On the Complaints of Job and David 4.2–4.26
Latin text: CSEL 32.2 (Latin text: Schenkl/Petschenig, CSEL 32.2, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 4
4.2CSEL 32.2:267–268
sed tamen quamuis istiusmodi similitudines piis adstruantur exemplis sitque innocens et mitis natura ceruorum, illum ceruum ad imitationem prophetae propositum hoc loco arbitror, de quo Solomon paternae mentis adsertor in Prouerbiis dixit: ceruus amicitiae et pullus gratiarum confabuletur tibi. uerus enim dei filius in semet ipso naturam, quam animantibus ipse donauit, expressit, qui in hunc mundum tamquam ceruus aduenit et cum iis se mira simplicitate iungebat a quibus ei parabantur insidiae. fertur enim huiusmodi ceruorum esse simplicitas, ut cum se exagitari uiderint, iis sese equitibus adnectant, qui ministerio fraudis adpositi specie fugae ac simulatione societatis inductos ad retia usque deducant. ita ergo dominus tamquam ignarus periculi atque inprouidus Iudaeis dolum sibi struentibus admiscebatur et societatem sibi Iudae proditoris adsciuit, cuius simulatione funesta usque ad crucis laqueos et retia passionis accessit. unde conuersus ad eum dixit: Iuda, osculo filium hominis tradis? et hoc quidem modo uenit ad synagogae retia uolensque se induit, sed non implicatus est nec instrictus, qui omnes resoluit.
But although likenesses of this kind are supported by devout examples, and the nature of deer is innocent and gentle, I think that the deer set before the prophet for imitation in this passage is the one of whom Solomon, the defender of his father’s mind, said in the Proverbs: “Let the deer of friendship and the foal of your graces converse with you.” For the true Son of God expressed in himself the nature which he himself gave to living creatures. He came into this world like a deer and joined himself with wonderful simplicity to those by whom snares were being prepared for him. For the simplicity of such deer is said to be such that, when they see themselves hunted, they attach themselves to those horsemen who, appointed to serve the deceit, lead them on by a show of flight and a pretense of companionship right up to the nets. So, then, the Lord, as though unaware of danger and unforeseeing, mingled with the Jews who were laying a trap for him, and took into his company Judas the betrayer, by whose deadly pretense he came even to the snares of the cross and the nets of the passion. Hence, turning to him, he said: “Judas, do you betray the Son of Man with a kiss?” And in this way he came to the nets of the synagogue and willingly put them on; but he was not entangled or bound, he who set all free.
Prov 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:48 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ is the true deer, who in simplicity joined those who plotted against him and came willingly into the nets of the passion without being bound.
- Prov 5:19 in the form of the Greek; Luke 22:48. The account of how deer are hunted is ancient lore. Ambrose’s words about the Jews and “the synagogue” are translated as written.
Topics: Christology, Passion and death of Christ
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.2 (CSEL 32.2:267–268; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.3CSEL 32.2:268–269
denique eminebat super retia. et quia sui eum non susceperant, uocabat ecclesiam et ei suam gratiam conferebat, sicut ipsa sacrosancta ecclesia in Canticis protestatur dicens: adiuraui uos, filiae Hierusalem, in uirtutibus et fortitudinibus agri, si suscitaueritis et resuscitaueritis caritatem usquequo uoluerit. petit ergo in odore agri, quem olebat sanctus Iacob, id est illa fide, illa deuotione excitari sponsum suum a filiabus Hierusalem, ut festinet ad sponsam, et excitari in se eius caritatem aut etiam ipsum excitari, quia caritas sponsus est. deus enim caritas est, sicut dixit Iohannes. sed ille non passus se ab aliis excitari, qui sponte properabat, egressus de thalamo suo exultabat ut gigans ad currendam uiam. uidit eum sponsa et uocem uenientis audiuit subitoque conuersa ait: ecce hic aduenit saliens super montes, transiliens super colles; maiores enim salit, minores transilit, ne piae festinationis inpedimenta patiatur. similis inquit est consobrinus meus capreolae aut inulo ceruorum super montes Bethel. bonus ceruus, cuius mons domus est dei, in quam tanta celeritate currebat, ut sponsae uota et desideria praeueniret. denique quem de longinquo uenientem uiderat, repente sibi adesse cognouit, unde et ait: ecce hic post parietem nostrum, prospiciens per fenestras, eminens per retia. respondit consobrinus meus et dixit mihi: exurge, ueni, proxima mea, formonsa mea, columba mea, quia ecce hiems praeteriit, imber abiit; discessit sibi; flores uisi sunt in terra. hiems synagoga est, imber populus Iudaeorum, qui solem uidere non potuit, flores apostoli sunt. et addidit: messis incisionis aduenit, uox turturis audita est in terra nostra. messis illa ecclesiae fides est, uox turturis pudicitia est.
Indeed he stood out above the nets. And because his own had not received him, he called the church and conferred his grace upon her, as the most holy church herself declares in the Song of Songs, saying: “I have adjured you, daughters of Jerusalem, by the powers and the strengths of the field, if you will stir up and stir up again love until it pleases.” She asks, then, in the scent of the field, which holy Jacob smelled, that is, by that faith, that devotion, that her bridegroom be roused by the daughters of Jerusalem, so that he may hasten to his bride, and that his love be roused in her, or even that he himself be roused, because love is the bridegroom. For “God is love,” as John said. But he did not allow himself to be roused by others, he who was hastening of his own accord; coming out of his chamber, he exulted like a giant to run his course. The bride saw him and heard the voice of the one coming, and suddenly turning she said: “Behold, he comes leaping upon the mountains, bounding over the hills”; for he leaps the greater ones and bounds over the lesser, so as not to suffer hindrances to his devoted haste. “My kinsman,” she says, “is like a roe or a young stag upon the mountains of Bethel.” Good is the stag whose mountain is the house of God, to which he ran with such speed that he anticipated the prayers and desires of the bride. Indeed, the one she had seen coming from afar she suddenly knew to be present with her; hence she says: “Behold, he is behind our wall, looking through the windows, standing out above the nets. My kinsman answered and said to me: Arise, come, my near one, my beautiful one, my dove, for behold, the winter has passed, the rain has gone; it has departed by itself; the flowers have appeared in the land.” The winter is the synagogue, the rain the Jewish people, who could not see the sun; the flowers are the apostles. And he added: “The time of pruning has come; the voice of the turtledove has been heard in our land.” That harvest is the faith of the church; the voice of the turtledove is chastity.
John 1:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Song 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 27:27 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 John 4:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 19:5 (18:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Song 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Song 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Song 2:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Song 2:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Song 2:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Song 2:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ, the stag of the Song of Songs, leaps over the mountains to his bride the church; winter has passed and the apostles have blossomed.
- Song 2:7 (3:5); 2:8–12, 17 in the form of the Greek (“mountains of Bethel”); Gen 27:27; 1 John 4:8, 16; Ps 19:5 (Vulgate 18:6); John 1:11. Ambrose’s reading of winter and rain as the synagogue and the Jewish people is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split words in the digital text): susci taueri tis et resusci taueritis → suscitaueritis et resuscitaueritis.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.3 (CSEL 32.2:268–269; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.4CSEL 32.2:269–270
Nec his solis.... sed etiam cerui similitudinem suscepit Christus, quia ueniens in terras serpentem illum diabolum sine ulla sui offensione protriuit, cui calcaneum suum obtulit, sed eius uenena non sensit. unde dictum est ei: super aspidem et basiliscum ambulabis. simus ergo et nos cerui, ut super serpentes ambulare possimus. erimus cerui, si uocem Christi sequamur, quae praeparat ceruos et facit morsus serpentium non timere ac si qui forte fuerint uulnerati, aufert eorum dolorem soluendo delictum. de his ceruis dicit dominus ad Iob: custodisti partus ceruorum? numerasti autem menses eorum plenos partus, partus autem eorum soluisti uel enutristi filios eorum, ut non timeant? audi quomodo non timeant filii ceruorum talium. doceat te Esaias dicens: et puer paruulus mittet manum in cauernam aspidum, et non illi nocebunt. et ut agnoscas quod ecclesiae filios significare uidetur addidit: partus autem eorum emittes? rumpent filii eorum et multiplicabuntur in generatione. exibunt et non reuertentur retro. nemo enim mittens manum in aratrum et aspiciens retro habilis est regno dei.
Not only in these … but Christ also took on the likeness of the stag, because, coming to earth, he trampled that serpent the devil without any harm to himself; he offered him his heel but did not feel his poison. Hence it was said to him: “You will walk upon the asp and the basilisk.” Let us too, then, be stags, so that we may walk upon serpents. We shall be stags if we follow the voice of Christ, which prepares the stags and makes them not fear the bites of serpents, and if any have perhaps been wounded, takes away their pain by loosing their offence. Of these stags the Lord says to Job: “Have you watched over the birth of the hinds? Have you numbered their months full of birth, and loosed their birth pangs, or reared their young so that they do not fear?” Hear how the young of such hinds do not fear. Let Isaiah teach you, saying: “And the little child will put his hand into the den of asps, and they will not harm him.” And so that you may recognize that it seems to signify the children of the church, he added: “Will you send forth their offspring? Their young will break forth and be multiplied in generation; they will go out and will not return back.” For no one who puts his hand to the plough and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 3:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 91:13 (90:13 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 39:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 39:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 39:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 39:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 11:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 9:62 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ the stag trampled the serpent; believers, his stags, need not fear its bite and go forward without looking back.
- The digital text marks a gap after “Not only in these.” Gen 3:15; Ps 91:13 (Vulgate 90:13); Job 39:1–4 in the form of the Greek; Isa 11:8; Luke 9:62. Stags were believed to hunt and eat serpents.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.4 (CSEL 32.2:269–270; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.5CSEL 32.2:270–271
merito ergo ceruus factus est dominus, ut tales sibi ceruos uox domini praepararet, de quibus ait: in nomine meo daemonia eicient, linguis loquentur nouis, serpentes tollent et si mortiferum quid biberint, non illis nocebit. tollebant enim serpentes, cum spiritu oris sui sancti apostoli de latebris corporum eruerent nequitias spiritalis, nec uenena mortifera sentiebant. denique cum exiliens de sarmentis Paulum uipera momordisset, uidentes barbari pendentem uiperam de manu eius, putabant repente moriturum. at ille stabat intrepidus nec uulnere mouebatur nec ueneno infundebatur. unde uidentes eum non tamquam hominis condicione genitum, sed tamquam dei gratia editum supra homines esse arbitrabantur. uide ceruum uiperas de latebris eruentem spiritu diuino, qui erat in naribus eius, sicut dixit Iob. conuersus inquit Paulus in spiritu et respiciens cum dolore ad pythonem ait: praecipio tibi in nomine domini Iesu Christi continuo exire ab ea. et exiuit eadem hora. uide ceruum quando uenit ad baptismum et sacri fontis ablutus inriguo omnia persecutionis uenena reiecit. uide ceruum dominum Iesum, quando uenit ad Iohannem Baptistam et dicenti sibi Iohanni: ego a te debeo baptizari, et tu uenis ad me? respondit: sine modo. et hoc dicto in aquas salutem sitiens publicam tota auiditate descendit. sed iam satis nobis in exordio tractatus sicut in principio anni more uulgi ceruus adlusit. pergamus ad cetera.
Rightly, then, the Lord became a stag, so that the voice of the Lord might prepare such stags for himself, of whom he says: “In my name they will cast out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will take up serpents, and if they drink anything deadly, it will not harm them.” For the holy apostles took up serpents when by the breath of their mouth they drew spiritual wickedness out of the hiding places of bodies, and they did not feel the deadly poisons. Indeed, when a viper leaping from the brushwood had bitten Paul, the barbarians, seeing the viper hanging from his hand, thought he would suddenly die. But he stood undaunted; he was neither moved by the wound nor infused with the poison. Hence, seeing him not as one born by the condition of man but as one brought forth by the grace of God, they thought him above men. See the stag drawing vipers out of their hiding places by the divine Spirit that was in his nostrils, as Job said. “Paul,” it says, “turned in the Spirit and, looking back with grief at the python, said: I command you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to come out of her at once. And it came out that same hour.” See the stag when he comes to baptism and, washed by the stream of the sacred font, casts off all the poisons of persecution. See the stag, the Lord Jesus, when he came to John the Baptist, and to John, who said to him, “I ought to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”, he answered: “Let it be so now.” And with these words, thirsting for the salvation of all, he went down into the waters with all eagerness. But enough: at the beginning of our discourse, as at the beginning of the year according to popular custom, the stag has played with us. Let us go on to the rest.
Mark 16:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 16:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 28:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 28:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 27:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 16:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:15 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ the stag made his apostles stags who take up serpents, as Paul did; the stag also comes to baptism, as Christ came to John.
- Mark 16:17–18; Acts 28:3–6; Job 27:3; Acts 16:18; Matt 3:14–15. The closing allusion is to the New Year’s custom of masquerading as a stag (cervulus), which Christian preachers often condemned.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.5 (CSEL 32.2:270–271; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-5
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.6CSEL 32.2:271–272
Interpellat, ut dixi, Dauid dicens ad dominum: sicut ceruus desiderat ad fontes aquarum ita desiderat anima mea ad te, deus. sitiuit anima mea ad deum uiuum. quando ueniam et parebo ante faciem dei? aestuat sanctus nec sese capit — maior est enim animi magnificentia quam cuiuslibet corporis magnitudo — et securus menti de terris ad caelestia euolare desiderat, sicut et alibi dicit ipse: quis dabit mihi pinnas sicut columbae: et uolabo et requiescam. hic enim laquei, quibus etsi non inplicatur iustus, tamen inpeditur: hic dolores et sollicitudines, illic laetitia, ubi gratia: hic postremo corporis uincula, quae Paulus soluere gestiebat, ut omnibus exutus inpedimentis domino liber adsisteret. hoc ergo sitiebat anima Dauid, ut iam non per fidem, sed faciem ad faciem deum uideret, nec solum peregrinaretur a corpore, sed corpore solueretur; dissolui enim et cum Christo esse multo melius, quia iusto mori est lucrum. et grande quidem lucrum carere peccato, delictorum inlecebris non moueri. quis enim mundus ab sorde, quando nec unius diei uita hominis in terra caret delictorum contagione? uiuendo ergo innocentiae damna contrahimus, morte finem erroris adipiscimur. lucrum ergo morte adquiritur, uitae autem usu tamquam miseris debitoribus usurarii nominis ad reatum faenus augetur. et bene sitit anima, quae festinat ad fontem, non aquae istius, sed uitae aeternae, de quo supra dixit: quoniam apud te fons uitae et in lumine tuo uidebimus lumen. merito ergo Dauid properabat peruenire et apparere ante faciem dei, cuius uultus lumen est, quia omnes quos dominus spectat inluminat.
David, as I said, remonstrates, saying to the Lord: “As the deer longs for the springs of water, so my soul longs for you, O God. My soul has thirsted for the living God. When shall I come and appear before the face of God?” The saint is aflame and cannot contain himself (for the greatness of the mind is greater than the size of any body), and in his mind, free from care, he desires to fly from earth to heavenly things, as elsewhere he himself says: “Who will give me wings like a dove, and I will fly and be at rest?” For here are snares, by which the just man, even if he is not entangled, is nevertheless hindered; here are sorrows and anxieties, there gladness, where grace is; here, finally, are the chains of the body, which Paul was eager to loose, so that, stripped of all hindrances, he might stand free before the Lord. This, then, is what David’s soul thirsted for: to see God no longer by faith but face to face, and not only to be away from the body but to be released from the body; for “to depart and be with Christ is far better,” because to the just man “to die is gain.” And it is a great gain to be without sin, not to be moved by the enticements of offences. For who is clean from filth, when not even the life of one day of man on earth is without the contagion of offences? So by living we contract losses of innocence; by death we gain the end of error. Gain, then, is acquired by death; but by the use of life, as for wretched debtors, the interest of a usurious debt increases to their guilt. And well does the soul thirst which hastens to the spring, not of this water, but of eternal life, of which he said above: “For with you is the spring of life, and in your light we shall see light.” Rightly, then, David was hastening to arrive and appear before the face of God, whose countenance is light, because he enlightens all whom the Lord beholds.
Ps 42:1 (41:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:2 (41:3 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 55:6 (54:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:8 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 36:9 (35:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Like the thirsting deer, David longed to be freed from the body and to see God face to face, for death is gain to the just.
- Ps 42:1–2 (Vulgate 41:2–3); Ps 55:6 (Vulgate 54:7); 2 Cor 5:6–8; 1 Cor 13:12; Phil 1:21, 23; Job 14:4–5 in the form of the Greek; Ps 36:9 (Vulgate 35:10).
Topics: Eschatology, Death and burial
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.6 (CSEL 32.2:271–272; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.7CSEL 32.2:272–273
Fuerunt inquit mihi lacrimae meae panes die ac nocte, dum dicitur mihi cotidie: ubi est deus tuus? ibi bene lacrimae panęş sunt, ubi esuritur iustitia. beati enim qui esuriunt et sitiunt iustitiam, quoniam ipsi saturabuntur. sunt igitur lacrimae quae panes sunt et confirmant cor hominis. cui disputationi etiam illud Ecclesiasticum conuenit dictum: mitte panem tuum ante faciem aquae, quia ibi panis caelestis, ubi aqua gratiae, quoniam recte accipiunt substantiam uerbi et mysticae rationis alimentum quibus flumina aquae uiuae de uentre labuntur. similiter quoque ibi panis hic uiuus, ubi aqua lacrimarum et fletus est paenitentiae. sic enim scriptum est: in fletu exierunt, et in consolatione reuocabo eos.
“My tears,” he says, “have been my bread day and night, while it is said to me daily: Where is your God?” Rightly are tears bread there where one hungers for righteousness. For “blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled.” There are, then, tears that are bread and strengthen the heart of man. To this discussion that saying of Ecclesiastes too is fitting: “Cast your bread upon the face of the water,” because there is heavenly bread where there is the water of grace, since those rightly receive the substance of the Word and the nourishment of mystical reason from whose belly flow rivers of living water. Likewise also there is this living bread where there is the water of tears and the weeping of repentance. For so it is written: “In weeping they went out, and in consolation I will bring them back.”
Ps 42:3 (41:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 104:15 (103:15 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Eccl 11:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:38 (allusion, high confidence) · Jer 31:9 (38:9 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Tears of longing for righteousness are true bread, like bread cast on the waters, and repentance is consoled.
- Ps 42:3 (Vulgate 41:4); Matt 5:6; Ps 104:15 (Vulgate 103:15); Eccl 11:1; John 7:38; Jer 31:9 in the form of the Greek (LXX 38:9).
Topics: Repentance
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.7 (CSEL 32.2:272–273; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.8CSEL 32.2:273
beati ergo quorum lacrimae panes, qui ridere meruerunt, quia beati qui fletis. horum memor inquit effudi super me animam meam. sanctus colligit ab his quae foris sunt et supra se effundit animam suam, ut anima supra corpus effusa infirmitatem carnis abscondat, tegat corporis adpetentiam et uirtus ubique animae mentisque praetendat. unde et in posterioribus dicit: effundam in conspectu eius orationem meam. ubi effunditur oratio, ibi tecta peccata sunt. quorum autem memorem se dicit? eorum utique quae desiderabat, ut ueniret et appareret in conspectu dei, ut eius aulam illam uideret aeternam, in qua spatiabatur animo et praesumpto delectabatur ingressu.
Blessed, then, are those whose tears are bread, who have deserved to laugh, because “blessed are you who weep.” “Remembering these things,” he says, “I poured out my soul upon me.” The saint gathers himself from the things that are outside and pours out his soul upon himself, so that the soul poured out over the body may hide the weakness of the flesh, cover the appetite of the body, and set forth everywhere the virtue of the soul and mind. Hence later he says too: “I will pour out my prayer in his sight.” Where prayer is poured out, there sins are covered. But of what things does he say he is mindful? Of those surely that he desired, that he might come and appear in the sight of God, that he might see that eternal court of his, in which he walked about in spirit and delighted in an entry taken for granted.
Luke 6:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:4 (41:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 142:2 (141:3 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 32:1 (31:1 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: David pours out his soul in longing for the heavenly court, and poured-out prayer covers sins.
- Luke 6:21; Ps 42:4 (Vulgate 41:5); Ps 142:2 (Vulgate 141:3); Ps 32:1.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark in the digital text): quia ] beati → quia beati.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.8 (CSEL 32.2:273; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-8
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.9CSEL 32.2:273–274
quoniam ingrediar inquit in locum tabernaculi admirabilis usque ad domum dei in uoce exultationis et confessionis sonitus epulantis. non inmerito flebat, quoniam uersaretur in terris, cui caelestia tabernacula deberentur et quem aulae potentis expectaret introitus. denique illam solam omnibus regni sui opibus praeferebat, sicut ipse testificatus est alibi dicens: unam petiui a domino, hanc requiram, ut inhabitem in domo domini omnes dies uitae meae et ut uideam delectationem domini. delectatio domini in ecclesia est. ecclesia est imago caelestium; etenim postquam umbra praeteriit, imago successit. umbra synagoga est: in umbra lex, in euangelio ueritas. ideo in euangelii lumine ueritatis imago resplendet. flebat igitur propheta quia differebantur plena gratia bona et referta laetitiae.
“For I will go into the place of the wonderful tabernacle, even to the house of God, with the voice of exultation and praise, the sound of one feasting.” Not without reason did he weep, since he was dwelling on earth, to whom heavenly tabernacles were owed and for whom the entrance of a mighty court was waiting. Indeed, he preferred that court alone to all the riches of his kingdom, as he himself testified elsewhere, saying: “One thing I have asked of the Lord, this I will seek: that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, and that I may see the delight of the Lord.” The delight of the Lord is in the church. The church is the image of heavenly things; for after the shadow passed, the image followed. The shadow is the synagogue: in the shadow is the law, in the Gospel the truth. Therefore in the light of the Gospel the image of the truth shines. So the prophet wept because good things full of grace and filled with gladness were being deferred.
Ps 42:4 (41:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 27:4 (26:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 10:1 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: David wept with longing for God’s heavenly house; the church is the image of heavenly things, as the synagogue was their shadow.
- Ps 42:4 in the form of the Greek (Vulgate 41:5); Ps 27:4 (Vulgate 26:4); Heb 10:1.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.9 (CSEL 32.2:273–274; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.10CSEL 32.2:274
Denique et in posterioribus dicit: heu me quod incolatus meus prolongatus est! et ideo interpellabat dominum, quia ad meliora properabat. in ipsis tamen adflictationibus saeculi magna erat consolatio praesentium, spes futurorum. quis enim non erigeret animum, qui posset sperare in tabernaculo caelesti beata illa sibi consortia reseruari? sed quia infirmae condicioni plerumque futura taedio sunt, praesentia uexationi, ideo et sancti prophetae insurgentibus corporis fluctibus anima turbabatur.
Indeed later he says too: “Woe is me, that my sojourning is prolonged!” And therefore he remonstrated with the Lord, because he was hastening to better things. Yet in these very afflictions of the world there was great consolation for the present and hope for the future. For who would not lift up his mind, who could hope that those blessed companionships were reserved for him in the heavenly tabernacle? But because to our weak condition future things are often a weariness and present things a vexation, therefore the soul of the holy prophet too was troubled when the waves of the body rose up.
Ps 120:5 (119:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: David lamented his long exile on earth, though hope of heaven consoled him.
- Ps 120:5 (Vulgate 119:5).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (words run together in the digital text): heu me quodincolatus → heu me quod incolatus.
Topics: Hope
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.10 (CSEL 32.2:274; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.11CSEL 32.2:274–275
nolo enim mireris si propheta animam suam dicit esse exagitatam, cum dixerit ipse dominus Iesus: nunc anima mea turbata est. qui enim suscepit nostras infirmitates nostrum quoque suscepit affectum, in quo et tristis erat usque ad mortem, non propter mortem; mors enim uoluntaria maestitiam habere non potuerat, in qua futura erat uniuersorum laetitia, uniuersorum refectio. de qua et alibi dixit: et surrexi et uidi, et somnus dulcis mihi factus est. bonus somnus qui fecit non esurire esurientes. non sitire sitientes, quibus sacramentorum dulcedinem praeparauit. quomodo ergo anima eius timore turbata est, qui fecit aliorum animas non timere? tristis ergo usque ad mortem, donec consummaretur gratia. quod probatur ipsius testimonio dicentis de morte sua: baptisma habeo baptizari. et quomodo angor, usque dum perficiatur?
I do not want you to wonder that the prophet says his soul was troubled, since the Lord Jesus himself said: “Now my soul is troubled.” For he who took up our infirmities took up our feeling too, in which he was sorrowful even unto death, not because of death; for a voluntary death could not have had sadness, in which there was to be the gladness of all, the refreshment of all. Of it he said elsewhere too: “And I arose and saw, and my sleep became sweet to me.” Good is the sleep that made the hungry not hunger, the thirsty not thirst, for whom he prepared the sweetness of the sacraments. How then was his soul troubled by fear, he who made the souls of others not fear? He was sorrowful even unto death, then, until grace was accomplished. This is proved by his own testimony, saying of his death: “I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how I am constrained until it is accomplished!”
John 12:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:38 (allusion, high confidence) · Jer 31:26 (38:26 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:50 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:4 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ too was troubled in soul, not from fear of a death he chose freely, but in longing for the grace it would accomplish.
- John 12:27; Matt 26:38; Jer 31:26 (LXX 38:26), read of Christ’s death; Luke 12:50.
Topics: Christology, Passion and death of Christ
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.11 (CSEL 32.2:274–275; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.12CSEL 32.2:275
turbatus igitur Dauid lubricis saeculi huius anfractibus dicit: quare tristis es, anima, quare conturbas me? spera in deum, quoniam confitebor illi: salutare uultus mei et deus meus. ergo quando anxii et solliciti sumus, spes nos futurorum expectatione confirmet. uide singula. spera, quoniam confitebor, inquit, non confiteor, sed confitebor; hoc est: tunc melius confitebor, quando reuelata facie gloriam dei speculatus in eandem imaginem reformabor.
So David, troubled by the slippery windings of this world, says: “Why are you sad, my soul, and why do you trouble me? Hope in God, for I will praise him, the salvation of my countenance and my God.” So when we are anxious and troubled, let hope strengthen us by the expectation of things to come. Look at each point. “Hope, for I will praise,” he says; not “I praise,” but “I will praise”; that is: I will praise better then, when with unveiled face, beholding the glory of God, I shall be refashioned into the same image.
Ps 42:5 (41:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 3:18 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In trouble, hope in God strengthens us, looking to the praise we shall give when we see his glory.
- Ps 42:5 (Vulgate 41:6); 2 Cor 3:18.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray bracket in the digital text): sed confitebor); → sed confitebor;.
Topics: Hope
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.12 (CSEL 32.2:275; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.13CSEL 32.2:275
subito cum se consolaretur, in se reuersus ait: ad me ipsum anima mea turbata est, id est: qui alios confirmare debeo ipse conturbor, et quia ex me non habeo firmamentum, de auctore sumamus.
Suddenly, while consoling himself, he turned back to himself and said: “My soul is troubled within me”; that is: I who ought to strengthen others am myself troubled; and because I have no firmness from myself, let us take it from the Author.
Ps 42:6 (41:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: David admits his own trouble and seeks strength from God.
- Ps 42:6 (Vulgate 41:7).
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.13 (CSEL 32.2:275; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.14CSEL 32.2:275–276
Propterea inquit memor ero tui, domine, de terra Iordanis et Hermonin. memor est de terra Iordanis, in quo gratia memoriam deuotionis accumulat. in Iordanen Neman Syrus ille descendit et mundus a lepra factus est. in Iordane baptizatus est Christus, quando formam lauacri salutaris instituit. Iordanis nomen descensionem significat, quam descendit dominus Iesus, qui a contagio delictorum uicinos Iordanis fluminis emundauit. hic fluuius exit de Aegypto et diuidit terram repromissionis. ergo qui turbatur, si boni consulit, ex Aegypto exit et sequitur uiam lucis; Hermonin enim uiam lucernae interpretati sunt. exi ergo prius ex Aegypto, si uis lumen Christi uidere. exiuit Chananaea a finibus gentium et Christum inuenit, cui dicebat: miserere mei, fili Dauid! exiuit ex Aegypto Moyses et propheta factus est et remissus ad populum, ut de terra adflictionis eorum animas liberaret. lucerna autem Christi in corpore. haec tibi lucerna uiam monstrat. unde et sanctus ait: lucerna pedibus meis uerbum tuum, lucerna, quod inluminauerit animas uniuersorum et in tenebris uiam monstrauerit. euangelium uia lucernae est; in umbra lucet, id est in saeculo. unde et alibi habes: niue dealbabuntur in Selmon, id est in obumbratione.
“Therefore,” he says, “I will remember you, O Lord, from the land of the Jordan and of Hermon.” He is mindful from the land of the Jordan, in which grace heaps up the memory of devotion. Into the Jordan Naaman the Syrian went down and was made clean of leprosy. In the Jordan Christ was baptized, when he instituted the form of the saving washing. The name Jordan signifies “descent,” the descent which the Lord Jesus made, who cleansed the neighbors of the river Jordan from the contagion of offences. This river comes out of Egypt and divides the land of promise. So one who is troubled, if he takes good counsel, comes out of Egypt and follows the way of light; for they have interpreted Hermon as “the way of the lamp.” Come out first, then, from Egypt, if you wish to see the light of Christ. The Canaanite woman came out from the borders of the Gentiles and found Christ, to whom she said: “Have mercy on me, Son of David!” Moses came out of Egypt and was made a prophet and sent back to the people, to free their souls from the land of affliction. And the lamp of Christ is in the body. This lamp shows you the way. Hence the saint too says: “Your word is a lamp to my feet,” a lamp because it has enlightened the souls of all and shown the way in darkness. The Gospel is the way of the lamp; it shines in the shadow, that is, in the world. Hence elsewhere too you have: “They will be made white as snow in Zalmon,” that is, in the overshadowing.
Ps 42:6 (41:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Kgs 5:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 3:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 3:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 15:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 3:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 119:105 (118:105 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 68:14 (67:15 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The Jordan (“descent”) recalls Naaman’s cleansing and Christ’s baptism, and Hermon (“way of the lamp”) the Gospel’s light; one must first come out of Egypt.
- Ps 42:6 (Vulgate 41:7); 2 Kgs 5:14; Matt 3:13–16; Matt 15:22; Exod 3:10; Ps 119:105 (Vulgate 118:105); Ps 68:14 (Vulgate 67:15). The interpretations of the names follow the onomastic tradition (cf. Philo). “The lamp of Christ is in the body” is obscure and translated literally.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR m for in; stray mark in the digital text; words run together in the digital text): : Propterea inquit → Propterea inquit; misereremei → miserere mei; dealbabuntur m Selmon → dealbabuntur in Selmon.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.14 (CSEL 32.2:275–276; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.15CSEL 32.2:276–278
Iordanis quoque Christus, qui diuidit terram. quomodo diuidat audi: et tuam ipsius animam pertransibit gladius ad reuelandas multorum cordium cogitationes, eo quod sit nostrarum diuisor animarum, qui in intima cordis secreta descendat et cogitationes mentium deprehendat. hic gladius uerbum est dei uiuum. denique ad Hebraeos sic legis: uiuum enim uerbum dei et ualidum et acutius omni gladio acutissimo penetrat usque ad diuisionem animae et spiritus artuumque et medullarum. hic est fons Siloa, qui dicitur missus, quoniam Christus a patre dixit esse se missum. est et illa diuisio, quae colligitur ex eo quod ripam utramque Iordanis tribus incoluerint Iudaeorum, quoniam filius hominis, qui posterioribus temporibus descendit e caelo, uerus ille Iordanis, uerus ille diuisor terrestrium atque caelestium diuiduam possessionem patribus dedit, unam quae possideretur in terris, alteram quae futurae uitae meritis seruaretur. quorum utrumque soli conuenit Christo, uel caelestia diuidere uel occulta deprehendere; interiora enim diuidit qui occulta deprendit, quod est utique diuinitatis insigne. denique sic habes scriptum quia deus dixit: laetabor et diuidam Sicima. haec est illa magnifica portio, quam Iacob filio suo Ioseph praestantiorem omnibus deputauit. unde ait: ego autem do tibi Sicima magnificam super fratres tuos, quam accepi de manibus Amorraeorum in gladio meo et sagitta. quod diuisio soli domino deberetur, quae uerbo, hoc est spiritali illo ueri Solomonis gladio conprehenditur. quid est soli? patri sine Christo aut Christo sine patre? minime. cum solum dico patrem, filium non separo, quia in sinu et secreto patris filius est. cum solum filium dico, et patrem iungo, sicut iunxit et filius dicens: ecce uenit hora, ut me solum relinquatis; sed non sum solus, quoniam pater mecum est. sic ergo et pater beatus et solus potens dicitur, ut ab eo filius non sequestretur, qui in patre semper est. denique praeclare Iohannes: in principio erat uerbum, sed sine patre non erat. et deus pater erat, sed non erat sine uerbo, quia uerbum erat apud deum.
Christ is also the Jordan that divides the land. Hear how he divides: “And a sword will pierce through your own soul, to reveal the thoughts of many hearts,” because he is the divider of our souls, who goes down into the inmost secrets of the heart and detects the thoughts of minds. This sword is the living Word of God. Indeed in Hebrews you read thus: “For the word of God is living and strong and sharper than any sharpest sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow.” This is the spring of Siloam, which means “sent,” since Christ said that he was sent by the Father. There is also that division which is gathered from the fact that tribes of the Jews lived on both banks of the Jordan; since the Son of Man, who came down from heaven in later times, that true Jordan, that true divider of earthly and heavenly things, gave the fathers a divided possession: one to be possessed on earth, the other to be kept for the merits of the future life. Both of these belong to Christ alone: whether to divide heavenly things or to detect hidden things; for he who detects hidden things divides inward things, which is surely the mark of divinity. Indeed you have it written that God said: “I will rejoice and divide Shechem.” This is that magnificent portion which Jacob assigned to his son Joseph as more excellent than all. Hence he says: “But I give you Shechem, a magnificent portion above your brothers, which I took from the hands of the Amorites with my sword and bow.” That division was owed to the Lord alone, which is comprehended by the Word, that is, by that spiritual sword of the true Solomon. What does “alone” mean? The Father without Christ, or Christ without the Father? By no means. When I say the Father alone, I do not separate the Son, because the Son is in the bosom and secret of the Father. When I say the Son alone, I join the Father too, as the Son too joined him, saying: “Behold, the hour comes when you will leave me alone; but I am not alone, because the Father is with me.” So the Father too is called “blessed and only mighty” in such a way that the Son, who is always in the Father, is not separated from him. Indeed John says splendidly: “In the beginning was the Word”; but he was not without the Father. And God the Father was, but he was not without the Word, because “the Word was with God.”
Luke 2:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 4:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 9:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 8:42 (allusion, medium confidence) · Num 32:33 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 60:6 (59:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 48:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:32 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 6:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ is the true Jordan who divides: as the sword of the Word he searches hearts and apportions earthly and heavenly inheritance, yet is never alone without the Father.
- Luke 2:35; Heb 4:12; John 9:7; Num 32; Josh 22; Ps 60:6 (Vulgate 59:8); Gen 48:22 in the form of the Greek; John 1:18; John 16:32; 1 Tim 6:15; John 1:1.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): diuidnam → diuiduam.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.15 (CSEL 32.2:276–278; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.16CSEL 32.2:278
Haec Sicima ecclesia est; ipsam enim elegit Solomon, cuius latentem distinxit affectum. haec Sicima est Maria, cuius animam gladius dei transit et diuidit. haec Sicima est ascendens, sicut interpretatio habet. quae sit ascendens, audi dicentem de ecclesia: quae est, quae ascendit dealbata innitens super fratrem suum? haec est actuosa, quae graece ἐναργής dicitur, quod fide operibusque resplendeat. cuius filiis dicitur: opera uestra luceant coram patre meo, qui in caelis est.
This Shechem is the church; for Solomon chose her, whose hidden affection he distinguished. This Shechem is Mary, whose soul the sword of God pierces and divides. This Shechem is “ascending,” as the interpretation has it. Who the ascending one is, hear him saying of the church: “Who is she that goes up made white, leaning on her brother?” This is the active one, which in Greek is called ἐναργής, because she shines by faith and works. To her children it is said: “Let your works shine before my Father who is in heaven.”
Luke 2:35 (allusion, high confidence) · Song 8:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:16 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Shechem, “ascending,” signifies the church and Mary, the bride who goes up shining with faith and works.
- Luke 2:35; Song 8:5 in the form of the Greek; Matt 5:16 (freely). The meaning given for Shechem follows Ambrose’s name-interpretation source.
Topics: The church
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.16 (CSEL 32.2:278; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.17CSEL 32.2:278–279
memor ergo est dei Dauid de terra Iordanis et Hermonin a monte modico. quis est iste mons modicus? consideremus ne forte diuinitas Christi mons magnus. denique caelum et terram compleo dicit dominus. si ergo diuinitas Christi mons magnus est, utique incarnatio eius mons exiguus est. utrumque ergo Christus, et magnus mons et minor: magnus uere, quia magnus dominus et magna uirtus eius, minor, quia scriptum est: minorasti eum paulo minus ab angelis. unde Esaias dicit: uidimus eum, et non habebat speciem neque decorem. idem tamen et ex magno minor factus et ex minore magnus: ex magno minor, quia cum in forma dei esset, semet ipsum exinaniuit et formam serui accepit, et ex minore magnus, quia dicit Daniel: et lapis, qui elisit imaginem, factus est mons magnus et impleuit omnem terram. lapis hic si requiris qui sit, agnosce: lapidem quem reprobauerunt aedificantes, hic factus est in caput anguli. idem tamen et cum exiguus uideretur, magnus erat. cui rei adstipulatur Esaias dicens: puer natus est nobis, filius datus est nobis, cuius initium super umeros eius, et uocatur magni consilii angelus. omnia propter te Christus, lapis propter te, ut tu aedificeris, mons propter te, ut tu ascendas. ascende ergo supra montem, qui caelestia petis. ideo inclinauit caelum, ut tu esses uicinior, ideo adsurrexit in uerticem montis, ut te eleuaret.
David, then, is mindful of God from the land of the Jordan and Hermon, “from the little mountain.” Who is this little mountain? Let us consider whether perhaps the divinity of Christ is the great mountain. Indeed, “I fill heaven and earth,” says the Lord. If, then, the divinity of Christ is a great mountain, surely his incarnation is a small mountain. Christ, then, is both, the great mountain and the lesser: great indeed, because “great is the Lord and great his power”; lesser, because it is written: “You made him a little less than the angels.” Hence Isaiah says: “We saw him, and he had no form or beauty.” Yet the same became both lesser from great and great from lesser: lesser from great, because, “though he was in the form of God, he emptied himself and took the form of a servant”; and great from lesser, because Daniel says: “And the stone which struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.” If you ask what this stone is, recognize it: “The stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner.” Yet the same, even when he seemed small, was great. Isaiah agrees with this, saying: “A child is born to us, a son is given to us, whose beginning is upon his shoulders, and he is called the angel of great counsel.” All for your sake is Christ: a stone for your sake, that you may be built up; a mountain for your sake, that you may ascend. Ascend, then, upon the mountain, you who seek heavenly things. For this he bowed the heaven, that you might be nearer; for this he rose to the summit of the mountain, that he might lift you up.
Ps 42:6 (41:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 23:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 147:5 (146:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 8:5 (8:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 2:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 118:22 (117:22 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 9:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 18:9 (17:10 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ is both the great mountain of divinity and the little mountain of the incarnation, the stone become a mountain, so that we may ascend.
- Ps 42:6 (Vulgate 41:7); Jer 23:24; Ps 147:5 (Vulgate 146:5); Ps 8:5 (Vulgate 8:6); Isa 53:2; Phil 2:6–7; Dan 2:35; Ps 118:22 (Vulgate 117:22); Isa 9:6 in the form of the Greek; Ps 18:9 (Vulgate 17:10).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray bracket in the digital text): ut te) eleuaret → ut te eleuaret.
Topics: Christology, Incarnation
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.17 (CSEL 32.2:278–279; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.18CSEL 32.2:279–280
non inmerito ergo abyssus abyssum inuocabat, ut iste mons fieret exiguus, de quo ait propheta: abyssus abyssum inuocat in uoce cataractarum tuarum. non praeualebat uetus testamentum ad istius mundi redemptionem; inuocabat et quasi ad auxilium arcessebat nouum testamentum. clamabat lex adnuntians euangelium. erat enim semiplena et ideo erat necessarium, ut ueniret qui legem inpleret. finis enim legis Christus ad iustitiam omni credenti, qui uenit legem implere, non soluere. quomodo abyssus lex audi dicentem: iudicia tua sicut abyssus multa. simul hinc intellege utrumque unius esse sapientiae testamentum, quod quasi suum uenit implere. cataractas autem intellegimus profunda uerborum et uim caelestis eloquii, quae fluxere nobis sicut imber e caelo. ergo remedium taediorum omnium Christus et scriptura diuina atque in temptationibus unum perfugium.
Not without reason, then, did deep call to deep, so that this mountain might become small, of which the prophet says: “Deep calls to deep at the voice of your cataracts.” The Old Testament did not prevail for the redemption of this world; it called upon the New Testament and summoned it as if to its aid. The law cried out, announcing the Gospel. For it was half-full, and therefore it was necessary that he should come who would fulfill the law. For “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes,” he who came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it. Hear how the law is a deep: “Your judgments are like the great deep.” At the same time understand from this that both are the testament of one wisdom, which he came to fulfill as his own. By the cataracts we understand the depths of the words and the force of the heavenly speech, which have flowed to us like rain from heaven. So Christ and divine Scripture are the remedy of all weariness and the one refuge in temptations.
Ps 42:7 (41:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 36:6 (35:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The deep of the Old Testament called to the deep of the New, which Christ fulfilled; Christ and Scripture are the refuge in temptation.
- Ps 42:7 (Vulgate 41:8); Rom 10:4; Matt 5:17; Ps 36:6 (Vulgate 35:7).
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.18 (CSEL 32.2:279–280; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.19CSEL 32.2:280
Denique ubi aduertit Dauid quod eleuationes fluctuum saecularium super se uenirent, quas necesse est plurimas subeamus in istius salo uitae, memor domini miserationum. quas innumeris promisit oraculis, ad precem conuersus interpellat deum sciens quod misericordia eius in luce mandatur, id est in lege, quia lux praecepta tua, in temptationibus autem quasi in noctis tenebris manifestatur. unde tamquam uiator, qui repatriare desideret et peruenire quo tendit, confragoso tamen uitae huius itinere fatigatus ducem arcessit et adleuamentum obsecrat.
Indeed, when David noticed that the swellings of the world’s waves were coming over him (and we must undergo very many of them on the sea of this life), mindful of the Lord’s mercies, which he promised in countless oracles, he turned to prayer and remonstrated with God, knowing that his mercy is commanded in the light, that is, in the law, because “your precepts are light,” but in temptations it is shown as in the darkness of night. Hence, like a traveller who desires to return home and reach the place he is making for, but is wearied by the rough road of this life, he summons a guide and begs for relief.
Ps 42:7 (41:8 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 42:8 (41:9 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 26:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Overwhelmed by the world’s waves, David turned to prayer, knowing God’s mercy is shown both in the law and in the night of temptation.
- Ps 42:7–8 (Vulgate 41:8–9); Isa 26:9 in the form of the Greek.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray point in the digital text): super se. uenirent → super se uenirent.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.19 (CSEL 32.2:280; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.20CSEL 32.2:280–282
apud me inquit oratio deo uitae meae; dicam deo: susceptor meus es. bene nota iam sibi quaerit auxilia et promissi auctorem conuenit atque usitati muneris praebitorem, ut in subueniendo, si meritum hominis offendit, diuinum non offendat exemplum. dicit aliqui: (quando suscepit eum deus)? ut hoc adstruamus, ueni mecum ad scripturae sacrae exordium, uide quomodo dominus manibus suis de luto hominem figurauerit, unde et hic ipse in posterioribus dicit: manus tuae fecerunt me et plasmauerunt me. quasi figulus quidam deus fabricam carnis est operatus humanae. et ad Hieremiam dicitur: descende in domum figuli, et illic audies uerba mea. figulo utique saepe contingit, ut dum uas fingitur, cadat de manibus eius et iterum colligat lutum, ut uas reformet. denique et Hieremias dicit: descendi et uidi quo modo cecidit uas, quod ipse faciebat in manibus suis. et iterum inquit: fecit uas aliud quo modo placuit illi. recte ergo susceptor dicitur, quia manibus suis nos ipse suscepit, ipse formauit. humani figuli uasa sunt illa, alia in honorem, alia in contumeliam. omnes sumus fictilia uasa: etsi rex sit aliqui, uas fictile est: etsi apostolus, uas est. unde et Paulus: habemus, inquit thensaurum istum in uasis fictilibus et propheta de rege dicit: depretiatus est Iechonias sicut uas, cuius opera non est necessaria. et addidit: terra, audi uerbum domini, scribe uirum istum abdicatum. quasi patrio iure deus noster filios solet abdicare degeneres; ideo et terra eos scribit qui filii terrae sunt. unde cum Iudaei accusarent adulteram, dominus Iesus digito scribebat in terra. iusti autem non in terra scribuntur, ut legimus. quibus dicitur: gaudete, quia nomina uestra scripta sunt in caelo.
“With me,” he says, “is prayer to the God of my life; I will say to God: You are my upholder.” Rightly he seeks help already known to him and appeals to the author of the promise and the provider of a customary gift, so that in coming to help, if the merit of the man gives offence, the divine precedent may not. Someone says: “When did God uphold him?” To establish this, come with me to the beginning of sacred Scripture; see how the Lord shaped man from clay with his own hands. Hence this same man says later: “Your hands made me and formed me.” Like a potter, God wrought the fabric of human flesh. And to Jeremiah it is said: “Go down to the potter’s house, and there you will hear my words.” It often happens to a potter that, while a vessel is being shaped, it falls from his hands and he gathers the clay again to remake the vessel. Indeed Jeremiah too says: “I went down and saw how the vessel which he was making fell in his hands.” And again he says: “He made another vessel as it pleased him.” Rightly, then, he is called upholder, because he himself took us up in his hands, he himself formed us. Those are the vessels of a human potter, some for honor, some for dishonor. We are all earthen vessels: even if one is a king, he is an earthen vessel; even if an apostle, he is a vessel. Hence Paul too says: “We have this treasure in earthen vessels”; and the prophet says of a king: “Jeconiah has been despised like a vessel for which there is no use.” And he added: “Earth, hear the word of the Lord: write this man down as disowned.” As by a father’s right, our God is wont to disown degenerate sons; therefore the earth too writes down those who are sons of the earth. Hence, when the Jews were accusing the adulteress, the Lord Jesus wrote with his finger on the earth. But the just are not written in the earth, as we read; to them it is said: “Rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.”
Ps 42:8 (41:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:9 (41:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 119:73 (118:73 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 18:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 18:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 18:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:20 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 22:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 22:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 22:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 10:20 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: God is our “upholder” because he formed us like a potter; we are earthen vessels, and the wicked are written in the earth, the just in heaven.
- Ps 42:8–9 (Vulgate 41:9–10); Gen 2:7; Ps 119:73 (Vulgate 118:73); Jer 18:2–4; 2 Tim 2:20; 2 Cor 4:7; Jer 22:28–30 in the form of the Greek; John 8:3–8; Luke 10:20. Suscipere means both “to take up” and “to uphold.”
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.20 (CSEL 32.2:280–282; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.21CSEL 32.2:282–283
suscepit ergo nos dominus, quando nos finxit: suscipit et quando iubet nasci. unde ait iustus: suscepisti me ex utero matris meae. cuius matris? priusquam te formarem in utero, noui te. quos format et suscipit; exeuntes quoque suscipit: et priusquam exires de uulua matris, sanctificaui te. susceptor est qui susceperit manibus, ut generis operator humani susceptor dicitur, et qui uisitatione susceperit, ut protegat. unde alibi ipse dicit propheta: qui habitat in adiutorio altissimi, dicet domino: susceptor meus es tu et refugium meum. prima susceptio est operationis, secunda defensionis. denique audi Moysen dicentem: extendens alas suas adsumpsit eos et suscepit eos super scapulas suas. sicut aquila suscepit, quae fetus suos examinare consueuit, ut teneat atque enutriat quibus ueri indolem partus et incorruptae gratiam naturae adstipulari aduerterit aut repellat in quibus degeneris originis infirmitatem in tenera adhuc aetate deprehenderit.
So the Lord upheld us when he fashioned us; he upholds us also when he commands us to be born. Hence the just man says: “You upheld me from my mother’s womb.” Of what mother? “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.” Those whom he forms he also upholds; he upholds them also as they come forth: “and before you came out of your mother’s womb, I sanctified you.” He is an upholder who has taken up with his hands, as the maker of the human race is called upholder, and who has taken up by his visitation, so as to protect. Hence the prophet himself says elsewhere: “He who dwells in the help of the Most High will say to the Lord: You are my upholder and my refuge.” The first upholding is of working, the second of defence. Indeed, hear Moses saying: “Spreading out his wings, he took them and bore them upon his shoulders,” as the eagle takes them up, which is wont to test its young, so as to keep and rear those in whom it has noticed the character of a true birth and the grace of an uncorrupted nature confirmed, or to cast out those in whom it has detected, at a still tender age, the weakness of a degenerate origin.
Ps 71:6 (70:6 Vulg.) (quotation, medium confidence) · Jer 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 91:1 (90:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 91:2 (90:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 32:11 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: God upholds us first by creating us and then by protecting us, like the eagle bearing its young.
- Ps 22:10 (Vulgate 21:11; cf. Ps 71:6); Jer 1:5; Ps 91:1–2 (Vulgate 90:1–2); Deut 32:11. The eagle’s testing of its young was ancient lore.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.21 (CSEL 32.2:282–283; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.22CSEL 32.2:283–284
Quare me oblitus es et quare me repulisti? deus non obliuiscitur — inpossibile est enim ut obliuiscatur, cui omnia quae sunt facta et futura praesentia sunt —, sed nostra peccata meritum ei obliuionis infundunt, ut obliteret eos quos indignos sua uisitatione cognouerit; eos enim cognoscit dominus qui sunt ipsius. tamen ubi aliqui iniquitatem operantur, his dicit: non noui uos. quis est ergo qui possit deo dicere: quare me oblitus es? sed tamen commune hoc sanctis nobisque infirmibus est. sanctus dicit quasi meriti sui conscius, et tamen quo sanctior, hoc humilior. quodsi uix sanctus dicit, quid ego dicam peccator, nisi ad illud referam: quare operis tui oblitus es, quare uisitationis tuae oblitus es, postremo quare infirmitatis meae oblitus es? quid est enim homo nisi quia uisitas eum? non ergo obliuiscaris infirmum. memento, domine, quia infirmum me fecisti, memento quia puluerem me finxisti. quomodo stare potero, nisi solidaturus hoc lutum semper intendas, ut de uultu tuo soliditas mea prodeat? cum auerteris faciem, turbabuntur omnia: si intendas, uae mihi. non habes quod in me aspicias nisi contagia delictorum; nec deseri utile nec uideri est, quia dum uidemur offendimus. possumus tamen aestimare quia non repellit quos uidet, quia emundat quos aspicit. ignis ante eum ardet, qui crimen exurat.
“Why have you forgotten me, and why have you cast me off?” God does not forget (for it is impossible that he should forget, to whom all things made and to come are present), but our sins infuse in him a reason for forgetting, so that he blots out those whom he has known to be unworthy of his visitation; for “the Lord knows those who are his.” Yet to those who work iniquity he says: “I do not know you.” Who, then, can say to God: “Why have you forgotten me?” Yet this is common to the saints and to us weak ones. The saint says it as one conscious of his merit, and yet the holier he is, the humbler. But if the saint says it with difficulty, what shall I, a sinner, say, unless I refer it to this: why have you forgotten your work, why have you forgotten your visitation, finally why have you forgotten my weakness? For “what is man but that you visit him?” Do not, then, forget the weak. Remember, O Lord, that you made me weak; remember that you fashioned me of dust. How shall I be able to stand unless you always attend to strengthening this clay, so that my firmness may come forth from your face? When you turn away your face, all things will be troubled; if you look on me, woe is me. You have nothing to look at in me but the contagion of offences; it is not useful either to be forsaken or to be seen, because while we are seen we give offence. We can, however, reckon that he does not cast off those he sees, because he cleanses those he looks upon. A fire burns before him, to burn up crime.
Ps 42:9 (41:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 8:4 (8:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 103:14 (102:14 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 104:29 (103:29 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 50:3 (49:3 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: God does not truly forget, but our sins make us unworthy of his regard; we ask him to remember our weakness and cleanse us by his gaze.
- Ps 42:9 (Vulgate 41:10); 2 Tim 2:19; Matt 7:23; Ps 8:4 (Vulgate 8:5); Ps 103:14 (Vulgate 102:14); Ps 104:29 (Vulgate 103:29); Ps 50:3 (Vulgate 49:3).
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.22 (CSEL 32.2:283–284; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.23CSEL 32.2:284
bonum est ergo nobis, ut non repellamur. ideo queritur Dauid, quia repulsum se credidit, qui fuerat ante susceptus. denique in posterioribus dixit: in te confirmatus sum ex utero. sed et supra scriptum habemus: in te proiectus sum ex utero de uentre matris meae deus meus es tu. bonum est et proici, sed in deum. denique ex persona Christi hoc in XXI psalmo dicitur, qui uere in patrem de utero proiectus est uirginis; non enim terrena eum excepere morientem. unde in cruce positus, cum emitteret spiritum, ad patrem dixit: in manus tuas commendo spiritum meum.
It is good for us, then, not to be cast off. Therefore David complains, because he believed he had been cast off, who before had been upheld. Indeed later he said: “In you I have been strengthened from the womb.” But above too we have written: “Upon you I was cast from the womb; from my mother’s belly you are my God.” It is good even to be cast, but upon God. Indeed this is said in the twenty-first psalm in the person of Christ, who was truly cast from the womb of the Virgin upon the Father; for earthly things did not receive him when he died. Hence, placed on the cross, as he gave up his spirit, he said to the Father: “Into your hands I commend my spirit.”
Ps 71:6 (70:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:10 (21:11 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:46 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: To be “cast” upon God from the womb is good, as Christ, in Psalm 22, was cast upon the Father and committed his spirit to him.
- Ps 71:6 (Vulgate 70:6); Ps 22:10 (Vulgate 21:11; Ambrose’s “twenty-first psalm”); Luke 23:46.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.23 (CSEL 32.2:284; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.24CSEL 32.2:284
non ergo aliqui addant: domine, ut psaltae faciunt, quod neque in Latino codice inueni meo neque in Graeco neque in euangelio, quod est euidentius. denique supra dixerat: pater, dimitte illis hoc peccatum, et ideo tamquam patri in manus eius commendare se spiritum suum, in cuius sinu semper est filius. quamquam etsi addant quod dixerit domine, considerent quod quasi homo in morte positus hoc loquatur.
Let no one, then, add “Lord,” as the psalm singers do, which I have found neither in my Latin manuscript nor in the Greek nor in the Gospel, which is clearer. Indeed above he had said: “Father, forgive them this sin,” and therefore he commended his spirit into his hands as to a Father, in whose bosom the Son always is. Although, even if they add that he said “Lord,” let them consider that he speaks thus as a man placed in death.
Luke 23:46 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 23:34 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:18 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Ambrose rejects the addition of “Lord” to Christ’s last words, which were addressed to the Father.
- Ambrose discusses a reading of Luke 23:46 (“Lord” or “Father”) in liturgical psalm-singing. Luke 23:34 (with “this sin,” cf. Acts 7:60); John 1:18.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.24 (CSEL 32.2:284; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.25CSEL 32.2:284–285
ergo proiectus est de utero in patrem, de uentre matris suae, hoc est: definiuit quod ille uterus qui proiecit eum uenter est matris. pater autem dicit: ex utero ante luciferum genui te. non proiecit utique filium pater, a quo numquam egressus est filius, sicut ipse ait: traditus sum et non egrediebar. non proiecit eum, cui eiusdem substantiae unitate conectitur. potest ergo et sic legi: in te proiectus sum ex utero de uentre matris meae, ut sequatur: deus meus es tu, ne discedas a me. potest et sic: de uentre matris meae deus meus es tu, quoniam et in utero positus a te numquam recessi; tecum eram qui tamquam Ionas in utero ceti positus te pro populo deprecabar. et uere de uentre matris suae cum deo erat, secundum quod scriptum est: quoniam priusquam sciret puer bonum aut malum, elegit quod bonum est et: antequam patrem uocaret aut matrem, uirtutem Damasci et spolia Samariae depraedatus est, ut gentibus euocatis regnum patri piae cultu deuotionis adquireret.
So he was cast from the womb upon the Father, “from his mother’s belly”; that is, he defined that the womb which cast him forth is his mother’s belly. But the Father says: “From the womb before the morning star I begot you.” The Father surely did not cast forth the Son, from whom the Son never went out, as he himself says: “I was delivered up and did not go out.” He did not cast forth him to whom he is joined by the unity of the same substance. It can therefore also be read thus: “Upon you I was cast from the womb, from my mother’s belly,” so that there follows: “You are my God; do not depart from me.” It can also be read thus: “From my mother’s belly you are my God,” since even placed in the womb I never withdrew from you; I was with you, I who, like Jonah placed in the belly of the whale, was entreating you for the people. And truly from his mother’s belly he was with God, according to what is written: “For before the child knew good or evil, he chose what is good,” and: “Before he could call father or mother, he plundered the power of Damascus and the spoils of Samaria,” so that, the Gentiles called forth, he might gain a kingdom for the Father by the worship of devout piety.
Ps 22:10 (21:11 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:3 (109:3 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 88:8 (87:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:11 (21:12 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Jonah 2:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 7:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 8:4 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The Son was cast from Mary’s womb, not the Father’s, from whom he never departed, being of one substance; from the womb he was always with God.
- Ps 22:10–11 (Vulgate 21:11–12); Ps 110:3 (Vulgate 109:3); Ps 88:8 (Vulgate 87:9); Jonah 2:1–2; Isa 7:16; 8:4.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.25 (CSEL 32.2:284–285; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).
4.26CSEL 32.2:285–287
Uideamus cetera. quare inquit me reppulisti et quare tristis incedo, dum adfligit me inimicus, confringit ossa mea? exprobrauerunt mihi qui tribulant me, dum dicitur mihi cottidie: ubi est deus tuus? quare tristis es, anima? et reliqua. prima interpellatio querellam habuit, quod conperendinarentur bona, quorum iam fructus desiderabatur. secunda interpellatio, quod expectatus prudentibus Christi differebatur aduentus, quem lex adnuntiauerat, quem prophetae pollicebantur, et eo inpatientius aestuabant corda iustorum, quoniam ad omnium redemptionem cognouerant esse uenturum...... quoque uniuersorum, quibus euangelico tramite uiam uirtutis aperiret bonorumque operum semitas demonstraret, sicut ipse dixit in Prouerbiis: dominus creauit me principium uiarum suarum. ideo ergo dicebatur ei: ubi est deus tuus? quia adhuc non uenerat Christus, sed sperabatur. saeuiebat ergo diabolus, ut obtereret quos sciebat in aduentum domini credituros, et <eos> diuersis adflictabat exitiis. interpellat ergo Dauid, ut morantem excitet questu prophetico, festinare urgeat, admoneat subuenire. habemus similitudinem huius interpellationis etiam in posterioribus, ubi dicit idem propheta: ut quid reppulisti nos, deus, in finem? et ibi aperte quod congregationis suae oblitus sit et uirgam suae hereditatis abiecerit flebiliter deplorauit et quod in plebem dei insurrexerint eius inimici, de quibus ait: et gloriati sunt qui oderunt te in medio festi tui. forte hic uersiculus uideretur Assyrios declarare, qui triumphauerunt populum Iudaeorum, nisi sequeretur: posuerunt signa sua signa, et non cognoui. signa semper in bello sunt, quae proeliaturos praeire consuerunt et agmen ducere militare. unusquisque numerus aut legio signa sequitur sua. et si dispersi fuerint bellorum tumultu, eo ubi signa sua esse perspexerint quamquam longe positi reuertuntur. unusquisque ductor haec signa constituit et sequenda praescribit. sed sunt etiam alia signa, quae uictor hostis inponit et tamquam captiuis obseruanda decernit, sed qui fidelis est miles propria signa sequitur, non cognoscit aliena.
Let us look at the rest. “Why,” he says, “have you cast me off, and why do I go about sad while the enemy afflicts me, breaks my bones? Those who trouble me have reproached me, while it is said to me daily: Where is your God? Why are you sad, my soul?” and the rest. The first remonstrance contained a complaint that the good things whose fruit was already desired were being put off. The second remonstrance: that the coming of Christ, awaited by the wise, was being delayed, the coming which the law had announced, which the prophets promised; and the hearts of the just burned the more impatiently because they had learned that he would come for the redemption of all … also of all, to whom he would open the way of virtue by the path of the Gospel and show the paths of good works, as he himself said in Proverbs: “The Lord created me as the beginning of his ways.” Therefore it was said to him: “Where is your God?” because Christ had not yet come but was hoped for. The devil raged, then, to crush those whom he knew would believe at the Lord’s coming, and he afflicted them with various deaths. David remonstrates, then, to rouse the one who delays by a prophetic complaint, to urge him to hasten, to remind him to help. We have a likeness of this remonstrance later too, where the same prophet says: “O God, why have you cast us off for ever?” And there he openly and tearfully lamented that he had forgotten his congregation and cast away the rod of his inheritance, and that his enemies had risen against the people of God, of whom he says: “And those who hate you have boasted in the midst of your feast.” Perhaps this little verse would seem to point to the Assyrians, who triumphed over the people of the Jews, were it not followed by: “They set up their signs as signs, and I did not know them.” There are always standards in war, which usually go before those about to fight and lead the column of soldiers. Each unit or legion follows its own standards; and if they have been scattered in the tumult of battle, they return to where they see their standards, however far off they are. Each commander sets up these standards and prescribes that they be followed. But there are also other standards which a victorious enemy imposes and decrees to be observed as by captives; but the faithful soldier follows his own standards and does not recognize others’.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Ps 42:9 (41:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:10 (41:11 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:11 (41:12 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 74:1 (73:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 74:2 (73:2 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 74:4 (73:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: David’s second remonstrance longs for Christ’s delayed coming; the faithful soldier follows Christ’s standards and does not recognize the enemy’s.
- Ps 42:9–11 (Vulgate 41:10–12); Prov 8:22 in the form of the Greek; Ps 74:1–4 (Vulgate 73:1–4). The digital text marks a gap before “also of all.” “Them” (eos) is supplied by the editor. Signa means both “standards” and “signs.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR m for in; split word in the digital text; stray point in the digital text): anima? et. reliqua → anima? et reliqua; dixit m Prouerbiis → dixit in Prouerbiis; cap-. tiuis → captiuis.
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Interp. 4.26 (CSEL 32.2:285–287; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrose-interpellatione/4-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (Schenkl, CSEL 32.2); checked afterwards against FOTC 65 (private error-checking only).