On the Faith against the Manichaeans 32–49

Latin text: CSEL 25 (Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).

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Chapter 32

32CSEL 25:965

Omnes apostoli, omnes linguae rationales dominum Christum passum esse clamant, omnis sana fides Christum pro nobis passum confitetur, et Manichaeus daemones omnes illas passiones adserit pertulisse. non enim propterea dicit eos passos. quia de ipsis dominus triumphauit et de ipsis nos per patientiam triumphare docuit. sed quia dominum Christum negant habuisse carnem mortalem. quibus dicimus: si non habebat carnem mortalem, quid erat, quod tenuerunt Iudaei? quid erat, quod in cruce pendebat? quid confixum erat clauis in ligno? quid est percussum lancea, unde sanguis et aqua profluxit? si enim uisa sunt tantum fieri et facta non sunt, phantasma erunt. quod nefas est credere.

All the apostles, all rational tongues proclaim that Christ the Lord suffered; every sound faith confesses that Christ suffered for us; and Mani asserts that demons endured all those sufferings. For he does not say they suffered because the Lord triumphed over them and taught us to triumph over them through patience, but because they deny that Christ the Lord had mortal flesh. To them we say: If he did not have mortal flesh, what was it that the Jews seized? What was it that hung on the cross? What was fixed with nails to the wood? What was pierced with the spear, from which blood and water flowed? For if these things only seemed to be done and were not done, they will be a phantasm, which it is wicked to believe.

John 19:34 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Pet 2:21 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: If Christ had no mortal flesh, his crucifixion and piercing would be a mere phantasm.

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Incarnation

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 32 (CSEL 25:965; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/32). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 33

33CSEL 25:965

Si autem uere facta sunt. non tamen in carne mortali, sed in ipsa diuina substantia facta esse dicitis mutabilem dicitis esse diuinam substantiam et uisibilem carneis oculis et palpabilem carneis manibus et uulnerabilem ferro: quae rursus nefas est credere. et ideo dum timet dicere Manichaeus, quia ista facta non sunt, et iterum timet dicere, quia in diuina substantia facta sunt, et non uult confiteri. quia nec intellegere potuit, quomodo filius dei, per quem facta sunt omnia. sine aliqua mutatione uel coinquinatione diuinae substantiae suae hominem cum carne susceperit: coactus est dicere, quia non Christus, sed princeps tenebrarum cum suis sociis illa omnia passus est. miseri! non timetis, ne dicatur uobis in iudicio: ego uos liberaui. pro quibus passus sum: ite. ille nos liberet. cui meas ascribitis passiones.-

But if these things really were done, yet not in mortal flesh, and you say they were done in the divine substance itself, you are saying that the divine substance is changeable, visible to fleshly eyes, palpable to fleshly hands, and capable of being wounded by iron; which again it is wicked to believe. And so, since Mani fears to say that these things were not done, and fears again to say that they were done in the divine substance, and will not confess, because he could not even understand, how the Son of God, through whom all things were made, took on a man with flesh without any change or defilement of his divine substance, he was forced to say that not Christ, but the prince of darkness with his companions suffered all those things. Wretched people! Do you not fear that it will be said to you at the judgment: "I set you free, for whom I suffered: go, let him set you free to whom you ascribe my sufferings"?

John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Mani, unable to accept either a phantasm or a suffering divine substance, ascribed the passion to the prince of darkness.

  • The words of Christ at the judgment are Evodius's own imagined speech, not a quotation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR: J for l): palpabiJem → palpabilem; non unit confiteri → non uult confiteri.

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Passion and death of Christ

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 33 (CSEL 25:965; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/33). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 34

34CSEL 25:965–966

Dicitis magno errore, sed tamen dicitis Christum cotidie nasci, cotidie pati, cotidie mori, numquid forte in iis. qui credunt et pro nomine ipsius tribulationes mortemque patiuntur? non, inquiunt, sed in cucurbitis et poris et in portulaca et ceteris huiusmodi rebus. magna ridicula, magna. caecitas: superius passionibus daemonum, hic passionibus holerum homines liberantur a peccatis.

You say, in great error, but you say it nonetheless, that Christ is born daily, suffers daily, dies daily. Is it perhaps in those who believe and suffer tribulations and death for his name? "No," they say, "but in gourds and leeks and purslane and other such things." What great absurdity, what great blindness! Above it was by the sufferings of demons, here by the sufferings of vegetables that human beings are freed from sins.

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius ridicules the Manichaean teaching that Christ suffers daily in vegetables.

  • The "suffering Jesus" (Jesus patibilis) of Manichaean teaching, the light held in plants.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 34 (CSEL 25:965–966; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/34). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 35

35CSEL 25:966

Item cum eis dicimus: quid factura erat deo gens tenebrarum, si nollet cum illa pugnare? dicunt: nihil fieri potuit deo incorruptibili. non enim si quia uerbi gratia sphaeram uitream solidam unguibus lacerare uoluerit, aliquid ei umquam faciet saeuitia unguium suorum. sed si uel talem substantiam diuinam isti esse fingerent, ut omnis saeuitia gentis tenebrarum talis ad illam esset, quales sunt ungues lacerantis ad sphaeram uitream, non deus Manichaei hodie luctum pateretur de partis suae abscissione uel amissione: quam partem dicunt, cum in fructibus uel in herbis fuerit, id est in melone uel beta uel talibus rebus, et principium suum et medietatem et finem nosse, cum autem ad carnem uenerit, omnem intellegentiam amittere; et propterea magister hominibus missus sit, quia stulta in illis facta est pars dei, et propterea non sit missus melonibus, quia sapientem habent animam.

Again, when we say to them, "What was the race of darkness going to do to God if he had been unwilling to fight with it?", they say: "Nothing could happen to an incorruptible God. For if, for example, someone wished to tear a solid glass sphere with his nails, the fury of his nails would never do anything to it." But if these people even imagined the divine substance to be such that all the fury of the race of darkness were toward it as the nails of one tearing are toward a glass sphere, Mani's god would not be suffering mourning today over the cutting off or loss of his part. Of that part they say that when it is in fruits or herbs, that is, in a melon or beet or such things, it knows its beginning and middle and end, but when it comes to flesh it loses all understanding; and that a teacher was sent to human beings for this reason, because the part of God in them has become foolish, and that one was not sent to melons for this reason, because they have a wise soul.

Notes and citation

Summary: Mani's god cannot be like an untouchable glass sphere if his part mourns, and the Manichees even say melons have a wiser soul than human beings.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: a for e; OCR: letters transposed): in malone → in melone; meloinbus → melonibus.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 35 (CSEL 25:966; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/35). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 36

36CSEL 25:966–967

Quis ista credat uel ab hominibus aliquando uel inter homines posse dici? sed tamen quomodo nihil mali patitur substantia dei uestri, cum et in pomis ligatur et in carne excaecatur uel cum uolens redire deicitur ad terras a gente tenebrarum? sed si nihil ei mali contigit uel contingit, falsa omnia sunt, quae Manichaeus dixit in epistula Fundamenti, quae caput est omnium uanarum fabularum, uel in Thesauro. qui thesaurus est omnium turpitudinum et blasphemiarum, uel in ceteris omnibus libris, in quibus tanta loquacitate nihil aliud quam infelicitatem substantiae dei, quam conmixtam dicit principibus tenebrarum, et in diuinis uirtutibus tristitiam propter illam magnam sollicitudinem ut liberetur adfirmat. nam reuera nihil mali aut potuit aut poterit pati substantia dei nec aliquem habet inimicum, qui eius partem ingenitam corrumpat, sed homines sunt deo uel potius sibi inimici non obtemperando praeceptis dei et cupiditatibus se potius corrumpendo, non deum.

Who could believe that such things could ever be said by human beings, or among human beings? But how does the substance of your god suffer no evil, when it is bound in apples and blinded in flesh, or when, wishing to return, it is cast down to the earth by the race of darkness? But if no evil happened or happens to it, then everything is false that Mani said in the Fundamental Epistle, which is the head of all vain fables, or in the Thesaurus, which is a treasury of all shamefulness and blasphemies, or in all his other books, in which with so much talk he asserts nothing but the misfortune of God's substance, which he says is mixed with the princes of darkness, and sadness in the divine powers because of their great anxiety that it be set free. For in truth the substance of God could not and cannot suffer any evil, nor does it have any enemy that could corrupt its unbegotten part; but human beings are enemies to God, or rather to themselves, by not obeying God's commands and corrupting themselves, not God, by their desires.

Notes and citation

Summary: If God's substance suffers no evil, all Mani's books are false; it is human beings who corrupt themselves by disobedience.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: o for e; OCR: t for r): uanatum → uanarum; sollicitudinom → sollicitudinem.

Extrabiblical texts: Mani, Ep. fund. (Mani, Letter of the Foundation; allusion); Mani, Thes. (Mani, Treasure; allusion)

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 36 (CSEL 25:966–967; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/36). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 37

37CSEL 25:967–968

Duorum uero testamentorum concordiam si simplici oculo intendere uelitis, o Manichaei, facillime uideretis. rabide enim ferimini in id, quod scriptum est: spiritus dei superferebatur super aquam et: uidit deus quia bonum est et: Adam ubi es? et: deus zelans et: ignis edax et: gladius meus et cetera talia, non considerantes, quia, si alius ita caecus sit, ut reprehendere uelit illud domini, quod in euangelio dictum est: non iurabis per caelum, quoniam sedes est dei; neque per terram, quia scabellum est pedum eius, et hoc dicat quod uos mira dementia dicere soletis; ubi erat deus, ante quam esset caelum et terra? aut quod scriptum est: et miratus est Iesus, cum mirari nemo soleat nisi de re, quae illi erat incognita. uidere autem quia bonum est, non sit ignorantis sed quia placuit ei quod fecit. aut illud, quod scriptum est dicente domino: quis me tetigit? et de Lazaro: ubi posuistis eum? et: ego ueni non pacem mittere super terram sed gladium et: ignem ueni mittere in mundum et: ueni, ut qui non uident, uideant, et qui uident, caeci fiant et: uendite res uestras et emite uobis gladios et apostolus: zelo dei uos zelo et: reuelabitur ira dei de caelo super omnem inpietatem et cetera innumerabilia ab ipso domino uel ab apostolis dicta uel facta, quae insanissime poterunt homines accusare non intellegentes. nam et auari uel flagitiosi possunt aliter accipere, quod dominus ait, ut si quis dimiserit, quae habet, septuplum aut etiam centuplum in hoc saeculo accipiat; aut si aliquis uxorem, ancillam uel etiam meretrices dimittere propter dominum uelit spe illius multiplicationis faciat, non amore iustitiae. possunt etiam horrere male intellegentes quod ait: si quis non manducauerit carnem meam et biberit sanguinem meum, non habebit in se uitam. nam quod ait: qui dixerit fratri suo fatue, reus erit gehennae ignis, si dicant stulti, ecce pro conuicio gehenna minatur. quem dicitis misericordem ignoscere peccata; nonne ignorant, ubi caput habeant. et tamen aliquid sibi uidentur dicere? aut quod tam multas animas necandas daemonibus in porcis tradidit, cum tales animas dicatis esse porcorum quales sunt hominum? aut quod arborem, in qua fructus, quia non erat tempus, non inuenit. uerbo aridam fecit quam animam intellegentem dicitis habere?

If you were willing to look with a single eye, O Manichees, you would very easily see the harmony of the two Testaments. For you rush furiously at what is written: "The Spirit of God was borne over the water," and "God saw that it was good," and "Adam, where are you?" and "a jealous God," and "a devouring fire," and "my sword," and other such things. You do not consider that, if someone else were so blind as to wish to find fault with what the Lord said in the Gospel, "You shall not swear by heaven, for it is the throne of God, nor by the earth, for it is the footstool of his feet," he might say what you with astonishing madness are accustomed to say: "Where was God before heaven and earth existed?" Or what is written: "And Jesus marvelled," since no one marvels except at something unknown to him; whereas to see that something is good is not a sign of ignorance but that what he made pleased him. Or what is written of the Lord saying, "Who touched me?" and of Lazarus, "Where have you laid him?" and "I came not to send peace on earth but a sword," and "I came to cast fire on the world," and "I came that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind," and "Sell your goods and buy yourselves swords," and the apostle: "I am jealous for you with the jealousy of God," and "The wrath of God will be revealed from heaven against all ungodliness," and countless other things said or done by the Lord himself or by the apostles, which people who do not understand could most insanely accuse. For the greedy or the wicked could take otherwise what the Lord says, that if anyone gives up what he has, he will receive sevenfold or even a hundredfold in this age; or someone might wish to put away a wife, a maidservant, or even harlots for the Lord's sake, and do it in hope of that multiplication, not from love of righteousness. Those who understand badly could also shudder at what he says: "Unless one eats my flesh and drinks my blood, he will not have life in him." And as for his saying, "Whoever says to his brother 'Fool' will be liable to the Gehenna of fire," if foolish people say, "Look, Gehenna is threatened for an insult; this is the one you call merciful in forgiving sins!", do they not show they do not know where their head is, and yet think they are saying something? Or that he handed over so many souls to be killed by demons in the swine, though you say the souls of swine are such as those of human beings? Or that by his word he made the tree wither on which he found no fruit, because it was not the season, a tree you say has an intelligent soul?

Matt 6:22 (echo, low confidence) · Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 4:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 32:41 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 5:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 8:45 (quotation, high confidence) · John 11:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 10:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:49 (quotation, high confidence) · John 9:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:36 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 11:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 19:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 18:29 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 6:53 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 5:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 11:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 11:14 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Manichees attack Old Testament expressions that have equally striking parallels in the New Testament; read with goodwill, the two Testaments agree.

  • "Sevenfold" may echo the Old Latin of Luke 18:30. The passage on putting away a wife for the Lord's sake concerns a misreading of Christ's promise (Luke 18:29–30), not a ruling on divorce.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR: ant for aut; stray mark): misencordem → misericordem; e.t miratus → et miratus; ant quod tam multas → aut quod tam multas.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy, Divorce and remarriage, Manichaeism

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 37 (CSEL 25:967–968; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/37). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 38

38CSEL 25:968–969

Ecce quanta iniquissimi et caeci. homines de diuinis eloquiis possunt dicere, sicut uos in ea. quae mystice facta uel dicta sunt in ueteribus libris, ignorantes ferimini, ut temere accusetis, quod non intellegitis, haec autem cum de nouo testamento uobis obiecta fuerint, dicitis diuina et spiritalia significare. ueteris autem testamenti sanctas litteras figurate posse accipi negatis, cum et ipse dominus figurate inde quaedam dixerit et apostolus Paulus omnia. illi populo in figura contigisse scribat. nam et ipse regulam monstrans multa inde exposuit. sed forte dicitis solita uanitate et obtunso corde contra dominum uel apostoli auctoritatem loquentes ueteris testamenti dicta exponi prorsus non posse, solum autem nouum in talibus exponi posse.. et non consideratis non uos habere quid dicere, si ab aliis inpiis uobis, dicatur uetus potius exponi posse, nouum non posse. mens autem sana utrumque testamentum considerans quaecumque in uno inuenerit expositionem admittere, sine dubio in altero declarabit. multum adparet inperitia uestra uel potius malitia. adtendite in actibus Leuci, quos sub nomine apostolorum scribit, qualia sint quae accipitis de Maximilla uxore Egetis. quae cum nollet marito debitum reddere, cum apostolus dixerit: uxori uir debitum reddat, similiter et uxor uiro, illa subposuerit marito suo ancillam suam, Eucliam nomine, exornans eam, sicut ibi scriptum est, aduersariis lenociniis et fucationibus et eam nocte pro se uicariam subponens, ut ille nesciens cum ea tamquam cum uxore concumberet. ibi etiam scriptum est. quod cum eadem Maximilla et Iphidamia simul issent ad audiendum apostolum Andream, puerulus quidam speciosus. quem uult Leucius uel deum uel certe angelum intellegi, commendauerit eas Andreae apostolo et perrexerit ad praetorium Egetis et ingressus cubiculum eorum finxerit uocem muliebrem quasi Maximillae murmurantis de doloribus sexus feminei et Iphidamiae respondentis. quae colloquia cum audisset Egetes credens eas ibi esse discesserat. quid ad haec dicitis? rogo uos. quare non timuit Maximilla per turpissimum lenocinium ancillae suae ligare animas in carne? cum autem illum puerulum tam turpiter credatis esse mentitum, quis uobis credat loquentibus, quando si mentiamini, dominum uos dicitis imitari?

See how much wicked and blind people could say against the divine oracles, just as you, in ignorance, rush at the things done or said mystically in the old books, so as rashly to accuse what you do not understand. Yet when such things from the New Testament are put to you, you say they signify divine and spiritual things; but you deny that the holy writings of the Old Testament can be taken figuratively, although the Lord himself said certain things figuratively from them, and the apostle Paul writes that all things happened to that people in figure. Indeed he himself, showing the rule, expounded many things from it. But perhaps you will say, with your usual vanity and dull heart, speaking against the authority of the Lord and of the apostle, that the sayings of the Old Testament cannot be expounded at all, and only the New can be expounded in such matters. And you do not consider that you would have nothing to say if other impious people told you that it is rather the Old that can be expounded and the New that cannot. A sound mind, however, considering both Testaments, will without doubt declare in the one whatever it finds admits of exposition in the other. Your ignorance, or rather your malice, is very evident. Look in the Acts of Leucius, which he writes under the name of the apostles, at the kind of things you accept about Maximilla, the wife of Egetes. When she was unwilling to render the marital debt to her husband, though the apostle said, "Let the husband render the debt to the wife, and likewise the wife to the husband," she substituted her maidservant, named Euclia, for her husband, adorning her, as it is written there, with hostile allurements and paint, and putting her in her own place by night, so that he, unaware, slept with her as with his wife. It is also written there that when this same Maximilla and Iphidamia had gone together to hear the apostle Andrew, a certain handsome little boy, whom Leucius wants to be understood as either God or at least an angel, commended them to the apostle Andrew and went to the praetorium of Egetes, and entering their bedchamber counterfeited a woman's voice, as if Maximilla were complaining of the pains of the female sex and Iphidamia answering. When Egetes heard these conversations, he went away believing they were there. What do you say to this, I ask you? Why did Maximilla not fear, by the most shameful procuring of her maidservant, to bind souls in flesh? And since you believe that little boy lied so shamefully, who would believe you when you speak, when, if you lie, you say you are imitating the Lord?

Matt 13:13 (echo, low confidence) · 1 Cor 10:11 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 7:3 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Manichees allow figurative reading of the New Testament but not the Old, yet accept the Acts of Leucius, with its story of Maximilla deceiving her husband.

  • The story of Maximilla, wife of Aegeates (here "Egetes"), and her maid Euclia is from the apocryphal Acts of Andrew, ascribed to Leucius.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR and stray hyphen; OCR: 86 for se; OCR: i for f; stray hyphen): pofcsont → possunt; ierimini → ferimini; cain et ipse → cum et ipse; -contigiase → contigisse; in UllO inuenerit → in uno inuenerit; uxori-uir → uxori uir; pro 86 uicariam → pro se uicariam; apustolum → apostolum; doloribos → doloribus; ciun audisset → cum audisset; dicit-is → dicitis.

Extrabiblical texts: Acts Andr. (Acts of Andrew; allusion)

Topics: Scripture and canon, Marriage, Heresy, Interpreting Scripture, Manichaeism

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 38 (CSEL 25:968–969; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/38). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 39

39CSEL 25:969–970

Sed uos temeritate pleni adhuc inruite in ueteres libros, ut quae nescitis potius accusare quam discere laboretis. considerate. quae ibi miracula sint. si miraculis noui testamenti delectamini. ibi mortui primo suscitati, ibi leprosi primo mundati et alia multa quae diligenter et pie quaerentibus ad aedificandam fidem innotescunt. si autem bonis praeceptis delectamini, ibi primitus scripta sunt duo illa praecepta. quae sublimiter dominus laudat de diligendo deo et proximo. ibi dimittenda domus parentes et filii et cetera propter dominum, ibi non reddendum malum pro malo, ibi orandum pro inimicis, ibi inimico ignoscendum, ibi tradenda maxilla ad accipiendam alapam et quaecumque in nouo testamento praecepta sunt non solum ibi mandata sed etiam a sanctis uiris omni uigilantia conpleta. numquid et hoc poterit dicere malitia uestra quaecumque bona et magnifica ibi scripta sunt falsa esse et adposita? illa uero. quae non intellegentes putatis mala, ea tantummodo uera esse? debetis enim adtendere alios similiter inpios ita de nouo testamento facere posse, ut quaecumque ibi sunt, quae non intellegentes putauerint mala, ea reprehendant et dicant ipsa ibi esse sola uera, illa autem omnia, quae ibi aperte magnificata sunt, dicant esse falsa atque ab amatoribus domini adposita, ne omnia uiderentur fugienda. ut et uos et illi tali caecitate percussi iam iudicati et damnati fugiamini. tandem uigilate et a blasphemiis conquiescite atque omnium sanctarum canonicarum scripturarum, si christiani esse cogitatis, auctoritatem recipite et quae non intellegitis accusare nolite. sed potius eorum intellectum desiderate.

But you, full of rashness, still rush at the old books, toiling to accuse rather than to learn what you do not know. Consider what miracles are there, if you delight in the miracles of the New Testament: there the dead were first raised, there lepers were first cleansed, and many other things become known to those who seek diligently and reverently, for the building up of faith. If you delight in good precepts, there were first written those two precepts about loving God and neighbour which the Lord so sublimely praises; there home, parents, children and the rest are to be left for the Lord's sake; there evil is not to be returned for evil; there one is to pray for enemies; there an enemy is to be forgiven; there the cheek is to be offered to receive a blow; and whatever precepts are in the New Testament are not only commanded there but also fulfilled with all vigilance by holy men. Will your malice be able to say even this, that whatever good and magnificent things are written there are false and inserted, and that only those things which, not understanding, you think evil are true? You ought to consider that other impious people could do the same with the New Testament, finding fault with whatever there, not understanding, they have thought evil, saying that only these things there are true, and that all those things that are openly extolled there are false and inserted by lovers of the Lord, so that not everything should seem worth fleeing. Then both you and they, struck with such blindness, already judged and condemned, would be fled from. Wake up at last, cease from blasphemies, and receive the authority of all the holy canonical Scriptures, if you mean to be Christians, and do not accuse what you do not understand, but rather desire to understand it.

1 Kgs 17:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Kgs 5:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · Deut 6:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 19:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 22:37 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 33:9 (echo, low confidence) · Prov 20:22 (allusion, low confidence) · Prov 25:21 (allusion, low confidence) · Lam 3:30 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Old Testament already contains the miracles and moral precepts the Manichees admire in the New; they should accept all the canonical Scriptures.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR and joined words; stray mark): testament.o → testamento; putauerinfmala → putauerint mala.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy, Canon of Scripture, Manichaeism

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 39 (CSEL 25:969–970; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/39). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 40

40CSEL 25:970–971

Nam quale est etiam illud, quod resurrectionem carnis negatis? Paulus apostolus clamat: seminatur in corruptione, resurgit in incorruptione; seminatur in contumelia, surgit in gloria; seminatur in infirmitate, surgit in uirtute; seminatur corpus animale, surgit, corpus spiritale; et uos contra reclamatis carnem hominis non posse resurgere et eam tenebrarum principem habere auctorem, cum eandem apostolus membra Christi et templum spiritus sancti esse dicat. nescitis, inquit, quia corpora uestra membra sunt Christi? quod non utique secundum infirmitatem praesentis corruptionis, quae de peccati originalis poena descendit, sed secundum adoptionem futurae resurrectionis dicit, sicut et alibi ait: et ipsi in nobis ingemiscimus adoptionem expectantes redemptionem corporis nostri. alibi etiam eandem carnem ecclesiae conparauit, cum de coniugio loqueretur, dicens: nemo enim umquam carnem suam odio habet, sed nutrit et fouet eam sicut. Christus ecclesiam. quod ergo alio loco dicit: caro concupiscit aduersus spiritum, spiritus autem aduersus carnem, non carnem damnat, ut eam tamquam inimicam existimemus, sed admonet potius, ut subiugemus nobis eam, ut ad bona opera concipienda et parienda uelut coniux spiritui seruiat: quod dicit non posse fieri nisi gratia dei per Iesum Christum dominum nostrum. non enim natura carnis, sed poena eius nobis reluctatur, quia peccato meruimus esse mortales. nam iterum dicit: corpus uestrum templum est in nobis spiritus sancti. et tamen cum ipsa caro propter praesentem infirmitatem foenum appelletur, creditis Iohannem de foeno aurum fecisse et non creditis deum omnipotentem de corpore animali spiritale corpus facere posse. nam propter ipsam conmutationem carnis, quae futura est, quoniam de ista carne caeleste corpus deus facturus est, quando erimus aequales angelis dei, propterea uerissime dicit idem apostolus. caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt.

For what of this too, that you deny the resurrection of the flesh? The apostle Paul cries out: "It is sown in corruption, it rises in incorruption; it is sown in dishonour, it rises in glory; it is sown in weakness, it rises in power; it is sown a natural body, it rises a spiritual body." And you cry out against him that human flesh cannot rise and that its author is the prince of darkness, although the apostle says that it is the members of Christ and the temple of the Holy Spirit. "Do you not know," he says, "that your bodies are members of Christ?" He does not say this, of course, according to the weakness of the present corruption, which comes down from the punishment of original sin, but according to the adoption of the future resurrection, as he also says elsewhere: "And we ourselves groan within ourselves, awaiting the adoption, the redemption of our body." Elsewhere too he compared this same flesh to the church when he was speaking of marriage, saying: "For no one ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church." So when he says in another place, "The flesh lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh," he does not condemn the flesh, so that we should think it an enemy, but rather admonishes us to subdue it to ourselves, so that it may serve the spirit like a wife in conceiving and bringing forth good works; which he says cannot be done except by the grace of God through Jesus Christ our Lord. For it is not the nature of the flesh but its punishment that struggles against us, because by sin we deserved to be mortal. For again he says: "Your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit in you." And yet, though this flesh is called grass because of its present weakness, you believe that John made gold out of hay, and do not believe that almighty God can make a spiritual body out of a natural body. For it is because of this change of the flesh that is to come, since God will make a heavenly body out of this flesh when we shall be equal to the angels of God, that the same apostle says most truly: "Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God."

1 Cor 15:42 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:43 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:44 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:15 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 5:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 5:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 7:25 (allusion, medium confidence) · Isa 40:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 20:36 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against the Manichaean denial of the resurrection of the flesh, Evodius cites Paul: the body will be changed, not discarded.

  • The story of John turning hay (or twigs) into gold is from the apocryphal Acts of John (cf. Acts John 's rich young men'); identification probable.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR and line-break split; OCR: a for u; OCR: repeated fragment and misread word; split word; stray hyphen): clamat:- seminatur → clamat: seminatur; sur git → surgit; camem → carnem; caro coijcu-. piscit → caro concupiscit; carnem em, non caniem → carnem, non carnem; auram → aurum.

Extrabiblical texts: Acts John (Acts of John; allusion)

Topics: Eschatology, Heresy, Resurrection of the body, Manichaeism

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 40 (CSEL 25:970–971; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/40). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 41

41CSEL 25:971

Sed non mirum, quod ita caeci estis, ut non posse ab omnipotente deo ista fieri putetis, cum etiam dicitis mundum uel omnia, quae facta sunt, non potuisse aliter deum facere nisi magna et miserabili necessitate et nisi esset materia, quae illum ad operationem mundi adiuuaret, ut inde posset partem suam liberare. eligite ergo nunc, quid sequi uelitis: deum minus potentem et infirmum, qui necessitate partis suae in miseria constitutae a materia, quam ipse non fecerat, ut mundum faceret adiutus est, an deum omnipotentem, qui nulla necessitate, sed propria uoluntate et summa potestate dixit, et facta sunt, mandauit et creata sunt; qui uocat ea. quae non sunt, tamquam ea, quae sint.

But it is no wonder that you are so blind as to think that these things cannot be done by almighty God, when you even say that God could not have made the world, or all things that were made, except under great and miserable necessity, and unless there were matter that helped him in making the world, so that he could free his part from it. Choose, then, which you wish to follow: a god less powerful and weak, who because of the necessity of his part placed in misery was helped by matter, which he had not made, to make the world; or almighty God, who by no necessity but by his own will and supreme power spoke, and they were made, commanded, and they were created; "who calls the things that are not as though they were."

Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:9 (32:9 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 4:17 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The choice is between a weak god needing matter to free his part and the almighty God who creates by his word.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for o): ncn sunt → non sunt.

Topics: Heresy, Creation

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 41 (CSEL 25:971; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/41). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 42

42CSEL 25:971

Uos ergo homines, qui ista inpietate Manichaei estis decepti, fugite, festinate, dum licet, ne damnationem aeternam ab illo iusto iudice mereamini; paeniteat nos peccatorum uestrorum, si cupitis liberari, et nolite audire Manichaeos dicentes: non peccamus nos, hoc est animae lucis, sed peccat gens tenebrarum. si enim ita est, quare nos terrent, ut eis credamus? non enim possunt dicere, quia infidelitas non est peccatum, cum scriptum sit: qui non credit, iam iudicatus est.

You, then, who have been deceived by this impiety of Mani, flee, make haste while you may, lest you deserve eternal condemnation from that just Judge. Repent of your sins, if you desire to be set free, and do not listen to the Manichees saying: "We do not sin, that is, the souls of light; it is the race of darkness that sins." For if that is so, why do they frighten us into believing them? For they cannot say that unbelief is not a sin, since it is written: "Whoever does not believe is already judged."

John 3:18 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius urges the deceived to repent, since even unbelief is a sin and cannot be blamed on the race of darkness.

  • The digital text has "let us repent" (nos) in an exhortation to "you"; translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): indicatus → iudicatus.

Topics: Heresy, Repentance

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 42 (CSEL 25:971; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/42). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 43

43CSEL 25:971–972

Si ergo infidelitas peccatum est, et non peccat nisi gens tenebrarum, restat, ut ab omni peccato pars lucis inmunis inueniatur. omnes ergo ad regnum redeunt, quia ipsi non peccant, et nihil timendum est alicui animae, quia nihil peccat, et falsa sunt. quae Manichaeus dicit, succisiuam lucis partem, hoc est animas peccatrices damnari ad custodiam globi, ut aliqua securitas diuinis regnis in periculo constitutis tandem aliquando conparetur. necesse est ergo, ut aut pars lucis peccet aut pars tenebrarum. sed si pars lucis peccat, deus peccat, quod nefas est dicere: si autem pars tenebrarum peccat, ipsa uocatur ad regnum per eum, qui dixit: non ueni uocare iustos sed peccatores, quia non est opus sanis medicus, sed male habentibus. illa autem diuinitas de diuinitate et lux de lumine tenebrarum generi degenerans in aeternum sociatur.

If, then, unbelief is a sin, and none sins but the race of darkness, it follows that the part of light is found free from all sin. So all return to the kingdom, because they do not sin, and no soul has anything to fear, because it does not sin at all; and what Mani says is false, that the cut-off part of the light, that is, the sinful souls, is condemned to the custody of the globe, so that some security might at last be procured for the divine kingdoms placed in danger. It is necessary, therefore, that either the part of light sins or the part of darkness. But if the part of light sins, God sins, which it is wicked to say; and if the part of darkness sins, it is called to the kingdom by him who said: "I came not to call the righteous but sinners, for those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick." That divinity from divinity and light from light, however, degenerating, is joined for ever to the race of darkness.

Matt 9:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 9:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 2:17 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: If only the darkness sins, the light is sinless and Mani's condemned souls make no sense; and Christ calls sinners, not the righteous.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR: n for u; line-break split; stray mark): inneniatur → inueniatur; iri periculo → in periculo; sed lti pars → sed si pars; degene- rans → degenerans; sociatur._ → sociatur..

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 43 (CSEL 25:971–972; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/43). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 44

44CSEL 25:972

O detestandum mentis errorem talia credentium! uellem tamen. ut adtenderetis et uidere uelletis eum, quem naturaliter summum malum esse dicitis, non posse fieri, ut malus sit, quoniam si quicquid facit, sic facit. ut a natura sua recedere et aliter facere non possit, prorsus nihil peccat; si autem nihil peccat, nihil mali faciat et ideo, si nihil mali fecit, non est utique malus. restat itaque, ut pars dei, quae deus intellegitur, quam animam dicitis, sola sit rea omnium peccatorum et omnia illa, quae accusanda insanissime putatis. in deum uestrum refundatis. sed quid ueritas clamat? corpus cum exanime est peccare non posse, sed per ipsum posse peccari; animam uero inrationalem quidem peccare non posse. quia nec praecepta rationis potest accipere neque ad beatitudinem peruenire, sed in suo gradu seruare ordinem naturae, quem accepit; rationalem autem, quia potest recte factorum rationabilia praecepta percipere et recte factis ad aeternam beatitudinem peruenire, si hoc peccando noluerit. iuste ad inferiora damnari, quia inter ipsam et deum non separat nisi uoluntas praua.

O detestable error of mind in those who believe such things! Yet I would wish you to pay attention and be willing to see that the one you call the supreme evil by nature cannot be evil. For if whatever he does, he does in such a way that he cannot depart from his nature and act otherwise, he does not sin at all; and if he does not sin at all, he does nothing evil; and therefore, if he did nothing evil, he is certainly not evil. It remains, then, that the part of God, which is understood to be God, which you call the soul, alone is guilty of all sins, and you pour back upon your god all the things which you most insanely think are to be accused. But what does the truth cry out? That a body, when it is lifeless, cannot sin, but sin can be committed through it; that an irrational soul cannot sin, because it can neither receive the precepts of reason nor attain blessedness, but keeps in its own rank the order of nature it received; but that a rational soul, because it can receive the reasonable precepts of right action and by right action attain eternal blessedness, if it refuses this by sinning, is justly condemned to lower things, because nothing separates it from God except a depraved will.

Notes and citation

Summary: A being evil by necessity of nature could not sin; only a rational soul with free will can sin and be justly condemned.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: b for h; OCR: i for l): nibil peccat → nihil peccat; inrationaiem → inrationalem.

Topics: Ethics, Heresy, Free will

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 44 (CSEL 25:972; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/44). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 45

45CSEL 25:972–973

Legite. Manichaei, et omni uigilantia ista discutite et magis magisque legite atque discutite, sed animo aequo. non animo inimico. legite illud adtendentes, quia erit uobis in futuro iudicio ista scriptura testis, si agnoscentes uera. esse, quae dicta sunt, ad sinum matris ecclesiae catholicae, quae sola ueritatem docet, omni cursu non festinaueritis.

Read, Manichees, and examine these things with all vigilance; read and examine them more and more, but with a fair mind, not a hostile one. Read with this in mind: that this writing will be a witness against you at the future judgment, if, recognizing that what has been said is true, you do not hasten with all speed to the bosom of mother church, the catholic church, which alone teaches the truth.

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius urges the Manichees to read his work fairly and return to the catholic church.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 45 (CSEL 25:972–973; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/45). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 46

46CSEL 25:973

Iudicate tandem atque eligite. Manichaei. quem sequi uultis: patrem ingenitum, filium unigenitum, spiritum sanctum in patris et filii unitate communem. unum deum omnipotentem, incorruptibilem, inadibilem, incommutabilem, uerum. bonum. sanctum. clementem, iustum. qui non habet partes quia unus est. neque eius particula separari ab eo potest. quia inseparabilis est, neque aliquid eius inmutari potest. quia totus incommutabilis est. neque uel leuiter quodaellet eius substantiae corrumpi potest, quia totus incorruptibilis est, qui uoluit, et facta sunt omnia. quaecumque sunt. quaecumque uiuunt, quaecumque intellegunt — ipse enim summa substantia, summa uita. summa ueritas est — qui praecepit, et ordinata sunt omnia suis locis et temporibus bona; qui rationalem creaturam omni ceterae creaturae praeficere dignatus est; qui ei per superbiam a suis legibus uoluntate lapsae et uisibilia sequenti misericorditer per suos ministros ac per se ipsum signis quibusdam uisibiliter et exemplis et praeceptis demonstratis. quibus consurgere ualeret atque ad aeternam uitam rensuaretur loqui dignatus est: quem praedicat catholica fides:

Judge at last and choose, Manichees, whom you wish to follow: the unbegotten Father, the only-begotten Son, the Holy Spirit common to the Father and the Son in their unity, one God almighty, incorruptible, unapproachable, unchangeable, true, good, holy, merciful, just; who has no parts, because he is one, nor can any portion of him be separated from him, because he is inseparable, nor can anything of him be changed, because he is wholly unchangeable, nor can anything of his substance be corrupted even slightly, because he is wholly incorruptible; who willed, and all things were made that exist, that live, that understand (for he is the supreme substance, the supreme life, the supreme truth); who commanded, and all things were ordered, good in their places and times; who deigned to set the rational creature over all the rest of creation; who, when it had fallen by pride from his laws by its own will and was following visible things, deigned in mercy to speak to it through his ministers and through himself, by certain visible signs and by examples and precepts shown, by which it might be able to rise and be restored to eternal life: the God whom the catholic faith proclaims;

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Ps 148:5 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius sets out the catholic faith in the one, unchangeable triune God who creates by will and in mercy restores fallen humanity.

  • Two words are corrupt in the digital text (quodaellet, rensuaretur); translated by sense ("anything", "be restored").

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR: eet for est; OCR: l for I; stray mark): ludicate → Iudicate; spiritum sanct.um → spiritum sanctum; aeram → uerum; umis est → unus est; totus incorruptibilis eet → totus incorruptibilis est; qunecumque → quaecumque; niuunt → uiuunt; tamporibus → temporibus; per so ipsum → per se ipsum.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 46 (CSEL 25:973; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/46). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 47

47CSEL 25:973–974

an illum deum, qui falso dicitur incorruptus, quia. postea inuenitur malo necessitati obpressus; timidum, quia inminente labe ac uastitate conpulsus ad bellum est; ignorantiae plenum. si suae parti quid contingere posset, uidere non potuit; crudelem, si praeuidit miseriam futuram. partis suae et qui cum ea securus posset quiescere. tamen eam misit ad miserabilem pugnam; malum, si cum sibi fieri a mali natura nihil posset. tamen conatus est eam ipse delere: temerarium, qui ausus est congredi cum ea. a qua eius pars et captiua teneretur et in sempiternum macularetur; conmutabilem, quia iam ex parte mutatus est; corruptibilem. quia iam ex parte corruptus est; ex parte meretricantem, ex parte mentientem. ex parte blasphemantem. scelera omnia ex parte facientem. quia his omnibus ex parte conmixtus est; lugentem, uelo luctuoso tectum: subiacentem daemoniis ut lutum figulo et usque ad turpem personam necessitate pordncium, ut in pueros et uirgines transfiguratus daemonum libidinem accenderet: quem praedicat Manichaeus. aut certe, si potest, neget conscientia uestra teste uobis uero deo aeterno, qui omnes indicaturus est, unum istorum uobis ipsis negate.

or that god who is falsely called incorrupt, since afterwards he is found oppressed by the evil of necessity; fearful, since when ruin and devastation threatened he was driven to war; full of ignorance, if he could not see what might happen to his part; cruel, if he foresaw the future misery of his part and, though he could have rested secure with it, nevertheless sent it into a miserable battle; evil, if, though nothing could be done to him by the nature of evil, he nevertheless tried himself to destroy it; rash, since he dared to engage with that by which his part would be both held captive and stained for ever; changeable, since he has already been changed in part; corruptible, since he has already been corrupted in part; in part playing the harlot, in part lying, in part blaspheming, in part committing every crime, since he is mixed in part with all these; mourning, covered with a mournful veil; subject to demons like clay to the potter, and brought by necessity even to a shameful role, so that, transformed into boys and virgins, he should kindle the lust of demons: the god whom Mani proclaims. Or else, if your conscience can, let it deny, with the true eternal God as your witness, who will judge all, one of these things; deny it to yourselves.

Rom 9:21 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius contrasts Mani's god, oppressed, ignorant, cruel, changeable and corrupted, with the catholic God.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; stray mark): necessitati» obpressus → necessitati obpressus; Manicbaens. ant certe → Manichaeus. aut certe.

Topics: Heresy, Manichaeism

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 47 (CSEL 25:973–974; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/47). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL or CSEL); no public-domain English translation exists, so the translation was re-read against the Latin.

Chapter 48

48CSEL 25:974

Si autem uera sunt, quae dicimus, tandem respicite, tandem uidete, in qua estis morte constituti. humiles estote, si optatis liberari, et nolite superbe et inpie dicere nos ipsos esse deum omnipotentem hoc enim dicitis, cum animas uestras partes eius esse adseueratis; non enim deus in parte maior, in parte minor est. sed potius dicite uobis: deus incommutabilis est, nos commutabiles sumus: deus incorruptibilis est, nos cupiditatibus nostris corrumpimur; deus incoinquinabilis est, nos peccatis nostris coinquinamur; deus ipsa sapientia est, nos stulti ad sapientiam peruenire conamur; deus ipsa aeterna et beata uita est, nos peccatis nostris, miseri sumus et optamus fieri beati: non ergo sumus pars substantiae eius. si enim eius partes estis et haec tanta patimini, restat, ut et ipse iam ex parte. haec omnia patiatur et amplius pati potuerit, quod eius contigit parti. nisi per uestram miseriam sibi prouideret. uidete nos ergo quid estis. si partes estis eius, deus estis, si geniti ab illo estis, similiter deus estis: quid tanta peccatorum corruptione turpamini? si autem facti ab illo estis, hoc confitemini, et non iam eritis Manichaei.

But if what we say is true, look back at last, see at last in what death you are placed. Be humble, if you wish to be set free, and do not say proudly and impiously that you yourselves are almighty God; for that is what you say when you assert that your souls are parts of him, for God is not greater in one part and lesser in another. Rather say to yourselves: God is unchangeable, we are changeable; God is incorruptible, we are corrupted by our desires; God cannot be defiled, we are defiled by our sins; God is wisdom itself, we are fools striving to attain wisdom; God is eternal and blessed life itself, we are wretched through our sins and long to become blessed: therefore we are not part of his substance. For if you are his parts and suffer such things, it follows that he too already suffers all these things in part, and could have suffered more, as happened to his part, had he not provided for himself through your misery. See, then, what you are. If you are his parts, you are God; if you are begotten by him, you are likewise God: why are you defiled by such corruption of sins? But if you were made by him, confess it, and you will no longer be Manichees.

Notes and citation

Summary: Human souls, changeable and sinful, cannot be parts of the unchangeable God; they are his creatures.

  • "See, then": the digital text reads nos ("us") for uos; translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: fl for fi): fleri beati → fieri beati.

Topics: Heresy, The soul

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 48 (CSEL 25:974; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/48). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 49

49CSEL 25:974–975

Manichaeus enim duas dicit esse naturas, unam bonam et alteram malam: bonam quae fecit mundum, malam, de qua factus est mundus. si autem nos deus fecit, non inuenit Manichaeus, unde nos deus fecerit. si enim de se ipso uos fecit, hoc estis quod ipse. non ergo debeatis tanta peccatorum corruptione turpari, sicut iam dictum est. si autem de alieno uos fecit, non ad illum pertinetis, quia sic uos fecit quomodo mundum. si autem nec de se ipso nec de alieno uos fecit, sed tantum omnipotentia sua uoluit, et facti estis, hoc dicite Manichaeo et renuntiate eius errori. sic enim decet omnipotentem facere, quae uoluerit, sicut catholica dicit: ipse dixit, et facta sunt; ipse mandauit, et creata sunt. dicite uobis: non sumus partes eius, sed sumus opera eius. dicite uobis: si deus necessitate passus est et euadere aliter non potuit nisi partis suae pateretur detrimentum, quis aliquando poterit de talibus necessitatibus liberari? aut quis erit, qui protegat deum non ualentem se ipsum protegere? aut quando ille de hac necessitate captiuitatis poterit liberare, qui me in integris regnis custodire non potuit? non enim peccantem me inde dimisit, sed ad peccata ipsa me misit. aut quando mihi in alienis miserabiliter constituto prodesse poterit, qui, ut sibi prodesset, me ad tantam perniciem dedit, ne pugnaret? si incorruptibilis est ipse deus, quid ei factura erat illa mali natura, si nollet cum illa pugnare, ne nunc sic ego cruciarer? aut quae ista iniustitia, ut ad globum damner, cum, ille ut modo aliquantulum securus sit, ego hic tanta sustineam? certe quoniam et ego hoc sum quod ipse, quoniam pars eius sum, nullo in regnis eius insignibus indigenti aut infimo constituto uicibus istam miseriam patiamur, ut et ego aliquantulum requiescam et regna illa sine periculo possint esse pacata. quamquam timendum sit, ne ista natura mali nec in globo ipso inclusa custodiri possit. si enim incorrupta regna corrupit et inuiolatam dei substantiam uiolauit, quomodo pars illa lucis, hoc est animae peccatrices, quae uitiatae globo custodiendo infiguntur infirmae ac debiles, quomodo non absorbentur ab ea, ut iterum regna illa diuina nullo iam ualente obsistere tota conturbet? quis enim iam audeat procedere ad bellum, quando cum illa parte, quae processerat, tam inique actum est, -ut eius requie nulla sui ciues ad sempiternam globi custodiam damnarentur? aut si non potest perrumpere globum, ut ad lucidum illud tectorium damnatarum animarum perueniat, quid opus est eam contegi diuinorum damnatione membrorum? si autem potest perrumpere globum, quis ei resistet saucius, qui integros sauciauit? absit tam grauis et tam abominanda blasphemia. nolite istam iniquitatem ad aures uestras admittere; nolite tali negotio mortifero uos inplicare. fugite Manichaeum et ad ueritatis catholicae ubera toto desiderio conuolate.

For Mani says there are two natures, one good and the other evil: the good, which made the world, and the evil, from which the world was made. But if God made us, Mani does not find what God made us from. For if he made you from himself, you are what he is; so you ought not to be defiled by such corruption of sins, as has already been said. But if he made you from something alien, you do not belong to him, because he made you as he made the world. But if he made you neither from himself nor from something alien, but simply willed it by his omnipotence and you were made, say this to Mani and renounce his error. For thus it befits the Almighty to make what he wills, as the catholic faith says: "He spoke, and they were made; he commanded, and they were created." Say to yourselves: We are not his parts, but we are his works. Say to yourselves: If God suffered necessity and could not escape otherwise than by suffering the loss of his part, who will ever be able to be freed from such necessities? Or who will there be to protect a God unable to protect himself? Or when will he be able to free me from this necessity of captivity, who could not keep me in his kingdoms while they were whole? For he did not send me out from there because I sinned, but sent me into sins themselves. Or when will he be able to help me, placed miserably among alien things, who, to help himself, gave me over to such ruin, so that he should not have to fight? If God himself is incorruptible, what was that nature of evil going to do to him if he had been unwilling to fight with it, so that I should not now be tortured like this? Or what injustice is this, that I am condemned to the globe, while he, so that he may be somewhat secure for now, lets me endure such things here? Surely, since I too am what he is, since I am his part, "with nothing lacking or set at the lowest in his glorious kingdoms", let us suffer this misery by turns, so that I too may rest a little and those kingdoms may be at peace without danger. And yet it is to be feared that this nature of evil cannot be kept shut up even in the globe itself. For if it corrupted incorrupt kingdoms and violated the inviolate substance of God, how will that part of light, that is, the sinful souls, which, damaged, sick and weak, are fixed in the globe to guard it, not be swallowed up by it, so that it throws those divine kingdoms wholly into confusion again, with no one now able to resist? For who would now dare to go out to war, when that part which went out was treated so unjustly that, for the sake of its fellow citizens' rest, it was condemned to the everlasting custody of the globe? Or if it cannot break through the globe so as to reach that luminous covering of condemned souls, what need is there for it to be covered by the condemnation of divine members? But if it can break through the globe, who, being wounded, will resist it, when it wounded those who were whole? Far from us be so grave and so abominable a blasphemy. Do not admit this iniquity to your ears; do not entangle yourselves in such a deadly business. Flee Mani and fly with all longing to the breasts of catholic truth.

Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:9 (32:9 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius concludes: human beings are God's works, not his parts, and Mani's system leaves even God helpless; the Manichees should flee to catholic truth.

  • "With nothing lacking or set at the lowest in his glorious kingdoms" repeats Mani's words quoted in section 11. The digital text's "ttle" (probably ille, "he") is corrected; "me" is understood.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR: letter lost; OCR: t for question mark; chapter number leaked into the text; stray hyphen): . 49. Manichaeus → Manichaeus; quando ttle de → quando ille de; conturbet t quis → conturbet? quis; tam gra is → tam grauis; hoc est- animae → hoc est animae.

Extrabiblical texts: Mani, Ep. fund. (Mani, Letter of the Foundation; allusion)

Topics: Heresy, Manichaeism, Creation

Cite (SBL): Evodius, Fid. 49 (CSEL 25:974–975; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/evodius-de-fide/49). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL or CSEL); no public-domain English translation exists, so the translation was re-read against the Latin.