On the Complaints of Job and David 1.1–1.29
Latin text: CSEL 32.2 (Latin text: Schenkl/Petschenig, CSEL 32.2, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 1
1.1CSEL 32.2:211
Multas nobis perturbationes in hac uita esse subeundas scriptura diuina frequentibus demonstrat locis multasque suppetere consolationes, quibus animus capax uigoris et recti conscius absorbere debeat quae praesentium incommodorum sunt, spectare ea quae habeant perpetem iocunditatem. praeponderant enim consolationes perturbationibus, quia et praesentium sedationem adferunt et spem futurorum. unde et apostolus Paulus indignae sunt inquit passiones huius temporis ad superuenturam gloriam: indignae utique ad consolationem conparationis, non ad fructum redemptionis.
Divine Scripture shows in many places that we must undergo many disturbances in this life, and that many consolations are at hand, by which a mind capable of vigor and conscious of what is right ought to swallow up the troubles of the present and look to the things that hold lasting delight. For the consolations outweigh the disturbances, because they bring both calm in the present and hope of the future. Hence the apostle Paul too says: “The sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory to come”: not worthy, that is, in comparison with the consolation, not in respect of the fruit of redemption.
Rom 8:18 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Scripture shows that life’s troubles are outweighed by consolations and by the glory to come.
- Rom 8:18.
Topics: Suffering and affliction
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.1 (CSEL 32.2:211; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.2CSEL 32.2:211–212
quae est enim tam praeclara cuiusque uita in terris, ut adaequare illam caelestem gloriam possit? quid sublimius Paulo, qui tantum periculorum subiit, tantum doloris atque infirmitatum absorbuit? in iis quas pro Christi nomine subiit passionibus cottidie, ut ipse dicit, moriebatur et nihil indignum perpeti se in hoc tempore pro tantae gloriae spe atque expectatione censebat. Helias famem insidias mortisque terrores, laborum acerba tolerauit: et tamen solus ille igneis curribus, equis igneis de caelo deductus ad terras et de terris reuectus ad caelum omne meritum militiae huius abscondit atque ultra humana omnia gratiam pii ascensoris euexit. nam de Petro quid loquar? qui crucem suam futura remuneratione indignam arbitratus inuerso suspendi poposcit uestigio, ut aliquid passioni suae adderet, cuius aceruare ipse sibi supplicia nec timeret.
For whose life on earth is so illustrious that it could equal that heavenly glory? What is more sublime than Paul, who underwent so many dangers and swallowed so much pain and weakness? In the sufferings he underwent for the name of Christ he died daily, as he himself says, and he judged that he suffered nothing unworthy in this time compared with the hope and expectation of so great a glory. Elijah endured famine, plots, the terrors of death, the bitterness of labors; and yet he alone, brought down from heaven to earth by fiery chariots and fiery horses and carried back from earth to heaven, hid every merit of this warfare and raised the grace of the devout ascender beyond all things human. And what shall I say of Peter? Judging his cross unworthy of the reward to come, he asked to be hung with his feet upward, so as to add something to his suffering, and he was not afraid to heap up its torments for himself.
1 Cor 15:31 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Kgs 2:11 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 19:2 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: No earthly life equals heavenly glory; Paul, Elijah, and Peter counted their sufferings as nothing beside it.
- 1 Cor 15:31; Rom 8:18; 2 Kgs 2:11. Peter’s crucifixion head downward is from early Christian tradition (e.g. the Acts of Peter).
Topics: Martyrdom, Suffering and affliction
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.2 (CSEL 32.2:211–212; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-2
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1.3CSEL 32.2:212
unde non inmerito sanctus Dauid ad illam gloriam cum in cetero opere tum maxime in quadragensimo primo psalmo se festinare testatus est dicens: quando ueniam et parebo ante faciem dei? in quo psalmo et perturbationes humanae fragilitatis et consolationes a domino euidenter expressit. in quo etiam interpellat pro nobis deum, quod oblitus operis sui, oblitus conlatae in hominem liberalitatis et gratiae quem tuendum atque ornandum susceperat dereliquerit et infirmum ac naufragum diuersis infirmitatibus reiecerit adterendum. quod idem ante ipsum fecerat sanctus Iob, sed iste moralius, ille uehementius. utriusque igitur interpellationes considerare cordi est, quod in his uitae humanae forma exprimitur, causa agitur, praerogatiua formatur. suo igitur ordine spectandae nobis sunt.
Not without reason, then, did holy David testify, in the rest of his work but especially in the forty-first psalm, that he was hastening to that glory, saying: “When shall I come and appear before the face of God?” In that psalm he clearly expressed both the disturbances of human frailty and the consolations from the Lord. In it he also remonstrates with God on our behalf, that, forgetful of his work, forgetful of the generosity and grace bestowed on man, he has forsaken the one he had undertaken to protect and adorn, and has cast him off, weak and shipwrecked, to be worn down by various infirmities. Holy Job had done the same before him, but David more temperately, Job more vehemently. It is my intention, then, to consider the remonstrances of both, because in them the form of human life is expressed, its case is pleaded, its prerogative shaped. So we must look at them in their order.
Ps 42:2 (41:3 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In Psalm 42 David, like Job before him, remonstrates with God over human frailty; both pleas will be examined.
- The psalm is Ps 42 (Vulgate 41); the quotation is Ps 42:2 (Vulgate 41:3). “Remonstrance” renders interpellatio, the work’s title word.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.3 (CSEL 32.2:212; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.4CSEL 32.2:212–213
Amissis itaque Iob liberis atque omnibus suis praeter uxorem, quae sola ei ad temptationem fuerat seruata, perfusus etiam ulcere graui, cum uideret amicos suos non ad consolandum uenisse, sed exaggerandum et aceruandum dolorem, aduertit a domino datam in se aduersario temptandi sui potestatem. et quamuis sagittas domini in corpore suo esse sentiret, quibus se conpungi diceret, tamen quasi bonus athleta, qui dolori non cederet nec dura certaminis recusaret, addidit: incipiens dominus uulneret, in fine autem non me perimat. quae enim mea uirtus, quia sustineo, aut quod meum tempus, ut sufferat anima mea? numquid fortitudo lapidum fortitudo mea aut carnes meae sunt aereae? aut non in ipso confidebam? adiutorium autem a me recessit, uisitatio autem eius despexit me.
So Job, having lost his children and all his possessions except his wife, who alone had been kept to tempt him, and covered besides with a grievous ulcer, when he saw that his friends had come not to console but to aggravate and heap up his pain, perceived that the adversary had been given power by the Lord to tempt him. And although he felt the arrows of the Lord in his body, by which he said he was pierced, yet like a good athlete who would not yield to pain or refuse the hardships of the contest, he added: “Let the Lord begin and wound me, but in the end let him not destroy me. For what is my strength, that I endure? Or what is my time, that my soul should bear it? Is my strength the strength of stones, or is my flesh of bronze? Or did I not trust in him? But help has departed from me, and his visitation has despised me.”
Job 1:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 2:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 6:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 6:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 6:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 6:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 6:13 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job, bereaved and diseased, bore the Lord’s arrows like an athlete and asked not to be destroyed in the end.
- Job 1–2; 6:4, 9–13 in the form of the Greek.
Topics: Suffering and affliction
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.4 (CSEL 32.2:212–213; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.5CSEL 32.2:213
nonne temptamentum est uita hominis in terra et sicut mercennarii cottidiani uita eius aut sicut famulus timens dominum suum, qui se sub umbra optegat, aut sicut mercennarius expectans mercedem suam? sic et ego expectaui menses uacuos, noctes autem dolorum datae sunt mihi. si quiescam, dico: quando dies? si surgam, iterum: quando uesper? plenus sum doloribus a uespere usque mane. fermentatur mihi corpus in putredine uermium, liquefacio autem glaebas terrae saniem radens ulcerum. uita autem mea leuior est fabula, in spe uacua perit. dicam: consolabitur me lectus meus. terres me in somniis et in uisionibus me percellis.
“Is not man’s life on earth a trial, and his life like that of a daily hireling, or like a servant fearing his master, who hides himself under a shadow, or like a hireling awaiting his wages? So I too have waited empty months, and nights of pains have been given me. If I lie down, I say: When will it be day? If I rise, again: When will it be evening? I am full of pains from evening until morning. My body ferments in the rottenness of worms; I dissolve clods of earth, scraping the pus of my sores. My life is lighter than a tale; it perishes in empty hope. I will say: My bed will comfort me. You terrify me in dreams and strike me down in visions.”
Job 7:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:14 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job laments that human life is a hireling’s trial, full of pain day and night.
- Job 7:1–6, 13–14 in the form of the Greek.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (words run together in the digital text): suntmihi. siquiescam → sunt mihi. si quiescam.
Topics: Suffering and affliction
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.5 (CSEL 32.2:213; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.6CSEL 32.2:213–214
Quam misera hominis condicio, quae quasi mercennaria aliis laborat, sibi indiget et nisi aliena misericordia sustentare se nequit! cottidie sub formidine, sub timore grauem tolerans seruitutem et, ne deprehendatur a domino, erratica atque fugitiua sub umbra quadam saeculi huius putat se posse delitiscere. considera illum, de quo ait in Ecclesiastico Sirach: omnis homo transgrediens in lecto suo, contemnens et dicens in anima sua: quis me uidet? tenebrae circumdant me et parietes. quem uereor? nonne tibi uidetur iste uere esse mercennarius, qui..... prodegerit ut ille adulescens in euangelio, qui legitur acceptae a patre substantiae portionem..... et egens atque inops, quo famem leuaret, pascere greges coepit alienos, ut mercede sumptum exerceret suum? sed ille tamen aliquando conuersus, quia reuertit ad patrem et peccata sua non repressit, sed prodidit: hic autem qui se existimat ab eo qui omnia uideat non uideri et tenebris putat commissa sua posse celari umbram praetendit, sed frustra latere se credit, cum oculus domini lucidior sole occulta omnia deprehendat, tenebrosa inluminet et intimi cordis penetret conscientiam atque in alta et profunda descendat. uanus ergo qui putat tenebris esse se tutum, cum lucem uitare non possit, quae lucet in tenebris et tenebrae eam non conprehendunt. quasi fugitiuus itaque et malus mercennarius deprehenditur et antequam se occultet agnoscitur, quia domino omnia antequam quaerat cognita sunt non solum quae facta, sed etiam quae futura.
How wretched is man’s condition, which like a hireling labors for others, is in need for itself, and cannot sustain itself except by another’s mercy! Daily under dread, under fear, enduring heavy servitude, and, so as not to be caught by its master, it thinks that, wandering and fugitive, it can hide under some shadow of this world. Consider that man of whom Sirach says in Ecclesiasticus: “Every man who transgresses on his bed, despising and saying in his soul: Who sees me? Darkness surrounds me and walls. Whom do I fear?” Does he not seem to you truly a hireling, who has squandered … like that young man in the Gospel, of whom we read … the portion of the property received from his father, and needy and destitute, to relieve his hunger, began to feed another’s flocks, so as to earn his keep by wages? But that young man nevertheless turned at last, because he returned to his father and did not suppress his sins but confessed them; whereas this man, who thinks he is not seen by him who sees all things and supposes that his misdeeds can be hidden by darkness, holds up a shadow, but believes in vain that he lies hidden, since the eye of the Lord, brighter than the sun, detects all hidden things, lights up dark things, penetrates the conscience of the inmost heart, and descends into the heights and depths. Vain, then, is he who thinks himself safe in darkness, since he cannot avoid the light which shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. So he is caught like a runaway and a bad hireling, and recognized before he hides himself, because all things are known to the Lord before he seeks them, not only what has been done but also what will be.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Luke 15:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 15:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 15:18 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:5 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Man is like a fugitive hireling who imagines he can hide his sins in darkness, unlike the prodigal who confessed.
- Sir 23:18–19 (Vulgate 23:25–28); Luke 15:12–20; John 1:5; Sir 23:20. The digital text marks two gaps in the sentence about the prodigal son.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray point in the digital text): mercennana → mercennaria; tenebris esse. se tutum → tenebris esse se tutum.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 23:18-19 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.6 (CSEL 32.2:213–214; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.7CSEL 32.2:214–215
perit igitur in uacua spe qui putat quod suum crimen abscondat: fabula est ista, non ueritas. denique fabula peccantium odiosa, non habens fructum, sed gemitum. narratio enim fatui sarcina in uia. quid enim est aliud peccatum nisi sarcina, quod huius saeculi onerat uiatorem graui depressum fasce delicti? qui si nollet oneri subiacere, debuit audire dicentem: uenite ad me omnes qui laboratis et onerati estis, et ego uos reficiam.
So he perishes in empty hope who thinks he can hide his crime: that is a tale, not the truth. Indeed the tale of sinners is hateful, bearing not fruit but groaning. “For the narrative of a fool is a burden on the way.” For what else is sin but a burden, which weighs down the traveller of this world, pressed under the heavy load of transgression? If he did not wish to lie under the burden, he should have listened to the one who says: “Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will refresh you.”
Job 7:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 11:28 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Sin is a fool’s tale and a burden on the road, from which Christ offers rest.
- Job 7:6; Sir 21:16 (Vulgate 21:19); Matt 11:28.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 21:16 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.7 (CSEL 32.2:214–215; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-7
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.8CSEL 32.2:215
Quid autem aerumnosius, cum ipse lectus communem ad quietem datus graue uulnus infligat? tunc enim solemus quae fecimus recordari, et factorum suorum stimulis conpungitur interior conscientia. unde et scriptura ait his: quae dicitis in cordibus uestris et in cubilibus uestris conpungimini? remedium quidem debiti, sed tamen conscientiam uulnerauit. sed esto ut aliquando fessis somnus obrepat, terremur insomniis, exagitamur uisionibus, ut iam non requies ista, sed poena sit. ita enim abeunt diuitiae saeculi uelut somnium exurgentis. surrexit aliqui istius corporis somno, et nihil possedit idque ipsum quod se credebat habere amisit.
What is more miserable than when the very bed given for common rest inflicts a grievous wound? For then we usually recall what we have done, and the inner conscience is pierced by the goads of its own deeds. Hence Scripture says to them: “What you say in your hearts, be pierced on your beds.” It is indeed the remedy of what is owed, but still it has wounded the conscience. But suppose sleep sometimes creeps upon the weary: we are terrified by dreams, harassed by visions, so that it is no longer rest but punishment. For so the riches of the world pass away like the dream of one who wakes. Someone has risen from the sleep of this body and possessed nothing, and lost the very thing he believed he had.
Ps 4:4 (4:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 73:20 (72:20 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Even the bed brings no rest to a troubled conscience, and worldly riches vanish like a dream.
- Ps 4:4 (Vulgate 4:5); Job 7:13–14; Ps 73:20 (Vulgate 72:20).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): sun*exit → surrexit.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.8 (CSEL 32.2:215; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-8
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.9CSEL 32.2:215–216
constituite mihi nunc diuitem illum, qui cotidiana lucra et quaestus uarios congerebat et exagitabatur cupiditatibus suis, subito resipiscentem considerantemque secum quia non cum morietur, accipiet omnia, neque simul descendet cum eo gloria domus eius et quod ea quae possidet in hac uita habeant aliquid uoluptatis, non etiam in futurum, aperientem oculos ad caelestia. nonne tibi uidetur sicut qui in somnis bibebat bibisse et sicut qui in somnis epulabatur epulatus, aperuisse autem oculos et cognouisse quod anima eius inane sperauit et adhuc esuriat et adhuc sitiat, quia modum non habet auaritia nec rapiendo expletur, sed incitatur hoc egentior, quo plura quaesiuerit? et hic ergo surrexit, et uanum est somnium.
Set before me now that rich man who amassed daily gains and various profits and was harassed by his desires, suddenly coming to his senses and considering within himself that when he dies he will not take everything with him, nor will the glory of his house go down with him, and that what he possesses in this life holds some pleasure, but not for the future, and opening his eyes to heavenly things. Does he not seem to you like one who drank in his sleep and thought he had drunk, and feasted in his sleep and thought he had feasted, but opened his eyes and recognized that his soul had hoped in vain and still hungers and still thirsts? For avarice has no measure and is not filled by seizing, but is spurred on and is the more needy the more it has acquired. So this man too has risen, and the dream is vain.
Ps 49:17 (48:18 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 29:8 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The rich man who wakes to heavenly things finds his wealth was an empty dream that never satisfied.
- Ps 49:17 (Vulgate 48:18); Isa 29:8.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR m for in): possidet m hac → possidet in hac.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.9 (CSEL 32.2:215–216; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.10CSEL 32.2:216
Sed iterum ipsum audiamus dicentem. incumbebant illi amici, qui ad consolandum uenerant, et quasi inimici amaris eum perurguebant sermonibus. unum enim solacii genus est in aerumna et amaritudine constitutis culpa uacare, ut ea quae perpetiuntur aduersa non pro delicti pretio sustinere uideantur. hoc quoque uiro sancto adimere gestiebant, ut uideretur ipse suae auctor aerumnae, qui peccatis grauibus domini contraxisset offensam et pro impietatibus suis illa toleraret, describentes impiorum supplicia, qui uitia sererent et meterent sibi dolores, quod mandato perirent dei et spiritu irae ipsius interirent, qui insufflaret domos luteas inhabitantibus et arescerent, cogitationes destitueret uersutorum, os obstrueret iniusti. quae uera quidem de domini potestate, sed non conuenientia tanti uiri meritis adserebant. his ergo respondit: in ueritate noui quia ita est.
But let us hear him speaking again. His friends, who had come to console him, were pressing upon him and, like enemies, urging him with bitter words. For there is one kind of solace for those placed in hardship and bitterness: to be free of fault, so that they do not seem to be suffering their adversities as the price of transgression. This too they were eager to take from the holy man, so that he would seem to be himself the author of his hardship, as one who had incurred the Lord’s offense by grave sins and was suffering for his impieties. They described the punishments of the wicked, who sow vices and reap sorrows for themselves, who perish by the command of God and die by the breath of his anger; who blows upon houses of clay for those who dwell in them and they dry up; who frustrates the thoughts of the crafty and stops the mouth of the unjust. What they asserted was true of the Lord’s power, but not fitting to the merits of so great a man. To these, then, he answered: “In truth I know that it is so.”
Job 4:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 4:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 4:19 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 5:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 5:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 9:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job’s friends tried to rob him of his innocence by describing the punishment of the wicked; he agreed about God’s power.
- Job 4:8–9, 19; 5:12, 16; 9:2.
Topics: Suffering and affliction
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.10 (CSEL 32.2:216; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-10
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.11CSEL 32.2:216–217
quomodo enim iustus mortalis apud dominum? si enim uoluerit iudicio contendere cum eo, non audiet illum, ut non ad unum uerbum eius mille sermonibus contradicat. sapiens est enim intellectu et fortis et magnus. quis tam durus, ut in conspectu eius possit subsistere? qui facit montes inueterescere, et nesciunt, et euertit eos iracundia: qui commouet orbem terrarum a fundamentis, et columnae eius mouentur: qui dicit soli, et non oritur, aduersus sidera autem consignat: qui extendit caelum solus et ambulat sicut in pauimento supra mare: qui facit uirgilias et uesperum et septentrionem et austri ministerium: qui facit magna et inuestigabilia, gloriosa et inmensa, quorum non est numerus. si praeterierit me, non uidebo et si praetergressus me fuerit, nec sic sciam. quanto uehementiore tuba iste increpuit de domini potestate? sed in ea iustorum auxilium, non ruina est. denique uidetur exprimi potentia, sed magis redemptionis nostrae mysteria declarantur.
“For how can a mortal be just before the Lord? For if he wishes to contend with him in judgment, he will not hear him, so as not to answer one word of his with a thousand. For he is wise in understanding and strong and great. Who is so hard as to be able to stand in his sight? He makes the mountains grow old, and they do not know it, and overturns them in his anger; he shakes the world from its foundations, and its pillars are moved; he speaks to the sun, and it does not rise, and he seals up against the stars; he alone stretches out the heaven and walks as on a pavement upon the sea; he makes the Pleiades and Hesperus and the north and the chambers of the south; he does great and unsearchable things, glorious and immense, without number. If he passes by me, I shall not see him; and if he goes past me, even so I shall not know it.” With how much more vehement a trumpet did he sound forth the Lord’s power? But in it is the help of the just, not their ruin. Indeed, his might seems to be expressed, but even more the mysteries of our redemption are declared.
Job 9:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:11 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Job proclaims God’s overwhelming power, in which Ambrose finds the mysteries of redemption.
- Job 9:2–11 in the form of the Greek.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.11 (CSEL 32.2:216–217; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.12CSEL 32.2:217–218
Qui sunt enim montes quos inueterescere fecit nisi Moyses, Aaron, Iesus Naue, Gedeon, prophetae, omnes libri ueteris testamenti? uenit Iesus dominus: nouum detulit testamentum, et illud quod erat uetus factum est. innouatus est Christianus, inueterauit Iudaeus: renouata est gratia, inueterauit littera. euertit montes et conuertit. euertit enim et subruit intellectum secundum litteram et statuit intellegentiam spiritalem. intellectus ergo legis ille carnalis euanuit: facta est spiritalis. unde apostolus ait: scimus autem quia lex spiritalis est, ego autem carnalis sum. sed et ipse qui carnalis erat factus est spiritalis, sicut ipse asseruit dicens: puto enim et ego spiritum dei habeo. hos ergo montes inueterauit Iesus, et Iudaei nesciunt. si enim cognouissent, numquam dominum maiestatis crucifixissent, numquam Iudaica adhuc deliramenta sequerentur. ipsi sunt ergo qui nesciunt. unde et in euangelio dicit dominus Iesus: dimitte illis, pater, quia nesciunt quid faciunt.
For who are the mountains he made to grow old but Moses, Aaron, Joshua son of Nun, Gideon, the prophets, all the books of the Old Testament? The Lord Jesus came; he brought a new testament, and that which was old became old. The Christian was renewed, the Jew grew old; grace was renewed, the letter grew old. He overturned the mountains and turned them about. For he overturned and undermined the understanding according to the letter and established spiritual understanding. So that carnal understanding of the law vanished; it became spiritual. Hence the apostle says: “We know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal.” But even he who was carnal became spiritual, as he himself asserted, saying: “For I think that I too have the Spirit of God.” These mountains, then, Jesus made to grow old, and the Jews do not know it. For had they known, they would never have crucified the Lord of majesty, never would they still follow Jewish follies. So they are the ones who do not know. Hence in the Gospel the Lord Jesus says: “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”
Heb 8:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 7:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 7:40 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 23:34 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 3:6 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The aging mountains are the Old Testament, made old by Christ’s new covenant; the Jews, not knowing this, crucified the Lord.
- Ambrose’s polemic against the Jews is translated as written. Rom 7:14; 1 Cor 7:40; 1 Cor 2:8; Luke 23:34; Heb 8:13.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.12 (CSEL 32.2:217–218; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.13CSEL 32.2:218
sed non excusantur, quia nesciunt, cum scire nolint quod debuerunt cognoscere. certe non illis inuidemus, domini si sententiam sequantur: sententia enim superiora solet absoluere, non futura. sed nec ille inmunis a scelere qui crucifixit suae auctorem salutis et postea ueniam non poposcit. esto ut ante ignorauerit quem persequebatur: in cruce tamen positum debuit recognoscere uniuersorum esse dominum elementorum, sub quo omnia elementa tremuerunt, caelum obscuratum est, sol refugit, terra dissiluit, defunctorum sepulchra patuerunt, mortui uiuentium recepere consortia. unde et centurio dixit: uere filius dei erat iste. centurio agnoscit alienum, Leuita non recognoscit suum: gentilis ueneratur, Hebraeus abiurat. non inmerito ergo columnae orbis terrarum motae sunt, quando non crediderunt principes sacerdotum: sed motae sunt ueteres, ut nouae confirmarentur, sicut ipse dignatus est dicere: ego confirmaui columnas eius. audi quas columnas confirmauerit: Petrus et Iacobus et Iohannes. qui uidebantur columnae esse, dextras dederunt mihi et Barnabae communionis.
But they are not excused because they do not know, since they refuse to know what they ought to have recognized. Certainly we do not begrudge them, if they follow the Lord’s sentence; for a sentence usually absolves past things, not future. But not even he is free of crime who crucified the author of his salvation and afterwards did not ask for pardon. Suppose he did not know before whom he was persecuting: yet when he was placed on the cross he ought to have recognized him as the Lord of all the elements, under whom all the elements trembled: the sky was darkened, the sun fled, the earth split, the tombs of the dead opened, the dead received again the company of the living. Hence the centurion too said: “Truly this was the Son of God.” The centurion recognizes one not his own, the Levite does not recognize his own; the Gentile reveres, the Hebrew abjures. Not without reason, then, were the pillars of the world shaken, when the chief priests did not believe; but the old ones were shaken so that the new might be made firm, as he himself deigned to say: “I have made firm its pillars.” Hear which pillars he made firm: “Peter and James and John, who seemed to be pillars, gave the right hand of fellowship to me and Barnabas.”
Matt 27:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:51 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:52 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:54 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 75:3 (74:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 2:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Those who crucified Christ without repenting are not excused; the old pillars were shaken and the apostles made new pillars.
- Translated as written; Ambrose’s contrast of “the Gentile” and “the Hebrew” is his. Matt 27:45, 51–54; Ps 75:3 (Vulgate 74:4); Gal 2:9.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.13 (CSEL 32.2:218; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.14CSEL 32.2:218–220
Quomodo ergo excusant nescisse se, quorum alii uiderunt, alii cognouerunt solem non expleto diei curriculo recepisse se et rursus ante peractum spatium noctis egressum noctem in die fecisse, in nocte diem. utique intellegere debuerunt quia sol iussus se recepit et iussus exiuit. praescripserat enim dominus quia tribus diebus futurus erat in corde terrae et tribus noctibus: didicit hoc sol, seruabat praeceptum. dubitabat ergo dicens: quid facio? orior et dies est, occido et nox est. si cursum meum seruauero, demorabor mundi salutem. festinemus ad redemptionem etiam nostram: festinare debeo etiam ipse ad nouam uitam; erit enim beneficio crucis, qua uniuersa renouantur, et sol nouus et caelum nouum. festino ergo ut illum possim uidere solem iustitiae inluminantem animas uniuersorum. sed quid faciam? ipse uult post triduum fieri resurrectionem. inueni quid faciam, ut et moras non faciam et numerum dierum custodiam. non faciam integrum diem et integram noctem. adbreuiabo horas, ut tribus quidem diebus et noctibus sit inter mortuos dominus Iesus, citius tamen quam trium dierum et noctium interualla patiuntur resurgat a mortuis. adbreuiabo igitur horas, ubi ascenderit crucem. a sexta hora statim fiat nox, ne uideam domini passionem, sed fugiam parricidalis persecutionis spectaculum. occidam et erit nox horarum trium, egrediar et innouabo diem, ut sit horarum trium: percursus est primus dies, sequetur nox secunda spatio suo, sequetur similiter dies: incipiet nox tertia, resurget dominus in nocte, et erit dies in lumine resurgentis, ut compleatur illud: et nox tamquam dies inluminabitur. hic est ille dies magnus. quem Abraham uidit et gauisus est, de quo et Dauid dixit: hic est dies, quem fecit dominus; exultemus et laetemur in eo, cui non ministerio laboris, sed fructu exultationis interero.
How then do they plead that they did not know, some of whom saw, and others learned, that the sun withdrew before the day’s course was complete and came out again before the space of night had passed, making night in day and day in night? Surely they ought to have understood that the sun withdrew at command and came out at command. For the Lord had foretold that he would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth; the sun learned this and kept the precept. So it was in doubt, saying: “What shall I do? I rise, and it is day; I set, and it is night. If I keep my course, I shall delay the world’s salvation. Let us hasten to our own redemption too; I too ought to hasten to new life; for by the benefit of the cross, by which all things are renewed, there will be a new sun and a new heaven. I hasten, then, so that I may see that Sun of righteousness enlightening the souls of all. But what shall I do? He wants the resurrection to take place after three days. I have found what to do, so that I may make no delay and yet keep the number of the days. I will not make a whole day and a whole night. I will shorten the hours, so that the Lord Jesus may be among the dead for three days and nights, yet rise from the dead sooner than the intervals of three days and nights allow. I will shorten the hours, then, when he has mounted the cross. From the sixth hour let it at once be night, so that I may not see the Lord’s passion but flee the spectacle of a parricidal persecution. I will set, and there will be a night of three hours; I will come out and renew the day, so that it may be of three hours: the first day is run through; the second night will follow in its own space; likewise the day will follow; the third night will begin; the Lord will rise in the night, and there will be day in the light of the one rising, so that this may be fulfilled: ‘And the night will be lit up like the day.’ This is that great day which Abraham saw and rejoiced, of which David too said: ‘This is the day which the Lord has made; let us exult and rejoice in it,’ in which I shall take part not by the service of labor but by the fruit of exultation.”
Matt 12:40 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Mal 4:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 139:12 (138:12 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:56 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 118:24 (117:24 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The darkness at the crucifixion is explained by the sun’s shortening the days so that Christ might rise sooner and still fulfill three days and nights.
- Ambrose imagines the sun speaking. Matt 12:40; 27:45; Mal 4:2; Ps 139:12 (Vulgate 138:12); John 8:56; Ps 118:24 (Vulgate 117:24).
Topics: Passion and death of Christ
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.14 (CSEL 32.2:218–220; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.15CSEL 32.2:220–222
Ipse ergo dominus diem ducet, et ante mundi consummationem mundi uidebitur lumen, quod inluminat omnem hominem uenientem in hunc mundum. ipse est dominus qui signat et numerat multitudinem stellarum: ipse est qui caelum solus extendit, qui ambulauit tamquam in pauimento super mare, quando Petrus eum uidit ambulantem et dixit: domine. iube me ad te uenire super aquas. et iussit dominus, sed ille titubauit et nisi porrexisset ei dexteram dominus, demersus fluctibus occidisset. titubauit caro, saluauit dextera. et ait illi: modicae fidei, quare dubitasti? fides ergo ambulauit in apostolo, non caro. denique fides titubauit, et caro coeperat sentire naufragium. quod non inproprie dictum est, quia caro nauis est animae, sicut scriptum est: qui descendunt mare in nauibus et alibi: ibi dolores sicut parturientis. in spiritu uehementi conteres naues Tharsis. animae enim nostrae cum uerbum parturiunt, edunt dolores: quae autem peperit iam non meminit tristitiae propter gaudium, quia natus est illi homo, qui mundum redemit. naues ergo Tharsis, id est intellegibiles, quae Solomoni aurum ferebant atque argentum, id est corpora nostra, quae habent thensaurum in uasis fictilibus, ut apostolus dixit, uel quod etiam hic partus dubio conteruntur, iuxta quod dictum est: uae praegnantibus et nutrientibus! — nam cum anima quatitur, caro fluctuat — uel spiritu uehementi exagitabuntur infuso, cum expleto tempore fuerit resurgendum, secundum quod scriptum est: ueni, spiritus, et insuffla in mortuos istos, et uiuent. unde et ipse Iob in posterioribus dicit: noui enim quia aeternus et potens est qui soluturus est me in terra resuscitare meam pellem, quae portauit. conteruntur autem, quia in iudicium resuscitantur. est autem bona contritio; cor enim contritum et humiliatum deus non spernit et alibi: sana contritiones eius. sed et ad Iosaphat dictum est: contritae sunt ire in Tharsis, eo quod se sacrilego miscuisset. utrumque igitur contritio significat, quia utrumque est in die iudicii, quando omnes qui in monumentis sunt audient uocem fili dei et procedent, qui bona fecerunt in resurrectionem uitae, qui male egerunt in resurrectionem iudicii. quod etiam Dauid propheta significat dicens: ibi dolores parturientis. sicut audiuimus, ita et uidimus in ciuitate domini uirtutum, in ciuitate dei nostri. namque et dolorem futurum et laetitiam conprehendit, dolorem de iudicio, de absolutione laetitiam.
The Lord himself, then, will lead the day, and before the end of the world the light of the world will be seen, which enlightens every man coming into this world. He is the Lord who seals and numbers the multitude of the stars; he is the one who alone stretches out the heaven, who walked as on a pavement upon the sea, when Peter saw him walking and said: “Lord, bid me come to you on the waters.” And the Lord bade him, but he faltered, and had the Lord not stretched out his right hand to him, he would have sunk in the waves and perished. The flesh faltered, the right hand saved. And he said to him: “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?” So it was faith that walked in the apostle, not flesh. Indeed faith faltered, and the flesh had begun to feel shipwreck. This is said not improperly, because the flesh is the ship of the soul, as it is written: “Those who go down to the sea in ships,” and elsewhere: “There pains as of a woman in labor. With a vehement wind you will shatter the ships of Tarshish.” For our souls, when they are in labor with the Word, bring forth pains; but she who has given birth no longer remembers the sorrow for joy, because a man is born to her, who redeemed the world. The ships of Tarshish, then, that is, spiritual ships, which brought Solomon gold and silver, are our bodies, which have a treasure in earthen vessels, as the apostle said; or because here too they are shattered in doubtful childbirth, according to what is said: “Woe to those who are pregnant and nursing!” (for when the soul is shaken, the flesh is tossed); or they will be stirred by the vehement Spirit poured in, when at the completion of time they must rise, according to what is written: “Come, Spirit, and breathe into these dead, and they will live.” Hence Job himself says further on: “For I know that he is eternal and mighty who will loose me on the earth, to raise up my skin, which has endured these things.” They are shattered, then, because they are raised to judgment. But there is a good shattering; for “a contrite and humbled heart God does not despise,” and elsewhere: “Heal its breaches.” But to Jehoshaphat too it was said: “They were shattered so as not to go to Tarshish,” because he had joined himself with a sacrilegious man. Shattering, then, signifies both things, because both are in the day of judgment, when all who are in the tombs will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. The prophet David too signifies this, saying: “There pains of a woman in labor. As we have heard, so have we seen in the city of the Lord of hosts, in the city of our God.” For he includes both the pain and the joy to come: pain at the judgment, joy at the acquittal.
John 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 147:4 (146:4 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Job 9:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 14:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 107:23 (106:23 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 48:6 (47:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 48:7 (47:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:21 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 10:22 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 24:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 37:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 51:17 (50:19 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 60:2 (59:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Chr 20:37 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:28 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 48:8 (47:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Christ walking on the sea and the ships of Tarshish show that the flesh is the soul’s ship, shattered unto judgment or to good contrition.
- John 1:9; Ps 147:4; Job 9:8; Matt 14:28–31; Ps 107:23 (Vulgate 106:23); Ps 48:6–8 (Vulgate 47:7–9); John 16:21; 1 Kgs 10:22; 2 Cor 4:7; Matt 24:19; Ezek 37:9; Job 19:25–26 in the form of the Greek; Ps 51:17 (Vulgate 50:19); Ps 60:2 (Vulgate 59:4); 2 Chr 20:37; John 5:28–29.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR m for in; OCR slip; stray letter in the digital text): I Ipse ergo → Ipse ergo; inpropiie → inproprie; fecerunt m resurrectionem → fecerunt in resurrectionem.
Topics: Eschatology, The last judgment, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.15 (CSEL 32.2:220–222; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.16CSEL 32.2:222
Sed ad propositae nobis interpellationis seriem reuertamur. multas inquit contritiones fecit mihi. respirare me non sinit, impleuit me amaritudine; et quia uirtute est potens, nemo potest iudicio eius resistere. si iustus sum corde, lingua mea errat. magnum et potentem disperdit ira. improbi in morte graui, iusti autem inridentur; dati sunt enim in manus impii. uide singula. potentibus ira sua est grauis, improbis nequitia. iustis condicionis infirmitas. ita nihil periculo uacat. fortitudo et magnitudo uiri sua potestate decipitur, improbitas adflictatur, uirtus ridetur. ille, quia plus potest, labitur, iste, quia nihil potest, adfligitur. condicionis est uitium, quia uita nostra leuior est cursore; transiuit, et nihil uidit. tamquam nauis uestigium aut aquilae uolantis quaerentis escam, ita praeterit et uita hominis. quod loquimur, obliuiscimur, nec ullum transitus nostri insigne deprehenditur nisi quod sit plenum maeroris et gemitus. concutior inquit omnibus membris. utinam sit mediator noster et arguens et diiudicans inter utrumque nostrum.
But let us return to the course of the remonstrance before us. “He has made many breaches in me,” he says. “He does not let me breathe; he has filled me with bitterness; and because he is mighty in strength, no one can resist his judgment. If I am just in heart, my tongue goes astray. Wrath destroys the great and mighty. The wicked are in grievous death, but the just are mocked; for they have been given into the hands of the wicked.” Look at each point. To the mighty their own wrath is grievous, to the wicked their wickedness, to the just the infirmity of their condition. So nothing is free from danger. A man’s strength and greatness is deceived by its own power; wickedness is afflicted; virtue is mocked. The one falls because he can do more; the other is afflicted because he can do nothing. It is a fault of our condition, because our life is swifter than a runner; it has passed and seen nothing. Like the track of a ship, or of an eagle flying in search of food, so too the life of man passes. What we say we forget, and no mark of our passing is detected except what is full of sorrow and groaning. “I am shaken,” he says, “in all my limbs. Would that there were a mediator for us, both to reprove and to judge between us both.”
Job 9:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 9:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:19 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 9:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 9:24 (quotation, medium confidence) · Job 9:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 9:33 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Job laments that the mighty, the wicked, and the just all suffer, and that life passes like a ship’s wake; he longs for a mediator.
- Job 9:17–28, 33 in the form of the Greek, freely abridged.
Topics: Suffering and affliction
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.16 (CSEL 32.2:222; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.17CSEL 32.2:222–223
dicam domino: quare sic me iudicas? an bonum tibi est ut ego iniustus sim, quia reppulisti opera manuum tuarum et consilio impiorum intendisti? numquid sicut mortalis uidet, sic uideas? aut uita tua sicut hominis aut anni tui sicut uiri, quia exquisisti iniquitates meas et peccata mea inuestigasti? nosti enim quia impie non gessi; sed quia est qui de manibus tuis eruat? magna fides, magna auctoritas conscientiae deum testem suae mentis arcessere. quod condicionis est non negat, quod impietatis repellit, quod infirmitatis fatetur. peccasse condicionis est, quia nemo inmunis est lapsus: impie agere non condicionis, sed perfidiae et nequissimae mentis uenenum est. non agnoscit hoc iustus, sed absolutio hominis in dei miseratione, non hominis potestate est.
“I will say to the Lord: Why do you judge me so? Is it good for you that I should be unjust, because you have rejected the works of your hands and attended to the counsel of the wicked? Do you see as a mortal sees? Or is your life like a man’s, or your years like a man’s, that you have sought out my iniquities and searched out my sins? For you know that I have not acted impiously; but who is there to deliver from your hands?” Great faith, great authority of conscience, to summon God as witness of one’s own mind! He does not deny what belongs to our condition; he repels what belongs to impiety; he confesses what belongs to weakness. To have sinned belongs to our condition, because no one is free from falling; to act impiously belongs not to our condition but to faithlessness and is the poison of a most wicked mind. The just man does not acknowledge this; but man’s acquittal lies in God’s mercy, not in man’s power.
Job 10:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:7 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Job appeals to God as witness that, though a sinner like all, he has not acted impiously.
- Job 10:2–7 in the form of the Greek.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): tuaum → tuarum; impoiorum → impiorum.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.17 (CSEL 32.2:222–223; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.18CSEL 32.2:223
manus tuae inquit plasmauerunt me: postea conuertisti et perculisti me. memento quia lutum me fecisti et in terram me resolues. numquid non ut lac me mulsisti, confecisti me sicut caseum? corium et carnem me induisti, ossibus et neruis me inseruisti: uitam autem et misericordiam posuisti in me, et uisitatio tua protexit spiritum meum. quanta deploratio sancti uiri pro communi infirmitate, quanta conuentionis auctoritas, quod deus hominem manibus suis fecerit? excusatur culpa infirmitatis optentu, commendatur gratia priuilegio operationis aeternae et protectionis dignatione caelestis. de quo loco etiam Dauid pulcherrime locutus est dicens: quid est homo quod memor es eius, aut filius hominis nisi quia uisitas eum?
“Your hands,” he says, “formed me; afterwards you turned and struck me. Remember that you made me of clay and will return me to the earth. Did you not milk me like milk and curdle me like cheese? You clothed me with skin and flesh, you knit me together with bones and sinews; you put life and mercy in me, and your visitation guarded my spirit.” What a lament of the holy man for our common weakness, what authority in his plea, that God made man with his own hands! The fault is excused by the plea of weakness; grace is commended by the privilege of an eternal work and the condescension of heavenly protection. On this passage David too spoke most beautifully, saying: “What is man that you are mindful of him, or the son of man that you visit him?”
Job 10:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 8:4 (8:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Job pleads that God himself formed him; David too marvels at God’s care for man.
- Job 10:8–12; Ps 8:4 (Vulgate 8:5).
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.18 (CSEL 32.2:223; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.19CSEL 32.2:223–224
Haec inquit habens in te noui quia omnia potes, inpossibile autem tibi nihil. si enim peccauero, custodies me, ab iniquitate autem inmaculatum me non fecisti. si impius fuero, uae mihi! si sim iustus, non possum me erigere; plenus enim sum confusionis. inuestigor sicut leo ad necem. uide tria: si peccauero, inquit custodies me: et ideo, o homo, fatere peccatum, ut ueniam consequaris. dic iniquitates tuas, ut iustificeris. quid erubescis fateri eas, in quibus natus es? negantis, non fatentis est crimen negare quod natus sis. quod accepisti utinam serues. cur putes te habere quod non acceperis? ergo peccator fateatur, impius ingemiscat, iustus non se erigat et extollat, ne per arrogantiam fructum iustitiae amittat.
“Having these things in you,” he says, “I know that you can do all things, and nothing is impossible to you. For if I sin, you will guard me; but you have not made me spotless from iniquity. If I am wicked, woe to me! If I am just, I cannot lift myself up; for I am full of confusion. I am hunted like a lion for the slaughter.” See three things: “If I sin,” he says, “you will guard me.” And so, O man, confess your sin, that you may obtain pardon. Tell your iniquities, that you may be justified. Why do you blush to confess those in which you were born? It is a crime of one who denies, not of one who confesses, to deny that you were born. Would that you kept what you received! Why do you think you have what you did not receive? So let the sinner confess, let the wicked groan, let the just not lift himself up and exalt himself, lest through arrogance he lose the fruit of righteousness.
Job 10:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 43:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 51:5 (50:7 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 4:7 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Job’s words teach that sinners should confess, the wicked lament, and the just avoid pride.
- Job 10:13–16 in the form of the Greek; Isa 43:26; Ps 51:5 (Vulgate 50:7); 1 Cor 4:7.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word in the digital text): custodies m e → custodies me.
Topics: Repentance
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.19 (CSEL 32.2:223–224; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.20CSEL 32.2:224
et pulchre ait: si iustus sum, me non possum erigere; plenus enim sum confusionis. iustus enim aduertit magis fragilitatem suam quam in.... sapiens agnoscit, non agnoscit insipiens. denique lapsibus suis sapiens conpungitur, insipiens delectatur: iustus accusator est sui, iniustus adsertor; iustus praeuenire uult accusatorem confessione peccati, iniustus peccatum suum occultare desiderat. ille in principio sermonis occurrit, ut prodat errorem, iste multiloquio sermonis sui somnum accusationis inuoluit, ne prodat errorem.
And he says beautifully: “If I am just, I cannot lift myself up; for I am full of confusion.” For the just man pays more attention to his frailty than to … The wise man recognizes it, the foolish does not. Indeed the wise man is pierced by his falls, the fool delights in them; the just man is his own accuser, the unjust his own defender; the just man wishes to forestall his accuser by confessing his sin, the unjust desires to hide his sin. The one comes forward at the beginning of his speech to reveal his error; the other, with his many words, lulls the accusation to sleep so as not to reveal his error.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Job 10:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 18:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Prov 10:19 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: The just man accuses himself and confesses at once; the unjust hides his sin in many words.
- Job 10:15; Prov 18:17 in the form of the Greek (“the just man is his own accuser at the beginning of his speech”); Prov 10:19. The digital text marks a gap after “than to.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR l for i): si lustus sum → si iustus sum.
Topics: Repentance
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.20 (CSEL 32.2:224; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.21CSEL 32.2:224–225
Iterum adiciens dicit: quare adscripsisti aduersum me mala et adposuisti mihi adulescentiae peccata? pulchre id aetatis arripuit ad querellam, quae magis ad uitium lubrica esse consueuit. habet enim pueritia innocentiam, senectus prudentiam, ipsa uicina adulescentiae iuuentas bonae existimationis intuitum et uerecundiam delinquendi: adulescentia sola est inualida uiribus, infirma consiliis, uitio calens, fastidiosa monitoribus, inlecebrosa deliciis. in tanto igitur et tam confragoso et procelloso mundi istius turbine, cur tam crebra naufragia inprouidae adscribuntur aetati? unde praeclare Dauid totius temporis eius ueniam sibi a domino postulauit dicens: delictum iuuentutis meae et ignorantiae ne memineris, quia tunc maxime calor corporis feruet et aestu sanguinis uaporantis ignescit.
Adding again, he says: “Why have you written bitter things against me and laid upon me the sins of my youth?” Beautifully he seized on that age for his complaint, which is usually more slippery toward vice. For childhood has innocence, old age prudence, and young manhood, which borders on adolescence, a regard for good reputation and shame at offending; adolescence alone is weak in strength, infirm in counsel, hot with vice, disdainful of advisers, enticed by delights. In so great, so rugged and stormy a whirlwind of this world, why are such frequent shipwrecks charged to an improvident age? Hence David splendidly asked pardon of the Lord for that whole period of his life, saying: “Remember not the sins of my youth and of my ignorance,” because then above all the heat of the body boils and is set aflame by the surge of steaming blood.
Job 13:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 25:7 (24:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job and David ask pardon for the sins of youth, the age most prone to vice.
- Job 13:26; Ps 25:7 (Vulgate 24:7).
Topics: Forgiveness of sins
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.21 (CSEL 32.2:224–225; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.22CSEL 32.2:225
Sed iterum ipsum audiamus. mortalis inquit filius mulieris breuis uitae est et plenus iracundiae, qui sicut flos floruit et cecidit, discedit autem ut umbra et non resistit. nonne et ab hoc ratio quaeritur, et hunc fecisti intrare in iudicium sub conspectu tuo? quis autem mundus est a sorde? sed nemo, etiam si unius diei sit uita eius super terram. uere miserabilis condicio, ut peccati sui, quod uitare non possit, rationem praestare cogatur, iudicium intrare, in conspectum subire domini omnipotentis conpellitur, edere causas gestorum suorum, quae tot uitae suae aetatibus percurrerit, cum mundus a peccato quiuis esse non possit, ut ab ipsis incunabulis prius obrepat infantiae culpa quam sit ullus sensus erroris. quamque illud miserabile, ut breuis sit uita eius, dulcis inlecebra, multiplex aerumna, iracundia cottidiana. itaque in exigua delectatione amaritudo perpetua est.
But let us hear him again. “Mortal man, born of woman,” he says, “is short of life and full of wrath; like a flower he bloomed and fell, and he departs like a shadow and does not stay. Is not an account required even of him, and have you made him enter into judgment in your sight? Who is clean from filth? No one, even if his life on earth be of one day.” Truly a pitiable condition, that he is compelled to render an account of his sin, which he cannot avoid, to enter into judgment, to come into the sight of the almighty Lord, to set out the grounds of his deeds, which he has run through in so many ages of his life, since no one can be clean from sin, so that from the very cradle fault creeps upon infancy before there is any sense of error. And how pitiable this too, that his life is short, its enticement sweet, its hardship manifold, its wrath daily. And so in a slight delight there is lasting bitterness.
Job 14:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:5 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Man’s life is short and stained by sin from the cradle, yet he must give account before God.
- Job 14:1–5 in the form of the Greek.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (page number in the digital text): super 634 terram → super terram.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.22 (CSEL 32.2:225; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.23CSEL 32.2:225–226
est inquit arbori spes; si enim fuerit excisa, uiridescet et, si in petra mortuus ramus eius fuerit, ab odore aquae florebit, faciet autem messem sicut nouella. uir autem defunctus abiit, cadens autem mortalis homo non ultra est. tempore autem fluctuat mare. spectauimus prophetici sermonis <seriem> ex duobus inferioribus elementis, terra ac mari. quae omni iniuriae crebrisque tempestatibus subiacent. quam ualidum argumentum nostrae expressit aerumnae! terrena, inquit, uirgulta nemorosaque arborum, etiam cum fuerint mortua, in usus uitales resurgunt. mare quoque ipsum temporum solet uicibus fluctuare. at uero caro nostra semper exaestuat sibique ipsa tempestas est nec umquam a motibus procellarum miserandisque naufragiis feriatur.
“There is hope for a tree,” he says; “for if it is cut down, it will grow green again, and if its branch has died on the rock, it will flower at the scent of water and produce a harvest like a young plant. But a man, when he dies, is gone; and mortal man, when he falls, is no more. For the sea rages only for a time.” We have looked at the course of the prophetic speech, drawn from the two lower elements, earth and sea, which are subject to every injury and frequent storms. How strong an argument he has expressed of our hardship! The shrubs of the earth and the leafy trees, he says, even when they have died, rise again for the uses of life. The sea too usually rages only by turns of the seasons. But our flesh is always in turmoil and is a storm to itself, and never has a holiday from the motions of storms and pitiable shipwrecks.
Job 14:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:11 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Trees revive and the sea has its seasons, but man’s flesh is a ceaseless storm.
- Job 14:7–11 in the form of the Greek. “Course” (seriem) is supplied by the editor.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR dropped letters): cadens autem otalis homo → cadens autem mortalis homo.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.23 (CSEL 32.2:225–226; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.24CSEL 32.2:226–227
Cum autem dormierit, non resurget usque dum caelum non adsuatur. quod uidetur declarare, donec caelum nouetur; erit enim caelum nouum et terra noua, sicut scriptum est. quod enim adsuitur uetus est, quod uetus est mutabitur. denique audi dicentem: initio terram tu fundasti, domine, et opera manuum tuarum sunt caeli. ipsi peribunt, tu autem permanes, et omnes sicut uestimentum ueterescent, et sicut opertorium mutabis eos et mutabuntur. possumus etiam illud adtexere, quoniam quod uetus est adsuitur, quod nouum cogitur. a diebus autem Iohannis Baptistae regnum caelorum cogitur, et cogentes diripiunt illud. adsuebat ergo illud synagoga in paucis, ecclesia cogit in milibus, uel quia nunc adsui caelum uidetur nebulis et caligine nocturnisque tenebris et croceo diei surgentis rubore diuersa ac discolora specie saepe contextum — tunc autem nox non erit amplius et non indigebunt luce lucernae et lumine solis. quia dominus inluminabit super eos, sicut dixit Iohannes — uel quia uae his qui adsuunt ceruicalia ad euertendas animas populi.
“But when he has fallen asleep, he will not rise until the heaven is not sewn together.” This seems to declare: until the heaven is renewed; for there will be a new heaven and a new earth, as it is written. For what is sewn is old, and what is old will be changed. Indeed, hear him who says: “In the beginning you founded the earth, O Lord, and the heavens are the works of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; and they will all grow old like a garment, and like a covering you will change them, and they will be changed.” We can also add this, that what is old is sewn, what is new is gathered. “From the days of John the Baptist the kingdom of heaven is taken by force, and the forceful seize it.” So the synagogue was sewing it in a few; the church gathers it in thousands. Or because now the heaven seems sewn together with clouds and mist and nocturnal darkness and the saffron blush of the rising day, often woven of varied and many-colored appearance; but then there will be no more night, and they will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, because the Lord will shine on them, as John said. Or because “woe to those who sew pillows to overturn the souls of the people.”
Job 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 21:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 102:25 (101:26 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 102:26 (101:27 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 22:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 13:18 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The dead will not rise until the heavens are no longer “sewn,” that is, until they are renewed in the new creation.
- Job 14:12 in the form of the Greek (“until the heaven is unstitched”); Rev 21:1; Ps 102:25–26 (Vulgate 101:26–27); Matt 11:12, where cogitur (“is gathered, is forced”) allows Ambrose’s pun; Rev 22:5; Ezek 13:18.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR n for u; stray numeral in the digital text): 24 Cum autem → Cum autem; uel quia nae his → uel quia uae his.
Topics: Eschatology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.24 (CSEL 32.2:226–227; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.25CSEL 32.2:227
deploranti prophetae miseriam nostrae fragilitatis, quae et in hac uita requiem non haberet et uniuersa subito incursu mortis amitteret, spiritus sanctus infudit tamdiu non resurrecturos homines, donec ueniret qui non adsueret uetera nouis nec uestimentum nouum conmitteret in uestimentum uetus, sed omnia faceret noua, sicut ipse dixit: ecce faciam noua. ipse est enim resurrectio, primogenitus ex mortuis, in quo omnes quidem praerogatiuam futurae resurrectionis accepimus: solus tamen adhuc resurrectione perpetua resurrecxit.
To the prophet lamenting the misery of our frailty, which would have no rest in this life and would lose everything by the sudden onset of death, the Holy Spirit poured in the knowledge that men would not rise until he came who would not sew old things to new nor put a new garment onto an old garment, but would make all things new, as he himself said: “Behold, I will make new things.” For he is the resurrection, the firstborn from the dead, in whom we have all received the prerogative of the resurrection to come; yet he alone so far has risen by an everlasting resurrection.
Matt 9:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 21:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 11:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:18 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: The Spirit revealed to Job that the dead would rise only when Christ came to make all things new.
- Matt 9:16; Rev 21:5; John 11:25; Col 1:18.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.25 (CSEL 32.2:227; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.26CSEL 32.2:227–228
Audito igitur quid locutus esset in eo deus et cognito per spiritum sanctum quod filius dei non solum ueniret in terras, sed etiam descensurus esset ad inferos, ut mortuos resuscitaret — quod tunc quidem factum est ad testimonium praesentium et exemplum futurorum — conuersus ad dominum ait: utinam in inferno me conseruares, absconderes autem me, donec desinat ira tua et statuas mihi tempus, in quo memoriam mei facias. si enim mortuus fuerit homo, uiuet consummans dies uitae ipsius. sustinebo donec iterum fiam. deinde uocabis me, ego autem te obaudiam, opera uero manuum tuarum ne despicias. numerasti autem meas adinuentiones, nec praeteribit te quicquam ex peccatis meis. signasti autem iniquitates meas in sacculo et notasti, si quid inscius praeteriui. quam suauis locus, qui nos de resurrectione confirmat et quam uidetur uoci dominicae, quae legitur in euangelio, conuenire, ubi ait: tunc incipient dicere montibus: cadite super nos, et collibus: operite nos. erit enim in consummatione saeculi ira domini. recte ergo sanctus in iudicium mauult resurgere quam in tempus diuinae iracundiae, quae terribilis etiam innocentibus est.
Having heard, then, what God had spoken in him, and having learned through the Holy Spirit that the Son of God would not only come to earth but would also descend to the underworld to raise the dead (which was indeed done then as a testimony to those present and an example to those to come), he turned to the Lord and said: “Would that you kept me in the underworld and hid me until your wrath ceases, and set a time for me in which you remember me! For if a man dies, he will live, completing the days of his life. I will wait until I come to be again. Then you will call me, and I will answer you; do not despise the works of your hands. You have numbered my devices, and nothing of my sins will escape you. You have sealed up my iniquities in a bag and marked whatever I passed over unknowing.” How sweet is this passage, which confirms us concerning the resurrection, and how it seems to agree with the Lord’s word which we read in the Gospel, where he says: “Then they will begin to say to the mountains: Fall upon us, and to the hills: Cover us.” For at the end of the age there will be the wrath of the Lord. Rightly, then, does the holy man prefer to rise to judgment rather than to a time of divine anger, which is terrible even to the innocent.
Job 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:52 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Pet 3:19 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: Job, foreseeing Christ’s descent to the dead, asks to be hidden until God’s wrath passes and to be called back to life.
- Job 14:13–17 in the form of the Greek; Luke 23:30; cf. Matt 27:52–53; 1 Pet 3:19.
Topics: Eschatology, Descent into Hades, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.26 (CSEL 32.2:227–228; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.27CSEL 32.2:228–229
simul etiam illud prophetare intellegitur dicendo: statues mihi tempus, in quo memoriam mei facias, quod in passione domini resuscitandus foret, sicut in fine libri istius demonstratur, nec tamen deplorare desinit et quo magis intellegit sibi resurrectionem esse propositam, uitam hanc fugere desiderat, uidens se in manus traditum aduersariorum, proiectum se in potestatem impiorum, cui etiam amici in inimicos conuersi sint, qui cum debuerint consolari, ruinam supra ruinam inferant. memor tamen conscientiae suae purae et mundae orationis ait: terra non cooperias in sanguine carnis meae, ut oratio eius sicut incensum dirigatur ad dominum, non in terra deuersetur. sancti enim oratio nubes penetrat. peccatoris orationem, sicut a deo Cain dictum est parricidae, aperiens os suum terra in sanguine carnis abscondit. maledictus inquit a terra, quae aperuit os suum accipere sanguinem fratris tui de manu tua, quoniam operaberis terram.
At the same time he is understood to prophesy, by saying, “You will set me a time in which you remember me,” that he would be raised at the Lord’s passion, as is shown at the end of this book. Yet he does not cease to lament, and the more he understands that resurrection is set before him, the more he desires to flee this life, seeing himself handed over into the hands of adversaries, cast into the power of the wicked, his very friends turned into enemies, who, when they ought to have consoled him, brought ruin upon ruin. Yet, mindful of his pure conscience and clean prayer, he says: “O earth, do not cover the blood of my flesh,” so that his prayer may be directed like incense to the Lord and not linger on the earth. For the prayer of a saint pierces the clouds. But the prayer of a sinner the earth, opening its mouth, hides in the blood of the flesh, as was said by God to Cain the fratricide: “Cursed are you from the earth, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand, when you till the earth.”
Job 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 42:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 16:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 141:2 (140:2 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 4:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 4:12 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Job foresees his resurrection at Christ’s passion and prays that the earth not cover his blood, so his prayer may rise to God.
- Job 14:13; the end of Job in the Greek (42:17a, “it is written that he will rise again with those whom the Lord raises”); Job 16:18 in the form of the Greek; Ps 141:2 (Vulgate 140:2); Sir 35:17 (Vulgate 35:21); Gen 4:11–12.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 35:17 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Prayer, Eschatology, Resurrection of the body
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.27 (CSEL 32.2:228–229; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.28CSEL 32.2:229
Flebiliter itaque sanctus deplorat uitae istius tempora. pereo inquit et spiritu circumferor, oro autem sepulturam et non inpetro. precor laborans. et quid faciam? dies mei transierunt in horrore, dirupti sunt articuli cordis mei. nec tamen usquam derogat iudicio dei; scit enim profundam esse altitudinem sapientiae et scientiae dei et inscrutabilia iudicia eius atque inuestigabiles uias eius.
So the holy man tearfully laments the times of this life. “I perish,” he says, “and am carried about by the wind; I pray for burial and do not obtain it. I pray in my distress. And what shall I do? My days have passed in horror; the joints of my heart are broken.” Yet nowhere does he detract from the judgment of God; for he knows that the depth of the wisdom and knowledge of God is profound, and his judgments inscrutable and his ways unsearchable.
Job 17:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 17:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:33 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job laments his life yet never questions God’s unsearchable judgments.
- Job 17:1, 11 in the form of the Greek; Rom 11:33.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word and page number in the digital text): sepul-636 turam → sepulturam.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.28 (CSEL 32.2:229; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
1.29CSEL 32.2:229–230
non calcauerunt inquit eas filii glorificantium, nec transiuit per eas leo. quis enim potuit uias eius conprehendere, quis abdite occulta penetrauit? unde inquit inuenta est sapientia aut quis locus disciplinae? nescit mortalis homo uiam eius, nec inuenta est in hominibus. abyssus dixit: non est in me, et mare dixit: non est mecum. non tibi licet scire, o homo, alta sapientiae; ideo tibi scriptum est: noli altum sapere, sed time. quid curiose cupis inuestigare quod tibi scire non expedit nec cognoscere datur? Paulus audiuit aliqua secreta sapientiae, quae prohibitus est aliis intimare, et ideo raptus est in paradisum, raptus usque ad tertium caelum, ut audiret ea quae positus in terris audire non poterat. si quae audiuit homo, non licuit ei loqui, quemadmodum quod non audiuit inquirit? imperatoris tibi huius in terris non licet scire consilia, et uis scire diuina? non licet tibi curiosius inuestigare quae in terris geruntur, et curiosius requiris quid supra caelum agatur? cur tu disputas unde nata sit sapientia? nescit homo uiam eius, nec in hominibus inuenta est perfecta sapientia. non in Moyse, non in Aaron, non in Iesu Naue fuit, non in ipso Dauid qui ait: incerta et occulta sapientiae tuae manifestasti mihi, quia ipse dixit in posterioribus: uelut iumentum factus sum apud te. supra te est scire, o homo; altitudinem sapientiae, satis est tibi ut credas. si enim non credideritis, inquit nec intellegetis. abyssum scire non potes, abyssum non potes conprehendere, quomodo altitudinem sapientiae conprehendes? abyssus dixit: non est in me, et tu potes dicere quia in te est sapientia?
“The sons of the proud,” he says, “have not trodden them, nor has the lion passed through them.” For who could grasp his ways, who has penetrated hidden secrets? “Whence,” he says, “has wisdom been found, or what is the place of understanding? Mortal man does not know its way, nor has it been found among men. The abyss said: It is not in me; and the sea said: It is not with me.” It is not permitted you, O man, to know the heights of wisdom; therefore it is written for you: “Do not be high-minded, but fear.” Why do you curiously desire to search out what it is not expedient for you to know nor given you to learn? Paul heard certain secrets of wisdom which he was forbidden to make known to others, and therefore he was caught up into paradise, caught up as far as the third heaven, to hear things he could not hear while placed on earth. If a man was not allowed to speak what he heard, how does one inquire into what he has not heard? You are not permitted to know the counsels of the emperor here on earth, and do you wish to know divine things? You are not permitted to search too curiously into what is done on earth, and do you curiously ask what is done above the heaven? Why do you argue about where wisdom was born? Man does not know its way, nor has perfect wisdom been found among men: not in Moses, not in Aaron, not in Joshua son of Nun, not in David himself, who said: “The uncertain and hidden things of your wisdom you have made manifest to me,” for he himself said later: “I became like a beast before you.” To know the height of wisdom is above you, O man; it is enough for you to believe. “For if you do not believe,” he says, “neither will you understand.” You cannot know the abyss, you cannot grasp the abyss; how will you grasp the height of wisdom? The abyss said: “It is not in me”; and can you say that wisdom is in you?
Job 28:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 28:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 28:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 28:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 51:6 (50:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 73:22 (72:23 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 7:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Wisdom’s ways are beyond human search; even Paul and David could not grasp it; we must believe rather than pry.
- Job 28:8, 12–14 in the form of the Greek; Rom 11:20; 2 Cor 12:2–4; Ps 51:6 (Vulgate 50:8); Ps 73:22 (Vulgate 72:23); Isa 7:9 in the form of the Greek.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR l for f; OCR slip): Iesu Naue luit → Iesu Naue fuit; incerta at occulta → incerta et occulta.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 1.29 (CSEL 32.2:229–230; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/1-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).