Sabelliani, iidem Patripassiani, dicunt, Unus est Deus Pater et Filius; quoniam qui Pater, ipse est et Filius. Nam si aliter dixerimus, dicemur multicolæ. Ariani dicunt, Alius est Pater, alius est Filius, sed minor est Filius. Quo­ modo enim fieri potest, ut genitori genitus existat æqualis?

I am a debtor, I confess, not under the compulsion of necessity but, what is stronger, of love. The collector cannot be as pressing in his demand as the debtor is devoted in his payment. But that I may fulfil what I promised, help me with your holy prayers, that almighty God may give grace to my words, and that I may satisfy your devout minds and ears. If those of you who were present then will be so good as to remember, we said there were five kinds of enemies, and to overcome them we asked for a truce, so that we could prepare the necessary arms. The promised day has dawned, and we too, with the Lord’s help, have come forward eagerly to the contest. Our help is from the Lord, who made heaven and earth. He who gave the courage to fight will give the fighter victory. Let not the crowd of enemies nor the look of the warriors call us back; let not their shining arms, brittle as glass, terrify us. Goliath, great, strong, with terrible arms and protected by a huge crowd, David alone, a small boy and unarmed, laid low with a single blow of a stone, and threw the whole camp of the Philistines into confusion and flight. And what did the stone thrown by David’s hand against Goliath signify, but Christ, who was to come from the seed of David against the devil? Let us now advance to the attack and set out the five kinds of errors we mentioned. The pagans say: “Why do you abhor and reject us as worshipers of many gods? See, you too say that the God whom you preach as the one to be worshiped has a son, and you make up the story that he was born without the joining of the other sex.” The Jews say: “How do you worship one God, when you call Lord the man whom our fathers crucified, and force people to venerate and worship him with you as the Son of God?” The Manichaeans say that it is a phantasm when it is said that the Lord Christ could have been born from a woman’s womb. “For it is not fitting,” they say, “to believe that so great a majesty passed through the filth and squalor of a woman.” The Sabellians, who are also the Patripassians, say: “God the Father and the Son is one, since he who is the Father is himself also the Son. For if we say otherwise, we will be called worshipers of many gods.” The Arians say: “The Father is one, the Son another, but the Son is less. For how can the begotten be equal to the begetter?”

Ps 124:8 (123:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Sam 17:49–51 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 1:3 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The preacher, paying a promised debt, sets out the five enemies of the faith: pagans, Jews, Manichaeans, Sabellians, and Arians, each with its objection.

  • The sermon (Against Five Heresies) is printed among Augustine’s spurious works and ascribed by many to Quodvultdeus of Carthage; the ascription is disputed. The objections of pagans, Jews, and heretics are given as the preacher states them.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip; footnote marker removed; footnote marker removed; stray mark removed): reddendum I devotus → reddendum devotus; ut fiens omnipotens del gratiam → ut det omnipotens Deus gratiam; Si me. minisse diguamini → Si meminisse dignamini; quinquc hostium genera essediximus → quinque hostium genera esse diximus; tillgentia terreant arma 2. → fulgentia terreant arma.; ''unitum 3,David → munitum, David; at. que fugavit → atque fugavit; urano David → manu David; patres rostri → patres nostri; Domi­ num 4 dicentes → Domi­ num dicentes; temineo → femineo.

Topics: Heresy, Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Quodvultdeus, Quinq. haer. 1 (PL 42:1102; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/quodvultdeus-quinque-haereses/1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, badly damaged in places; Migne's notes, headings and admonitions removed by logged corrections; some restored readings marked conjectural). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.

Chapter 2

2PL 42:1102

Ecce sunt errorum propositæ quæstiones, quasi hostium compositae acies. Contra istas acies pestiferas, san­ ctissimi fratres, assumite arma Dei, ut possitis resi­ stere in die malo, et in omnibus perfecti stare. Ac­ cingimini lumbos in veritate: nemo trepidet, nemo formidet. Est lorica justitiæ, est scutum fidei, in quo sagittæ malignorum ignitæ excipiantur et exstinguan­ tur. Est galea salutis, est gladius spiritus, quod est verbum Dei. Quisquis fidelium Christi militum his fuerit armis munitus, non cujus­ quam formidabit personam, non terrore temporis a certamine revocabitur. Eia, fratres, certamen in promptu est, fervet opus, urget adversarius, spicula parat, jacere tentat, nemo expavescat. Fratres, plu­ res sunt nobiscum quam cum illis. Nobiscum est Moyses ille magnus amicus Dei, qui ut hostem vinceret præliantem, manus ad coelum extendit, jam tunc figuram crucis Christi ostendens: ipse divino imperio, tumentis ponti volventes flexuosis sinibus undas, uno virgæ percussu trajiciendo populo aridos vertit in campos. Nobiscum est Jesus post Moysen populi dux Israelitici, fortissimus præliator, cujus etiam nomen indicat Salvatorem: ipse potentia sua et di­ vina fiducia, diem, sui cursus metas ne perageret, statuit; et nocti ne accederet imperavit. Ipse gentium reges, non singillatim, sed congregatim superavit, captivavit, humiliavit, occidit. Nobiscum est David manu fortis; quid dicam? servus Dei, electus Dei, amicus Dei, parens Dei: noverat et bene noverat, non solum parcere subjectis et debellare superbos (Æneid. lib. 6, vers. 853), verum etiam virtutes ostendere et patientiam custodire. Ipse inimicos suos cum persequeretur, non perniciosus, et cum vinceret, non exstitit impius. Nobiscum sunt alii atque alii san­ cti viri, qui omnia futura præviderunt et prædixe­ runt. Non est ergo quod terreat vos: et tantum ex. spectate, audite et orate. intentior et auctior circa me vestra sit oratio. Non diutius immoremur, jam quæ proposuimus prosequamur.

See, the questions of the errors have been set out, like enemy battle lines drawn up. Against these deadly lines, most holy brothers, take up the armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day and stand perfect in all things. Gird your loins with truth; let no one tremble, no one be afraid. There is the breastplate of righteousness; there is the shield of faith, on which the fiery arrows of the wicked are caught and quenched. There is the helmet of salvation; there is the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Whoever of Christ’s faithful soldiers is armed with these arms will fear no one’s person, and will not be called back from the contest by the terror of the times. Come, brothers, the contest is at hand, the work is hot, the adversary presses on, he readies his darts and tries to throw them: let no one be afraid. Brothers, there are more with us than with them. With us is that great Moses, the friend of God, who, to defeat the enemy in battle, stretched out his hands to heaven, showing even then the figure of the cross of Christ; at God’s command, with one stroke of his rod, he turned the rolling waves of the swelling sea, with their winding curves, into dry plains for the people to cross. With us is Joshua, leader of the people of Israel after Moses, a most valiant warrior, whose very name points to the Savior: by his power and his confidence in God he stopped the day, so that it would not complete the bounds of its course, and commanded the night not to come on. He overcame, captured, humbled, and killed the kings of the nations, not one by one but all together. With us is David, strong of hand. What shall I say? Servant of God, chosen of God, friend of God, ancestor of God: he knew well not only “to spare the subdued and war down the proud,” but also to show virtues and keep patience. When he pursued his enemies he was not destructive, and when he conquered he was not impious. With us are more and more holy men, who foresaw and foretold all things to come. There is nothing, then, to frighten you: only wait, listen, and pray. Let your prayer for me be more intent and more abundant. Let us not delay longer, but follow through what we have set out.

Eph 6:11–17 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Kgs 6:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 17:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 14:16–22 (allusion, high confidence) · Josh 10:12–13 (allusion, high confidence) · Josh 10:16–26 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Sam 24:1–22 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against these enemies the faithful take up the armor of God, with Moses, Joshua, David, and the prophets on their side.

  • “To spare the subdued and war down the proud” is Virgil, Aeneid 6.853, applied to David. Joshua’s name (Iesus in Latin) is the same as Jesus’.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip in Migne's reference; OCR slip; footnote marker removed; footnote marker removed): reM­ stere → resi­ stere; spicula parai → spicula parat; undas 1, → undas,; aridos verta in campos → aridos vertit in campos; Israelilici → Israelitici; uomcn → nomen; noverat ei bene noverit → noverat et bene noverat; (Æneid. lib. 6., vert. 853) → (Æneid. lib. 6, vers. 853); persequeretur2, non perniciosus, et cumvinceret, uon → persequeretur, non perniciosus, et cum vinceret, non; auctior 3 circa → auctior circa.

Extrabiblical texts: Virgil, Aen. 6.853 (Virgil; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Quodvultdeus, Quinq. haer. 2 (PL 42:1102; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/quodvultdeus-quinque-haereses/2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, badly damaged in places; Migne's notes, headings and admonitions removed by logged corrections; some restored readings marked conjectural). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.

Chapter 3

3PL 42:1102–1103

Quid dicis, pagane? Deus, inquis, si dele­ ctatus est filio, indiguit conjugio: si horruit conju gium, solus est sine filio. Quid enim poterat inveniri simile Deo, quod conjungeretur Deo, et pareret filium Deo? Deinde si, ut dicitis, habet Deus filium, jam non unum colitis Deum. Quid agimus? Ab Allophylo te­ lum missum excepimus; quid remittemus? Quodli­ bet miserimus telum, licet perveniat ad illum, nihil prodest. Quare? Quia durus est. Quantum durus est? Lapideus est: idola colit; et scriptum est, Similes illis fiant omnes qui faciunt ea, et omnes qui confidunt in eis. Sanctas Scripturas non acci­ pit. Quaeramus ergo lapidem quo percutiatur, ut per­ cussus quassetur, quassatus comminuatur, comminu­ tus in pulverem convertatur, conversus in pulverem compluatur, complutus seratur, satus faciat fructum, non qui igne consumatur, sed qui in horreo reconda­ tur. Hermes, qui latine Mercurius dicitur, scripsit Ii­ brum qui Λόγος τέλειος appellatur, id est, Verbum per­ fectum: magnum nomen libri hujus, quia magnus est de quo scriptus est. Quid enim perfectius Verbo, qui solus est inter mortuos liber? Audiamus quid loquatur Mercurius de Verbo perfe­ eto: Dominus, inquit, et omnium factor deorum, se­ cundum fecit Dominum. Et post pauca, ut ostenderet quid dixerit, repetiit et dixit: Quoniam ergo hunc fecit primum, et solum et unum: bonus autem ei visus est et plenissimus omnium bonorum. Quantum plenissimus Joannes evangelista dicat: De plenitudine ejus nos omnes accepimus, gratiam pro gratia. Bonus autem ei visus est, ct plenissimus om­ nium bonorum. Et sequitur: Laetatus est. Cui, vel cum quo lætatus est? Dicat ipsa Sapientia Dei, Filius Dei: Ego eram cui adgaudebat. Ergo, lætatus est, et valde dilexit tanquam unigenitum suum. Quem primo factum dixit, postea unigenitum appellavit. Item alio loco sic dixit: Filius benedicti Dei atque bonæ voluntatis, cujus nomen non potest humano ore narrari. Quærebas, pagane, conjugem Dei? Audi Mercurium: para frontem, et excipe lapis lapidem: cade, ut erigaris; frangere, ut confirmeris; destruere, ut ædificeris: ictus lapidis non cutem di­ vidat frontis, non venam rumpat sanguinis, non ape­ riat foveam vulneris; sed signum faciat crucis. Con­ jugem Dei quæris? Abjiciatur ex corde tuo, rogo, impura pravitas. Conjux Dei bona voluntas est. Quo­ modo autem pater sit Deus, et Filius Deus, nec ta­ men duo dii. sed unus sit Deus,tecum disputare non debeo; quia nisi credideris, intelligere nullatenus poteris. Et tamen Filium Dei Deum fatetur Mercu­ rius. Hoc lapide percussus, lapideus desinat esse sa­ crilegus. Audiamus quid etiam Sibylla vates eorum de eodem dicat: Alium, inquit, dedit Deus filiis ho­ minum colendum. Quantum apparet, in his senten­ tiis Mercurii et Sibyllæ, Sabellius etiam judicatur. Mercurius et Patrem Deum dicit et Filium: et Sibyl­ la dicit Deum alium. Sabellius dicit non alium, quia eumdem Patrem asserit esse quem Filium. Optimum valde est, si modo non unum tantum, sed etiam ad quantoscumque missus pervenire potuerit adversarios uno ictu percutiamus. Item Sibylla dicit: Ipsum tuum cognosce Dominum Dei Filium esse. Versus iste et Paganum increpat et Judæum. Alio loco Filium Dei σύμβουλον appellat, id est, consilium, vel consiliarium, Et propheta dicit, Vocabitur nomen ejus, Ad­ mirabilis, consiliarius, Deus fortis et potens. Hic Arianus arguitur, qui cum dicit minorem Dei Filium, dicit aliquando Deum non habuisse filium. Et si fuit sine filio, fuit sine consilio. Ecce ad quanta pericula provocamur. Sed quia Deus nunquam fuit sine consilio, etiam contradicente Ariano, nunquam Pater potuit esse sine Filio. Quid agis, pagane? Aperi aures, noli esse sicut aspis surda, quæ obturat aurem ne audiat vocem incantantis. Non tibi meos auctores profero; tuus est Mercurius, cui inter deos tantus honor cultusque a vobis delatus est, ut ejus nomine diem vocaretis. Ipsum audi, ipse te con­ vincat, ipse expugnet; ut cum te vicerit, illi cedas, et mihi credas. Mercurius dixit: Dilexit Deus Unige­ nitum suum. Ipse dixit: Filius benedicti Dei atque bonæ voluntatis. Et ne de ejus nomine tædium inter­ rogationis sustineret, secutus adjunxit: Cujus nomen non potest humano ore narrari. Quid tu, Mercuri, ab hominibus dicis nomen Dei Filii narrari non posse? A te narretur, qui non homo, sed deus ab hominibus æstimaris. Loquitur autem ad Filium suum dicens: Est autem. Quis? Filii inenarrabilis sermo sapientiæ sanctus sanctus. Nonne hoc est, In principio erat Verbum? Dic, Hermes, sermo iste sapien­ tiæ habet matrem? Sequitur: De solo Deo Domino est, omnibus dominante Deo mortalibus. Et quia ab hominibus indagari non potest, addit et dicit: Super homines est. Ergo quia super homines est, nomen Fi­ lii Dei narrare non possum, quia deus non sum: di­ cant homines quasi homines quod non sum, ego agnosco quod sum. Sermo sapientiæ de solo Deo est. Non ergo ibi, pagane, humanum suspiceris aut fingas fuisse conjugium: de solo Deo est, et super homines est. Increpat te Sibylla dicens, Ipsum tuum cognosce Dominum Dei Filium esse Deum: ipsum, non alium, non Martem, non Jovem, non Mercurium: sed quem confitetur Mercurius. Quid miraris, christiane, quod talia isti de Patre et Filio dicant? Et dæmones credunt, et contremiscunt (Jacobi II, 19). Nempe in Evangelio transeunte Domino dicunt, Novimus qui sis, Filius Dei, venisti ante tempus torquere nos. Utinam quomodo dæmones judicem, sic homines agnoscerent salvatorem!

What do you say, pagan? “God,” you say, “if he delighted in a son, needed a marriage; if he abhorred marriage, he is alone, without a son. For what could be found like God, to be joined to God and bear a son to God? Then, if, as you say, God has a son, you no longer worship one God.” What shall we do? We have caught a dart sent by the Philistine; what shall we send back? Whatever dart we send, though it reach him, it does no good. Why? Because he is hard. How hard? He is of stone: he worships idols; and it is written, “Let all who make them become like them, and all who trust in them.” He does not accept the holy Scriptures. Let us look, then, for a stone to strike him with, so that, struck, he may be shaken; shaken, broken; broken, turned to dust; turned to dust, rained on; rained on, sown; sown, may bear fruit, not to be burnt in the fire but stored in the barn. Hermes, who in Latin is called Mercury, wrote a book called Logos teleios, that is, “The Perfect Word”: a great name for this book, because he of whom it was written is great. For what is more perfect than the Word, who alone is free among the dead? Let us hear what Mercury says of the perfect Word: “The Lord,” he says, “and maker of all the gods made a second Lord.” And a little later, to show what he meant, he repeated it and said: “Since, then, he made him first, and alone and one, he seemed good to him and most full of all good things.” How full, let John the evangelist say: “From his fullness we have all received, grace for grace.” “He seemed good to him and most full of all good things.” And it continues: “He rejoiced.” In whom, or with whom, did he rejoice? Let the Wisdom of God, the Son of God, say: “I was the one in whom he delighted.” So “he rejoiced, and loved him greatly as his only-begotten.” He whom he first said was made, he afterwards called only-begotten. Again in another place he said: “The Son of the blessed God and of good will, whose name cannot be told by human mouth.” Were you looking, pagan, for God’s wife? Hear Mercury: brace your brow, and take, stone that you are, the stone: fall, that you may be raised; be broken, that you may be made firm; be destroyed, that you may be built up. Let the blow of the stone not split the skin of your brow, nor burst a vein, nor open the pit of a wound, but make the sign of the cross. You seek God’s wife? Let impure depravity be cast out of your heart, I beg you. The wife of God is good will. How God is Father and God is Son, and yet they are not two gods but one God, I ought not to dispute with you, because unless you believe you will by no means be able to understand. And yet Mercury confesses the Son of God as God. Struck by this stone, let the sacrilegious man cease to be of stone. Let us hear also what the Sibyl, their prophetess, says of the same: “God,” she says, “gave another to the sons of men to worship.” As is plain, in these sayings of Mercury and the Sibyl Sabellius too is judged. Mercury calls both the Father and the Son God, and the Sibyl speaks of another God. Sabellius says not another, because he asserts that the Father is the same as the Son. It is very good if with one blow we strike not one adversary only, but as many as our missile can reach once thrown. Again the Sibyl says: “Know that he is your Lord, the Son of God.” This verse rebukes both the pagan and the Jew. In another place she calls the Son of God symboulos, that is, counsel or counselor. And the prophet says, “His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, God strong and mighty.” Here the Arian is refuted, who, when he calls the Son of God less, says that God once did not have a son. And if he was without a son, he was without counsel. See into what dangers we are drawn. But since God was never without counsel, even though the Arian contradicts, the Father could never be without the Son. What are you doing, pagan? Open your ears; do not be like the deaf asp that stops its ear so as not to hear the voice of the charmer. I do not bring you authorities of mine; Mercury is yours, to whom you paid such honor and worship among the gods that you named a day after him. Hear him; let him convince you, let him overcome you, so that when he has conquered you, you may yield to him and believe me. Mercury said: “God loved his Only-begotten.” He said: “The Son of the blessed God and of good will.” And so as not to suffer the tedium of being asked his name, he added next: “whose name cannot be told by human mouth.” What, Mercury, do you say that the name of God’s Son cannot be told by men? Let it be told by you, whom men regard not as a man but as a god. But he speaks to his son, saying: “There is.” What? “The word of the ineffable Son, of wisdom, holy, holy.” Is this not “In the beginning was the Word”? Tell us, Hermes, has this word of wisdom a mother? It continues: “It is from the only God, the Lord, God who rules over all mortals.” And since it cannot be searched out by men, he adds: “It is above men.” So, since it is above men, (he means:) I cannot tell the name of God’s Son, because I am not a god; let men, as men, say what I am not; I acknowledge what I am. The word of wisdom is from God alone. Do not suppose there, then, pagan, or invent a human marriage: it is from God alone, and it is above men. The Sibyl rebukes you, saying: “Know that he is your Lord, the Son of God, God”: him, not another, not Mars, not Jupiter, not Mercury, but the one whom Mercury confesses. Why do you wonder, Christian, that these say such things of the Father and the Son? “The demons also believe, and tremble.” Indeed in the Gospel, as the Lord passes by, they say: “We know who you are, Son of God; you have come before the time to torment us.” Would that, as demons recognized the judge, so men might recognize the Savior!

Ps 115:8 (113:16 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 88:5 (87:6 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 8:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 9:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 58:4–5 (57:5-Ps Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Jas 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 1:24 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against the pagan objection that a divine Son requires a divine marriage, the preacher cites Hermes Trismegistus and the Sibyl on the Son of God, the Word of wisdom born of God alone.

  • The Hermetic sayings come from the Greek “Perfect Discourse” (the Latin Asclepius) and the Sibylline lines from Sib. Or. (e.g. 8.264 for σύμβουλος); the same testimonies, in almost the same words, are collected by Lactantius, Divine Institutes 4.6–4.7, which the preacher evidently follows. The text of the quotations is damaged in the OCR and is translated by sense. The phrase “free among the dead” is from Ps 88:5 (Vulgate 87:6).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip in Migne's reference; OCR slip; footnote marker removed; footnote marker removed): dele­ clatus → dele­ ctatus; Quid euim poterat invenini → Quid enim poterat inveniri; iUlium → filium; jam non mam colitis → jam non unum colitis; te­ him missum → te­ lum missum; Similes i!- Iia fiant → Similes illis fiant; diciuir → dicitur; Αόγος → Λόγος; id cst, Verbum → id est, Verbum; Quid euim perfectius → Quid enim perfectius; omuium → omnium; Etpost paupa → Et post pauca; rcpetiit et dixit: Qnuniam → repetiit et dixit: Quoniam; solum ct unum 4: → solum et unum:; plenitudine eja nos → plenitudine ejus nos; Cui, vet. cum → Cui, vel cum; adgaudebut → adgaudebat; schim. Qnem primo factum dixil → suum. Quem primo factum dixit; Item:,lio loco → Item alio loco; cade, III crigaris → cade, ut erigaris; cntem → cutem; apc­ riat → ape­ riat; Abjiciitur → Abjiciatur; Deum 1 fatetur → Deum fatetur; sa­ crilepus, → sa­ crilegus.; de codem dicat → de eodem dicat; filiis iro­ minum 2 → filiis ho­ minum; senten­ tii!; Mercurii etSibylla → senten­ tiis Mercurii et Sibyllæ; Filium: ct Sibyl­ la → Filium: et Sibyl­ la; quom Filium → quem Filium; unum tantum( sed → unum tantum, sed; adversariouno → adversarios uno; Item S bylla → Item Sibylla; Dominum 3 Dei → Dominum Dei; σύμЄουλον appellat, id cst, consilium, vel consili - rium → σύμβουλον appellat, id est, consilium, vel consiliarium; IIic Arianus → Hic Arianus; minorent → minorem; habuisse lilium. Et si fuit siue filio, fuit sinc consilio → habuisse filium. Et si fuit sine filio, fuit sine consilio; Scd quia Deus nunquam fuit sinc → Sed quia Deus nunquam fuit sine; obturat autem ne → obturat aurem ne; delatus cst, ut ejus nomine diem vocarelis. Ipsum audi, ipso tc → delatus est, ut ejus nomine diem vocaretis. Ipsum audi, ipse te; ipsc expugnet → ipse expugnet; ct mihi credas → et mihi credas; bome voluntatis → bonæ voluntatis; hymano → humano; sapientiao Sanctus sanctus4 → sapientiæ sanctus sanctus; sapien­ ti:c habet → sapien­ tiæ habet; Domino rst → Domino est; Et qnia ab → Et quia ab; Super homines cst → Super homines est; ege agnosco → ego agnosco; de solo Ueo est Non ergo ibi,pagane → de solo Deo est. Non ergo ibi, pagane; non Jovem. non → non Jovem, non; de Patre ct Filio → de Patre et Filio; (Jacobi u, 19) → (Jacobi II, 19); transcunte Domino dicunt. Norimusqui sis, Filius Dei, venisti anie → transeunte Domino dicunt, Novimus qui sis, Filius Dei, venisti ante; judicem, sic. homines agnoscerent salvatorem I → judicem, sic homines agnoscerent salvatorem!.

Extrabiblical texts: Corp. herm. Asclepius (Perfect Discourse) 8 (Hermetic writings; quotation); Sib. Or. 8.264 (Sibylline Oracles; quotation); Lactantius, Inst. 4.6-7 (Divine Institutes; echo)

Topics: Trinity, Christology, Monarchianism and Sabellianism, Arianism

Cite (SBL): Quodvultdeus, Quinq. haer. 3 (PL 42:1102–1103; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/quodvultdeus-quinque-haereses/3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, badly damaged in places; Migne's notes, headings and admonitions removed by logged corrections; some restored readings marked conjectural). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.

Chapter 4

4PL 42:1103–1105

Quid dicit Judaeus? Unus est nobis Deus, præter ipsum non alium novimus. Illum vero quem dicitis Christum, patres nostri non Deum. sed homi nem occiderunt. Nempe hoc est quod dixi: Utinam quomodo dæmones judicem, sic homincs agnosce­ rent salvatorem! Ecce dæmones viderunt, et tre­ muerunt: homines viderunt, et occiderunt. Dæmones confessi sunt: homines persecuti sunt. Quæ infelici­ tas est et quanta miseria, imparem etiam dæmonibus inveniri? Item homines credunt, dæmones pereunt: homines salvantur, dæmones puniuntur.Sed hæc immutatio gratia est dexteræ Excelsi, non præsumptio hominis de suis viribus confi­ dentis. Contra istum vero Judæum. non laboro: pu­ gnant contra illum codices sui. pugnant Lex et Pro­ phetæ: et aut victus et humiliatus salvabitur, aut superbus et pertinax punietur. Dixit Dominus ad Moysen: Ecce ego mitto angelum meum qui præcedat te, et custodiat in via, et introducat in locum quem pa­ ravi. Observa eum. et audi vocem ejus, nec contemnen­ dum putes. Audisti angelum, agnosce Dominum: nec contemnendum esse putes. Audi adhuc quod metuas: Nec, inquit, contemnendum putes. Quare? Quia non dimittet cum peccaveris, et est nomen meum in illo. Quis est ille tam magnus, cui Deus et potestatem suam dedit et nomen? Dominus virtutum ipse est rex gloriæ (Psal. XXIII, 10). Et unde probamus, quod cum dicitur angelus, debeat intelligi Deus? Habes in libro qui appellatur Genesis: Vene­ runt, inquit, duo angeli Sodomam vespere, sedente Loth præ foribus civitatis: quos cum vidisset. surrexit, et ivit obviam eis. Quid plura? Suscepit, et obsecutus est eis tanquam peregrinis. Consuetu - dine hospitalitatis liberatus a periculo civitatis, et temporale evasit incendium, et æternum consecutus est præmium. Discite, christiani, sine discretione exhibere hospitalitatem, ne forte cui domum clause­ ritis, cui humanitatem negaveritis ipse sit Christus. Non amplius evagemur a proposita actione. Angeli venerunt ad Loth, et dixerunt: Videte et advertite, quia angeli loqui dicuntur. Quid dixerunt angeli? Salva animam tuam, noli respicere post tergum. Quia nemo ponens manum super aratrum, et retro respiciens, aptus est regno Dei. Neque stes in omni circa regione; terrenis non inhæreas vo­ luptatibus: sed in monte salvum te fac; spes tua Deus sit, ne et tu simul pereas cum Sodo­ mitis. Dixitque Loth ad eos. Videte hominem viden­ tem, non cæcum, sicut Judæi et Sabelliani; non lip­ pientem, sicut Ariani: sed oculos sanos habentem, sicut catholici Christiani. Angelos vidit, et Dominum intellexit. Quid dixit angelis? Dixitque Loth ad eos: Domine mi, quia invenit servus tuus gratiam ante te, ct magnificasti misericordiam tuam, quam fecisti mecum, ut salvares animam meam. Magna res: cum volo Judæum ferire, sic, Moyses fortissimus vir hastam verbi sui vibravit, et misit, ut per Judæ um ad Sabel­ lianum transiret, Arianumque percuteret. Quid agis, Loth sancte? Angelos vides, et non unum, sed duos, et dicis, Domine mi. Ad unum verba facis, unum pre­ caris: et non metuis ne alteri injuriam facere videa­ ris? Absit, inquit. Recedite, Judæi; recedite, Sabel­ liani, quia non videtis; recedite, Ariani, quia parum videtis. Ego video; et quod video quia video, nec con­ temno nec erro. Duos video, æquales video. Unum rogo, nulli injuriam facio: quia Patrem a Filio non divido. Nam ut intelligatis me non falli, cum duos tan­ quam unum deprecor, videte utrum duo, an unus meis respondeat precibus. Petiit ut in modica civitate et proxima refugium haberet et viveret. Respondetur ei. Videamus quot sunt qui respondent. Verba libri subsequuntur, Dixitque ad eum: quasi responsio singularis est. Adhuc sequere, videamus: Ecce etiam in hoc suscepi preces tuas, ut non subvertam urbem, pro qua locutus es. Festina, et salvare ibi: quia non potero facere quidquam, donec ingrediaris illuc. Vides, Judæe, et dici angelum, et esse Deum? Audi, Ariane, duos, Patrem et Filium, dicentem: nec ta - men eumdem Patrem quem Filium, propter Sabel- Hanos; sed Patrem et Filium? Audis quid dictum est, Suscepi preces tuas? Audis quid dicit, Non subvertam urbem? Audis, Non potero facere quidquam? Judæus legat angelum, intelligat Deum; Sabelli anus legat duos venisse; Arianus legat unum respondisse: et non contemnant, sed errorem fugiant, ne ad ignem perveniant. Sed ut plenius ostendamus dictum ange­ lum debere intelligi Deum, hujus lectionis sequentia recitemus: Igitur, inquit, Dominus pluit super Sodo­ mum et Gomorrham sulphur et ignem a Domino de caelo. Quid est, Dominus a Domino, nisi Filius a Patre? Sicut et alio loco: Dixit Dominus Do­ mino meo, id est, Pater Filio suo, Sede ad dexteram meam, donec ponam inimicos tuos scabellum pedum tuorum. Item in Exodo, Apparuit, in­ quit, Moysi angelus Domini in flamma ignis de. rubo, et vidit quoniam rubus ardebat igni, rubus autem non cre­ mabatur. Et dixit Moyses: Transeo, et videbo hoc grande visum. cur utique non crematur rubus. Cum vi­ disset autem Dominus, quia accedit videre, vocavit eum Dominus de rubo. Ecce ipse angelus ipse Dominus. Et sequitur dicens, Moyses, Moyses. Et ille dixit, Quis es Domine? Ait illi Dominus, Ne accesseris huc, nisi solveris calceamenta de pedibus tuis; locus enim in quo stas, terra sancta est. Adhuc audi quid dixerit ei: Ego sum Deus patrum tuorum, Deus Abraham, Deus Isaac, Deus Jacob. Et ideo Judæus sic au­ diat angelum, ut intelligat Dominum et timeat Deum: Sabellianus sic confiteatur Patrem, ut non neget Filium: Arianus sic confiteatur Patrem et Filium, ut non minuat Filium. Jesus etiam Nave, sicut liber di­ cit qui ejus scriptus est nomine, cum adversus hostes dimicaret,in ipso constitutus procinctu, vidit virum stantem contra se, et evaginatum tenentem gladium: porrexitque ad eum, et ait: Noster es, an adversa­ riorum? Qui respondit: Nequaquam, sed sum princeps exercitus Domini, et nunc adveni. Cecidit autem Jesus pronus in terram, et adoravit. Et nunc sequere, Judæe, ducem tuum. Videt, inter­ rogat, et adorat. Visio communionem habet: videtur enim et quod agnoscitur, et quod non cognoscitur. Ergo visio communionem habet, interrogatio igno­ rationem, adoratio fidem. Quem videt? Hominem. Quis est homo iste? Ipse est cujus contra inimicas gentes prænuntiabatur, desiderabatur, exspectabatur adventus. [Et homo est, inquit, et quis cognoscet eum?] Quis est princeps exercitus Domini? Nonne ipse est, qui in Evangelio interrogatus quis esset, respondit, Principium, qui et loquor vobis (Joan. VIII, 25)? Quid turbaris, Jesu? Quare fremuerunt gentes, et populi meditati sunt inania adversus Dominum et adversus Christum ejus? Vides armatum, noli metuere: non contra te venio, sed pro te; quia non sum mis­ sus nisi ad oves perditas domus Israel. Quid est, Jesu, quod vides, interrogas, et adoras? Audi: Hominem video; interrogo quem video; audio quem non video; adoro, non quod video, sed quod credo: quia fides ex auditu, auditus autem per verbum Dei. Quid ergo quæris? Adverte, et sequere: Hominem video, sed præ filiis hominum est quod intelligo. Nescio quid mihi coruscat, et tan­ quam de latebris fulgidum aliquid splendet. Vado ad eum, quia venit ad me: perscrutabor quod video hoc tam grande visum. Quem video, et homo est, et non est homo. Imo et homo est propter Manichæum; et plusquam homo est propter Judæum. Perge, Jesus meus, dux meus, perge. Quare, nisi quia cum tu me in­ quiris, me acquiris? Ecce venio, hominem invenio: in­ tus nescio quid intelligo; obscurum est, nondum video: ' recta est facies Moysi, velamen impedit aciem, latet veritas. Non agnosco quid sit, opus est interrogatione. Dic, tu homo, Noster es an adver­ sariorum? Si adversariorum est, et homo est, et inimicus est: si noster est, et homo est, et Salvator est. Post me venit. sed ante me factus est. Si Jesus est, et Salvator est. Interroget Jesus Jesum, interroget prior posteriorem, sed tamen minor ma­ jorem; interroget deficiens crescentem: figura inter­ roget veritatem; imo figura intelligat veritatem: ut lucescat dies, et removeantur tenebræ temporales. Ecce venio, scio quia spiritus carnem et ossa non habet; palpo carnem: quæro, intueor ar­ matum. Adhuc latet mysterium. Interrogo virum, au­ dio verbum;removeo velum, adoro Deum. In eo quod Jesus vidit nec cognovit, furiosam gentem Judæo­ rum significabat, quæ si videns cognovisset, nunquam Dominum gloriæ crucifixisset: in eo au­ tem quod audiendo credidit et adoravit, istum signi­ ficabat populum de quo scriptum est, Populus quem non cognovi, servivit mihi; in auditu auris obaudivit mihi. Audi adhuc qui negas Deum genuisse Filium, audi quid dicit Pater per Isaiam prophetam: Numquid ego, qui alios parere facio, ipse non pariam, dicit Dominus? Ego qui ge­ nerationes cæteris tribuo, sterilis remanebo? dicit Dominus Deus tuus, cui dictum est, Filius meus es tu, ego hodie genui te (Psal. II, 7). Quid me stimulas, Ariane, et irrides cum audis, hodie? Apud Deum nunquam crastinus, nunquam hesternus dies est, sed semper hodie: non mensium circulis volvitur annus, non succedentibus ac decedentibus transigitur mensis diebus, non horæ mutantur, non variantur tempora vel momenta, ubi dies nec termino concluditur, nec initio inchoatur. Audiat adhuc Judæus quid per pro­ phetam dicat Dominus, audiat Arianus: audiant et omnes qui Filium Dei aut non esse, aut esse minorem dicunt. Ego, inquit, Deus, et non est alius. Et quid de Filio, Domine, si tu solus es Deus? Audi adhuc, quid festinas? In memetipso juravi. Ubi est juratio, nulla est dubitatio. In memetipso juravi, Egre­ dietur de ore meo justitiæ verbum. Ecce habes Filium: Egredietur de ore meo justitiæ verbum, et non revertetur. Quid est, non revertetur? Ne Sabellianus dicat quia ipse est Filius qui Pater, egressum verbum non re­ vertetur: quia Pater, Pater est; Filius, Filius est. Sileat aliquantulum hæreticorum loquacitas, nullam habens verecundiam: impleat Dominus sententiam; et Filio Dei aut nullus adversabitur, aut qui adver­ sarius exstiterit, confundetur. Egredietur, inquit, de ore meo justitiæ verbum, et non revertetur; quia mihi curvabitur omne genu, et confitebitur omnia lingua. Et Filius quid? Audi ergo in Domino dici: Meæ sunt summæ justitiæ et imperium. Age ergo, et quid postea? Ad eum venient, et confundentur omnes qui repugnant ei. Ite nunc, omnes, Pagani. Hære­ tici, Judæi; adversamini, et repugnate Filio Dei: ad eum venietis, et confundemini omnes qui repugna­ tis ei.

What does the Jew say? “We have one God; besides him we know no other. But the one you call Christ our fathers killed, not as God but as a man.” This is just what I said: Would that, as demons recognized the judge, so men might recognize the Savior! See, demons saw and trembled; men saw and killed. Demons confessed; men persecuted. What unhappiness, and how great a misery, to be found inferior even to demons! Yet men believe, demons perish; men are saved, demons are punished. But this change is the grace of the right hand of the Most High, not the presumption of a man trusting in his own strength. Against this Jew, however, I do not labor: his own books fight against him, the Law and the Prophets fight; and either, defeated and humbled, he will be saved, or, proud and stubborn, he will be punished. The Lord said to Moses: “Behold, I send my angel to go before you, guard you on the way, and bring you into the place I have prepared. Heed him and hear his voice, and do not think him one to be despised.” You heard “angel”: recognize the Lord, “and do not think him one to be despised.” Hear further what you should fear: “And do not think him one to be despised,” he says. Why? “For he will not pardon you when you sin, and my name is in him.” Who is he so great, to whom God gave both his power and his name? “The Lord of hosts, he is the king of glory.” And how do we prove that when “angel” is said, God must be understood? You have it in the book called Genesis: “Two angels came to Sodom in the evening,” it says, “while Lot sat before the gates of the city; and when he saw them, he rose and went to meet them.” Why say more? He received them and served them as strangers. By his custom of hospitality he was freed from the danger of the city, escaped the temporal fire, and won an eternal reward. Learn, Christians, to show hospitality without distinction, lest perhaps the one to whom you shut your house and deny kindness be Christ himself. Let us not wander further from the matter in hand. The angels came to Lot and said, see and note that angels are said to speak, what did the angels say? “Save your life; do not look behind you.” For no one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God. “Nor stay anywhere in all the region round about”: do not cling to earthly pleasures; “but save yourself on the mountain”: let God be your hope, lest you too perish with the Sodomites. “And Lot said to them.” See a man who sees: not blind, like the Jews and the Sabellians; not bleary-eyed, like the Arians; but with sound eyes, like Catholic Christians. He saw angels and understood the Lord. What did he say to the angels? “And Lot said to them: My Lord, since your servant has found favor before you, and you have magnified your mercy which you have shown me in saving my life.” A great thing: when I want to strike the Jew, Moses, that most valiant man, brandished and threw the spear of his word so that it passed through the Jew to the Sabellian and struck the Arian. What are you doing, holy Lot? You see angels, not one but two, and you say, “My Lord.” You address one, you entreat one: are you not afraid of seeming to wrong the other? “Far from it,” he says. “Go away, Jews; go away, Sabellians, for you do not see; go away, Arians, for you see too little. I see; and because I see what I see, I neither despise nor err. I see two; I see them equal. I entreat one and wrong neither, because I do not divide the Father from the Son. And so that you may understand that I am not mistaken when I entreat two as one, see whether two or one answers my prayers.” He asked to have refuge in a small, nearby city and to live. He is answered. Let us see how many answer. The words of the book follow: “And he said to him”: the answer is in the singular. Follow further, let us see: “Behold, I have accepted your prayers in this too, that I will not overthrow the city for which you have spoken. Hurry and be saved there; for I can do nothing until you enter there.” Do you see, Jew, that he is called an angel and is God? Do you hear, Arian, two, Father and Son, and one speaking? Yet the Father is not the same as the Son, against the Sabellians, but there are Father and Son. Do you hear what was said: “I have accepted your prayers”? Do you hear what he says: “I will not overthrow the city”? Do you hear: “I can do nothing”? Let the Jew read “angel” and understand God; let the Sabellian read that two came; let the Arian read that one answered: and let them not despise it but flee their error, lest they come to the fire. But to show more fully that the one called an angel must be understood as God, let us recite what follows in this reading: “Then,” it says, “the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulphur and fire from the Lord out of heaven.” What is “the Lord from the Lord,” if not the Son from the Father? As in another place too: “The Lord said to my Lord,” that is, the Father to his Son, “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet.” Again in Exodus: “The angel of the Lord,” it says, “appeared to Moses in a flame of fire from the bush, and he saw that the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. And Moses said: I will go over and see this great sight, why the bush is not consumed. And when the Lord saw that he came near to see, the Lord called him from the bush.” See, the angel himself is the Lord himself. And it continues: “Moses, Moses.” And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” The Lord said to him, “Do not come near here unless you take the sandals off your feet; for the place where you stand is holy ground.” Hear further what he said to him: “I am the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob.” So let the Jew so hear “angel” as to understand the Lord and fear God; let the Sabellian so confess the Father as not to deny the Son; let the Arian so confess Father and Son as not to diminish the Son. Joshua the son of Nun too, as the book written under his name says, when he was fighting against the enemy and stood ready for battle, saw a man standing before him holding a drawn sword; and he went to him and said: “Are you ours, or our adversaries’?” He answered: “No, but I am the prince of the army of the Lord, and now I have come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the ground and worshiped. Now, Jew, follow your leader. He sees, he asks, and he worships. Sight is shared: for both what is recognized and what is not recognized are seen. So sight is shared, the question shows ignorance, the worship shows faith. Whom does he see? A man. Who is this man? He whose coming against the hostile nations was foretold, desired, and awaited. [“And he is a man,” it says, “and who shall know him?”] Who is the prince of the army of the Lord? Is it not he who, asked in the Gospel who he was, answered, “The beginning, who also speak to you”? Why are you troubled, Joshua? “Why have the nations raged, and the peoples devised vain things against the Lord and against his Christ?” You see an armed man: do not fear. I come not against you but for you; for I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. What is it, Joshua, that you see, ask, and worship? Hear: “I see a man; I ask the one I see; I hear one I do not see; I worship not what I see but what I believe: for faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of God.” What, then, do you seek? “Attend and follow. I see a man, but what I understand is fairer than the sons of men. Something flashes upon me, and something bright shines as from a hiding place. I go to him, because he has come to me: I will search out what I see, this great sight. He whom I see is both man and not man. Indeed he is man, because of the Manichaean, and more than man, because of the Jew.” Go on, my Joshua, my leader, go on. Why, unless because when you seek me, you win me? “See, I come, I find a man: within I perceive something; it is obscure, I do not yet see. Moses’ face is unveiled, but a veil hinders the gaze; the truth is hidden. I do not recognize what it is; I must ask. Tell me, you man: are you ours or our adversaries’? If he is the adversaries’, he is both man and enemy; if he is ours, he is both man and Savior. He comes after me, but he was before me. If he is Jesus, he is also Savior.” Let Jesus question Jesus, the earlier question the later, yet the lesser the greater; let the one who wanes question the one who grows; let the figure question the truth, or rather let the figure understand the truth, so that the day may dawn and the darkness of time be taken away. “See, I come; I know that a spirit does not have flesh and bones; I touch flesh; I look, I behold an armed man. Still the mystery is hidden. I question the man, I hear the Word; I take away the veil, I worship God.” In that Joshua saw and did not recognize, he signified the raging nation of the Jews, which, had it recognized him when it saw him, would never have crucified the Lord of glory; but in that he believed by hearing and worshiped, he signified this people of whom it is written, “A people I did not know served me; at the hearing of the ear it obeyed me.” Hear further, you who deny that God begot a Son; hear what the Father says through the prophet Isaiah: “Shall I, who make others give birth, not give birth myself? says the Lord. Shall I, who grant generation to others, remain barren? says the Lord your God,” to whom it was said, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.” Why do you goad me, Arian, and laugh when you hear “today”? With God there is never a tomorrow, never a yesterday, but always today: there the year does not roll on in the circles of months, nor does the month pass with days following and departing; hours do not change, times and moments do not vary, where the day is neither closed by an end nor begun by a beginning. Let the Jew hear further what the Lord says through the prophet; let the Arian hear; let all hear who say that the Son of God either does not exist or is less. “I,” he says, “am God, and there is no other.” And what of the Son, Lord, if you alone are God? Hear further; why do you hurry? “By myself I have sworn.” Where there is an oath, there is no doubt. “By myself I have sworn: a word of righteousness shall go out from my mouth.” See, you have the Son: “A word of righteousness shall go out from my mouth and shall not return.” What is “shall not return”? So that the Sabellian may not say that the Son is the same as the Father, the word that has gone out shall not return: because the Father is the Father, the Son is the Son. Let the shameless talkativeness of the heretics be silent for a little; let the Lord complete his sentence, and either no one will oppose the Son of God, or whoever stands as his adversary will be put to shame. “A word of righteousness,” he says, “shall go out from my mouth and shall not return; for to me every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess.” And what of the Son? Hear, then, what is said in the Lord: “Mine are the highest righteousness and dominion.” Go on, then; and what after that? “To him they shall come, and all who resist him shall be put to shame.” Go now, all of you, pagans, heretics, Jews; oppose and resist the Son of God: to him you will come, and all of you who resist him will be put to shame.

Ps 77:10 (76:11 Vulg.) (echo, low confidence) · Exod 23:20–21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 24:10 (23:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 19:1–3 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 13:2 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 25:35 (echo, low confidence) · Gen 19:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 9:62 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 19:18–22 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 19:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 3:2–6 (quotation, high confidence) · Josh 5:13–14 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:9 (quotation, medium confidence) · John 8:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:1–2 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 10:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 45:2 (44:3 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 3:13–16 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:30 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 18:43–44 (17:44-Ps Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 66:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:22–24 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against the Jews (and the Sabellians and Arians) the preacher reads the angel-theophanies of Exodus 23, Genesis 19, Exodus 3, and Joshua 5 as appearances of the Son, and Isaiah’s words on God’s begetting and the word that goes out from his mouth.

  • Anti-Jewish and anti-heretical argument: translated as written. Lot’s address to two angels as one “Lord” and the reply in the singular are read as showing Father and Son, distinct but one. The bracketed words are printed so by Migne (Jer 17:9 in the Old Latin, “and he is a man, and who shall know him?”). John 8:25 is quoted in the Latin form “Principium, qui et loquor vobis”. Isa 66:9 and 45:22–24 are quoted in Old Latin forms that differ from the Vulgate. The rendering of “Audi, Ariane, duos … dicentem” follows the sense (two, and one speaking).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip in Migne's reference; OCR slip; footnote marker removed; stray mark removed): quem 'icitis Christum → quem dicitis Christum; Utinaæ → Utinam; etocciderunt → et occiderunt; est ct quanta → est et quanta; dæmones percunt → dæmones pereunt; punictur. Uixil Dominus ad Moysen: Ecce ego mitio angelum cum → punietur. Dixit Dominus ad Moysen: Ecce ego mitto angelum meum; el introducat → et introducat; vocent ejus → vocem ejus; ille lam magnus → ille tam magnus; (Psal. XXIII? 10). Et unde probamus. qnod cum dicilur → (Psal. XXIII, 10). Et unde probamus, quod cum dicitur; Gennsis → Genesis; obviam eia → obviam eis; a priculo → a periculo; temperale → temporale; discretion exhibere → discretione exhibere; evagemura proposita → evagemur a proposita; Videtact a dvertite → Videte et advertite; Salvaanimam → Salva animam; mamum → manum; A eque stes in omui → Neque stes in omni; inbæreas → inhæreas; Judæi ct Sabelliani → Judæi et Sabelliani; Magua res. cum volo Juddæum fcrirc sic → Magna res: cum volo Judæum ferire, sic; duos, ct dicis → duos, et dicis; quod vidco quia video, nec con­ temno rec erro → quod video quia video, nec con­ temno nec erro; inlelligatis mc non → intelligatis me non; Petiut in → Petiit ut in; Respondetur cia → Respondetur ei.; siu gularis → singularis; Ecee etiam → Ecce etiam; quia nox potero → quia non potero; iiluc → illuc; Andi, Ariane → Audi, Ariane; Arianus lepat → Arianus legat; sod errorem fugiant, ne ad ignom → sed errorem fugiant, ne ad ignem; pionius → plenius; Quid I'SI, Dominus → Quid est, Dominus; angelas Domini → angelus Domini; ere­ nabatur → cre­ mabatur; Transeo I, → Transeo,; sequilnr dicons → sequitur dicens; Et ille xixit, Quis2 es → Et ille dixit, Quis es; accessEris → accesseris; in quo,tas → in quo stas; Dens Abraham → Deus Abraham; au­ diaL angelum, ut;ntelligat → au­ diat angelum, ut intelligat; Patrepm → Patrem; ut i on minuat → ut non minuat; qui rjus scriptus → qui ejus scriptus; adocavit → adoravit; nou cognosCitur → non cognoscitur; Quis est homo ste? → Quis est homo iste?; [Et homo tIt, inquit, et quia cognoscet eum a?] Quis cst → [Et homo est, inquit, et quis cognoscet eum?] Quis est; (Joan. vin, 25)? Quid turharis → (Joan. VIII, 25)? Quid turbaris; medi. tali sunt → meditati sunt; interrogas, ct adoras → interrogas, et adoras; quaeris' Adverte → quæris? Adverte; bominum est quod → hominum est quod; ad cum, quia venit ad lue → ad eum, quia venit ad me; graude visum → grande visum; et nun est homo → et non est homo; propterJudaeum → propter Judæum; cum tu mein­ quiris, meacquiris? Ecce venio, homineminvenio → cum tu me in­ quiris, me acquiris? Ecce venio, hominem invenio; adversariorum cst, et homo est, et ini. niicus → adversariorum est, et homo est, et inimicus; et Salvatur est → et Salvator est; Interroget Jesus Jcsum → Interroget Jesus Jesum; Ecce vcuio, scio qnia → Ecce venio, scio quia; palpo carneli: quæro, iulucor → palpo carnem: quæro, intueor; removeo velunt → removeo velum; In eo qnod Jcsus → In eo quod Jesus; glorias crucifixisset → gloriæ crucifixisset; Istum signi­ ficahat populum de quo scriptum cst → istum signi­ ficabat populum de quo scriptum est; ipse non pariant → ipse non pariam; pe­ nerationes → ge­ nerationes; ( l'aut. II, 7) → (Psal. II, 7); ct irrides cunt audis → et irrides cum audis; sca semper → sed semper; aunus → annus; audiant ct omnes → audiant et omnes; ant esse mino. rem → aut esse minorem; non eat alius → non est alius; si Hi solus → si tu solus; In memctipso → In memetipso; Ecce babcs → Ecce habes; et nou revertetur. Quid → et non revertetur. Quid; Filius, Filius cst → Filius, Filius est; bahens → habens; sententiam; ct Filio Dei aut nulius → sententiam; et Filio Dei aut nullus; meo justitias verbum → meo justitiæ verbum; summæ justitias → summæ justitiæ; onmes qui repugnant → omnes qui repugnant; Hære­ lici → Hære­ tici; rcpugnale → repugnate.

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy, Jews and Judaism, Angels

Cite (SBL): Quodvultdeus, Quinq. haer. 4 (PL 42:1103–1105; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/quodvultdeus-quinque-haereses/4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, badly damaged in places; Migne's notes, headings and admonitions removed by logged corrections; some restored readings marked conjectural). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.

Chapter 5

5PL 42:1105–1107

Non parum de Filio Dei secundum divinitatem locuti sumus, et resistentibus in quantum potuimus adversariis non pepercimus: nunc volo ad ejus incarnationem accedere, et Manichæus obsistit impurus. Quare? Quia Dei Filium non vult dici etiam hominis filium. Et ubi est quod scriptum est, Rorate, cæli, de­ super, et nubes pluant justum; aperiatur terra, et ger­ minet Salvatorem; et justitia oriatur simul, ego Dominus creavi eum? item, Ecce parvulus natus est nobis, et filius datus est nobis: et factus est principatus super humerum ejus et vocabitur nomen ejus, Admira­ bilis, consiliarius, Deus fortis, pater futuri sæculi, princeps pacis? Item, Ecce virgo concipiet in utero, et pariet filium; et vocabitur nomen ejus Emma­ nuel? Dicit aliquis, Cum Manichæo certare disposueras, non cum Judæo. Contra Manichæum nova tela sunt necessaria, non antiqua. Quare? Quia novum, non Vetus accipit Testamentum. Sed mihi, qui contra utrosque suscepi certamen, undique arma sunt necessaria; maxime, quia ista nova ex veteribus fabricata sunt: ergo nec illa abji­ cienda, et ista portanda sunt. Diversis enim telis diversi concidunt adversarii. Ordo itaque iste ser­ vandus est, ut loquens de Evangelio, non sileam de Prophetis. Sed ego. inquit Manichaeus, nec Moysen accipio, nec Prophetas. Quid ais de Paulo apo­ stolo, qui in exordio Epistolæ suæ ad Romanos scripsit, Paulus servus Jesu Christi vocatus apostolus, segregatus in Evangelium Dei, quod ante promiserat per Prophetas suos in Scripturis sanctis de Filio suo, qui factus est ei ex semine David secundum carnem? Audis quia Evangelium per Apostolos non exhiberetur, nisi per Prophetas ante promitteretur? Audis quia Filius Dei secundum divi­ nitatem, factus est filius hominis ex semine David secundum carnem? Quid est enim, in quo Prophetæ contrarii sunt Evangelio? Dixit Propheta: Rorate, cæli, desuper, et nubes pluant justum: veniat angelus, prædicet verbum. Aperiatur terra; audiat Maria: et germinet Salvatorem; pariat Jesum. Propheta dixit, Ecce virgo in utero concipiet, et pariet filium; ei vocabi­ tur nomen ejus Emmanuel. Hoc etiam evangelista cum diceret, secutus est et exposuit dicens, Nobiscum Deus. Frustra, Manichæe, conaris adversari Prophetis. Ecce Apostolus dicit, De Filio suo qui fa­ ctus eat ei de semine David secundum carnem (Rom. I, 3). Quod Prophetæ præviderunt et prædixerunt, hoc Apostoli viderunt et prædicaverunt. Qui erat, factus esi. Quid erat? quid factus est? Verbum erat, caro factus esi. Deus erat, homo factus est: Filius Dei erat, Filius hominis factus est. Suscepit humanitatem, non amisit divinitatem: factus humilis, mansit sublimis: natus est homo, non destitit esse Deus: natus est parvulus, latens magnus: qui libenter amplectitur Deum natum, non hor­ reat virginis partum. Dicit tibi Deus creator hominis, filius hominis: Quid est quod te permovet in mea nati­ vitate? Non sum libidinis coneeptus cupiditate. Ego matrem, de qua nascerer, feci; ego viam meo itineri præparavi atque mundavi. Hanc quam despicis, Ma­ n chæe, mater est mea; sed manu fabricata est mea. Si potui inquinari cum eam facerem, potui inqui­ nari cum ex ea nascerer. Sicut transitu meo illius non est corrupta virginitas, sic mea ibi non est maculata majestas. Si solis radius cloacarum sordes desiccare novit, eis inquinari non novit; quanto magis splendor lucis æternæ, in quo nihil inquinamenti incurrit, quocumque radiaverit, mundare potest, ipse pollui non potest? Stulte, unde sordes in virgine matre, ubi non est concubitus cum homine patre? Unde sordes in ea, quae nec concipiendo libidinem, nec pariendo est passa dolorem? Unde sordes in domo, ad quam habitator nullus accessit? Solus ad eam fabricator et dominus ejus venit, vestem quam non habebat, induit; eamque sicut invenit, clausam reliquit. Sicut ille natus est solus inter mortuos liber: sic istius, ex qua natus est, matris pudor solus est inte­ ger. Eva inobediens meruit poenam, Maria obediendo consecuta est gratiam: illa gustando prohibitum ma­ ledicta, hæc credendo angelo est benedicta: illa nobis mortem contulit, hæc vitam nobis peperit. Quid agis, Manichaee? Christianum premis, non Christum de­ fendis. Taceat immunda vanitas, quia munda nata est veritas.

We have spoken not a little of the Son of God according to his divinity, and as far as we could we have not spared the adversaries who resisted; now I wish to come to his incarnation, and the impure Manichaean stands in the way. Why? Because he does not want the Son of God to be called also the son of man. And where is what is written: “Drop down dew, you heavens, from above, and let the clouds rain the Just One; let the earth be opened and bud forth the Savior, and let righteousness spring up together; I the Lord have created him”? Again: “For to us a little child is born, and to us a son is given; and the government is upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, mighty God, Father of the age to come, Prince of peace”? Again: “Behold, a virgin shall conceive in her womb and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel”? Someone says: “You had arranged to fight with the Manichaean, not with the Jew. Against the Manichaean new weapons are needed, not old ones. Why? Because he accepts the New Testament, not the Old.” But I, who have taken up the fight against both, need weapons from every side; especially since these new ones were forged from the old: so those are not to be thrown away, and these are to be carried. For different adversaries fall to different weapons. So this order must be kept, that in speaking of the Gospel I am not silent about the Prophets. “But I,” says the Manichaean, “accept neither Moses nor the Prophets.” What do you say of the apostle Paul, who at the opening of his letter to the Romans wrote: “Paul, servant of Jesus Christ, called an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning his Son, who was made for him from the seed of David according to the flesh”? Do you hear that the Gospel would not be shown forth through the apostles unless it had first been promised through the prophets? Do you hear that the Son of God according to his divinity was made son of man from the seed of David according to the flesh? For in what are the Prophets contrary to the Gospel? The prophet said: “Drop down dew, you heavens, from above, and let the clouds rain the Just One”: let the angel come and preach the word. “Let the earth be opened”: let Mary hear; “and bud forth the Savior”: let her bear Jesus. The prophet said: “Behold, a virgin shall conceive in her womb and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel.” The evangelist too, in saying this, followed it and explained it, saying, “God with us.” In vain, Manichaean, do you try to oppose the Prophets. See, the Apostle says, “Concerning his Son, who was made for him from the seed of David according to the flesh.” What the prophets foresaw and foretold, the apostles saw and preached. He who was, was made. What was he? What was he made? He was the Word; he was made flesh. He was God; he was made man. He was Son of God; he was made son of man. He took up humanity without losing divinity; made lowly, he remained exalted; born a man, he did not cease to be God; born a little child, he was hidden as great. Let whoever gladly embraces God born not shudder at the virgin’s childbirth. God, the creator of man, the son of man, says to you: “What is it that disturbs you in my birth? I was not conceived by the desire of lust. I made the mother of whom I was to be born; I prepared and cleansed the way for my journey. She whom you despise, Manichaean, is my mother; but she was made by my hand. If I could be defiled when I made her, I could be defiled when I was born of her. As her virginity was not corrupted by my passage, so my majesty was not stained there. If the sun’s ray can dry up the filth of sewers and cannot be defiled by them, how much more can the brightness of the eternal light, which incurs no defilement, cleanse wherever it shines, while it cannot itself be polluted?” Fool, whence filth in a virgin mother, where there was no intercourse with a human father? Whence filth in her who suffered neither lust in conceiving nor pain in giving birth? Whence filth in a house which no dweller had approached? Her maker and lord alone came to her; he put on the garment he did not have, and left her closed as he found her. As he alone was born free among the dead, so the modesty of this mother, of whom he was born, alone is intact. Eve, disobedient, deserved punishment; Mary, by obeying, obtained grace: the one was cursed for tasting the forbidden fruit, the other was blessed for believing the angel; the one brought us death, the other bore us life. What are you doing, Manichaean? You oppress the Christian; you do not defend Christ. Let unclean vanity be silent, because clean truth has been born.

Isa 45:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 9:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 7:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:1–3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 88:5 (87:6 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 3:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 1:38 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 1:45 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against the Manichaeans, who deny that the Son of God was born of a woman, the preacher cites the prophets and Paul and argues that the Creator of his mother could not be defiled by being born of her as a virgin.

  • Polemic against the Manichaeans: translated as written. “The brightness of the eternal light” echoes Wis 7:26. The statement that Mary felt no pain in giving birth is the preacher’s.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip; footnote marker removed; footnote marker removed; stray mark removed): Non parmm → Non parum; loculi sumus → locuti sumus; prpercimus → pepercimus; Quare Quia Dei Filium uon vult dici eliam hominis filium Et ubi est quod scriptum cst → Quare? Quia Dei Filium non vult dici etiam hominis filium. Et ubi est quod scriptum est; terT, eI ger → terra, et ger; ego.bominuM → ego Dominus; printe,,, pacis? hem, → princeps pacis? Item,; faln icata → fabricata; itaqoe → itaque; accipio v nec Prophetis. Quid ais I de → accipio, nec Prophetas. Quid ais de; segregatus hi Evangelium → segregatus in Evangelium; Prophetus → Prophetas; carnem 1 Andis → carnem? Audis; Apostolos * non → Apostolos non; fecundum carnem? Quid esi enim → secundum carnem? Quid est enim; ( Rum. I, 3). Quod Propheta præviderunt → (Rom. I, 3). Quod Prophetæ præviderunt; natus est humo, non destititesse → natus est homo, non destitit esse; qui iibenteramplectitur → qui libenter amplectitur; reat3virginis → reat virginis; inquinari * cum → inquinari cum; cjus venit → ejus venit; canique → eamque; inter mortuos liher → inter mortuos liber; ex qoa → ex qua; conscenta cst → consecuta est; munda 3 nata est vcritas → munda nata est veritas.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:26 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Manichaeism, Mary, mother of Jesus

Cite (SBL): Quodvultdeus, Quinq. haer. 5 (PL 42:1105–1107; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/quodvultdeus-quinque-haereses/5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, badly damaged in places; Migne's notes, headings and admonitions removed by logged corrections; some restored readings marked conjectural). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.